Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-12-05 Thread Andrew Johnson
After scoring a Nitto Racing cage at the RBW garage sale today, I took off
for a couple laps on the mountain. It was hecka breezy out, and lots of
downed debris from the trees near Rock City, making for slippery road
surface. Something I noticed was that, after a few weeks riding the
fixed-gear Quickbeam, my motorcycling technique has gotten better in the
turns.

On the QB, I can't coast, and have to pedal through turns. Maybe not quite
*powering* through turns, but not coasting or braking, either - I keep the
momentum going and tension on the chain. Anything else, and I'll screw up
the turn.

It's the same on the motorcycle - the best technique is to roll on throttle
through the turn. I wasn't thinking about this so much, but once on the
curves of North Gate road, I realized I was taking them just a hair faster
than last time, but more accurately, without coasting or chopping the
throttle. Another example of how the two practices compliment each other.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-11-09 Thread Philip Williamson
Until it becomes the subject of a Reader interview, I guess you're
right. FWIW, my dad's a motorcycle guy, I'm a bike guy. I like the
quiet, especially out in the woods, so the electric motorcycles do
appeal to me.

 Philip


On Nov 8, 11:05 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote:
  It's all been pedal powered for me for a decade or so, since I sold my
  CBR1000, but in the last three years I've been working for Zero
  Motorcycles, so I've been able to ride company motorcycles.  Perfect
  timing to plug (pun intended) our 2012 model line which was introduced
  at EICMA in Milan just this morning:
 http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/
  Electric motorcycles are a practical reality, as of now!
  (...but if I HAD to make a choice, I'd still choose my Riv.)
  cheers,
  Andrew, Santa Cruz

 Hi,
  And with this final advertisement I think it fair to say this
 discussion has drifted FAR afield and is no longer even remotely
 riv-related.

 thanks,
 -sv

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[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-11-08 Thread Mark R.
I have been riding motorcycles since 1990.  For a while, about seven
years, i did not have a car, just my bicycles and my moto.  I needed a
small truck and got out of them in 97, then got back into motos in 04.

We had taken a road trip from Cali to Wqshington state, and while
there, I brought my bicycle and did a century in Redmund.  Tired the
next day, we rented scooters on San Juan island, and had a blast. With
my daughter on the back. she told me that if I got a scooter, i could
take her to school everyday. done

It was a 150cc Vespa, and it was too slow for the hills around here,
so i sold it and bought a Honda Hawk Gt650. I was putting 10k a year
on my bicycle, about 6k a year on the moto, commuting. Then i got a
ninja 650, fuel injected, and at 10k miles, had an accident in which a
lady pulled out in front of me, and stopped.  I had the skills to skid
and slide around the back of her, then she panicked and i was afraid
she was going to through in in reverse, had a tank slapper reversing
directions, went down.

I wear full gear.  I rolled, my full face helmet was destroyed. Had i
not been wearing it, I would not be here, or i would not have a face.
I shattered my right arm into hundred of pieces. It was doubtful i
would regain use of it.  I have a plate and 13 screws, and worked
really hard to get it back, and it is fine.  My doc said most folks
don't come back from my injury like I did.

That said, i still ride.  I restored another 650 Hawk (cult bike,
google it, or i can send you a link to my restoration). Then I found
one that was a collectors, almost no miles, and bought that one, sold
the other on CL.  I ride it maybe once or twice a week. I love it, but
i could give it up.  Mostly keep it around now as backup
transportation in case something happens to my car, since i now live
alone.

Just yesterday, i was thinking if I had to choose, it would be the
bicycle. I love things with two wheels.  To the original question, i
prolly put 7k miles on my bicycle a year, and 3k miles on the moto.

Do love watching motogp, and one of my favorite racers was killed two
weeks ago at Sepang race.  It gives me pause for riding.

Mark
Howtostretch.co,

On Nov 8, 4:25 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Think you meant this for Patrick, but good advice nonetheless !

 Pete

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[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-11-08 Thread Andrew Letton
It's all been pedal powered for me for a decade or so, since I sold my
CBR1000, but in the last three years I've been working for Zero
Motorcycles, so I've been able to ride company motorcycles.  Perfect
timing to plug (pun intended) our 2012 model line which was introduced
at EICMA in Milan just this morning:
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/
Electric motorcycles are a practical reality, as of now!
(...but if I HAD to make a choice, I'd still choose my Riv.)
cheers,
Andrew, Santa Cruz


On Nov 5, 6:45 pm, Andrew Johnson ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any other motorcyclists on this list? What's your bici/moto seat-time
 ratio? Mine has been about 1:20 over the past decade, but is quickly
 becoming 1:2 with a new commute.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-11-08 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote:
 It's all been pedal powered for me for a decade or so, since I sold my
 CBR1000, but in the last three years I've been working for Zero
 Motorcycles, so I've been able to ride company motorcycles.  Perfect
 timing to plug (pun intended) our 2012 model line which was introduced
 at EICMA in Milan just this morning:
 http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/
 Electric motorcycles are a practical reality, as of now!
 (...but if I HAD to make a choice, I'd still choose my Riv.)
 cheers,
 Andrew, Santa Cruz


Hi,
 And with this final advertisement I think it fair to say this
discussion has drifted FAR afield and is no longer even remotely
riv-related.

thanks,
-sv

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[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-11-08 Thread singlecross
I've owned and ridden motorcycles since the day I graduated High
School (Mom said that once I graduated I was free to do what I would).
I probably put more miles on the motorcycle but more days on the
bicycle. Evens out I guess. BMW motorcycles would equate well to
Rivendell bicycles while the Suzuki V-Strom is the iBob cheaper
version. I love my V-Strom and yes, I've ridden lots of BMW's...  90%
of the performance at half the price.

singlecross
DownEast

On Nov 8, 2:05 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote:
  It's all been pedal powered for me for a decade or so, since I sold my
  CBR1000, but in the last three years I've been working for Zero
  Motorcycles, so I've been able to ride company motorcycles.  Perfect
  timing to plug (pun intended) our 2012 model line which was introduced
  at EICMA in Milan just this morning:
 http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/
  Electric motorcycles are a practical reality, as of now!
  (...but if I HAD to make a choice, I'd still choose my Riv.)
  cheers,
  Andrew, Santa Cruz

 Hi,
  And with this final advertisement I think it fair to say this
 discussion has drifted FAR afield and is no longer even remotely
 riv-related.

 thanks,
 -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-11-08 Thread robert zeidler
Do not get an Oilhead BMW unless you've got some leg length.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Mark R. markrosenber...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have been riding motorcycles since 1990.  For a while, about seven
 years, i did not have a car, just my bicycles and my moto.  I needed a
 small truck and got out of them in 97, then got back into motos in 04.

 We had taken a road trip from Cali to Wqshington state, and while
 there, I brought my bicycle and did a century in Redmund.  Tired the
 next day, we rented scooters on San Juan island, and had a blast. With
 my daughter on the back. she told me that if I got a scooter, i could
 take her to school everyday. done

 It was a 150cc Vespa, and it was too slow for the hills around here,
 so i sold it and bought a Honda Hawk Gt650. I was putting 10k a year
 on my bicycle, about 6k a year on the moto, commuting. Then i got a
 ninja 650, fuel injected, and at 10k miles, had an accident in which a
 lady pulled out in front of me, and stopped.  I had the skills to skid
 and slide around the back of her, then she panicked and i was afraid
 she was going to through in in reverse, had a tank slapper reversing
 directions, went down.

 I wear full gear.  I rolled, my full face helmet was destroyed. Had i
 not been wearing it, I would not be here, or i would not have a face.
 I shattered my right arm into hundred of pieces. It was doubtful i
 would regain use of it.  I have a plate and 13 screws, and worked
 really hard to get it back, and it is fine.  My doc said most folks
 don't come back from my injury like I did.

 That said, i still ride.  I restored another 650 Hawk (cult bike,
 google it, or i can send you a link to my restoration). Then I found
 one that was a collectors, almost no miles, and bought that one, sold
 the other on CL.  I ride it maybe once or twice a week. I love it, but
 i could give it up.  Mostly keep it around now as backup
 transportation in case something happens to my car, since i now live
 alone.

 Just yesterday, i was thinking if I had to choose, it would be the
 bicycle. I love things with two wheels.  To the original question, i
 prolly put 7k miles on my bicycle a year, and 3k miles on the moto.

 Do love watching motogp, and one of my favorite racers was killed two
 weeks ago at Sepang race.  It gives me pause for riding.

 Mark
 Howtostretch.co,

 On Nov 8, 4:25 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Think you meant this for Patrick, but good advice nonetheless !

 Pete

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[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-11-07 Thread Corwin
It's been awhile since my last ride - but I rode a BMW K75S. Started
in grad school - '87. Eventually rode the bike to Colorado when we
moved east, and back to California when we moved west. Having watched
numerous cagers do incredibly unwise things directly in front of me
(often imperiling my life), I feel safer on a bicycle.

Corwin

On Nov 5, 6:45 pm, Andrew Johnson ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was over at RBW today, getting some brake parts and Newbaum's, and had a
 chance to talk to a fellow Quickbeam owner, who happens also to be a fellow
 motorcyclist. He rides a late 70's Ducati, and I ride a BMW 1150 GS. I
 noted how easy it is to slip back and forth between cultures, one
 motorized, the other powered by ham 'n eggs, but both joined by strong
 commonalities: balance, traction, dodging cagers and potholes and deer...

 Any other motorcyclists on this list? What's your bici/moto seat-time
 ratio? Mine has been about 1:20 over the past decade, but is quickly
 becoming 1:2 with a new commute.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-11-07 Thread Liesl
I rode motorbikes for about 20 years, mostly cross-country tours with
a lot of miles and a lot of fun.  Also did the Reg Pridmore Motorcycle
Racing School course.  My main ride was a 1973 BMW R75/5 Long
Wheelbase with a toaster tank like this only with a little S faring:

http://bmwdean.com/r75-5.html

She's still in the garage and in lovely shape. SInce I've retired from
the sport, I should bring myself to selling her.

I retired from motorcycling in about 2000 for the following reasons:
1) danger – I realized my good skills were not improving with age, had
friends killed or maimed, and I realized that I was mortal; 2) my body
– I began having neck and knee trouble and at 5'2 and 115 pounds
(during the height of my riding career; I'm plumper now) it was a
wrestle moving a loaded bike around under 5 mph; 3) happiness – I fell
in love, no longer was interested in spending 100's of miles alone,
and got two big dogs who can't go motorcycle camping with me; and 4)
the environment – I can't justify having a pastime that's about
burning fossil fuel, and 5) health – bicycling is so good for me!

 I've also found that bicycling fulfills my 2-wheel jones both in
adventuring and in lovely gear.  That's a big part of my love for
things Riv.  Still have the dogs/camping problem though.

Patrick, it's wonderful when it's good, and deadly when it's bad.  The
older you are, the more you increase your risk, especially if you're a
newcomer.  I don't always wear my helmet on my bicycle. On a
motorcycle, I always *always* wore a full-face helmet, boots, gloves,
long pants, and a leather jacket if under 85 degrees.  And take a
Motorcycle Foundation Safety course.

liesl

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[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-11-07 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Motorcycles surround me... My brother owns a '49 Harley Knucklehead
with awesome leather bags and he also owns a custom mid-70s Triumph
(chopped).
Another owns a BSA project bike that actaully may one day be rideable.
One of my best friends has a serious woody for old BMWs and owns at
least 4 of them.
A handful of my neighbors are freshly recovering from their mid-life-
crisis-Harleys...
The influences have definitely been present... but somehow ...the
motorcycle bug has eluded me.. until now, that is.

By Spring I resolve to be riding a classic BMW of some kind... maybe a
1972-1978 Boxer Twin R-series,
or a late 70s Flying Brick... just for sheer enjoyment, not commuting,
not to ride cross-country.  Just to own, to ride, and to love.
I simply haven't found the right one yet... (But it's out there and
make no mistake, it will be mine, oh yes)...



On Nov 7, 5:59 pm, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
 I rode motorbikes for about 20 years, mostly cross-country tours with
 a lot of miles and a lot of fun.  Also did the Reg Pridmore Motorcycle
 Racing School course.  My main ride was a 1973 BMW R75/5 Long
 Wheelbase with a toaster tank like this only with a little S faring:

 http://bmwdean.com/r75-5.html

 She's still in the garage and in lovely shape. SInce I've retired from
 the sport, I should bring myself to selling her.

 I retired from motorcycling in about 2000 for the following reasons:
 1) danger – I realized my good skills were not improving with age, had
 friends killed or maimed, and I realized that I was mortal; 2) my body
 – I began having neck and knee trouble and at 5'2 and 115 pounds
 (during the height of my riding career; I'm plumper now) it was a
 wrestle moving a loaded bike around under 5 mph; 3) happiness – I fell
 in love, no longer was interested in spending 100's of miles alone,
 and got two big dogs who can't go motorcycle camping with me; and 4)
 the environment – I can't justify having a pastime that's about
 burning fossil fuel, and 5) health – bicycling is so good for me!

  I've also found that bicycling fulfills my 2-wheel jones both in
 adventuring and in lovely gear.  That's a big part of my love for
 things Riv.  Still have the dogs/camping problem though.

 Patrick, it's wonderful when it's good, and deadly when it's bad.  The
 older you are, the more you increase your risk, especially if you're a
 newcomer.  I don't always wear my helmet on my bicycle. On a
 motorcycle, I always *always* wore a full-face helmet, boots, gloves,
 long pants, and a leather jacket if under 85 degrees.  And take a
 Motorcycle Foundation Safety course.

 liesl

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[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-11-07 Thread RonaTD
Moto Guzzi V7 Classic. Great all around bike. Easy loafer around town,
as much fun as I'll ever be able to handle out in the country. Not a
super slab mega miler, but I went out to the Twin Cities and back
(almost 800 miles) in a 2-day trip this fall and survived.

I haven't kept track of the seat time ratio. Might be about even, a
bit more on the bicycle. That 2-day trip was a lot of seat time, but
not as much as the 400k rando last June.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI

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[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

2011-11-07 Thread benzzoy
I used to ride motorcycles.  My last one was a HD Sportster 1200
Sports with a nice solo seat and quiet Supertrapp exhaust.  Yup, an
anti-HD exhaust that is probably quieter than stock.  It went away
after I got married and especially when the little one came along, but
I still have my nice leather gear and helmets as keepsakes.

Back during those relatively carefree days, my bicycle mileage was
super-high, hitting 5-digits annually.  So even though I ride my
motorcycle somewhat often, it was a fairly puny ratio in favor of the
bicycles.

Maybe when I retire...


On Nov 5, 5:45 pm, Andrew Johnson ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was over at RBW today, getting some brake parts and Newbaum's, and had a
 chance to talk to a fellow Quickbeam owner, who happens also to be a fellow
 motorcyclist. He rides a late 70's Ducati, and I ride a BMW 1150 GS. I
 noted how easy it is to slip back and forth between cultures, one
 motorized, the other powered by ham 'n eggs, but both joined by strong
 commonalities: balance, traction, dodging cagers and potholes and deer...

 Any other motorcyclists on this list? What's your bici/moto seat-time
 ratio? Mine has been about 1:20 over the past decade, but is quickly
 becoming 1:2 with a new commute.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

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