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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne seatpost

2024-07-20 Thread Ray Varella

Blue Lug lists 26.8 in their specs for Sams 

Ray

On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 12:54:04 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> There you goI was completely wrong on that lugged part. :)
>
> I will say I owned a SH back in the day and it was 27.2 BUT they could 
> have changed that as things have indeed changed on their bikes over the 
> years.
>
> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 3:01:48 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Believe it or not(get a life, Ryan) - I couldn't find seat post diameter 
>> anywhere on SH specs on the RBW site or in any of the newsletter specs for 
>> later iterations of this frame...but as a counter-example for Johnny Alien, 
>> I do remember Leah's quest for a nicer long-setback post for her 
>> Platypus(lugged frame) limited her options somewhat because it  took a 
>> 26.8; RBW lists this. And I think the Roaduno (lugged) is also 26.8. The 
>> Roadeo does list 27.2 as the seatpost size as does Homer 
>> Hilsen.Butbupkis for the Sam unless the frame brochure they put out 
>> from time to time lists it somewhere. 
>>
>> All that being said, easiest way to find out is to give RBW HQ a call
>>
>> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 12:40:52 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> 27.2
>>>
>>> For some reason I feel like there is some rule of thumb like...lugged 
>>> frames are 27.2 and tigged or filet brazed or different. I am probably 
>>> wrong about that.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-4 Ron Cramer wrote:
>>>
 It is probably on the website and I missed it. What seatpost on the 
 new Sam Hillborne: 26.8 or 27.2?
 Thanks 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne seatpost

2024-07-20 Thread Johnny Alien

There you goI was completely wrong on that lugged part. :)

I will say I owned a SH back in the day and it was 27.2 BUT they could have 
changed that as things have indeed changed on their bikes over the years.

On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 3:01:48 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Believe it or not(get a life, Ryan) - I couldn't find seat post diameter 
> anywhere on SH specs on the RBW site or in any of the newsletter specs for 
> later iterations of this frame...but as a counter-example for Johnny Alien, 
> I do remember Leah's quest for a nicer long-setback post for her 
> Platypus(lugged frame) limited her options somewhat because it  took a 
> 26.8; RBW lists this. And I think the Roaduno (lugged) is also 26.8. The 
> Roadeo does list 27.2 as the seatpost size as does Homer 
> Hilsen.Butbupkis for the Sam unless the frame brochure they put out 
> from time to time lists it somewhere. 
>
> All that being said, easiest way to find out is to give RBW HQ a call
>
> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 12:40:52 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> 27.2
>>
>> For some reason I feel like there is some rule of thumb like...lugged 
>> frames are 27.2 and tigged or filet brazed or different. I am probably 
>> wrong about that.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-4 Ron Cramer wrote:
>>
>>> It is probably on the website and I missed it. What seatpost on the new 
>>> Sam Hillborne: 26.8 or 27.2?
>>> Thanks 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne seatpost

2024-07-20 Thread Ryan

Believe it or not(get a life, Ryan) - I couldn't find seat post diameter 
anywhere on SH specs on the RBW site or in any of the newsletter specs for 
later iterations of this frame...but as a counter-example for Johnny Alien, 
I do remember Leah's quest for a nicer long-setback post for her 
Platypus(lugged frame) limited her options somewhat because it  took a 
26.8; RBW lists this. And I think the Roaduno (lugged) is also 26.8. The 
Roadeo does list 27.2 as the seatpost size as does Homer 
Hilsen.Butbupkis for the Sam unless the frame brochure they put out 
from time to time lists it somewhere. 

All that being said, easiest way to find out is to give RBW HQ a call

On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 12:40:52 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> 27.2
>
> For some reason I feel like there is some rule of thumb like...lugged 
> frames are 27.2 and tigged or filet brazed or different. I am probably 
> wrong about that.
>
> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-4 Ron Cramer wrote:
>
>> It is probably on the website and I missed it. What seatpost on the new 
>> Sam Hillborne: 26.8 or 27.2?
>> Thanks 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne seatpost

2024-07-20 Thread Ron Cramer

Thanks!

On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 11:40 AM Johnny Alien 
wrote:

> 27.2
>
> For some reason I feel like there is some rule of thumb like...lugged
> frames are 27.2 and tigged or filet brazed or different. I am probably
> wrong about that.
>
> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-4 Ron Cramer wrote:
>
>> It is probably on the website and I missed it. What seatpost on the new
>> Sam Hillborne: 26.8 or 27.2?
>> Thanks
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne seatpost

2024-07-20 Thread Johnny Alien

27.2

For some reason I feel like there is some rule of thumb like...lugged 
frames are 27.2 and tigged or filet brazed or different. I am probably 
wrong about that.

On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-4 Ron Cramer wrote:

> It is probably on the website and I missed it. What seatpost on the new 
> Sam Hillborne: 26.8 or 27.2?
> Thanks 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-06-18 Thread Brenton Eastman

44mm tire on dyads will fit no problem. My friend ran the 48 RH knobbies no prob and so did @senditsafely on IG. He’s got pics of clearances and such. If you try the 44 RH knobbies and they don’t work, sell em to me! My 47 teravail knobbies are getting smooth at this point. On Jun 18, 2024, at 1:21 PM, John Bokman wrote:Thanks Brenton and Tim for your insight. Good to know I may be able to fit at least a 42mm knobby in there. For what it's worth, I believe (but am not certain) that after 2017, the size I ride (and Brenton rides) switched from 58cm to 57cm. If this is correct, Brenton, your frame is likely a 2018 or newer. I need to get myself a pair of vernier calipers to accurately measure the space I've got at all the critical areas before spending lots of dough on new rubber!JohnOn Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 11:55:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:I have a friend with the same era Sam that we are discussing. I can confirm that the Hurricane Ridge will definitely fit. Not sure about the Manastash. I am thinking about trying these as well. On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 2:45:09 PM UTC-4 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:John, I believe mine is also a 2017 and similar to Tim I do not have any clearance issues. I do need to deflate a bit for install/removal due to brake pads. I’m in Portland as well if you ever wanna link up and get tire-nerdy in person. Also happy to share pictures. On Jun 18, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Tim Bantham wrote:John, my Sam is a 2017 model designed around side pulls. I am riding 44mm Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass on Velocity Quill rims. Paul Racer brakes. There is plenty of clearance for the tires front and rear but I do have to deflate the tires a bit to get them out. It's been a non-issue for me and the Sam is great with these tires!On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 12:21:39 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:Brent, what year model do you have? I'm under the impression that earlier Sams (like my 2017, 58cm) do not accept as fat a tire as the newer models (2018 onward)?My use case is trying to figure how fat a knobby I can install for an upcoming offroad trip. Some say a 43mm wide knob is all that the frame will accept, while the Riv site itself says 45mm tires fit - albeit not necessarily a knobbed tire. for the record, I'm on Velocity Dyad rims. And my Sam is designed around side pull brakes, but I had canti posts installed so have more room in that respect.Thanks for any info you may have.John (in Portland OR)On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 6:37:12 PM UTC-7 Brent Eastman wrote:Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 bcu...@cullensfoods.com wrote:Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-06-18 Thread John Bokman

Thanks Brenton and Tim for your insight. Good to know I may be able to fit 
at least a 42mm knobby in there. For what it's worth, I believe (but am not 
certain) that after 2017, the size I ride (and Brenton rides) switched from 
58cm to 57cm. If this is correct, Brenton, your frame is likely a 2018 or 
newer. I need to get myself a pair of vernier calipers to accurately 
measure the space I've got at all the critical areas before spending lots 
of dough on new rubber!

John
On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 11:55:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> I have a friend with the same era Sam that we are discussing. I can 
> confirm that the Hurricane Ridge will definitely fit.  Not sure about the 
> Manastash. I am thinking about trying these as well. 
>
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 2:45:09 PM UTC-4 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> John, I believe mine is also a 2017 and similar to Tim I do not have any 
>> clearance issues. I do need to deflate a bit for install/removal due to 
>> brake pads. I’m in Portland as well if you ever wanna link up and get 
>> tire-nerdy in person. Also happy to share pictures. 
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Tim Bantham  wrote:
>>
>> John, my Sam is a 2017 model designed around side pulls. I am riding 
>> 44mm Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass on Velocity Quill rims. Paul Racer brakes. 
>> There is plenty of clearance for the tires front and rear but I do have to 
>> deflate the tires a bit to get them out. It's been a non-issue for me and 
>> the Sam is great with these tires!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 12:21:39 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>> Brent, what year model do you have? I'm under the impression that 
>>> earlier Sams (like my 2017, 58cm) do not accept as fat a tire as the newer 
>>> models (2018 onward)?
>>>
>>> My use case is trying to figure how fat a knobby I can install for an 
>>> upcoming offroad trip. Some say a 43mm wide knob is all that the frame will 
>>> accept, while the Riv site itself says 45mm tires fit - albeit not 
>>> necessarily a knobbed tire. 
>>>
>>> for the record, I'm on Velocity Dyad rims. And my Sam is designed around 
>>> side pull brakes, but I had canti posts installed so have more room in that 
>>> respect.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any info you may have.
>>> John 
>>> (in Portland OR)
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 6:37:12 PM UTC-7 Brent Eastman wrote:
>>>
 Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with 
 tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 
 Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. 

 On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 
 bcu...@cullensfoods.com wrote:

> Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
>> compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-06-18 Thread Tim Bantham

I have a friend with the same era Sam that we are discussing. I can confirm 
that the Hurricane Ridge will definitely fit.  Not sure about the 
Manastash. I am thinking about trying these as well. 

On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 2:45:09 PM UTC-4 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> John, I believe mine is also a 2017 and similar to Tim I do not have any 
> clearance issues. I do need to deflate a bit for install/removal due to 
> brake pads. I’m in Portland as well if you ever wanna link up and get 
> tire-nerdy in person. Also happy to share pictures. 
>
> On Jun 18, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Tim Bantham  wrote:
>
> John, my Sam is a 2017 model designed around side pulls. I am riding 44mm 
> Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass on Velocity Quill rims. Paul Racer brakes. There 
> is plenty of clearance for the tires front and rear but I do have to 
> deflate the tires a bit to get them out. It's been a non-issue for me and 
> the Sam is great with these tires!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 12:21:39 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Brent, what year model do you have? I'm under the impression that earlier 
>> Sams (like my 2017, 58cm) do not accept as fat a tire as the newer models 
>> (2018 onward)?
>>
>> My use case is trying to figure how fat a knobby I can install for an 
>> upcoming offroad trip. Some say a 43mm wide knob is all that the frame will 
>> accept, while the Riv site itself says 45mm tires fit - albeit not 
>> necessarily a knobbed tire. 
>>
>> for the record, I'm on Velocity Dyad rims. And my Sam is designed around 
>> side pull brakes, but I had canti posts installed so have more room in that 
>> respect.
>>
>> Thanks for any info you may have.
>> John 
>> (in Portland OR)
>>
>> On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 6:37:12 PM UTC-7 Brent Eastman wrote:
>>
>>> Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with 
>>> tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 
>>> Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 bcu...@cullensfoods.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 

 On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
> compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-06-18 Thread Brenton Eastman

John, I believe mine is also a 2017 and similar to Tim I do not have any clearance issues. I do need to deflate a bit for install/removal due to brake pads. I’m in Portland as well if you ever wanna link up and get tire-nerdy in person. Also happy to share pictures. On Jun 18, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Tim Bantham wrote:John, my Sam is a 2017 model designed around side pulls. I am riding 44mm Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass on Velocity Quill rims. Paul Racer brakes. There is plenty of clearance for the tires front and rear but I do have to deflate the tires a bit to get them out. It's been a non-issue for me and the Sam is great with these tires!On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 12:21:39 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:Brent, what year model do you have? I'm under the impression that earlier Sams (like my 2017, 58cm) do not accept as fat a tire as the newer models (2018 onward)?My use case is trying to figure how fat a knobby I can install for an upcoming offroad trip. Some say a 43mm wide knob is all that the frame will accept, while the Riv site itself says 45mm tires fit - albeit not necessarily a knobbed tire. for the record, I'm on Velocity Dyad rims. And my Sam is designed around side pull brakes, but I had canti posts installed so have more room in that respect.Thanks for any info you may have.John (in Portland OR)On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 6:37:12 PM UTC-7 Brent Eastman wrote:Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 bcu...@cullensfoods.com wrote:Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ?

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-06-18 Thread Tim Bantham

John, my Sam is a 2017 model designed around side pulls. I am riding 44mm 
Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass on Velocity Quill rims. Paul Racer brakes. There 
is plenty of clearance for the tires front and rear but I do have to 
deflate the tires a bit to get them out. It's been a non-issue for me and 
the Sam is great with these tires!

On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 12:21:39 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:

> Brent, what year model do you have? I'm under the impression that earlier 
> Sams (like my 2017, 58cm) do not accept as fat a tire as the newer models 
> (2018 onward)?
>
> My use case is trying to figure how fat a knobby I can install for an 
> upcoming offroad trip. Some say a 43mm wide knob is all that the frame will 
> accept, while the Riv site itself says 45mm tires fit - albeit not 
> necessarily a knobbed tire. 
>
> for the record, I'm on Velocity Dyad rims. And my Sam is designed around 
> side pull brakes, but I had canti posts installed so have more room in that 
> respect.
>
> Thanks for any info you may have.
> John 
> (in Portland OR)
>
> On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 6:37:12 PM UTC-7 Brent Eastman wrote:
>
>> Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with 
>> tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 
>> Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. 
>>
>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 bcu...@cullensfoods.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
 compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-06-18 Thread John Bokman

Brent, what year model do you have? I'm under the impression that earlier 
Sams (like my 2017, 58cm) do not accept as fat a tire as the newer models 
(2018 onward)?

My use case is trying to figure how fat a knobby I can install for an 
upcoming offroad trip. Some say a 43mm wide knob is all that the frame will 
accept, while the Riv site itself says 45mm tires fit - albeit not 
necessarily a knobbed tire. 

for the record, I'm on Velocity Dyad rims. And my Sam is designed around 
side pull brakes, but I had canti posts installed so have more room in that 
respect.

Thanks for any info you may have.
John 
(in Portland OR)

On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 6:37:12 PM UTC-7 Brent Eastman wrote:

> Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with 
> tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 
> Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. 
>
> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 bcu...@cullensfoods.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 
>>
>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
>>> compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-05-23 Thread Patrick Moore

Thanks, Andrew.

On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 5:10 PM Andrew Joseph 
wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> Thank you!
>
> Those little contraptions are actually called “Cable Cherries.”  They are
> easily installed and tightened via a 1.5 mm hex.  They are quite fun, come
> in some great colors and are available from Forager Cycles, and Paul, among
> others.  See below for the description from Forager…
>
> “The Cable Cherries are durable, reusable cable ends with a huge grip - no
> more crimps wiggling off leaving a frayed, pokey end! The easy-to-grab
> sphere shape makes adjusting cable tension or swapping components simple.
> Tape the included 1.5mm hex key to your tire lever, and you’re set!
>
> Easily grab the sphere to snug up your cable tension. Take them on and off
> as much as you need with the included 1.5mm hex key & set screw. The Cable
> Cherries are CNC machined in Oakland, CA on the same equipment that makes
> surgical pins & screws. Get 'em tight, and have 'em for life.”
> The saddle is a Berthoud Galibier.  A bit more narrow (and Ti rails) than
> their normal offerings.
>
> Hope this is helpful.
>
> Best,
>
> Drew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 23, 2024, at 6:01 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
> Andrew: nice. Pray, what is the little orange globular cable end -- I
> guess I really mean, how is it designed and how does it clamp to the cable
> -- and where do you get them?
>
> And, what is the saddle? Brooks Swift? Or trimmed Pro? Or another marque?
>
> Patrick Moore, ruthlessly bottom-trimming and wondering what to do with
> the very, very nice -- thick leather! -- as-new B17N that he got recently
> for ~$47 + shipping.
>
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 4:50 PM Andrew Joseph 
> wrote:
>
>> Better photos…
>>
>> 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-05-23 Thread Andrew Joseph

Patrick,Thank you! Those little contraptions are actually called “Cable Cherries.” They are easily installed and tightened via a 1.5 mm hex. They are quite fun, come in some great colors and are available from Forager Cycles, and Paul, among others. See below for the description from Forager…“The Cable Cherries are durable, reusable cable ends with a huge grip - no more crimps wiggling off leaving a frayed, pokey end! The easy-to-grab sphere shape makes adjusting cable tension or swapping components simple. Tape the included 1.5mm hex key to your tire lever, and you’re set!Easily grab the sphere to snug up your cable tension. Take them on and off as much as you need with the included 1.5mm hex key & set screw. The Cable Cherries are CNC machined in Oakland, CA on the same equipment that makes surgical pins & screws. Get 'em tight, and have 'em for life.”The saddle is a Berthoud Galibier. A bit more narrow (and Ti rails) than their normal offerings.Hope this is helpful.Best,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn May 23, 2024, at 6:01 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:Andrew: nice. Pray, what is the little orange globular cable end -- I guess I really mean, how is it designed and how does it clamp to the cable -- and where do you get them?And, what is the saddle? Brooks Swift? Or trimmed Pro? Or another marque?Patrick Moore, ruthlessly bottom-trimming and wondering what to do with the very, very nice -- thick leather! -- as-new B17N that he got recently for ~$47 + shipping.On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 4:50 PM Andrew Joseph wrote:Better photos…Sent from my iPhone

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-05-21 Thread Michael Baquerizo

Thanks Paul - the red is a custom color. I wanted something as similar to 
'Rad Red' that Richard Sachs was using a few years ago. There was supposed 
to be a hint of pink that didn't really come through, but i'm happy with it 
nonetheless. 

It was the result of buying a blem frame from Rivendell and deciding I was 
going to make it my own. I think it started it's life as an orange bike 
originally. 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 9:31:26 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Michael, 
> I don't think I ever saw a red Hillborne. Quite stunning. A custom color 
> or maybe the red which was used on a select few Atlanti?
> I have a good friend who owns a couple of Bob Jacksons and a couple of 
> Rivendells. So, that will be a question (his preference between them) I 
> will have to pose to him.
> Paul
>
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 02:13:26 PM EDT, Michael Baquerizo <
> mbaqu...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> my guy after an extremely long over due wash.
>
> i recently put together a bob jackson audax, trying to scratch the itch of 
> a rambouillet like frame. i hated it almost immediately and it made me 
> appreciate my Sam that much more. 
>
> Obviously missing a chain, missing a Campee rear rack as well. 
>
>
> [image: IMG_1284.jpeg]
>
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 1:31:49 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> I would love to have both a fenderless Sam set up with RH knobbies (or 
> similar) and a fendered, rando-type build like mine. It's that good of a 
> bike that I want two :D 
>
> Mine, yesterday on a 100km chill pace, many stops ride with a few friends
>
> [image: PXL_20240520_165707807.jpg]
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 7:18 AM Pancake  wrote:
>
> That is one FINE looking Sam! 
> I miss it already but sure happy you’re giving it a nice rebuild and 
> really riding it!
> Abe 
>
> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 2:03:50 PM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I finally got around to snapping a photo of my 56cm 2TT Sam that I snagged 
> from Abe here on the group. Exploring some of the unfinished Beltline here 
> in Atlanta.
>
> Highlights include a Paul Racers/levers/moon units, a Son Edelux & Dynamo 
> wheel from Rich, Rene Herse 44cm Manastash Ridge , Marks/Campee Nitto 
> racks, Deore XT Rapid Rise, Silver Shifters and Lots of Blue Lug 
> adornments(Frame pad, safety triangle, chain guard). Also, some bags I 
> already had(and match stupidly well) from The Spindle 
>  here in ATL. The Saddle is a Green B17 
> Special, though it looks black here. 
>
> Absolutely loving this bike, and really happy to have found the biggest 
> straight top tube frame I can stand over(834mm).
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-05-21 Thread Pancake

That is one FINE looking Sam! 
I miss it already but sure happy you’re giving it a nice rebuild and really 
riding it!
Abe 

On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 2:03:50 PM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I finally got around to snapping a photo of my 56cm 2TT Sam that I snagged 
> from Abe here on the group. Exploring some of the unfinished Beltline here 
> in Atlanta.
>
> Highlights include a Paul Racers/levers/moon units, a Son Edelux & Dynamo 
> wheel from Rich, Rene Herse 44cm Manastash Ridge , Marks/Campee Nitto 
> racks, Deore XT Rapid Rise, Silver Shifters and Lots of Blue Lug 
> adornments(Frame pad, safety triangle, chain guard). Also, some bags I 
> already had(and match stupidly well) from The Spindle 
>  here in ATL. The Saddle is a Green B17 
> Special, though it looks black here. 
>
> Absolutely loving this bike, and really happy to have found the biggest 
> straight top tube frame I can stand over(834mm).
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-15 Thread Doug H.

We are almost to 3:00 PM PST. Who is watching the clock and ready to buy a 
Sam Hillborne?
Doug

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 1:57:45 PM UTC-4 Curtis wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Sell the Homer and get a green Sam.  If you are even considering selling 
> the Homer, then that is the way to go.  Avoid future disappointment and 
> regret by getting the green Sam.
>
> One person's opion.
>
> Peace,  Curtis 
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2024, 10:49 AM Donzaemon  wrote:
>
>> I’m contemplating pulling the trigger on a Sam now that they’re available 
>> again. It was my first choice among Rivendell’s current lineup due to its 
>> all-rounder quality and its ability to take v-brakes, which I prefer over 
>> side-pulls and center pulls. Sadly, they weren’t available when I was in 
>> the market late last fall so rather than waiting six months for the next 
>> batch, I went with a Homer. 
>>
>> My first build on the Homer was with Billie bars, which provided a lot of 
>> comfort for the leisurely rides I like to take. The ride quality, in 
>> general, was very controlled and stable. However, the handling felt 
>> somewhat awkward for me while turning and on climbs when I’d have to get 
>> off the saddle. The reach was too short and I think the bars had too much 
>> back sweep. Rather than explore another upright bar, I began to wonder if 
>> drop bars would serve me better. One thing I noticed was that the tip tube 
>> was longish so if I were to switch to drops, I’d need a shorter stem (I was 
>> using a 110mm faceplater). I’ve since switched to drop bars (with 60mm 
>> stem) and after a brief stint with Simworks Wild Honey bars, I think I’ve 
>> settled on Ritchey Venturemax Classics.
>>
>> Now that the Sams are available again, I’m starting to wonder if I should 
>> sell the Homer and get one in green. I love the mustard color on my Homer, 
>> but I like green even more. When comparing geometries, I noticed that the 
>> chainstays are 2” shorter, but the top tube is 1” longer on the Sam. I felt 
>> the top tube on the Homer was long enough so maybe the longer Sam TT might 
>> be too long? 
>>
>> Should I rein in my wandering eye and stick with my Homer?
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 6:09:21 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect 
>>> all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's 
>>> planning to get a Sam Hillborne?
>>> Doug
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-15 Thread Curtis McKenzie

Hi,

Sell the Homer and get a green Sam.  If you are even considering selling
the Homer, then that is the way to go.  Avoid future disappointment and
regret by getting the green Sam.

One person's opion.

Peace,  Curtis

On Wed, May 15, 2024, 10:49 AM Donzaemon  wrote:

> I’m contemplating pulling the trigger on a Sam now that they’re available
> again. It was my first choice among Rivendell’s current lineup due to its
> all-rounder quality and its ability to take v-brakes, which I prefer over
> side-pulls and center pulls. Sadly, they weren’t available when I was in
> the market late last fall so rather than waiting six months for the next
> batch, I went with a Homer.
>
> My first build on the Homer was with Billie bars, which provided a lot of
> comfort for the leisurely rides I like to take. The ride quality, in
> general, was very controlled and stable. However, the handling felt
> somewhat awkward for me while turning and on climbs when I’d have to get
> off the saddle. The reach was too short and I think the bars had too much
> back sweep. Rather than explore another upright bar, I began to wonder if
> drop bars would serve me better. One thing I noticed was that the tip tube
> was longish so if I were to switch to drops, I’d need a shorter stem (I was
> using a 110mm faceplater). I’ve since switched to drop bars (with 60mm
> stem) and after a brief stint with Simworks Wild Honey bars, I think I’ve
> settled on Ritchey Venturemax Classics.
>
> Now that the Sams are available again, I’m starting to wonder if I should
> sell the Homer and get one in green. I love the mustard color on my Homer,
> but I like green even more. When comparing geometries, I noticed that the
> chainstays are 2” shorter, but the top tube is 1” longer on the Sam. I felt
> the top tube on the Homer was long enough so maybe the longer Sam TT might
> be too long?
>
> Should I rein in my wandering eye and stick with my Homer?
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 6:09:21 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect
>> all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's
>> planning to get a Sam Hillborne?
>> Doug
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-15 Thread Donzaemon

I’m contemplating pulling the trigger on a Sam now that they’re available 
again. It was my first choice among Rivendell’s current lineup due to its 
all-rounder quality and its ability to take v-brakes, which I prefer over 
side-pulls and center pulls. Sadly, they weren’t available when I was in 
the market late last fall so rather than waiting six months for the next 
batch, I went with a Homer. 

My first build on the Homer was with Billie bars, which provided a lot of 
comfort for the leisurely rides I like to take. The ride quality, in 
general, was very controlled and stable. However, the handling felt 
somewhat awkward for me while turning and on climbs when I’d have to get 
off the saddle. The reach was too short and I think the bars had too much 
back sweep. Rather than explore another upright bar, I began to wonder if 
drop bars would serve me better. One thing I noticed was that the tip tube 
was longish so if I were to switch to drops, I’d need a shorter stem (I was 
using a 110mm faceplater). I’ve since switched to drop bars (with 60mm 
stem) and after a brief stint with Simworks Wild Honey bars, I think I’ve 
settled on Ritchey Venturemax Classics.

Now that the Sams are available again, I’m starting to wonder if I should 
sell the Homer and get one in green. I love the mustard color on my Homer, 
but I like green even more. When comparing geometries, I noticed that the 
chainstays are 2” shorter, but the top tube is 1” longer on the Sam. I felt 
the top tube on the Homer was long enough so maybe the longer Sam TT might 
be too long? 

Should I rein in my wandering eye and stick with my Homer?

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 6:09:21 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect 
> all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's 
> planning to get a Sam Hillborne?
> Doug
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[RBW] Re: Sam Riders - help me pick the right size! 88 pbh

2024-05-15 Thread Michael

Thank you for the response! Thinking the 57 should work for me. Enjoy your 
Clem!

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:42:51 PM UTC-4 Chris Halasz wrote:

> Michael
>
> If it helps, I had a 60cm (double top tube) Sam, and sold it because I 
> thought it was just a bit big *for my* 89cm pbh. While I regret selling 
> now, I know I'd have preferred the then optional 58cm Sam. 
>
> Now that I'm riding more off-road, and appreciate the clearance, I'd 
> likely go for the 57cm size (and am so tempted to, if I wasn't just 
> finishing building a Clem L). 
>
> The new Sams are so nice. Enjoy!
>
> - Chris 
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 10:28:30 AM UTC-7 Michael wrote:
>
>> New to Rivendell bikes and looking to snag a sam; will most likely use 
>> albastache or albatross bars, possibly road but not initially.  PBH is 88 
>> and im thinking size 57. What is your experience? 
>> Thank you! 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Mathias Steiner

I'd love to ride one of these to get an idea what they are like.

By the numbers, it's within mm of my two touring bikes, a Cannondale T 
series and a Gordon BLT. The main difference is the slack seat tube angle, 
which basically just moves the saddle backwards 18 mm vs 73 degrees, by my 
math. But in terms of head tube angle, fork offset, chainstay length, top 
tube length -- you name it, it's within 5 or so mm. BB drop is 80 for the 
57 cm size, vs. 70 for my bicycles.

Out of curiosity, I'd appreciate it if someone would post the weight and 
size of their frame when they get it. Not that it'll tell me how it rides, 
but oversize, heat treated steel -- and a frame that is meant for 
"moderate" loads, I'd expect it to be fairly light.

My BLT is incredibly stiff, since it's built for loaded and off-road 
touring. The frame -- without fork -- weighs 3,700 g in the 52 cm size. 
Which is very similar to the 23"(58.4 cm) Cannondale in terms of effective 
seat and top tubes, as well as the 57 cm Sam. It's a great touring bike but 
I wouldn't call it lively when ridden empty.

I have a 1981 Motobécane Grand Touring that IS lively, tubing is standard 
size, and it weighs 2,370 g bare, with the headset cups installed and 
nothing else. It feels much lighter on the road. It's a pleasure to ride 
unloaded, and I don't think it would make a great loaded tourer. Despite 
the name.

I'd love to hear informed opinions on the Sam. Does anybody use one on 
brevets? 
One of these days, I'll have to get a Rivendell frame. It'l probably be a 
Roadini/Roadeo, but the Sam has always intrigued me. 

cheers -mathias

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 4:16:41 PM UTC-4 Drew Henson wrote:

> those new colors look great. i have a sam from the last run (i think) in 
> silver that i love. the homer is what originally attracted me to riv a long 
> time ago, but i think the current version of the sam is better in the 
> current version of the homer.
>
> i also had a crust romeo for a bit concurrently with the sam and while i 
> don't mind low trail, i preferred the sam and sold the crust. 
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 10:56:22 AM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> Ditto to what Jim said: sorely tempted, and I'm still doing final 
>> touch-up on my Clem build. 
>>
>> The new Sams are as ideal an expression of a Rivendell as the Clem. And I 
>> love the new colors.
>>
>> - Chris 
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:36:50 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>>
>>> I have to say that I haven't looked at a bike and felt a strong impulse 
>>> to buy in a long time. 
>>>
>>> But both of those colors tripped the switch for me. Unique and yet 
>>> wholly Riv. Very fine choices. There are going to be some lucky owners 
>>> looking back on this day and smiling.
>>>
>>> Found myself looking at them, thinking "y'know, I don't really have 
>>> a swept back bar setup"
>>>
>>> Temptingtempting
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 6:09:21 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect 
 all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's 
 planning to get a Sam Hillborne?
 Doug

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Riders - help me pick the right size! 88 pbh

2024-05-14 Thread Chris Halasz

Michael 

One more note: I had acquaintances my size who were riding 56cm Sams, and I 
was tempted by that size as well, and I typically size up! 

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 5:42:51 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:

> Michael
>
> If it helps, I had a 60cm (double top tube) Sam, and sold it because I 
> thought it was just a bit big *for my* 89cm pbh. While I regret selling 
> now, I know I'd have preferred the then optional 58cm Sam. 
>
> Now that I'm riding more off-road, and appreciate the clearance, I'd 
> likely go for the 57cm size (and am so tempted to, if I wasn't just 
> finishing building a Clem L). 
>
> The new Sams are so nice. Enjoy!
>
> - Chris 
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 10:28:30 AM UTC-7 Michael wrote:
>
>> New to Rivendell bikes and looking to snag a sam; will most likely use 
>> albastache or albatross bars, possibly road but not initially.  PBH is 88 
>> and im thinking size 57. What is your experience? 
>> Thank you! 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sam Riders - help me pick the right size! 88 pbh

2024-05-14 Thread Chris Halasz

Michael

If it helps, I had a 60cm (double top tube) Sam, and sold it because I 
thought it was just a bit big *for my* 89cm pbh. While I regret selling 
now, I know I'd have preferred the then optional 58cm Sam. 

Now that I'm riding more off-road, and appreciate the clearance, I'd likely 
go for the 57cm size (and am so tempted to, if I wasn't just finishing 
building a Clem L). 

The new Sams are so nice. Enjoy!

- Chris 

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> New to Rivendell bikes and looking to snag a sam; will most likely use 
> albastache or albatross bars, possibly road but not initially.  PBH is 88 
> and im thinking size 57. What is your experience? 
> Thank you! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Drew Henson

those new colors look great. i have a sam from the last run (i think) in 
silver that i love. the homer is what originally attracted me to riv a long 
time ago, but i think the current version of the sam is better in the 
current version of the homer.

i also had a crust romeo for a bit concurrently with the sam and while i 
don't mind low trail, i preferred the sam and sold the crust. 

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 10:56:22 AM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:

> Ditto to what Jim said: sorely tempted, and I'm still doing final touch-up 
> on my Clem build. 
>
> The new Sams are as ideal an expression of a Rivendell as the Clem. And I 
> love the new colors.
>
> - Chris 
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:36:50 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> I have to say that I haven't looked at a bike and felt a strong impulse 
>> to buy in a long time. 
>>
>> But both of those colors tripped the switch for me. Unique and yet wholly 
>> Riv. Very fine choices. There are going to be some lucky owners looking 
>> back on this day and smiling.
>>
>> Found myself looking at them, thinking "y'know, I don't really have a 
>> swept back bar setup"
>>
>> Temptingtempting
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 6:09:21 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect 
>>> all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's 
>>> planning to get a Sam Hillborne?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Chris Halasz

Ditto to what Jim said: sorely tempted, and I'm still doing final touch-up 
on my Clem build. 

The new Sams are as ideal an expression of a Rivendell as the Clem. And I 
love the new colors.

- Chris 

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:36:50 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> I have to say that I haven't looked at a bike and felt a strong impulse to 
> buy in a long time. 
>
> But both of those colors tripped the switch for me. Unique and yet wholly 
> Riv. Very fine choices. There are going to be some lucky owners looking 
> back on this day and smiling.
>
> Found myself looking at them, thinking "y'know, I don't really have a 
> swept back bar setup"
>
> Temptingtempting
>
> J
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 6:09:21 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect 
>> all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's 
>> planning to get a Sam Hillborne?
>> Doug
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

I have to say that I haven't looked at a bike and felt a strong impulse to 
buy in a long time. 

But both of those colors tripped the switch for me. Unique and yet wholly 
Riv. Very fine choices. There are going to be some lucky owners looking 
back on this day and smiling.

Found myself looking at them, thinking "y'know, I don't really have a 
swept back bar setup"

Temptingtempting

J

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 6:09:21 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect 
> all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's 
> planning to get a Sam Hillborne?
> Doug
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-05-09 Thread Andrew Joseph

Hey Brian,One vote for the more classic green with brown accents…Now, if the Romanceur is gone, and you decide to sell the Roadini…I would do Periwinkle. If the Roadini and the rest of your stable stays, I think you will love the green and it would complement the others well.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 9, 2024, at 12:18 AM, Brian Watts wrote:Howdy! I'm very excited to snag a Sam next Wednesday; I'll move over my Crust Romanceur bits: albatross, Paul Canti, White Ind. cranks etc. I'm so torn on the colors!! Fun bright periwinkle with more subdued accents or classic green with brown accents. INPUT??On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 8:14:34 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:Howdy gang,After an unsuccessful attempt at finding a 58 Mustard Homer…I take delivery of this size 57, new to me, Sam today! I am pumped, and it should be an excellent canvas as a HiHo Silver specimen.I wanted to take a moment in light of recent scammy trends and briefly introduce myself. Happy to answer any follow up questions as well. I returned to bikes following a nominal investment in the bike infrastructure by Oklahoma City leadership. But the investment did at least provide a system of trails and paved pathways that allows for a good amount of riding off of the roadway. Unfortunately, I have had close friends struck and killed by vehicles on bikes and motorcycles. The environment has to be nearly perfect for me to feel even remotely comfortable touring on roads exclusively. The level of trust road cyclists have in the drivers passing by has always fascinated me. Driving is one of the most dangerous activities we can engage in. Anyhow enough of that. I began with Surly bikes, then quickly to Crust bikes, and finally…thanks to Blue Lug photography inspiration, a 58 Homer. The Homer is currently my favorite Riv. I have owned an orange Ram that was slightly too tall and an Atlantis 2 that could have worked but required some significant frame repair. Sold both bikes to Jarrod Bunk, an incredible person and former owner of Hope Cyclery. James knocked out the Homer build and Rich built a White/dynamo Quill wheelset. The bike fit like a tailored suit. My build was loosely modeled after the interpretation of James Homer prior to his latest Staff bike mods. Why did I sell it? Possibly the very cool buyer, maybe an attempt to cull bikes that couldn’t perform as well in NWA dirt touring (what was I thinking?), impulse, maybe some guilt in owning more bikes than my Wife (my best bud). I do regret selling it. But always forward. I traded a Crust Bombora for the Sam that I realized very quickly I was attempting to make more comfortable and upright like my Homer. I acknowledged this and happily traded. Hence the remaining ENVE wheels and White crankset I posted on the group recently. Let’s see, I have more than a few kiddos, three of the kids now ride also which is such a joy and I also train BJJ, weight lift/run. Some questions…The cockpit worked well for me, with an 80mm lugged stem and 90 reach Crust Shaka bar. I have received some helpful feedback already regarding this Sam. I would like to have a similar cockpit, if not the same with a Noodle or Shaka bar. Do I need a shorter stem?I have a new 85mm 90-190 stem. I wouldn’t mind running the Shaka again. Or snag a 70/80 stem to try the Noodle?Either way, I hope to buy a longer lugged stem from Jim and pick up an Albatross down the road. I certainly hope to try that one day. Anyone have any feedback on the H SON PLUS wheelset? No experience beyond Velocity and Crust wheels. Also my first experience with Campy. Will also be switching the saddle, seatpost, pedals, adding Moon Units, cages, and cable cherries.Photos of my previous Homer, and the Sam as it will arrive (hopefully)…Hope everyone is having a great week so far. Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 29, 2024, at 12:30 AM, Tom wrote:<2_sams.JPG>Been a long while since I've posted here...I'm getting back to biking more these days, and enjoying reading about these wonderful bikes, esp. those of the newcomers to the Riv family. The Sam is my favorite Riv. The ol' 58 with albatross bars in the last pic used to be mine until my wife decided she needed it. So I got another 58, set it up with a noodle bar and really enjoyed it. For various reasons I sold my 58 and dabbled with a several other Riv models for a while. They were fun, too! But I missed that Sam. Late in 2019 Riv had a great deal on a batch of older Sams, so a 62 dbl top tube f/f/hs found its way into my garage, and I built it up. Still have it and recently began to enjoy it greatly as a relaxed run-a-bout.But I still miss that 58 with noodle bar. If anyone has one (or a 57 Roadini) please let me know. Thanks!Tom On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 1:35:39 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:After seeing various Sam owners pictures here and there on various threads I thought I would start a thread dedicated to the versatile Sam's.Perhaps such a thre

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-05-08 Thread Brian Watts

Howdy! I'm very excited to snag a Sam next Wednesday; I'll move over my 
Crust Romanceur bits: albatross, Paul Canti, White Ind. cranks etc. I'm so 
torn on the colors!! Fun bright periwinkle with more subdued accents or 
classic green with brown accents. INPUT??

On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 8:14:34 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Howdy gang,
>
> After an unsuccessful attempt at finding a 58 Mustard Homer…I take 
> delivery of this size 57, new to me, Sam today! I am pumped, and it should 
> be an excellent canvas as a HiHo Silver specimen.
>
> I wanted to take a moment in light of recent scammy trends and briefly 
> introduce myself. Happy to answer any follow up questions as well.  
>
> I returned to bikes following a nominal investment in the bike 
> infrastructure by Oklahoma City leadership.  But the investment did at 
> least provide a system of trails and paved pathways that allows for a good 
> amount of riding off of the roadway.  
>
> Unfortunately, I have had close friends struck and killed by vehicles on 
> bikes and motorcycles.  The environment has to be nearly perfect for me to 
> feel even remotely comfortable touring on roads exclusively.  The level of 
> trust road cyclists have in the drivers passing by has always fascinated 
> me.  Driving is one of the most dangerous activities we can engage in. 
>  Anyhow enough of that.  
>
> I began with Surly bikes, then quickly to Crust bikes, and finally…thanks 
> to Blue Lug photography inspiration, a 58 Homer.  
>
> The Homer is currently my favorite Riv.  I have owned an orange Ram that 
> was slightly too tall and an Atlantis 2 that could have worked but required 
> some significant frame repair.  Sold both bikes to Jarrod Bunk, an 
> incredible person and former owner of Hope Cyclery. 
>
> James knocked out the Homer build and Rich built a White/dynamo Quill 
> wheelset. The bike fit like a tailored suit.  My build was loosely modeled 
> after the interpretation of James Homer prior to his latest Staff bike 
> mods.  
>
> Why did I sell it?  Possibly the very cool buyer, maybe an attempt to cull 
> bikes that couldn’t perform as well in NWA dirt touring (what was I 
> thinking?), impulse, maybe some guilt in owning more bikes than my Wife (my 
> best bud).  I do regret selling it.  But always forward. 
>
> I traded a Crust Bombora for the Sam that I realized very quickly I was 
> attempting to make more comfortable and upright like my Homer. I 
> acknowledged this and happily traded.  Hence the remaining ENVE wheels and 
> White crankset I posted on the group recently. 
>
> Let’s see, I have more than a few kiddos, three of the kids now ride also 
> which is such a joy and I also train BJJ, weight lift/run.  
>
> Some questions…
>
> The cockpit worked well for me, with an 80mm lugged stem and 90 reach 
> Crust Shaka bar.  
>
> I have received some helpful feedback already regarding this Sam.  I would 
> like to have a similar cockpit, if not the same with a Noodle or Shaka bar. 
> Do I need a shorter stem?
>
> I have a new 85mm 90-190 stem.  I wouldn’t mind running the Shaka again. 
>  Or snag a 70/80 stem to try the Noodle?
>
> Either way, I hope to buy a longer lugged stem from Jim and pick up an 
> Albatross down the road.  I certainly hope to try that one day. 
>
> Anyone have any feedback on the H SON PLUS wheelset?  No experience beyond 
> Velocity and Crust wheels.  Also my first experience with Campy. 
>
> Will also be switching the saddle, seatpost, pedals, adding Moon Units, 
> cages, and cable cherries.
>
> Photos of my previous Homer, and the Sam as it will arrive (hopefully)…
>
> Hope everyone is having a great week so far. 
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
> [image: image1.jpeg]Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 29, 2024, at 12:30 AM, Tom  wrote:
>
> 
> 
>
>
> 
>
> <2_sams.JPG>
>
>
> Been a long while since I've posted here...I'm getting back to biking more 
> these days, and enjoying reading about these wonderful bikes, esp. those of 
> the newcomers to the Riv family.
>
> The Sam is my favorite Riv.  The ol' 58 with albatross bars in the last 
> pic used to be mine until my wife decided she needed it.  So I got another 
> 58, set it up with a noodle bar and really enjoyed it.  For various reasons 
> I sold my 58 and dabbled with a several other Riv models for a while.  They 
> were fun, too!  
>
> But I missed that Sam.  
>
> Late in 2019 Riv had a great deal on a batch of older Sams, so a 62 dbl 
> top tube f/f/hs found its way into my garage, and I built it up.  Still 
> have it and recently began to enjoy it greatly as a relaxed run-a-bout.
>
> But I still miss that 58 with noodle bar.  If anyone has one (or a 57 
> Roadini) please let me know.  Thanks!
>
> Tom
>
>  
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 1:35:39 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> After seeing various Sam owners pictures here and there on various 
>> threads I thought I would start a thread dedicated to the versatile Sam's.
>>
>> Perhaps such a thread alr

RE: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-04-23 Thread Bernard Duhon

The brake pad on my racers hit the seatstay & front fork which restricts the 
opening.
I have to deflate a 38mm tire.



From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Nathan Mattia
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2024 12:44 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

My 51 cm 650b w the Tektro side-pulls runs the 41-ish Fatty Rumpkins right now.

I am curious if the Paul Racers would allow me to go bigger as well.
On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 11:14:36 AM UTC-5 
brenton...@gmail.com<mailto:brenton...@gmail.com> wrote:
I’ve had the 48 file tread without issue. I’ve seen people run the 48 knobbies 
on side pull Sams as well.
On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 8:23:48 AM UTC-7 Drew Fitchette wrote:
@brenton were the RH slicks or knobby?

On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 9:37:12 PM UTC-4 Brenton Eastman wrote:
Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with tektro 
side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 Rene herse, 
and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need.
On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 
bcu...@cullensfoods.com<mailto:bcu...@cullensfoods.com> wrote:
Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out?
On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 
eliot...@gmail.com<mailto:eliot...@gmail.com> wrote:
How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have compared to 
say a Paul Racer side pull ?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-04-23 Thread Brenton Eastman

Oh yeah, I have to deflate anything over 42 to clear my tektro 559s. On Apr 23, 2024, at 11:00 AM, Chris Halasz  wrote:Are all keeping in mind whether a caliper brake that accommodates wider tires may may introduce the inconvenience of having to deflate a tire for wheel removal, which may not be the case for cantilevers? On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 10:43:36 AM UTC-7 Nathan Mattia wrote:My 51 cm 650b w the Tektro side-pulls runs the 41-ish Fatty Rumpkins right now. I am curious if the Paul Racers would allow me to go bigger as well. On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 11:14:36 AM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:I’ve had the 48 file tread without issue. I’ve seen people run the 48 knobbies on side pull Sams as well. On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 8:23:48 AM UTC-7 Drew Fitchette wrote:@brenton were the RH slicks or knobby?On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 9:37:12 PM UTC-4 Brenton Eastman wrote:Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 bcu...@cullensfoods.com wrote:Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ?




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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-04-23 Thread Drew Fitchette

The listed clearance for Racers is 54mm. Though I assume anything north or 
40mm might need deflation if you're using the Salmon Kool-Stops for removal.

James from Riv said this re: the racers on his Homer:


"I've set up my homer with 50mm shikoros that actually measured closer to 
45mm. That set up was a little tight and rubbed when I pedaled out of the 
saddle due to frame flex. 

 

I think 45's would be ideal if they were knobby and 48 if they're slick."

On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 1:54:20 PM UTC-4 Chris Halasz wrote:

> Are all keeping in mind whether a caliper brake that accommodates wider 
> tires may may introduce the inconvenience of having to deflate a tire for 
> wheel removal, which may not be the case for cantilevers? 
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 10:43:36 AM UTC-7 Nathan Mattia wrote:
>
>> My 51 cm 650b w the Tektro side-pulls runs the 41-ish Fatty Rumpkins 
>> right now. 
>>
>> I am curious if the Paul Racers would allow me to go bigger as well. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 11:14:36 AM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve had the 48 file tread without issue. I’ve seen people run the 48 
>>> knobbies on side pull Sams as well. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 8:23:48 AM UTC-7 Drew Fitchette wrote:
>>>
 @brenton were the RH slicks or knobby?

 On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 9:37:12 PM UTC-4 Brenton Eastman wrote:

> Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with 
> tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 
> Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. 
>
> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 
> bcu...@cullensfoods.com wrote:
>
>> Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 
>>
>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
>>> compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-04-23 Thread Chris Halasz

Are all keeping in mind whether a caliper brake that accommodates wider 
tires may may introduce the inconvenience of having to deflate a tire for 
wheel removal, which may not be the case for cantilevers? 

On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 10:43:36 AM UTC-7 Nathan Mattia wrote:

> My 51 cm 650b w the Tektro side-pulls runs the 41-ish Fatty Rumpkins right 
> now. 
>
> I am curious if the Paul Racers would allow me to go bigger as well. 
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 11:14:36 AM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I’ve had the 48 file tread without issue. I’ve seen people run the 48 
>> knobbies on side pull Sams as well. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 8:23:48 AM UTC-7 Drew Fitchette wrote:
>>
>>> @brenton were the RH slicks or knobby?
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 9:37:12 PM UTC-4 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>>>
 Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with 
 tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 
 Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. 

 On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 
 bcu...@cullensfoods.com wrote:

> Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
>> compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-04-23 Thread Nathan Mattia

My 51 cm 650b w the Tektro side-pulls runs the 41-ish Fatty Rumpkins right 
now. 

I am curious if the Paul Racers would allow me to go bigger as well. 

On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 11:14:36 AM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve had the 48 file tread without issue. I’ve seen people run the 48 
> knobbies on side pull Sams as well. 
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 8:23:48 AM UTC-7 Drew Fitchette wrote:
>
>> @brenton were the RH slicks or knobby?
>>
>> On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 9:37:12 PM UTC-4 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>>
>>> Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with 
>>> tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 
>>> Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 bcu...@cullensfoods.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 

 On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
> compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 



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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-04-23 Thread John Bokman

Black and green are very, very nice. However, I'm excited to see a 
Periwinkle up on the Riv site! Might have to get Sam #2.

John

On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 9:18:12 PM UTC-7 gre...@gmail.com wrote:

> Love this Sam. Is this the same green the new batch of Sam's are coming in?
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 8:21:13 a.m. UTC-6 Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
>> [image: Image (002).jpeg]T
>> This bike brings me tremendous joy
>> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 11:26:18 PM UTC-5 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>>  I already own one  - a pumpkin orange from 2017. If they offer the new 
>>> one in the black they once sold, I'm in for another! I'll set it up as my 
>>> "fast" Sam - no racks, light wheels and tires, etc. That is far and away my 
>>> favorite of all the Riv colors I've seen, across the fleet.
>>>
>>> John
>>> Portland OR
>>> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 4:41:21 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Who plans to buy a Sam Hillborne in May when they are due to arrive? 
 And, I wonder what colors they will offer. This photo thread is fun to 
 see. 
 Doug

 On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 6:24:11 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Great to see all these beautiful and functional Hillbornes. Although I 
> don't have one myself, I do think the Hillborne blue/grey is my favorite 
> of 
> the Rivendell colors. 
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 1:17:36 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> It is fun to see the variety of builds on the Sam's.
>>
>> It looks like the majority have some type of upright / swept back 
>> style handlebars
>> although of course the Sam is so versatile to accommodate a road bar 
>> if preferred .
>>
>> If recalling correctly I saw orange, silver, light blue , green, 
>> black and a yellow perhaps mustard like color Sam. (Not sure what Riv 
>> called it)
>>
>> Cool stuff.
>>
>> I'm enjoying the thread.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-04-23 Thread Brenton Eastman

I’ve had the 48 file tread without issue. I’ve seen people run the 48 
knobbies on side pull Sams as well. 

On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 8:23:48 AM UTC-7 Drew Fitchette wrote:

> @brenton were the RH slicks or knobby?
>
> On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 9:37:12 PM UTC-4 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>
>> Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with 
>> tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 
>> Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. 
>>
>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 bcu...@cullensfoods.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
 compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-04-23 Thread Drew Fitchette

@brenton were the RH slicks or knobby?

On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 9:37:12 PM UTC-4 Brenton Eastman wrote:

> Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with 
> tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 
> Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. 
>
> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 bcu...@cullensfoods.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 
>>
>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
>>> compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-04-22 Thread Grady Wright

Love this Sam. Is this the same green the new batch of Sam's are coming in?

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 8:21:13 a.m. UTC-6 Davey Two Shoes wrote:

> [image: Image (002).jpeg]T
> This bike brings me tremendous joy
> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 11:26:18 PM UTC-5 John Bokman wrote:
>
>>  I already own one  - a pumpkin orange from 2017. If they offer the new 
>> one in the black they once sold, I'm in for another! I'll set it up as my 
>> "fast" Sam - no racks, light wheels and tires, etc. That is far and away my 
>> favorite of all the Riv colors I've seen, across the fleet.
>>
>> John
>> Portland OR
>> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 4:41:21 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Who plans to buy a Sam Hillborne in May when they are due to arrive? 
>>> And, I wonder what colors they will offer. This photo thread is fun to see. 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 6:24:11 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Great to see all these beautiful and functional Hillbornes. Although I 
 don't have one myself, I do think the Hillborne blue/grey is my favorite 
 of 
 the Rivendell colors. 

 Cheers, John

 On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 1:17:36 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> It is fun to see the variety of builds on the Sam's.
>
> It looks like the majority have some type of upright / swept back 
> style handlebars
> although of course the Sam is so versatile to accommodate a road bar 
> if preferred .
>
> If recalling correctly I saw orange, silver, light blue , green, black 
> and a yellow perhaps mustard like color Sam. (Not sure what Riv called it)
>
> Cool stuff.
>
> I'm enjoying the thread.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>


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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-04-19 Thread Brenton Eastman

Definitely would need to know your frame/wheel size. My 57cm Sam with 
tektro side pulls and 700c Velocity Dyad hoops clears a 47 teravail, 48 
Rene herse, and 50 gravel king. Not sure how much bigger you’d need. 

On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-7 bcu...@cullensfoods.com 
wrote:

> Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
>> compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

2024-04-13 Thread Ben Cullen

Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
> compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-02-26 Thread John Bokman

 I already own one  - a pumpkin orange from 2017. If they offer the new one 
in the black they once sold, I'm in for another! I'll set it up as my 
"fast" Sam - no racks, light wheels and tires, etc. That is far and away my 
favorite of all the Riv colors I've seen, across the fleet.

John
Portland OR
On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 4:41:21 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Who plans to buy a Sam Hillborne in May when they are due to arrive? And, 
> I wonder what colors they will offer. This photo thread is fun to see. 
> Doug
>
> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 6:24:11 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Great to see all these beautiful and functional Hillbornes. Although I 
>> don't have one myself, I do think the Hillborne blue/grey is my favorite of 
>> the Rivendell colors. 
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 1:17:36 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>> It is fun to see the variety of builds on the Sam's.
>>>
>>> It looks like the majority have some type of upright / swept back style 
>>> handlebars
>>> although of course the Sam is so versatile to accommodate a road bar if 
>>> preferred .
>>>
>>> If recalling correctly I saw orange, silver, light blue , green, black 
>>> and a yellow perhaps mustard like color Sam. (Not sure what Riv called it)
>>>
>>> Cool stuff.
>>>
>>> I'm enjoying the thread.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-02-26 Thread Doug H.

Who plans to buy a Sam Hillborne in May when they are due to arrive? And, I 
wonder what colors they will offer. This photo thread is fun to see. 
Doug

On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 6:24:11 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Great to see all these beautiful and functional Hillbornes. Although I 
> don't have one myself, I do think the Hillborne blue/grey is my favorite of 
> the Rivendell colors. 
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 1:17:36 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> It is fun to see the variety of builds on the Sam's.
>>
>> It looks like the majority have some type of upright / swept back style 
>> handlebars
>> although of course the Sam is so versatile to accommodate a road bar if 
>> preferred .
>>
>> If recalling correctly I saw orange, silver, light blue , green, black 
>> and a yellow perhaps mustard like color Sam. (Not sure what Riv called it)
>>
>> Cool stuff.
>>
>> I'm enjoying the thread.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-02-26 Thread John Rinker

Great to see all these beautiful and functional Hillbornes. Although I 
don't have one myself, I do think the Hillborne blue/grey is my favorite of 
the Rivendell colors. 

Cheers, John

On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 1:17:36 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> It is fun to see the variety of builds on the Sam's.
>
> It looks like the majority have some type of upright / swept back style 
> handlebars
> although of course the Sam is so versatile to accommodate a road bar if 
> preferred .
>
> If recalling correctly I saw orange, silver, light blue , green, black and 
> a yellow perhaps mustard like color Sam. (Not sure what Riv called it)
>
> Cool stuff.
>
> I'm enjoying the thread.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-02-24 Thread Norman R

https://www.flickr.com/groups/hillborne/pool/with/35194167362/
 I'm not sure how active this group still is but lots of great content.
-Norman 

On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 3:10:35 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:

> Enjoying this thread.
>
> Curious about the conti race kings. Those are 2.0s and they fit? Or am I 
> missing something?
>
> I've used Cazadero 50s and they cleared, but I didn't like them enough and 
> missed fenders. I'm always curious about other tires in that range though.
>
> I'll put a pic up eventually, but mine has RH hurricane ridge/Snoqualmie 
> pass, VO zeppelin fenders and the widest towel racks. I'm enjoying that 
> combo. I just added a nitto 34f and am not minding it, but haven't tried 
> really loading it down yet.
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 10:57:18 AM UTC-6 Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>> [image: Blued Sam.jpg]
>> Here's mine, many miles on this dude.  2X9 drive, Bosco Bars and C19 
>> saddle.
>>
>> Marc
>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 1:35:39 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>> After seeing various Sam owners pictures here and there on various 
>>> threads I thought I would start a thread dedicated to the versatile Sam's.
>>>
>>> Perhaps such a thread already exists?
>>>
>>> No worries if it does and perhaps someone could post a link if there is 
>>> one out there.
>>>
>>> Here is my Sam with upright bars.
>>>
>>> I'm an older Riv owner , almost 74 and still love riding and working on 
>>> bikes.
>>>
>>> I managed just over 2700 miles in 2023 ( not all on the Sam)
>>>  and hope to top that in 2024 the Good Lord willing.
>>>
>>> My bars are the  Sunlite North Road alloy version.
>>> ( They also have a steel version)
>>> I like these North Roads so much I have them on multiple bikes 
>>>
>>> I have a very tall stem column , (forget the brand)
>>> and a thread less stem, Origin8 I think.
>>> I need the bars way up for the old back.
>>> It works well for me and I've done up to 73 miles on it set up this way.
>>>
>>> I have a triple crank (need the granny to get up hills).
>>>  I'm using the more 
>>> modern Dia Compe thumb shifters, 
>>> Shimano derailers, 
>>> Tektro 559 brake calipers, 
>>> Velocity Dyad rims / Deore hubs wheelset and Soma Supple Vitesse EX 
>>> tires in a 700x42.
>>>
>>> I do recommend these tires as they are supple, seem to roll fast and 
>>> smooth and are relatively light for a tire this size at 380g's. No flats in 
>>> guessing 600 or so miles.
>>>
>>> The tan saddle is an Origin8 Comfort in about the same width as a B17. 
>>> It works well for me. I like the look and it's only about $40.
>>>
>>> I like working on bikes and built my Sam up myself.
>>>
>>> Safe riding to all.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas, TX area
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-02-24 Thread Adam

Enjoying this thread.

Curious about the conti race kings. Those are 2.0s and they fit? Or am I 
missing something?

I've used Cazadero 50s and they cleared, but I didn't like them enough and 
missed fenders. I'm always curious about other tires in that range though.

I'll put a pic up eventually, but mine has RH hurricane ridge/Snoqualmie 
pass, VO zeppelin fenders and the widest towel racks. I'm enjoying that 
combo. I just added a nitto 34f and am not minding it, but haven't tried 
really loading it down yet.

Adam


On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 10:57:18 AM UTC-6 Marc Irwin wrote:

> [image: Blued Sam.jpg]
> Here's mine, many miles on this dude.  2X9 drive, Bosco Bars and C19 
> saddle.
>
> Marc
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 1:35:39 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> After seeing various Sam owners pictures here and there on various 
>> threads I thought I would start a thread dedicated to the versatile Sam's.
>>
>> Perhaps such a thread already exists?
>>
>> No worries if it does and perhaps someone could post a link if there is 
>> one out there.
>>
>> Here is my Sam with upright bars.
>>
>> I'm an older Riv owner , almost 74 and still love riding and working on 
>> bikes.
>>
>> I managed just over 2700 miles in 2023 ( not all on the Sam)
>>  and hope to top that in 2024 the Good Lord willing.
>>
>> My bars are the  Sunlite North Road alloy version.
>> ( They also have a steel version)
>> I like these North Roads so much I have them on multiple bikes 
>>
>> I have a very tall stem column , (forget the brand)
>> and a thread less stem, Origin8 I think.
>> I need the bars way up for the old back.
>> It works well for me and I've done up to 73 miles on it set up this way.
>>
>> I have a triple crank (need the granny to get up hills).
>>  I'm using the more 
>> modern Dia Compe thumb shifters, 
>> Shimano derailers, 
>> Tektro 559 brake calipers, 
>> Velocity Dyad rims / Deore hubs wheelset and Soma Supple Vitesse EX tires 
>> in a 700x42.
>>
>> I do recommend these tires as they are supple, seem to roll fast and 
>> smooth and are relatively light for a tire this size at 380g's. No flats in 
>> guessing 600 or so miles.
>>
>> The tan saddle is an Origin8 Comfort in about the same width as a B17. 
>> It works well for me. I like the look and it's only about $40.
>>
>> I like working on bikes and built my Sam up myself.
>>
>> Safe riding to all.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas, TX area
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-02-23 Thread Jay

Love these photos, and the contrasts in builds.  I have a Roadini (2 weeks 
old)...maybe a Sam will be in my future.

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 11:01:56 AM UTC-5 Cal Patterson wrote:

> Here's mine in a light snow last fall.  2x9, fendered 42's.  Love the 
> upside down Billie bars.  It is such a great ride, handles like a dream.
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 7:37:13 AM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: 05F29C48-D89B-4E95-818C-47654DE56CBA.jpeg]
>>
>> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 12:30:19 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I like this photo from last weekend for the rustic vibes 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2024-02-22 at 9.26.02 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday 20 February 2024 at 08:33:42 UTC-8 brianmark...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 48mm. I also had bilenky dimple the chain stays; it fit a 48 without it 
 but it was a tad close

 On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 11:30:09 AM UTC-5 Max S wrote:

> Oooh... I really like the look and the idea of this one!.. How bit a 
> 650b tire does it fit now? 
>
> - Max "wish I had friends with acetylene torches" in A2
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-5 
> brianmark...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Here’s mine, I’ve had it for two years or so. 56cm double tt, got the 
>> frame in this group, had a friend add canti bosses at 650b, and had it 
>> painted at Bilenky cycles in Philly. My favorite bike aside from my 
>> cargo 
>> bike, and I have to constantly convince myself it’s not the only bike I 
>> need. Currently in “rando” mode, but I’ve mostly had it with a basket in 
>> front and R14 in the rear. Really can do pretty much everything, and so 
>> comfortably! 
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:17:00 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_3348.JPG]
>>> 14 years and 4 months old...best bike I've ever had.
>>> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 11:36:22 AM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>
 Paul, I have a A.H. Homer for spirted mixed-surface riding. But I 
 figured I would get a 2015 (new) Sam Hillborne  for my touring needs. 
 It is 
 a bit stouter and capable for riding fully loaded, sometimes on dirt. 
 Confidence-building off road, mainly rail trails. I have it set up 
 with a 
 Nitto rear rack and a Rivendell HAR front rack. Two to four Ortlieb 
 panniers and a Sugarloaf basket bag will take me for 5-day unsupported 
 trips without worry..
 I love this bike as a dedicated tourer but often pull the rear rack 
 for local riding. I find the mustache bars with the 100mm stem allows 
 for 
 "stretching out" on longer days in the saddle. 
 I'm outfitted with 35mm tires because of the VO fenders, which I 
 find very helpful for mid-Atlantic and mid-West multi-day touring. I'd 
 love 
 to try it on the C&O Towpath with wider rubber, but would miss the 
 comfort 
 that fenders give.
 Here's my "Tuxedo Sam":
 [image: IMG_8012.jpeg] 

 Also:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/53503542529/in/dateposted-public/

 Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.
 On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 1:24:03 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> Here are some pictures of my Hillborne, 2020 model in "Dark Gold" 
> with Cantilever bosses and the seatstay "socket" lug.
> I purchased the frame new through Golden Pliers here in PDX and 
> built it up myself, including wheels.
> Build notes:
> Wheels - Rear White Industries T11 hub, front SON Dyno hub, 32h 
> laced with Sapim butted spokes to Velocity Dyed rims, currently 
> running 
> Panaracer Pasela Protite 650b x 42 tires with silver Velo Orange Wavy 
> fenders.
>
> Drivetrain - 2 x 9 with 170 Sugino XD2 triple crank with homemade 
> bashguard on outer ring, 38 x 24 middle/inner rings & 11-34 cassette, 
> shifted by Microshift thumbies,  Ultegra front and rear derailleurs 
> Jagwire 
> gold braided cable housing.
>
> Cockpit - Bosco bars and Nitto 130mm faceplate quill stem, 
> harlequin wrapped with orange and yellow Newbaums and a few coats of 
> clear 
> shellac. Paul Components orange Love Levers pulling Paul Motolite 
> brakes, 
> ESI silicone grips, Spurcycle limited-edition bell with orange 
> striker.
>
> Racks & Bags - Wald 137 basket mounted to Nitto Mark's rack with 
> Marigold Outershell basketbag and limited edition Swift 
> Industries/Camp and 
> Go Slow Sideaddladdlebagkick stem pouch. Matching Zeitgeist saddlebag 
> supported by rear-mounted Nitto M18  rack.
>
> Flickr album here: https://flic.kr/s/aH

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-02-20 Thread Brian McDermott

48mm. I also had bilenky dimple the chain stays; it fit a 48 without it but 
it was a tad close

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 11:30:09 AM UTC-5 Max S wrote:

> Oooh... I really like the look and the idea of this one!.. How bit a 650b 
> tire does it fit now? 
>
> - Max "wish I had friends with acetylene torches" in A2
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-5 brianmark...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Here’s mine, I’ve had it for two years or so. 56cm double tt, got the 
>> frame in this group, had a friend add canti bosses at 650b, and had it 
>> painted at Bilenky cycles in Philly. My favorite bike aside from my cargo 
>> bike, and I have to constantly convince myself it’s not the only bike I 
>> need. Currently in “rando” mode, but I’ve mostly had it with a basket in 
>> front and R14 in the rear. Really can do pretty much everything, and so 
>> comfortably! 
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:17:00 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_3348.JPG]
>>> 14 years and 4 months old...best bike I've ever had.
>>> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 11:36:22 AM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>
 Paul, I have a A.H. Homer for spirted mixed-surface riding. But I 
 figured I would get a 2015 (new) Sam Hillborne  for my touring needs. It 
 is 
 a bit stouter and capable for riding fully loaded, sometimes on dirt. 
 Confidence-building off road, mainly rail trails. I have it set up with a 
 Nitto rear rack and a Rivendell HAR front rack. Two to four Ortlieb 
 panniers and a Sugarloaf basket bag will take me for 5-day unsupported 
 trips without worry..
 I love this bike as a dedicated tourer but often pull the rear rack for 
 local riding. I find the mustache bars with the 100mm stem allows for 
 "stretching out" on longer days in the saddle. 
 I'm outfitted with 35mm tires because of the VO fenders, which I find 
 very helpful for mid-Atlantic and mid-West multi-day touring. I'd love to 
 try it on the C&O Towpath with wider rubber, but would miss the comfort 
 that fenders give.
 Here's my "Tuxedo Sam":
 [image: IMG_8012.jpeg] 

 Also:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/53503542529/in/dateposted-public/

 Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.
 On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 1:24:03 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> Here are some pictures of my Hillborne, 2020 model in "Dark Gold" with 
> Cantilever bosses and the seatstay "socket" lug.
> I purchased the frame new through Golden Pliers here in PDX and built 
> it up myself, including wheels.
> Build notes:
> Wheels - Rear White Industries T11 hub, front SON Dyno hub, 32h laced 
> with Sapim butted spokes to Velocity Dyed rims, currently running 
> Panaracer 
> Pasela Protite 650b x 42 tires with silver Velo Orange Wavy fenders.
>
> Drivetrain - 2 x 9 with 170 Sugino XD2 triple crank with homemade 
> bashguard on outer ring, 38 x 24 middle/inner rings & 11-34 cassette, 
> shifted by Microshift thumbies,  Ultegra front and rear derailleurs 
> Jagwire 
> gold braided cable housing.
>
> Cockpit - Bosco bars and Nitto 130mm faceplate quill stem, harlequin 
> wrapped with orange and yellow Newbaums and a few coats of clear shellac. 
> Paul Components orange Love Levers pulling Paul Motolite brakes, ESI 
> silicone grips, Spurcycle limited-edition bell with orange striker.
>
> Racks & Bags - Wald 137 basket mounted to Nitto Mark's rack with 
> Marigold Outershell basketbag and limited edition Swift Industries/Camp 
> and 
> Go Slow Sideaddladdlebagkick stem pouch. Matching Zeitgeist saddlebag 
> supported by rear-mounted Nitto M18  rack.
>
> Flickr album here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmS7U2WY
>
> Mike M
>
> [image: IMG_1530.JPG][image: IMG_4661.jpg][image: IMG_5025.jpg]
>
>
>  
>
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:35:39 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas 
> wrote:
>
>> After seeing various Sam owners pictures here and there on various 
>> threads I thought I would start a thread dedicated to the versatile 
>> Sam's.
>>
>> Perhaps such a thread already exists?
>>
>> No worries if it does and perhaps someone could post a link if there 
>> is one out there.
>>
>> Here is my Sam with upright bars.
>>
>> I'm an older Riv owner , almost 74 and still love riding and working 
>> on bikes.
>>
>> I managed just over 2700 miles in 2023 ( not all on the Sam)
>>  and hope to top that in 2024 the Good Lord willing.
>>
>> My bars are the  Sunlite North Road alloy version.
>> ( They also have a steel version)
>> I like these North Roads so much I have them on multiple bikes 
>>
>> I have a very tall stem column , (forget the brand)
>> and a thread less stem, Origin8 I think.
>> I need the bars way up for the old back.
>> It

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-02-20 Thread Max S

Oooh... I really like the look and the idea of this one!.. How bit a 650b 
tire does it fit now? 

- Max "wish I had friends with acetylene torches" in A2

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-5 brianmark...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Here’s mine, I’ve had it for two years or so. 56cm double tt, got the 
> frame in this group, had a friend add canti bosses at 650b, and had it 
> painted at Bilenky cycles in Philly. My favorite bike aside from my cargo 
> bike, and I have to constantly convince myself it’s not the only bike I 
> need. Currently in “rando” mode, but I’ve mostly had it with a basket in 
> front and R14 in the rear. Really can do pretty much everything, and so 
> comfortably! 
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:17:00 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_3348.JPG]
>> 14 years and 4 months old...best bike I've ever had.
>> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 11:36:22 AM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> Paul, I have a A.H. Homer for spirted mixed-surface riding. But I 
>>> figured I would get a 2015 (new) Sam Hillborne  for my touring needs. It is 
>>> a bit stouter and capable for riding fully loaded, sometimes on dirt. 
>>> Confidence-building off road, mainly rail trails. I have it set up with a 
>>> Nitto rear rack and a Rivendell HAR front rack. Two to four Ortlieb 
>>> panniers and a Sugarloaf basket bag will take me for 5-day unsupported 
>>> trips without worry..
>>> I love this bike as a dedicated tourer but often pull the rear rack for 
>>> local riding. I find the mustache bars with the 100mm stem allows for 
>>> "stretching out" on longer days in the saddle. 
>>> I'm outfitted with 35mm tires because of the VO fenders, which I find 
>>> very helpful for mid-Atlantic and mid-West multi-day touring. I'd love to 
>>> try it on the C&O Towpath with wider rubber, but would miss the comfort 
>>> that fenders give.
>>> Here's my "Tuxedo Sam":
>>> [image: IMG_8012.jpeg] 
>>>
>>> Also:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/53503542529/in/dateposted-public/
>>>
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 1:24:03 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>>
 Here are some pictures of my Hillborne, 2020 model in "Dark Gold" with 
 Cantilever bosses and the seatstay "socket" lug.
 I purchased the frame new through Golden Pliers here in PDX and built 
 it up myself, including wheels.
 Build notes:
 Wheels - Rear White Industries T11 hub, front SON Dyno hub, 32h laced 
 with Sapim butted spokes to Velocity Dyed rims, currently running 
 Panaracer 
 Pasela Protite 650b x 42 tires with silver Velo Orange Wavy fenders.

 Drivetrain - 2 x 9 with 170 Sugino XD2 triple crank with homemade 
 bashguard on outer ring, 38 x 24 middle/inner rings & 11-34 cassette, 
 shifted by Microshift thumbies,  Ultegra front and rear derailleurs 
 Jagwire 
 gold braided cable housing.

 Cockpit - Bosco bars and Nitto 130mm faceplate quill stem, harlequin 
 wrapped with orange and yellow Newbaums and a few coats of clear shellac. 
 Paul Components orange Love Levers pulling Paul Motolite brakes, ESI 
 silicone grips, Spurcycle limited-edition bell with orange striker.

 Racks & Bags - Wald 137 basket mounted to Nitto Mark's rack with 
 Marigold Outershell basketbag and limited edition Swift Industries/Camp 
 and 
 Go Slow Sideaddladdlebagkick stem pouch. Matching Zeitgeist saddlebag 
 supported by rear-mounted Nitto M18  rack.

 Flickr album here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmS7U2WY

 Mike M

 [image: IMG_1530.JPG][image: IMG_4661.jpg][image: IMG_5025.jpg]


  

 On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:35:39 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas 
 wrote:

> After seeing various Sam owners pictures here and there on various 
> threads I thought I would start a thread dedicated to the versatile Sam's.
>
> Perhaps such a thread already exists?
>
> No worries if it does and perhaps someone could post a link if there 
> is one out there.
>
> Here is my Sam with upright bars.
>
> I'm an older Riv owner , almost 74 and still love riding and working 
> on bikes.
>
> I managed just over 2700 miles in 2023 ( not all on the Sam)
>  and hope to top that in 2024 the Good Lord willing.
>
> My bars are the  Sunlite North Road alloy version.
> ( They also have a steel version)
> I like these North Roads so much I have them on multiple bikes 
>
> I have a very tall stem column , (forget the brand)
> and a thread less stem, Origin8 I think.
> I need the bars way up for the old back.
> It works well for me and I've done up to 73 miles on it set up this 
> way.
>
> I have a triple crank (need the granny to get up hills).
>  I'm using the more 
> modern Dia Compe thumb shifters, 
> Shimano derailers, 
> Tektro 559 brake calipers, 
> Velocity Dya

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

2024-02-14 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY

The one that got away…
My first Riv, a 64, purchased after convincing myself I didn’t need a 68 
Bombadil for another grand and change. I loved it, I broke it, and was 
devastated. Happily, I got to talk to Richard Schwinn about getting it 
fixed!, which was awesome. And so it came back to me, better than new, but 
I sold it for a song to a nice fella who uses it a lot.(btw, I’d buy it 
back in a heartbeat!🤑)
Link to google album-
https://goo.gl/photos/XnXmgmEch5tkDNBQA 
-Kai

On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 1:35:39 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> After seeing various Sam owners pictures here and there on various threads 
> I thought I would start a thread dedicated to the versatile Sam's.
>
> Perhaps such a thread already exists?
>
> No worries if it does and perhaps someone could post a link if there is 
> one out there.
>
> Here is my Sam with upright bars.
>
> I'm an older Riv owner , almost 74 and still love riding and working on 
> bikes.
>
> I managed just over 2700 miles in 2023 ( not all on the Sam)
>  and hope to top that in 2024 the Good Lord willing.
>
> My bars are the  Sunlite North Road alloy version.
> ( They also have a steel version)
> I like these North Roads so much I have them on multiple bikes 
>
> I have a very tall stem column , (forget the brand)
> and a thread less stem, Origin8 I think.
> I need the bars way up for the old back.
> It works well for me and I've done up to 73 miles on it set up this way.
>
> I have a triple crank (need the granny to get up hills).
>  I'm using the more 
> modern Dia Compe thumb shifters, 
> Shimano derailers, 
> Tektro 559 brake calipers, 
> Velocity Dyad rims / Deore hubs wheelset and Soma Supple Vitesse EX tires 
> in a 700x42.
>
> I do recommend these tires as they are supple, seem to roll fast and 
> smooth and are relatively light for a tire this size at 380g's. No flats in 
> guessing 600 or so miles.
>
> The tan saddle is an Origin8 Comfort in about the same width as a B17. 
> It works well for me. I like the look and it's only about $40.
>
> I like working on bikes and built my Sam up myself.
>
> Safe riding to all.
>
> Paul in Dallas, TX area
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne at Paris Brest Paris

2023-09-28 Thread RichS

Hello Sean,

Another long time Hillborne owner here. I too enjoyed watching your PBP
video (and some of the others). Congratulations on doing PBP under the time
limit and getting your medal!!! In addition to be part of the "Hillborne
family" I'm from your neck of the woods but a little more east (close to
Syracuse). The Finger Lakes region will always be very special to me

Thanks again for your videos and kudos again on PBP and all your brevets:-)

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:27:42 AM UTC-4 Sean Keesler wrote:

Hey, that's me! ;)
Yes, it's my bike of choice for sure. I took it into the Adirondacks loaded
with a basket and rear panniers just before PBP for a week. It can do
almost anything I ask of it.
My others are a Bianchi from the 80s (that I sorta restored and take to
Florida in the winters) and a Fuji Sportif endurance bike that would also
have gotten the job done.
I don't make a big fuss about the bike when making these vignettes. There
are so many people talking about the tool that I figure I'll leave that to
them. It turns out a LOT of people also filmed their PBP adventure!

Sean

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 10:51:55 PM UTC-4 J wrote:

Trying to convince myself to start riding brevet I've been taking in all
the PBP 2023 suggestions from youtube the last few weeks and stumbled onto
video of a rider who finished the event on a double top tube Sam Hillborne.
Not a lot of footage of the bike in PBP vid but having a look at his other
videos, it appears to be his bike of choice.

For anyone who like me, just likes to watch people going on bike rides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33b4wPQXKkU&t=5004s&ab_channel=SeanKeesler

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne at Paris Brest Paris

2023-09-27 Thread Sean Keesler

Hey, that's me! ;)
Yes, it's my bike of choice for sure. I took it into the Adirondacks loaded 
with a basket and rear panniers just before PBP for a week. It can do 
almost anything I ask of it. 
My others are a Bianchi from the 80s (that I sorta restored and take to 
Florida in the winters) and a Fuji Sportif endurance bike that would also 
have gotten the job done.
I don't make a big fuss about the bike when making these vignettes. There 
are so many people talking about the tool that I figure I'll leave that to 
them. It turns out a LOT of people also filmed their PBP adventure!

Sean

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 10:51:55 PM UTC-4 J wrote:

> Trying to convince myself to start riding brevet I've been taking in all 
> the PBP 2023  suggestions from youtube the last few weeks and stumbled onto 
> video of a rider who finished the event on a double top tube Sam Hillborne. 
> Not a lot of footage of the bike in PBP vid but having a look at his other 
> videos, it appears to be his bike of choice.
>
>  For anyone who like me, just likes to watch people going on bike rides. 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33b4wPQXKkU&t=5004s&ab_channel=SeanKeesler
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne on Offer Up

2023-05-03 Thread Joe Bernard

I'd jump on this of it wasn't massively too big for me. Love that Vintage 
Porsche Green which Riv inexplicably never repeated, and I happen to like 
the solid color/not cream headtube. That was a mistake on this batch of 
frames. 

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 6:32:44 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> Check out this item on Sacramento OfferUp. https://offerup.co/R3sSvKpWvzb
>
> Just saw this, price is $1500, no affiliation (hope the link works)
>
> Screenshot for reference.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

2023-04-15 Thread Ryan

That's a smashing looking build and I love the black and white photos. Also 
nice homage to those two priests riding their bikes.If you were going for 
classic and timeless, I'd say you nailed it.

On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 6:46:46 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:

> V.1 of my new Sam Build. 
> There are many like it, but this one is mine.
> Thought you guys might get a kick out of some photos:
>
>  [image: Edit-000317890012.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890013.jpg]
> [image: Edit-000317890011.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890001.jpg] 
> [image: Edit-000317890007.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890006.jpg]
>
> Taking these, I finished off a roll that I thought was color, but wasn't, 
> so here are few B&Ws cuz they exist:
>
> [image: Edit-000209690033.jpg] [image: Edit-000209690035.jpg]
>  [image: Edit-000209690036.jpg] [image: Edit-000209690034.jpg]
>
> This bike is an absolute hoot! 
> I've been loving it.
> Thanks to so many in the owners bunch for all the inspiration and 
> information.
>
> Any Los Angeles Riv-Riders out there want to go for a spin?
> k.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

2023-04-14 Thread Keith Paugh

Excited to see how your Maine Silver turns out.Send an email when next in Los Angeles. We’ll go ride!k.On Apr 14, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Ted Durant  wrote:And it begins again. I said I was thinking about building 1 olive and 1 silver, so I could have 1 of each at my daughters' homes in LA and Maine. That 51cm silver frame that was listed a few days ago is now hanging on the wall, waiting for parts. I feel a little bad "hoarding" Sams, but it's the PERFECT bike for riding in both places, so...I think the aesthetics will be more low key than my lime olive one.Ted Durant



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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

2023-03-29 Thread Eric Marth

This looks great, Keith! I love the subtle colors, the silver frame, the 
tans and browns. Timeless and clean. I wish the pics were bigger! 

Are those Billie bars? Been missing mine lately (still got em, just not 
installed). 

On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:46:46 PM UTC-4 Keith P. wrote:

> V.1 of my new Sam Build. 
> There are many like it, but this one is mine.
> Thought you guys might get a kick out of some photos:
>
>  [image: Edit-000317890012.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890013.jpg]
> [image: Edit-000317890011.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890001.jpg] 
> [image: Edit-000317890007.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890006.jpg]
>
> Taking these, I finished off a roll that I thought was color, but wasn't, 
> so here are few B&Ws cuz they exist:
>
> [image: Edit-000209690033.jpg] [image: Edit-000209690035.jpg]
>  [image: Edit-000209690036.jpg] [image: Edit-000209690034.jpg]
>
> This bike is an absolute hoot! 
> I've been loving it.
> Thanks to so many in the owners bunch for all the inspiration and 
> information.
>
> Any Los Angeles Riv-Riders out there want to go for a spin?
> k.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

2023-03-13 Thread Eric White

As a fellow zip-tie dynamo light routing enthusiast, I can say I didn't
even notice them while gazing at the bike. The cable routing? Elegant and
graceful. The front bag? A nice blend of modern and classic. The zip ties?
What zip ties?


On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 3:19 PM Ted Durant  wrote:

> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 6:12:32 AM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
> aware this is not the same color, and it might be even more different in
> person, those black zip ties ALL over the downtube ruin the paint for me. i
> think my bike has two (top and bottom) and it does the job well enough.
>
>
> They don't bother me that much, and I prefer not to have saggy wiring. I
> thought Cub House did a good job of lining them up with the decal ends,
> making them less obtrusive. My plan is to replace zip ties with twine
> eventually.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
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