Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?
After scoring a Nitto Racing cage at the RBW garage sale today, I took off for a couple laps on the mountain. It was hecka breezy out, and lots of downed debris from the trees near Rock City, making for slippery road surface. Something I noticed was that, after a few weeks riding the fixed-gear Quickbeam, my motorcycling technique has gotten better in the turns. On the QB, I can't coast, and have to pedal through turns. Maybe not quite *powering* through turns, but not coasting or braking, either - I keep the momentum going and tension on the chain. Anything else, and I'll screw up the turn. It's the same on the motorcycle - the best technique is to roll on throttle through the turn. I wasn't thinking about this so much, but once on the curves of North Gate road, I realized I was taking them just a hair faster than last time, but more accurately, without coasting or chopping the throttle. Another example of how the two practices compliment each other. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?
Until it becomes the subject of a Reader interview, I guess you're right. FWIW, my dad's a motorcycle guy, I'm a bike guy. I like the quiet, especially out in the woods, so the electric motorcycles do appeal to me. Philip On Nov 8, 11:05 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: It's all been pedal powered for me for a decade or so, since I sold my CBR1000, but in the last three years I've been working for Zero Motorcycles, so I've been able to ride company motorcycles. Perfect timing to plug (pun intended) our 2012 model line which was introduced at EICMA in Milan just this morning: http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/ Electric motorcycles are a practical reality, as of now! (...but if I HAD to make a choice, I'd still choose my Riv.) cheers, Andrew, Santa Cruz Hi, And with this final advertisement I think it fair to say this discussion has drifted FAR afield and is no longer even remotely riv-related. thanks, -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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I have been riding motorcycles since 1990. For a while, about seven years, i did not have a car, just my bicycles and my moto. I needed a small truck and got out of them in 97, then got back into motos in 04. We had taken a road trip from Cali to Wqshington state, and while there, I brought my bicycle and did a century in Redmund. Tired the next day, we rented scooters on San Juan island, and had a blast. With my daughter on the back. she told me that if I got a scooter, i could take her to school everyday. done It was a 150cc Vespa, and it was too slow for the hills around here, so i sold it and bought a Honda Hawk Gt650. I was putting 10k a year on my bicycle, about 6k a year on the moto, commuting. Then i got a ninja 650, fuel injected, and at 10k miles, had an accident in which a lady pulled out in front of me, and stopped. I had the skills to skid and slide around the back of her, then she panicked and i was afraid she was going to through in in reverse, had a tank slapper reversing directions, went down. I wear full gear. I rolled, my full face helmet was destroyed. Had i not been wearing it, I would not be here, or i would not have a face. I shattered my right arm into hundred of pieces. It was doubtful i would regain use of it. I have a plate and 13 screws, and worked really hard to get it back, and it is fine. My doc said most folks don't come back from my injury like I did. That said, i still ride. I restored another 650 Hawk (cult bike, google it, or i can send you a link to my restoration). Then I found one that was a collectors, almost no miles, and bought that one, sold the other on CL. I ride it maybe once or twice a week. I love it, but i could give it up. Mostly keep it around now as backup transportation in case something happens to my car, since i now live alone. Just yesterday, i was thinking if I had to choose, it would be the bicycle. I love things with two wheels. To the original question, i prolly put 7k miles on my bicycle a year, and 3k miles on the moto. Do love watching motogp, and one of my favorite racers was killed two weeks ago at Sepang race. It gives me pause for riding. Mark Howtostretch.co, On Nov 8, 4:25 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: Think you meant this for Patrick, but good advice nonetheless ! Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?
It's all been pedal powered for me for a decade or so, since I sold my CBR1000, but in the last three years I've been working for Zero Motorcycles, so I've been able to ride company motorcycles. Perfect timing to plug (pun intended) our 2012 model line which was introduced at EICMA in Milan just this morning: http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/ Electric motorcycles are a practical reality, as of now! (...but if I HAD to make a choice, I'd still choose my Riv.) cheers, Andrew, Santa Cruz On Nov 5, 6:45 pm, Andrew Johnson ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: Any other motorcyclists on this list? What's your bici/moto seat-time ratio? Mine has been about 1:20 over the past decade, but is quickly becoming 1:2 with a new commute. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: It's all been pedal powered for me for a decade or so, since I sold my CBR1000, but in the last three years I've been working for Zero Motorcycles, so I've been able to ride company motorcycles. Perfect timing to plug (pun intended) our 2012 model line which was introduced at EICMA in Milan just this morning: http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/ Electric motorcycles are a practical reality, as of now! (...but if I HAD to make a choice, I'd still choose my Riv.) cheers, Andrew, Santa Cruz Hi, And with this final advertisement I think it fair to say this discussion has drifted FAR afield and is no longer even remotely riv-related. thanks, -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?
I've owned and ridden motorcycles since the day I graduated High School (Mom said that once I graduated I was free to do what I would). I probably put more miles on the motorcycle but more days on the bicycle. Evens out I guess. BMW motorcycles would equate well to Rivendell bicycles while the Suzuki V-Strom is the iBob cheaper version. I love my V-Strom and yes, I've ridden lots of BMW's... 90% of the performance at half the price. singlecross DownEast On Nov 8, 2:05 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: It's all been pedal powered for me for a decade or so, since I sold my CBR1000, but in the last three years I've been working for Zero Motorcycles, so I've been able to ride company motorcycles. Perfect timing to plug (pun intended) our 2012 model line which was introduced at EICMA in Milan just this morning: http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/ Electric motorcycles are a practical reality, as of now! (...but if I HAD to make a choice, I'd still choose my Riv.) cheers, Andrew, Santa Cruz Hi, And with this final advertisement I think it fair to say this discussion has drifted FAR afield and is no longer even remotely riv-related. thanks, -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?
Do not get an Oilhead BMW unless you've got some leg length. On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Mark R. markrosenber...@gmail.com wrote: I have been riding motorcycles since 1990. For a while, about seven years, i did not have a car, just my bicycles and my moto. I needed a small truck and got out of them in 97, then got back into motos in 04. We had taken a road trip from Cali to Wqshington state, and while there, I brought my bicycle and did a century in Redmund. Tired the next day, we rented scooters on San Juan island, and had a blast. With my daughter on the back. she told me that if I got a scooter, i could take her to school everyday. done It was a 150cc Vespa, and it was too slow for the hills around here, so i sold it and bought a Honda Hawk Gt650. I was putting 10k a year on my bicycle, about 6k a year on the moto, commuting. Then i got a ninja 650, fuel injected, and at 10k miles, had an accident in which a lady pulled out in front of me, and stopped. I had the skills to skid and slide around the back of her, then she panicked and i was afraid she was going to through in in reverse, had a tank slapper reversing directions, went down. I wear full gear. I rolled, my full face helmet was destroyed. Had i not been wearing it, I would not be here, or i would not have a face. I shattered my right arm into hundred of pieces. It was doubtful i would regain use of it. I have a plate and 13 screws, and worked really hard to get it back, and it is fine. My doc said most folks don't come back from my injury like I did. That said, i still ride. I restored another 650 Hawk (cult bike, google it, or i can send you a link to my restoration). Then I found one that was a collectors, almost no miles, and bought that one, sold the other on CL. I ride it maybe once or twice a week. I love it, but i could give it up. Mostly keep it around now as backup transportation in case something happens to my car, since i now live alone. Just yesterday, i was thinking if I had to choose, it would be the bicycle. I love things with two wheels. To the original question, i prolly put 7k miles on my bicycle a year, and 3k miles on the moto. Do love watching motogp, and one of my favorite racers was killed two weeks ago at Sepang race. It gives me pause for riding. Mark Howtostretch.co, On Nov 8, 4:25 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: Think you meant this for Patrick, but good advice nonetheless ! Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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It's been awhile since my last ride - but I rode a BMW K75S. Started in grad school - '87. Eventually rode the bike to Colorado when we moved east, and back to California when we moved west. Having watched numerous cagers do incredibly unwise things directly in front of me (often imperiling my life), I feel safer on a bicycle. Corwin On Nov 5, 6:45 pm, Andrew Johnson ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I was over at RBW today, getting some brake parts and Newbaum's, and had a chance to talk to a fellow Quickbeam owner, who happens also to be a fellow motorcyclist. He rides a late 70's Ducati, and I ride a BMW 1150 GS. I noted how easy it is to slip back and forth between cultures, one motorized, the other powered by ham 'n eggs, but both joined by strong commonalities: balance, traction, dodging cagers and potholes and deer... Any other motorcyclists on this list? What's your bici/moto seat-time ratio? Mine has been about 1:20 over the past decade, but is quickly becoming 1:2 with a new commute. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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I rode motorbikes for about 20 years, mostly cross-country tours with a lot of miles and a lot of fun. Also did the Reg Pridmore Motorcycle Racing School course. My main ride was a 1973 BMW R75/5 Long Wheelbase with a toaster tank like this only with a little S faring: http://bmwdean.com/r75-5.html She's still in the garage and in lovely shape. SInce I've retired from the sport, I should bring myself to selling her. I retired from motorcycling in about 2000 for the following reasons: 1) danger – I realized my good skills were not improving with age, had friends killed or maimed, and I realized that I was mortal; 2) my body – I began having neck and knee trouble and at 5'2 and 115 pounds (during the height of my riding career; I'm plumper now) it was a wrestle moving a loaded bike around under 5 mph; 3) happiness – I fell in love, no longer was interested in spending 100's of miles alone, and got two big dogs who can't go motorcycle camping with me; and 4) the environment – I can't justify having a pastime that's about burning fossil fuel, and 5) health – bicycling is so good for me! I've also found that bicycling fulfills my 2-wheel jones both in adventuring and in lovely gear. That's a big part of my love for things Riv. Still have the dogs/camping problem though. Patrick, it's wonderful when it's good, and deadly when it's bad. The older you are, the more you increase your risk, especially if you're a newcomer. I don't always wear my helmet on my bicycle. On a motorcycle, I always *always* wore a full-face helmet, boots, gloves, long pants, and a leather jacket if under 85 degrees. And take a Motorcycle Foundation Safety course. liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Motorcycles surround me... My brother owns a '49 Harley Knucklehead with awesome leather bags and he also owns a custom mid-70s Triumph (chopped). Another owns a BSA project bike that actaully may one day be rideable. One of my best friends has a serious woody for old BMWs and owns at least 4 of them. A handful of my neighbors are freshly recovering from their mid-life- crisis-Harleys... The influences have definitely been present... but somehow ...the motorcycle bug has eluded me.. until now, that is. By Spring I resolve to be riding a classic BMW of some kind... maybe a 1972-1978 Boxer Twin R-series, or a late 70s Flying Brick... just for sheer enjoyment, not commuting, not to ride cross-country. Just to own, to ride, and to love. I simply haven't found the right one yet... (But it's out there and make no mistake, it will be mine, oh yes)... On Nov 7, 5:59 pm, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: I rode motorbikes for about 20 years, mostly cross-country tours with a lot of miles and a lot of fun. Also did the Reg Pridmore Motorcycle Racing School course. My main ride was a 1973 BMW R75/5 Long Wheelbase with a toaster tank like this only with a little S faring: http://bmwdean.com/r75-5.html She's still in the garage and in lovely shape. SInce I've retired from the sport, I should bring myself to selling her. I retired from motorcycling in about 2000 for the following reasons: 1) danger – I realized my good skills were not improving with age, had friends killed or maimed, and I realized that I was mortal; 2) my body – I began having neck and knee trouble and at 5'2 and 115 pounds (during the height of my riding career; I'm plumper now) it was a wrestle moving a loaded bike around under 5 mph; 3) happiness – I fell in love, no longer was interested in spending 100's of miles alone, and got two big dogs who can't go motorcycle camping with me; and 4) the environment – I can't justify having a pastime that's about burning fossil fuel, and 5) health – bicycling is so good for me! I've also found that bicycling fulfills my 2-wheel jones both in adventuring and in lovely gear. That's a big part of my love for things Riv. Still have the dogs/camping problem though. Patrick, it's wonderful when it's good, and deadly when it's bad. The older you are, the more you increase your risk, especially if you're a newcomer. I don't always wear my helmet on my bicycle. On a motorcycle, I always *always* wore a full-face helmet, boots, gloves, long pants, and a leather jacket if under 85 degrees. And take a Motorcycle Foundation Safety course. liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Moto Guzzi V7 Classic. Great all around bike. Easy loafer around town, as much fun as I'll ever be able to handle out in the country. Not a super slab mega miler, but I went out to the Twin Cities and back (almost 800 miles) in a 2-day trip this fall and survived. I haven't kept track of the seat time ratio. Might be about even, a bit more on the bicycle. That 2-day trip was a lot of seat time, but not as much as the 400k rando last June. Ted Durant Milwaukee, WI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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I used to ride motorcycles. My last one was a HD Sportster 1200 Sports with a nice solo seat and quiet Supertrapp exhaust. Yup, an anti-HD exhaust that is probably quieter than stock. It went away after I got married and especially when the little one came along, but I still have my nice leather gear and helmets as keepsakes. Back during those relatively carefree days, my bicycle mileage was super-high, hitting 5-digits annually. So even though I ride my motorcycle somewhat often, it was a fairly puny ratio in favor of the bicycles. Maybe when I retire... On Nov 5, 5:45 pm, Andrew Johnson ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I was over at RBW today, getting some brake parts and Newbaum's, and had a chance to talk to a fellow Quickbeam owner, who happens also to be a fellow motorcyclist. He rides a late 70's Ducati, and I ride a BMW 1150 GS. I noted how easy it is to slip back and forth between cultures, one motorized, the other powered by ham 'n eggs, but both joined by strong commonalities: balance, traction, dodging cagers and potholes and deer... Any other motorcyclists on this list? What's your bici/moto seat-time ratio? Mine has been about 1:20 over the past decade, but is quickly becoming 1:2 with a new commute. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.