Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

Excellent kit and you look amazing. I love the bike style posts and am so tickled every time I get one!Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 19, 2023, at 9:29 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:Today's cool but not too cold ride was with Randi Jo wool cap, wool button up from Anian, and the buckskin gloves that Ron & Arya brand and resell - which, for the record, are awesome! All of this kit is excellent - warm and pretty water resistant as well. On Sunday, 5 November 2023 at 12:48:30 UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:I'll try to remember to take a photo of the knickers (not of me) when it's next cold enough to wear them. They are very, very comfortable and nice looking.Balmy upper 60s on today's ride home wearing my new (to me) bright green Cheviot cap while riding a forest green Matthews.On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 10:20 AM RichS  wrote:Patrick,+1 on your church going cycling attire. The description is vivid enough so I can clearly see it. Your warm weather sartorial choices are impressive as well.I need to up my game and enhance my decade old Rivendell knickers. Thanks for the inspiration:-)Best,Rich in ATL  On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:28:12 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:I broke out my oh, so elegant! grey flannel cycling knickers* last Sunday for the ride to church, matched with Rick's (Reisemberg) medium-dark grey knee socks and a charcoal grey merino mock turtleneck pullover under a navy Wabi Woolen LS jersey cunningly made into a light cycling jacket with the (very professional) addition of a full-length zipper. Shoes should have been Dromartis, but I use plain black canvas Specialized SPD shoes because they have a wide toe box and a flat bottom, better for standing during 2+ hour liturgies. Topped off with ironically-retro, deliberately jarring green-and-red Legnano cycling cap; not quite cold enough for ear flaps. Only 1 person did a double take at the knickers.Must take a fashion shot.But temps have risen almost 20* this week, so it looks like I'll be back to the light nylon REI roll-up-legs-and-snap-in-place pants and cotton collared shirt this Sunday.Much more casually, this afternoon, temp about 72* with moderate wind, wore a blue and white wool ss jersey with Italian lycra arm warmers over black Rapha Randonee shorts. Black ankle socks with catchy "Route 66" graphic and late 1980s/1990s Shimano 3-strap SPD shoes and custom cycling cap from Little Packet, no longer in business.* Very tastefully converted from a very nice pair of Nordstrom wool dress flannels with nylon wind panels on inside front and replaceable matched-color wear panel on seat and crotch.I have to say: I've spent considerable bucks on very many supposedly purpose-designed riding pants, knickers and long pants, and I have never had a pair of cycling pants that fit as well and are so well adapted to pedaling as converted dress pants, with the high waist and roomy -- not baggy; not 1950s -- cut. They come up high enough in back that you don't have that continual exposed skin anxiety, and they just feel much more comfortable. So many knickers and pants designed for cycling, so they say, are simply cut too low in the back and just feel uncomfortable, and I'm very trim. I've owned I think 4 pairs of dress-pant conversion cycling knickers and I wish I'd not sold 2 of the other 3 pairs. Patrick "not quite as serious as you might think" MooreOn Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 4:17 PM DavidP  wrote:Another knickers fan for spring/fall riding. My outfit today was perfect for the cool, crisp temps and reasonably coordinated (merino sweater, Zoic Reign knickers, Vans checkerboard socks).



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Patrick Moore]

I'll try to remember to take a photo of the knickers (not of me) when it's
next cold enough to wear them. They are very, very comfortable and nice
looking.

Balmy upper 60s on today's ride home wearing my new (to me) bright green
Cheviot cap while riding a forest green Matthews.

On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 10:20 AM RichS  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> +1 on your church going cycling attire. The description is vivid enough so
> I can clearly see it. Your warm weather sartorial choices are impressive as
> well.
> I need to up my game and enhance my decade old Rivendell knickers. Thanks
> for the inspiration:-)
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
>
> On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:28:12 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I broke out my oh, so elegant! grey flannel cycling knickers* last Sunday
>> for the ride to church, matched with Rick's (Reisemberg) medium-dark grey
>> knee socks and a charcoal grey merino mock turtleneck pullover under a navy
>> Wabi Woolen LS jersey cunningly made into a light cycling jacket with the
>> (very professional) addition of a full-length zipper. Shoes should have
>> been Dromartis, but I use plain black canvas Specialized SPD shoes because
>> they have a wide toe box and a flat bottom, better for standing during 2+
>> hour liturgies. Topped off with ironically-retro, deliberately jarring
>> green-and-red Legnano cycling cap; not quite cold enough for ear flaps.
>>
>> Only 1 person did a double take at the knickers.
>>
>> Must take a fashion shot.
>>
>> But temps have risen almost 20* this week, so it looks like I'll be back
>> to the light nylon REI roll-up-legs-and-snap-in-place pants and cotton
>> collared shirt this Sunday.
>>
>> Much more casually, this afternoon, temp about 72* with moderate wind,
>> wore a blue and white wool ss jersey with Italian lycra arm warmers over
>> black Rapha Randonee shorts. Black ankle socks with catchy "Route 66"
>> graphic and late 1980s/1990s Shimano 3-strap SPD shoes and custom cycling
>> cap from Little Packet, no longer in business.
>>
>> * Very tastefully converted from a very nice pair of Nordstrom wool dress
>> flannels with nylon wind panels on inside front and replaceable
>> matched-color wear panel on seat and crotch.
>>
>> I have to say: I've spent considerable bucks on very many supposedly
>> purpose-designed riding pants, knickers and long pants, and I have never
>> had a pair of cycling pants that fit as well and are so well adapted to
>> pedaling as converted dress pants, with the high waist and roomy -- not
>> baggy; not 1950s -- cut. They come up high enough in back that you don't
>> have that continual exposed skin anxiety, and they just feel much more
>> comfortable. So many knickers and pants designed for cycling, so they say,
>> are simply cut too low in the back and just feel uncomfortable, and I'm
>> very trim. I've owned I think 4 pairs of dress-pant conversion cycling
>> knickers and I wish I'd not sold 2 of the other 3 pairs.
>>
>> Patrick "not quite as serious as you might think" Moore
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 4:17 PM DavidP  wrote:
>>
>>> Another knickers fan for spring/fall riding. My outfit today was perfect
>>> for the cool, crisp temps and reasonably coordinated (merino sweater, Zoic
>>> Reign knickers, Vans checkerboard socks).
>>>
>>> [image: GR001-4893_maple-ridge-1800.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[RichS]

Patrick,

+1 on your church going cycling attire. The description is vivid enough so 
I can clearly see it. Your warm weather sartorial choices are impressive as 
well.
I need to up my game and enhance my decade old Rivendell knickers. Thanks 
for the inspiration:-)

Best,
Rich in ATL 
 

On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:28:12 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I broke out my oh, so elegant! grey flannel cycling knickers* last Sunday 
> for the ride to church, matched with Rick's (Reisemberg) medium-dark grey 
> knee socks and a charcoal grey merino mock turtleneck pullover under a navy 
> Wabi Woolen LS jersey cunningly made into a light cycling jacket with the 
> (very professional) addition of a full-length zipper. Shoes should have 
> been Dromartis, but I use plain black canvas Specialized SPD shoes because 
> they have a wide toe box and a flat bottom, better for standing during 2+ 
> hour liturgies. Topped off with ironically-retro, deliberately jarring 
> green-and-red Legnano cycling cap; not quite cold enough for ear flaps. 
>
> Only 1 person did a double take at the knickers.
>
> Must take a fashion shot.
>
> But temps have risen almost 20* this week, so it looks like I'll be back 
> to the light nylon REI roll-up-legs-and-snap-in-place pants and cotton 
> collared shirt this Sunday.
>
> Much more casually, this afternoon, temp about 72* with moderate wind, 
> wore a blue and white wool ss jersey with Italian lycra arm warmers over 
> black Rapha Randonee shorts. Black ankle socks with catchy "Route 66" 
> graphic and late 1980s/1990s Shimano 3-strap SPD shoes and custom cycling 
> cap from Little Packet, no longer in business.
>
> * Very tastefully converted from a very nice pair of Nordstrom wool dress 
> flannels with nylon wind panels on inside front and replaceable 
> matched-color wear panel on seat and crotch.
>
> I have to say: I've spent considerable bucks on very many supposedly 
> purpose-designed riding pants, knickers and long pants, and I have never 
> had a pair of cycling pants that fit as well and are so well adapted to 
> pedaling as converted dress pants, with the high waist and roomy -- not 
> baggy; not 1950s -- cut. They come up high enough in back that you don't 
> have that continual exposed skin anxiety, and they just feel much more 
> comfortable. So many knickers and pants designed for cycling, so they say, 
> are simply cut too low in the back and just feel uncomfortable, and I'm 
> very trim. I've owned I think 4 pairs of dress-pant conversion cycling 
> knickers and I wish I'd not sold 2 of the other 3 pairs. 
>
> Patrick "not quite as serious as you might think" Moore
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 4:17 PM DavidP  wrote:
>
>> Another knickers fan for spring/fall riding. My outfit today was perfect 
>> for the cool, crisp temps and reasonably coordinated (merino sweater, Zoic 
>> Reign knickers, Vans checkerboard socks).
>>
>> [image: GR001-4893_maple-ridge-1800.jpg]
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Patrick Moore]

Fashion (well, *civilian* fashion) left me behind long ago; I forget that
current men's dress pants are cut very tight and low. No, my pants are all
dad pants from 20+ years ago; I guess that makes them grandad pants.



On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 11:17 PM Keith Paugh  wrote:

> ... I wouldn’t think they’d rise high enough in back as you describe.
>
> k.
>
> On Nov 3, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> ... I have never had a pair of cycling pants that fit as well and are so
> well adapted to pedaling as converted dress pants, with the high waist and
> roomy -- not baggy; not 1950s -- cut. They come up high enough in back
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Keith Paugh]

“Must take a fashion shot.”I should say so!I wouldn’t think they’d rise high enough in back as you describe. k.On Nov 3, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:I broke out my oh, so elegant! grey flannel cycling knickers* last Sunday for the ride to church, matched with Rick's (Reisemberg) medium-dark grey knee socks and a charcoal grey merino mock turtleneck pullover under a navy Wabi Woolen LS jersey cunningly made into a light cycling jacket with the (very professional) addition of a full-length zipper. Shoes should have been Dromartis, but I use plain black canvas Specialized SPD shoes because they have a wide toe box and a flat bottom, better for standing during 2+ hour liturgies. Topped off with ironically-retro, deliberately jarring green-and-red Legnano cycling cap; not quite cold enough for ear flaps. Only 1 person did a double take at the knickers.Must take a fashion shot.But temps have risen almost 20* this week, so it looks like I'll be back to the light nylon REI roll-up-legs-and-snap-in-place pants and cotton collared shirt this Sunday.Much more casually, this afternoon, temp about 72* with moderate wind, wore a blue and white wool ss jersey with Italian lycra arm warmers over black Rapha Randonee shorts. Black ankle socks with catchy "Route 66" graphic and late 1980s/1990s Shimano 3-strap SPD shoes and custom cycling cap from Little Packet, no longer in business.* Very tastefully converted from a very nice pair of Nordstrom wool dress flannels with nylon wind panels on inside front and replaceable matched-color wear panel on seat and crotch.I have to say: I've spent considerable bucks on very many supposedly purpose-designed riding pants, knickers and long pants, and I have never had a pair of cycling pants that fit as well and are so well adapted to pedaling as converted dress pants, with the high waist and roomy -- not baggy; not 1950s -- cut. They come up high enough in back that you don't have that continual exposed skin anxiety, and they just feel much more comfortable. So many knickers and pants designed for cycling, so they say, are simply cut too low in the back and just feel uncomfortable, and I'm very trim. I've owned I think 4 pairs of dress-pant conversion cycling knickers and I wish I'd not sold 2 of the other 3 pairs. Patrick "not quite as serious as you might think" MooreOn Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 4:17 PM DavidP  wrote:Another knickers fan for spring/fall riding. My outfit today was perfect for the cool, crisp temps and reasonably coordinated (merino sweater, Zoic Reign knickers, Vans checkerboard socks).



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Piaw Na]

I like capris for winter riding in the Bay Area (too hot for the other 3 
seasons). I too, first found them in Europe, but earlier this year I 
discovered that the Germans call them 3/4 
pants: https://blog.piaw.net/2023/01/mens-carpis.html


On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 1:43:10 PM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was in Portugal in May and got a pair of these capri-length 
> shorts/knickers at Decathlon.
> https://www.decathlon.fr/p/bermuda-de-randonnee-nh500-homme/_/R-p-332747
>
> Now, I've always loved the "longer than shorts, shorter than pants" 
> clothing. But sometimes people are less friendly to dudes who wear capris. 
> Luckily, when I tried them on my wife thought that I looked super cute. So 
> those short pants became the hit of the summer. They are by far my best 
> short/pants for casual bike riding. They are my best non-lycra pant. I 
> should have bought 4 of 'em. Next time I'm gonna stock up.
>
> Ben
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 2:14:23 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Awesome. Perfect fall outfit, and very reminiscent of our 90s days (like 
>> a polished grunge?) - bring it back! Also love the pants, a little bit of 
>> stretch is so great for riding. And your Sam is dressed in similar fashion 
>> and just looks like it goes with your ‘fit. Thanks for posting; I get no 
>> small amount of delight from these Bike Style posts!
>> L
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2023, at 10:46 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> I am not particularly stylish, but my cool but dry autumn day kit is 
>> extremely Vancouverite: 
>>
>>
>> - Du/er stretchy slim fit jeans
>> - Patagonia flannel shirt (absolutely the best quality flannel shirt I've 
>> ever touched) 
>> - Vessi waterproof sneakers 
>> - Arcteryx thin merino gloves (not pictured) 
>>
>> I neglected to wear a cap today, so style points lost there. My helmet is 
>> just an old MTB hand-me-down .. I need to refresh that. 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> As it gets colder, I'll pull out the Randi Jo over-the-ear wool cap and 
>> wear the Ronnie leather gloves I recently purchased. 
>>
>> On Monday, 2 October 2023 at 19:18:28 UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> It's like my foot changed in the last year or two... All the shoes in 
>>> the sizes I used to be able to wear no longer fit, and that goes for bike 
>>> shoes, formal shoes, casual shoes... Bought a pair of those VeloSambas – in 
>>> BLUE SUEDE, and TWO sizes larger than I used to wear, which now somehow 
>>> fits – and am about to try them out on the bike. 
>>>
>>> - Max "if the shoe fits, wear it" in A2 
>>>
>>> [image: best foot forward.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 7:02:32 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Max - I love the shoes. If those didn’t work out, you’ll grace us with 
 a photo on the bike of their replacements, I just know it.

 Luke - so good. Black on black with all the accessories (“cuz men gotta 
 have their accessories”), looking fit and content on that Atlantis with 
 the 
 rainbow top tube. Love it. 
 Goal: Find you a bike style photographer like Luke’s. 

 On Oct 2, 2023, at 12:52 AM, Luke Hendrickson  
 wrote:

 

 


 On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:27:02 PM UTC-7 J wrote:

> That Coppi chest pocket shirt above was remade by Ostroy 
> https://ostroy.com/products/mesh-resort-shirt-with-front-buttons-pocket
>
>
> On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:41:19 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Love that you match your bike so well.  Great style for your bike and 
>> you!  You are a well-matched pair.
>>
>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay...I'll risk the catcalls and cheap jokes - here's a glamour pic 
>>> of my stylish riding kit. I say "function first & to each their own". 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1918.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold 
 indeed! I must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and 
 wish I 
 still had it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though 
 along 
 with the mullet haircut.
 Doug

 On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien 
 wrote:

> *where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionality
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 
>> 80's. Hip to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to 
>> make a 
>> comeback but 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)
>>
>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle 
>> Ding Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> Gosh, 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Ben Adrian]

I was in Portugal in May and got a pair of these capri-length 
shorts/knickers at Decathlon.
https://www.decathlon.fr/p/bermuda-de-randonnee-nh500-homme/_/R-p-332747

Now, I've always loved the "longer than shorts, shorter than pants" 
clothing. But sometimes people are less friendly to dudes who wear capris. 
Luckily, when I tried them on my wife thought that I looked super cute. So 
those short pants became the hit of the summer. They are by far my best 
short/pants for casual bike riding. They are my best non-lycra pant. I 
should have bought 4 of 'em. Next time I'm gonna stock up.

Ben

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 2:14:23 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Awesome. Perfect fall outfit, and very reminiscent of our 90s days (like a 
> polished grunge?) - bring it back! Also love the pants, a little bit of 
> stretch is so great for riding. And your Sam is dressed in similar fashion 
> and just looks like it goes with your ‘fit. Thanks for posting; I get no 
> small amount of delight from these Bike Style posts!
> L
>
> On Oct 3, 2023, at 10:46 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> I am not particularly stylish, but my cool but dry autumn day kit is 
> extremely Vancouverite: 
>
>
> - Du/er stretchy slim fit jeans
> - Patagonia flannel shirt (absolutely the best quality flannel shirt I've 
> ever touched) 
> - Vessi waterproof sneakers 
> - Arcteryx thin merino gloves (not pictured) 
>
> I neglected to wear a cap today, so style points lost there. My helmet is 
> just an old MTB hand-me-down .. I need to refresh that. 
>
> 
>
>
> As it gets colder, I'll pull out the Randi Jo over-the-ear wool cap and 
> wear the Ronnie leather gloves I recently purchased. 
>
> On Monday, 2 October 2023 at 19:18:28 UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>
>> It's like my foot changed in the last year or two... All the shoes in the 
>> sizes I used to be able to wear no longer fit, and that goes for bike 
>> shoes, formal shoes, casual shoes... Bought a pair of those VeloSambas – in 
>> BLUE SUEDE, and TWO sizes larger than I used to wear, which now somehow 
>> fits – and am about to try them out on the bike. 
>>
>> - Max "if the shoe fits, wear it" in A2 
>>
>> [image: best foot forward.jpg]
>>
>> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 7:02:32 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Max - I love the shoes. If those didn’t work out, you’ll grace us with a 
>>> photo on the bike of their replacements, I just know it.
>>>
>>> Luke - so good. Black on black with all the accessories (“cuz men gotta 
>>> have their accessories”), looking fit and content on that Atlantis with the 
>>> rainbow top tube. Love it. 
>>> Goal: Find you a bike style photographer like Luke’s. 
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2023, at 12:52 AM, Luke Hendrickson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:27:02 PM UTC-7 J wrote:
>>>
 That Coppi chest pocket shirt above was remade by Ostroy 
 https://ostroy.com/products/mesh-resort-shirt-with-front-buttons-pocket


 On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:41:19 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Love that you match your bike so well.  Great style for your bike and 
> you!  You are a well-matched pair.
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Okay...I'll risk the catcalls and cheap jokes - here's a glamour pic 
>> of my stylish riding kit. I say "function first & to each their own". 
>>
>> [image: IMG_1918.jpeg]
>>
>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold 
>>> indeed! I must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and wish 
>>> I 
>>> still had it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though along 
>>> with the mullet haircut.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 *where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionality

 On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien 
 wrote:

> I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 
> 80's. Hip to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make 
> a 
> comeback but 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle 
> Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> 
>> Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a 
>> car. So, so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but 
>> wow, I 
>> can see how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the 
>> Cheviot? And its still in working order? 
>>
>> I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class 
>> of ‘99 - here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had 
>> already 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

Awesome. Perfect fall outfit, and very reminiscent of our 90s days (like a polished grunge?) - bring it back! Also love the pants, a little bit of stretch is so great for riding. And your Sam is dressed in similar fashion and just looks like it goes with your ‘fit. Thanks for posting; I get no small amount of delight from these Bike Style posts!LOn Oct 3, 2023, at 10:46 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:I am not particularly stylish, but my cool but dry autumn day kit is extremely Vancouverite: - Du/er stretchy slim fit jeans- Patagonia flannel shirt (absolutely the best quality flannel shirt I've ever touched) - Vessi waterproof sneakers - Arcteryx thin merino gloves (not pictured) I neglected to wear a cap today, so style points lost there. My helmet is just an old MTB hand-me-down .. I need to refresh that. As it gets colder, I'll pull out the Randi Jo over-the-ear wool cap and wear the Ronnie leather gloves I recently purchased. On Monday, 2 October 2023 at 19:18:28 UTC-7 Max S wrote:It's like my foot changed in the last year or two... All the shoes in the sizes I used to be able to wear no longer fit, and that goes for bike shoes, formal shoes, casual shoes... Bought a pair of those VeloSambas – in BLUE SUEDE, and TWO sizes larger than I used to wear, which now somehow fits – and am about to try them out on the bike. - Max "if the shoe fits, wear it" in A2 On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 7:02:32 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Max - I love the shoes. If those didn’t work out, you’ll grace us with a photo on the bike of their replacements, I just know it.Luke - so good. Black on black with all the accessories (“cuz men gotta have their accessories”), looking fit and content on that Atlantis with the rainbow top tube. Love it. Goal: Find you a bike style photographer like Luke’s. On Oct 2, 2023, at 12:52 AM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:27:02 PM UTC-7 J wrote:That Coppi chest pocket shirt above was remade by Ostroy https://ostroy.com/products/mesh-resort-shirt-with-front-buttons-pocketOn Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:41:19 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:Love that you match your bike so well.  Great style for your bike and you!  You are a well-matched pair.On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:Okay...I'll risk the catcalls and cheap jokes - here's a glamour pic of my stylish riding kit. I say "function first & to each their own". On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold indeed! I must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and wish I still had it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though along with the mullet haircut.DougOn Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:*where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionalityOn Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 80's. Hip to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make a comeback but 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. So, so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I can see how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? And its still in working order? I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class of ‘99 - here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had already been there done that!Dorothy, I did not know that you sew your own clothes, but that elevates you to an even higher status now that I do!Emily, yes, we are the same age! I love your ideas and will try the more aggressive folding. But I would love to see your wide-leg styles since I’m just getting into them.You RivSisters should definitely send us some bike style portraits. Don’t leave Luke and I hanging out here by ourselves!Off to work. Hope to see more in this thread when I get off at 2:30.LOn Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  wrote:Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain having recently greased up the leg of my new so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them nearly every ride to work.For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg and fold on the wide 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

Max - I love the shoes. If those didn’t work out, you’ll grace us with a photo on the bike of their replacements, I just know it.Luke - so good. Black on black with all the accessories (“cuz men gotta have their accessories”), looking fit and content on that Atlantis with the rainbow top tube. Love it. Goal: Find you a bike style photographer like Luke’s. On Oct 2, 2023, at 12:52 AM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:27:02 PM UTC-7 J wrote:That Coppi chest pocket shirt above was remade by Ostroy https://ostroy.com/products/mesh-resort-shirt-with-front-buttons-pocketOn Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:41:19 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:Love that you match your bike so well.  Great style for your bike and you!  You are a well-matched pair.On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:Okay...I'll risk the catcalls and cheap jokes - here's a glamour pic of my stylish riding kit. I say "function first & to each their own". On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold indeed! I must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and wish I still had it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though along with the mullet haircut.DougOn Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:*where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionalityOn Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 80's. Hip to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make a comeback but 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. So, so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I can see how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? And its still in working order? I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class of ‘99 - here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had already been there done that!Dorothy, I did not know that you sew your own clothes, but that elevates you to an even higher status now that I do!Emily, yes, we are the same age! I love your ideas and will try the more aggressive folding. But I would love to see your wide-leg styles since I’m just getting into them.You RivSisters should definitely send us some bike style portraits. Don’t leave Luke and I hanging out here by ourselves!Off to work. Hope to see more in this thread when I get off at 2:30.LOn Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  wrote:Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain having recently greased up the leg of my new so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them nearly every ride to work.For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and photos coming! DanielleOn Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go to is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true waist and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals very, very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I live that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have riding specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or any other 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Pam Bikes]

Love that you match your bike so well.  Great style for your bike and you!  
You are a well-matched pair.

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Okay...I'll risk the catcalls and cheap jokes - here's a glamour pic of my 
> stylish riding kit. I say "function first & to each their own". 
>
> [image: IMG_1918.jpeg]
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold indeed! 
>> I must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and wish I still had 
>> it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though along with the 
>> mullet haircut.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> *where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionality
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 80's. 
 Hip to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make a comeback 
 but 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)

 On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> 
> Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. 
> So, so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I 
> can 
> see how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? 
> And its still in working order? 
>
> I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class of ‘99 
> - here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had already 
> been 
> there done that!
>
> Dorothy, I did not know that you sew your own clothes, but that 
> elevates you to an even higher status now that I do!
>
> Emily, yes, we are the same age! I love your ideas and will try the 
> more aggressive folding. But I would love to see your wide-leg styles 
> since 
> I’m just getting into them.
>
> You RivSisters should definitely send us some bike style portraits. 
> Don’t leave Luke and I hanging out here by ourselves!
>
> Off to work. Hope to see more in this thread when I get off at 2:30.
> L
>
> On Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  
> wrote:
>
> Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold 
> (and the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel 
> your 
> pain having recently greased up the leg of my new 
> so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.
>
> I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather 
> I love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on 
> the 
> Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden 
> clogs 
> and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was 
> hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed 
> to 
> pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them 
> nearly every ride to work.
>
> For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good 
> peg and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. 
> Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and 
> photos coming! 
>
> Danielle
>
> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I 
>> love these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made 
>> very 
>> specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the 
>> JMMs 
>> all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  
>>
>> You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. 
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My 
>> go to is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my 
>> true 
>> waist and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat 
>> pedals 
>> very, very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. 
>> I 
>> live that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have 
>> riding specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of 
>> my 
>> jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some 
>>> elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it 
>>> by 
>>> the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can 
>>> get 
>>> creative and wrap 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Bill Lindsay]

Peter Adler said: "In my case, stripping off the two Ortlieb PVC rolltop 
panniers with their ever-present load (2x Kryptonite New Yorks and about 15 
lbs of accidentally hoarded tools/snacks/raingear/bungies/emergency 
glucose-boosting sodas etc.) drops the weight of my daily rider by at least 
30 pounds. By your (presumably sarcastic) formula, that's 2.5 MPH faster 
right there."

I was not being sarcastic at all.  Everybody knows a lighter bike is faster 
(all else being equal).  Many of us mathy types want to know how much bang 
for the buck one gets.  Several different people have done the math, and 1 
mile per hour for every 12 pounds is in the ballpark of what these various 
modeling tools quantify.  Use the googler to test drive some of them, if 
you feel so inclined.  

In your case, a 30 pound reduction by dropping your Ortliebs would probably 
be even more than 2.5 mph, because you are also reducing your wind drag 
part.  You'd be way faster.  Maybe 3mph faster.  That's a lot.  

I get it that participants on these boards don't like these calculations, 
but their reasons for not liking it are all over the map.  

-Some math haters don't like it when people make calculations that they 
can't comprehend. "Pull out the slide rule all you like, if you actually 
ride a bike you can feel it"
-Some math lovers like to diss whatever model because it is incomplete in 
some way "Well actually, what about the surface roughness of the road? 
 What if the stripe was recently painted?  What about tree sap?  Have you 
ever ridden over tree sap?  That sticky sound?  Where's that in your model, 
huh?"
-Some want the pounds per mile per hour to be less, so their heavy bike 
carries less of a penalty
-Some want the pounds per mile per hour to be greater, so they have some 
objective reason to support why they just dropped $300 on a new rear 
derailleur that is 45 grams lighter.

The fact is lighter bikes are faster.  The fact is, if every bike had a 
gravity knob, most people would turn it down to feel how fast a light bike 
feels.  Among those who know and acknowledge that a lighter bike is only a 
small amount faster will still prefer a lighter bike.  Some (like Jan for 
instance) prefers to gram shave when possible for two reasons: 1. because 
it's more fun to "throw a light bike around", and 2. because it's just 
good-practice to not carry unnecessary weight if it can be avoided.  Jan 
knows bike weight doesn't make you much faster, but still chooses to gram 
shave when it's practical.  

Sorry about the fashion tangent.  Light bikes can be very fashionable.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 1:19:41 AM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> In my case, stripping off the two Ortlieb PVC rolltop panniers with their 
> ever-present load (2x Kryptonite New Yorks and about 15 lbs of accidentally 
> hoarded tools/snacks/raingear/bungies/emergency glucose-boosting sodas 
> etc.) drops the weight of my daily rider by at least 30 pounds. By your 
> (presumably sarcastic) formula, that's 2.5 MPH faster right there.
>
> And when I switch to a bike that's a scoshe smaller, with no 
> racks/lights/generators and lighter tubing/components/rims/tires to get 
> down to the low 20-pound range, that's when the benefits of putting 90%+ of 
> your miles on a 55 pound RV of a bike really shows up.
>
> Even though I realize these numbers in theory, it's always a surprise to 
> me how much faster I am on the gofast bikes. Maybe I'm unteachable, or lack 
> object persistence or something.
>
> Thread relevance: Merino tops, jeans/chinos, Ankle Biter leg straps, 
> almost all day almost every day. My old leather straps (Selle An-Atomica 
> used to throw in a pair of matching leather leg straps when you ordered a 
> saddle, if you told them you commuted on a bike) of I can't find the Ankle 
> Biters; they're ancient, the velcro patches are coming loose, and no glue 
> I've tried seems to hold them down.
>
> Peter Adler
> Berkeley, the geographically smaller but demographically larger CA
>
> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:04:17 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> "You get way faster when your bike gets lighter."
>
> Proven fact.  If you want to go 1 mile per hour faster, all you have to do 
> is make your bike 12 pounds lighter.  This is known.  
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Peter Adler]

In my case, stripping off the two Ortlieb PVC rolltop panniers with their 
ever-present load (2x Kryptonite New Yorks and about 15 lbs of accidentally 
hoarded tools/snacks/raingear/bungies/emergency glucose-boosting sodas 
etc.) drops the weight of my daily rider by at least 30 pounds. By your 
(presumably sarcastic) formula, that's 2.5 MPH faster right there.

And when I switch to a bike that's a scoshe smaller, with no 
racks/lights/generators and lighter tubing/components/rims/tires to get 
down to the low 20-pound range, that's when the benefits of putting 90%+ of 
your miles on a 55 pound RV of a bike really shows up.

Even though I realize these numbers in theory, it's always a surprise to me 
how much faster I am on the gofast bikes. Maybe I'm unteachable, or lack 
object persistence or something.

Thread relevance: Merino tops, jeans/chinos, Ankle Biter leg straps, almost 
all day almost every day. My old leather straps (Selle An-Atomica used to 
throw in a pair of matching leather leg straps when you ordered a saddle, 
if you told them you commuted on a bike) of I can't find the Ankle Biters; 
they're ancient, the velcro patches are coming loose, and no glue I've 
tried seems to hold them down.

Peter Adler
Berkeley, the geographically smaller but demographically larger CA

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:04:17 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

"You get way faster when your bike gets lighter."

Proven fact.  If you want to go 1 mile per hour faster, all you have to do 
is make your bike 12 pounds lighter.  This is known.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Ted Durant]

On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 5:13:02 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote: 

I love that jersey and your shades. 

Oops, missed the shades ... should have to do this fashion mag style ...
Glasses by Tifosi Optics. 
(I love Tifosi ... relatively inexpensive, durable, and reader lenses for 
the interchangeable style I like.)

Tell me why Bombas and not Smartwool. I’ve never tried Bombas - should I?

Smartwools never wore well, and would shrink up and the tightness in the 
forefoot aggravated my bunionettes. I also spent time in Darn Tough socks 
... better than Smartwool, but Bombas are softer, looser knit, and the 
forefoot stays reasonably loose. Lately I've also been trying and liking 
Injinji socks with separate toes,  which are really good for keeping my 
forefoot from being overly constricted.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

Ted, you look wonderful! I love that jersey and your shades. Tell me why Bombas and not Smartwool. I’ve never tried Bombas - should I?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 29, 2023, at 5:30 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:Today I decided to really go for it and wear those trouser jeans I’ve been putting off wearing. They are fairly ridiculous as they have to be wound around my legs twice and Velcro-strapped into submission. But, I want to wear things that are on trend and not just stuff that’s for the bike. So, here it is:Look at all that billowing denim.Wrapped into submission.Not really the look I was going for. But functional. That’s it for today.LeahSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 29, 2023, at 8:49 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:Extremely kind of you to withhold disapproval for my blue gloves.  Yuck!  Ruined the look.  I need to retire that cap also.  BL in ECOn Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 4:36:25 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Gravel jersey with earth tones and purple is my favorite. Very nice!On Sep 28, 2023, at 6:48 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:Purple Rivendell Legolas:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207773Purple Endo Customs Bib shorts:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803160685Gravel jersey with earthtone plaid and purple stripes:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52802196672Earthtone gravel shoes with purple socks:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207303My terrible blue gloves do not match the outfit. :(BL in ECOn Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:36:56 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:I've bought a lot of nice cycling clothing this year.  One Fit I really like is my Nature Morte outfit by Ostroy.  I think it goes nicely with my Endo Customs brown bib shorts:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53052227236Not pictured: the matching VEST!  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:52:53 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Gross! I am not wearing those boots or those…breeches. Or the menswear, but those sweaters are nice, and some of you would look nice in them. I propose that we keep the spirit of the thread going and post photos of us with our Rivs, showing off our bike style.LeahOn Sep 28, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:Here's an elegant little number from Belgium by way of Finland: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/belgian-breeches-wool-surplus/21642Ditch the boots for a nice pair of Dromartis. You don't even need the shirt.Some more serious possibilities here (men's page; I daresay they have a women's page too): https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/wool-and-dress-pants/843And wool pullover tops: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/pullovers-and-sweaters/131Merino hoodies: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/hoodies/1123Varusteleka have all sorts of new and remaindered sportswear and military surplus (Euro-surplus) and camping things too. Good stuff, tho' not cheap.Sorry, couldn't resist posting this one: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/genuine-soviet-cosmoline-anti-age-time-erasing-wonder/67431  Keeps your face looking young and your Kalashnikov rust-free. Also available in 150-litre barrels.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Ted Durant]

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:51:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

It’s time for more style on the bike posts! It’s truly autumn now. What are 
you wearing, fellow Rivsters? 


 Well, this was taken 11 years ago, but I'm sure I'll be wearing the same 
thing soon. Lycra shorts from Aerotech, Rivendell LS wool jersey. Socks 
these days are mostly from Bombas, not Smartwool. Shoes aren't shown ... 
for that bike, my Rivendell Road (Joe built/Joe painted), I still go with 
bindings, so shoes would be Lake MX-1. This photo was taken on an unusually 
warm Thanksgiving Day. In lower temps I'd probably wear my MUSA or Rene 
Herse knickers over the lycra shorts. The Riv Road doesn't have a handlebar 
bag so a jersey with rear pockets is usually needed. On a big with a 
handlebar bag I would just wear a Smartwool lightweight half-zip if it's 
not too cold. 

Sunny and upper 70's here this week ... I'll still be wearing SS polo 
shirts or LS seersucker.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Bill Lindsay]

Extremely kind of you to withhold disapproval for my blue gloves.  Yuck!  
Ruined the look.  I need to retire that cap also.  

BL in EC

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 4:36:25 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> Gravel jersey with earth tones and purple is my favorite. Very nice!
>
> On Sep 28, 2023, at 6:48 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> Purple Rivendell Legolas:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207773
>
> Purple Endo Customs Bib shorts:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803160685
>
> Gravel jersey with earthtone plaid and purple stripes:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52802196672
>
> Earthtone gravel shoes with purple socks:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207303
>
> My terrible blue gloves do not match the outfit. :(
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:36:56 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I've bought a lot of nice cycling clothing this year.  One Fit I really 
>> like is my Nature Morte outfit by Ostroy.  I think it goes nicely with my 
>> Endo Customs brown bib shorts:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53052227236
>>
>> Not pictured: the matching VEST!  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:52:53 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Gross! I am not wearing those boots or those…breeches. Or the menswear, 
>>> but those sweaters are nice, and some of you would look nice in them. 
>>>
>>> I propose that we keep the spirit of the thread going and post photos of 
>>> us with our Rivs, showing off our bike style.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 28, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Here's an elegant little number from Belgium by way of Finland: 
>>> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/belgian-breeches-wool-surplus/21642
>>>
>>> Ditch the boots for a nice pair of Dromartis. You don't even need the 
>>> shirt.
>>>
>>> Some more serious possibilities here (men's page; I daresay they have a 
>>> women's page too): 
>>> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/wool-and-dress-pants/843
>>>
>>> And wool pullover tops: 
>>> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/pullovers-and-sweaters/131
>>>
>>> Merino hoodies: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/hoodies/1123
>>>
>>> Varusteleka have all sorts of new and remaindered sportswear and 
>>> military surplus (Euro-surplus) and camping things too. Good stuff, tho' 
>>> not cheap.
>>>
>>> Sorry, couldn't resist posting this one: 
>>> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/genuine-soviet-cosmoline-anti-age-time-erasing-wonder/67431
>>>  
>>>  Keeps your face looking young and your Kalashnikov rust-free. Also 
>>> available in 150-litre barrels.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

Gravel jersey with earth tones and purple is my favorite. Very nice!On Sep 28, 2023, at 6:48 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:Purple Rivendell Legolas:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207773Purple Endo Customs Bib shorts:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803160685Gravel jersey with earthtone plaid and purple stripes:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52802196672Earthtone gravel shoes with purple socks:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207303My terrible blue gloves do not match the outfit. :(BL in ECOn Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:36:56 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:I've bought a lot of nice cycling clothing this year.  One Fit I really like is my Nature Morte outfit by Ostroy.  I think it goes nicely with my Endo Customs brown bib shorts:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53052227236Not pictured: the matching VEST!  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:52:53 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Gross! I am not wearing those boots or those…breeches. Or the menswear, but those sweaters are nice, and some of you would look nice in them. I propose that we keep the spirit of the thread going and post photos of us with our Rivs, showing off our bike style.LeahOn Sep 28, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:Here's an elegant little number from Belgium by way of Finland: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/belgian-breeches-wool-surplus/21642Ditch the boots for a nice pair of Dromartis. You don't even need the shirt.Some more serious possibilities here (men's page; I daresay they have a women's page too): https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/wool-and-dress-pants/843And wool pullover tops: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/pullovers-and-sweaters/131Merino hoodies: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/hoodies/1123Varusteleka have all sorts of new and remaindered sportswear and military surplus (Euro-surplus) and camping things too. Good stuff, tho' not cheap.Sorry, couldn't resist posting this one: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/genuine-soviet-cosmoline-anti-age-time-erasing-wonder/67431  Keeps your face looking young and your Kalashnikov rust-free. Also available in 150-litre barrels.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Bill Lindsay]

Purple Rivendell Legolas:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207773

Purple Endo Customs Bib shorts:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803160685

Gravel jersey with earthtone plaid and purple stripes:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52802196672

Earthtone gravel shoes with purple socks:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207303

My terrible blue gloves do not match the outfit. :(

BL in EC

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:36:56 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I've bought a lot of nice cycling clothing this year.  One Fit I really 
> like is my Nature Morte outfit by Ostroy.  I think it goes nicely with my 
> Endo Customs brown bib shorts:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53052227236
>
> Not pictured: the matching VEST!  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:52:53 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Gross! I am not wearing those boots or those…breeches. Or the menswear, 
>> but those sweaters are nice, and some of you would look nice in them. 
>>
>> I propose that we keep the spirit of the thread going and post photos of 
>> us with our Rivs, showing off our bike style.
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 28, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Here's an elegant little number from Belgium by way of Finland: 
>> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/belgian-breeches-wool-surplus/21642
>>
>> Ditch the boots for a nice pair of Dromartis. You don't even need the 
>> shirt.
>>
>> Some more serious possibilities here (men's page; I daresay they have a 
>> women's page too): 
>> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/wool-and-dress-pants/843
>>
>> And wool pullover tops: 
>> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/pullovers-and-sweaters/131
>>
>> Merino hoodies: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/hoodies/1123
>>
>> Varusteleka have all sorts of new and remaindered sportswear and military 
>> surplus (Euro-surplus) and camping things too. Good stuff, tho' not cheap.
>>
>> Sorry, couldn't resist posting this one: 
>> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/genuine-soviet-cosmoline-anti-age-time-erasing-wonder/67431
>>  
>>  Keeps your face looking young and your Kalashnikov rust-free. Also 
>> available in 150-litre barrels.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Bill Lindsay]

I've bought a lot of nice cycling clothing this year.  One Fit I really 
like is my Nature Morte outfit by Ostroy.  I think it goes nicely with my 
Endo Customs brown bib shorts:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53052227236

Not pictured: the matching VEST!  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA





On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:52:53 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> Gross! I am not wearing those boots or those…breeches. Or the menswear, 
> but those sweaters are nice, and some of you would look nice in them. 
>
> I propose that we keep the spirit of the thread going and post photos of 
> us with our Rivs, showing off our bike style.
>
> Leah
>
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Here's an elegant little number from Belgium by way of Finland: 
> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/belgian-breeches-wool-surplus/21642
>
> Ditch the boots for a nice pair of Dromartis. You don't even need the 
> shirt.
>
> Some more serious possibilities here (men's page; I daresay they have a 
> women's page too): 
> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/wool-and-dress-pants/843
>
> And wool pullover tops: 
> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/pullovers-and-sweaters/131
>
> Merino hoodies: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/hoodies/1123
>
> Varusteleka have all sorts of new and remaindered sportswear and military 
> surplus (Euro-surplus) and camping things too. Good stuff, tho' not cheap.
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist posting this one: 
> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/genuine-soviet-cosmoline-anti-age-time-erasing-wonder/67431
>  
>  Keeps your face looking young and your Kalashnikov rust-free. Also 
> available in 150-litre barrels.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

Gross! I am not wearing those boots or those…breeches. Or the menswear, but those sweaters are nice, and some of you would look nice in them. I propose that we keep the spirit of the thread going and post photos of us with our Rivs, showing off our bike style.LeahOn Sep 28, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:Here's an elegant little number from Belgium by way of Finland: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/belgian-breeches-wool-surplus/21642Ditch the boots for a nice pair of Dromartis. You don't even need the shirt.Some more serious possibilities here (men's page; I daresay they have a women's page too): https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/wool-and-dress-pants/843And wool pullover tops: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/pullovers-and-sweaters/131Merino hoodies: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/hoodies/1123Varusteleka have all sorts of new and remaindered sportswear and military surplus (Euro-surplus) and camping things too. Good stuff, tho' not cheap.Sorry, couldn't resist posting this one: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/genuine-soviet-cosmoline-anti-age-time-erasing-wonder/67431  Keeps your face looking young and your Kalashnikov rust-free. Also available in 150-litre barrels.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

['William Watson' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I've never had a breast pocket on a sweater to try, but thanks for the tip. 
I probably have my rando bag, frost river seat bag, or a pannier on 99% of 
my rides, but I see the appeal now. The new skill I'm learning on this 
sweater is adding in a quarter zipper, seems in my zone of proximal 
development so far. 

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:24:50 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
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> That's probably cigarettes in the pockets of that jersey! Cool guy style.
>
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 3:12 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Rivendell's Wooly Warm sweater (and the vest too, I think) had 2 or 3 
>> rear pockets with buttons; very convenient. I wish I'd kept my WW sweater; 
>> besides pockets it had a high, button-up neck which I do like.
>>
>> Speaking of bike style and sweaters, feat your plural eyes on this 
>> ensemble ("ensemble:" both the group and their outfits). With pants legs 
>> that baggy you don't need any pockets for storage.
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> And front pockets:
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 12:12 PM Peter Adler  wrote:
>>
>>> ... I find that bike-y sweaters typically don’t have pockets, as they’re 
>>> more like apres-ski wear. The sweaters that do often have a single zippers 
>>> pocket on the back.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Matti]

For some British retro styling: https://vimeo.com/2716712

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:12:52 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Rivendell's Wooly Warm sweater (and the vest too, I think) had 2 or 3 rear 
> pockets with buttons; very convenient. I wish I'd kept my WW sweater; 
> besides pockets it had a high, button-up neck which I do like.
>
> Speaking of bike style and sweaters, feat your plural eyes on this 
> ensemble ("ensemble:" both the group and their outfits). With pants legs 
> that baggy you don't need any pockets for storage.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> And front pockets:
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 12:12 PM Peter Adler  wrote:
>
>> ... I find that bike-y sweaters typically don’t have pockets, as they’re 
>> more like apres-ski wear. The sweaters that do often have a single zippers 
>> pocket on the back.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Bill Lindsay]

"You get way faster when your bike gets lighter."

Proven fact.  If you want to go 1 mile per hour faster, all you have to do 
is make your bike 12 pounds lighter.  This is known.  

BL in EC

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:12:18 AM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com 
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> Damn skippy. Breast pockets are awesome; I own one jersey with them (a San 
> Pellegrino that’s probably a repopulate, but it’s old enough that maybe 
> it’s original). In spite of the fact that the pockets are a little higher 
> than I’d prefer, they’re invaluable for phone/keys/snacks.
>
> Placement of pockets (both front and rear) are very personal; different 
> heights work for different people. If I were making my own jersey, I’d ride 
> it pocketless for a bit to figure out ideal placement before stitching the 
> pocket panels on.
>
> I find that bike-y sweaters typically don’t have pockets, as they’re more 
> like apres-ski wear. The sweaters that do often have a single zippers 
> pocket on the back. The big advantage of pockets is not having to carry an 
> extraneous bag every time you mount up.I always need to carry stuff, but 
> why should I pedal around huge bags if I only need stuff I can into 
> pockets? Strip the bags off (or ride a bag less bike), and all of a sudden 
> the collateral benefit of riding a heavy bike around becomes obvious: You 
> get way faster when your bike gets lighter.
>
> Peter “95% on the make you strong bike w/racks and panniers” Adler
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:42:17 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> But please consider button front breast pockets. For light things -- 
>> snack, phone, keys, wallet, they work wonderfully. I had just one jersey 
>> with them -- a retro-copy -- and I wish I'd kept it.
>>
>> Me, I miss pockets (rear as well as front) when my top doesn't have them.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 9:27 AM 'William Watson' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This fall/winter I am planning to knit my first bike sweater. It will be 
>>> a green quarter zip with a yellow stripe on the body and arms to match my 
>>> Goodrich. If the fit turns out right, I will make a few more to match other 
>>> bikes. I don't use back pockets, so the zipper will be challenge on this 
>>> project. 
>>>
>>> As for pants, I roll my jeans up high. This morning I forgot to unroll 
>>> my jeans; another teacher complimented the one rolled look because they 
>>> knew I biked to work!
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Peter Adler]

Damn skippy. Breast pockets are awesome; I own one jersey with them (a San 
Pellegrino that’s probably a repopulate, but it’s old enough that maybe 
it’s original). In spite of the fact that the pockets are a little higher 
than I’d prefer, they’re invaluable for phone/keys/snacks.

Placement of pockets (both front and rear) are very personal; different 
heights work for different people. If I were making my own jersey, I’d ride 
it pocketless for a bit to figure out ideal placement before stitching the 
pocket panels on.

I find that bike-y sweaters typically don’t have pockets, as they’re more 
like apres-ski wear. The sweaters that do often have a single zippers 
pocket on the back. The big advantage of pockets is not having to carry an 
extraneous bag every time you mount up.I always need to carry stuff, but 
why should I pedal around huge bags if I only need stuff I can into 
pockets? Strip the bags off (or ride a bag less bike), and all of a sudden 
the collateral benefit of riding a heavy bike around becomes obvious: You 
get way faster when your bike gets lighter.

Peter “95% on the make you strong bike w/racks and panniers” Adler
Berkeley, CA

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:42:17 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> But please consider button front breast pockets. For light things -- 
> snack, phone, keys, wallet, they work wonderfully. I had just one jersey 
> with them -- a retro-copy -- and I wish I'd kept it.
>
> Me, I miss pockets (rear as well as front) when my top doesn't have them.
>
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 9:27 AM 'William Watson' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> This fall/winter I am planning to knit my first bike sweater. It will be 
>> a green quarter zip with a yellow stripe on the body and arms to match my 
>> Goodrich. If the fit turns out right, I will make a few more to match other 
>> bikes. I don't use back pockets, so the zipper will be challenge on this 
>> project. 
>>
>> As for pants, I roll my jeans up high. This morning I forgot to unroll my 
>> jeans; another teacher complimented the one rolled look because they knew I 
>> biked to work!
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Patrick Moore]

But please consider button front breast pockets. For light things -- snack,
phone, keys, wallet, they work wonderfully. I had just one jersey with them
-- a retro-copy -- and I wish I'd kept it.

Me, I miss pockets (rear as well as front) when my top doesn't have them.

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 9:27 AM 'William Watson' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> This fall/winter I am planning to knit my first bike sweater. It will be a
> green quarter zip with a yellow stripe on the body and arms to match my
> Goodrich. If the fit turns out right, I will make a few more to match other
> bikes. I don't use back pockets, so the zipper will be challenge on this
> project.
>
> As for pants, I roll my jeans up high. This morning I forgot to unroll my
> jeans; another teacher complimented the one rolled look because they knew I
> biked to work!
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

['William Watson' via RBW Owners Bunch]

This fall/winter I am planning to knit my first bike sweater. It will be a 
green quarter zip with a yellow stripe on the body and arms to match my 
Goodrich. If the fit turns out right, I will make a few more to match other 
bikes. I don't use back pockets, so the zipper will be challenge on this 
project. 

As for pants, I roll my jeans up high. This morning I forgot to unroll my 
jeans; another teacher complimented the one rolled look because they knew I 
biked to work!

Will in Minneapolis

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 1:30:26 PM UTC-5 Davey Two Shoes wrote:

> I usually wear a snap button down "fly fishing" shirt from Howler Bros. 
> Long sleave whatever the temps. Popping the collar and leaving the sleaves 
> down in the sun really does help. For bottoms I usually wear some sort of 
> levis cut in to Bob Weir style shorts or "bobby's". Winter I tuck my pant 
> leg into my sock if theres slack.
>
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 10:29:29 AM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
>> I had a longer, rambling, draft response on this topic that is better 
>> left unread and may revisit to actually re-organize my thoughts at some 
>> point and maybe add to the discussion but had to at least come back to add 
>> one note:  With all the mention of WIDE legs and '90's attire returning... 
>> as another 90's (Gen. 'something or another' and class of '99!) member, I 
>> can't help but imagine someone attempting a tuck/peg & fold or ankle 
>> strapping on some of those ultra wide JNCO jeans for a ride.  Thanks for 
>> the much needed laughs!  The kind with deep pockets could even carry a 
>> pump, tube(s), toolkit, snacks, Hydroflasks, etc!  Who needs racks or bags 
>> or jersey pockets?!
>>
>> Brian
>> Lawrence NJ
>>
>> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 3:52:21 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> If you are claiming credit for turning me into a fop, then I'd dispute 
>>> that claim
>>> If you are claiming credit for helping make the RBW Group a more 
>>> welcoming space for people like me to let their fop flag fly, then I'd 
>>> definitely agree.
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:45:48 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 See? Already my Bike Fashion Thread is changing the world. I’ll try to 
 remain humble over here.
 Leah

 On Sep 17, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

 I've got three Ostroy resort shirts now... and two more in my "Cart". 
 They are addictive.


 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-7 bei...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of 
> your LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!
>
> Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling 
> turquoise jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all 
> Atlantises…men definitely need more accessories! 
>
> My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on 
> wearing these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days 
> and also really fun party shirts:
>
> https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirts
>
> That, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals 
> is my go-to bike fit for May-September. 
> [image: IMG_1330.jpeg]
>
>
> Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always 
> folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. 
>
> - Christian in Colorado, 
> who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…
> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy 
>> treating you? 
>>
>> Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a 
>> matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…
>>
>> I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it 
>> will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think 
>> of 
>> trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After 
>> years 
>> of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps 
>> (pink!) 
>> so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these 
>> teenagers 
>> to help me.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking 
>> then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my 
>> pants 
>> at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a 
>> tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my 
>> drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order 
>> to 
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Davey Two Shoes]

I usually wear a snap button down "fly fishing" shirt from Howler Bros. 
Long sleave whatever the temps. Popping the collar and leaving the sleaves 
down in the sun really does help. For bottoms I usually wear some sort of 
levis cut in to Bob Weir style shorts or "bobby's". Winter I tuck my pant 
leg into my sock if theres slack.

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 10:29:29 AM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> I had a longer, rambling, draft response on this topic that is better left 
> unread and may revisit to actually re-organize my thoughts at some point 
> and maybe add to the discussion but had to at least come back to add one 
> note:  With all the mention of WIDE legs and '90's attire returning... as 
> another 90's (Gen. 'something or another' and class of '99!) member, I 
> can't help but imagine someone attempting a tuck/peg & fold or ankle 
> strapping on some of those ultra wide JNCO jeans for a ride.  Thanks for 
> the much needed laughs!  The kind with deep pockets could even carry a 
> pump, tube(s), toolkit, snacks, Hydroflasks, etc!  Who needs racks or bags 
> or jersey pockets?!
>
> Brian
> Lawrence NJ
>
> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 3:52:21 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Leah
>>
>> If you are claiming credit for turning me into a fop, then I'd dispute 
>> that claim
>> If you are claiming credit for helping make the RBW Group a more 
>> welcoming space for people like me to let their fop flag fly, then I'd 
>> definitely agree.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:45:48 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> See? Already my Bike Fashion Thread is changing the world. I’ll try to 
>>> remain humble over here.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've got three Ostroy resort shirts now... and two more in my "Cart". 
>>> They are addictive.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-7 bei...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your 
 LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!

 Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling 
 turquoise jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all 
 Atlantises…men definitely need more accessories! 

 My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on 
 wearing these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days 
 and also really fun party shirts:

 https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirts

 That, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals 
 is my go-to bike fit for May-September. 
 [image: IMG_1330.jpeg]


 Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always 
 folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. 

 - Christian in Colorado, 
 who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…
 On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy 
> treating you? 
>
> Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a 
> matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…
>
> I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it 
> will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think 
> of 
> trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After 
> years 
> of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) 
> so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these 
> teenagers 
> to help me.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking 
> then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my 
> pants 
> at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a 
> tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my 
> drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to 
> rectify this issue. 
>
>
>
> However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed 
> jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the 
> other 
> side! 
>
> On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But 
>> where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about 
>> fashion 
>> on the bike?
>>
>> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was 
>> my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are 
>> back, and better. High-waisted 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

I had a longer, rambling, draft response on this topic that is better left 
unread and may revisit to actually re-organize my thoughts at some point 
and maybe add to the discussion but had to at least come back to add one 
note:  With all the mention of WIDE legs and '90's attire returning... as 
another 90's (Gen. 'something or another' and class of '99!) member, I 
can't help but imagine someone attempting a tuck/peg & fold or ankle 
strapping on some of those ultra wide JNCO jeans for a ride.  Thanks for 
the much needed laughs!  The kind with deep pockets could even carry a 
pump, tube(s), toolkit, snacks, Hydroflasks, etc!  Who needs racks or bags 
or jersey pockets?!

Brian
Lawrence NJ

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 3:52:21 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Leah
>
> If you are claiming credit for turning me into a fop, then I'd dispute 
> that claim
> If you are claiming credit for helping make the RBW Group a more welcoming 
> space for people like me to let their fop flag fly, then I'd definitely 
> agree.
>
> :)
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:45:48 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> See? Already my Bike Fashion Thread is changing the world. I’ll try to 
>> remain humble over here.
>> Leah
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>> I've got three Ostroy resort shirts now... and two more in my "Cart". 
>> They are addictive.
>>
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-7 bei...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your 
>>> LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!
>>>
>>> Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling 
>>> turquoise jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all 
>>> Atlantises…men definitely need more accessories! 
>>>
>>> My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on 
>>> wearing these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days 
>>> and also really fun party shirts:
>>>
>>> https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirts
>>>
>>> That, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals 
>>> is my go-to bike fit for May-September. 
>>> [image: IMG_1330.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always 
>>> folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. 
>>>
>>> - Christian in Colorado, 
>>> who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…
>>> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy 
 treating you? 

 Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a 
 matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…

 I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it 
 will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of 
 trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years 
 of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) 
 so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers 
 to help me.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:

 The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking 
 then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants 
 at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a 
 tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my 
 drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to 
 rectify this issue. 



 However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed 
 jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the 
 other 
 side! 

 On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But 
> where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion 
> on the bike?
>
> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band 
> wagon. 
> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg 
> trouser. 
>
> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the 
> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall 
> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried 
> about getting grease 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Bill Lindsay]

Leah

If you are claiming credit for turning me into a fop, then I'd dispute that 
claim
If you are claiming credit for helping make the RBW Group a more welcoming 
space for people like me to let their fop flag fly, then I'd definitely 
agree.

:)

BL in EC


On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:45:48 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> See? Already my Bike Fashion Thread is changing the world. I’ll try to 
> remain humble over here.
> Leah
>
> On Sep 17, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> I've got three Ostroy resort shirts now... and two more in my "Cart". 
> They are addictive.
>
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-7 bei...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your 
>> LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!
>>
>> Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling turquoise 
>> jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all Atlantises…men 
>> definitely need more accessories! 
>>
>> My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on wearing 
>> these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days and also 
>> really fun party shirts:
>>
>> https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirts
>>
>> That, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals is 
>> my go-to bike fit for May-September. 
>> [image: IMG_1330.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always 
>> folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. 
>>
>> - Christian in Colorado, 
>> who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…
>> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy 
>>> treating you? 
>>>
>>> Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a 
>>> matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…
>>>
>>> I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it 
>>> will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of 
>>> trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years 
>>> of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) 
>>> so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers 
>>> to help me.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
>>> The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking then 
>>> as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants at 
>>> the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a 
>>> tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my 
>>> drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to 
>>> rectify this issue. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed 
>>> jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the other 
>>> side! 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
 are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
 bike?

 The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
 era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
 and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
 could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
 I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
 charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg 
 trouser. 

 But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the 
 era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall 
 riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried 
 about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 

 Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. 
 I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over 
 getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my 
 Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those 
 straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got 
 home, well…here’s a photo. 

 I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want 
 to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes 
 (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good 
 for 
 biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re 
 just 
 going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”

 My other concern is my 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

See? Already my Bike Fashion Thread is changing the world. I’ll try to remain humble over here.LeahOn Sep 17, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:I've got three Ostroy resort shirts now... and two more in my "Cart". They are addictive.Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-7 bei...@gmail.com wrote:Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling turquoise jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all Atlantises…men definitely need more accessories! My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on wearing these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days and also really fun party shirts:https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirtsThat, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals is my go-to bike fit for May-September. Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. - Christian in Colorado, who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy treating you? Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers to help me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to rectify this issue. However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the other side! On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Bill Lindsay]

I've got three Ostroy resort shirts now... and two more in my "Cart". They 
are addictive.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-7 bei...@gmail.com wrote:

> Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your LL 
> Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!
>
> Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling turquoise 
> jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all Atlantises…men 
> definitely need more accessories! 
>
> My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on wearing 
> these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days and also 
> really fun party shirts:
>
> https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirts
>
> That, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals is 
> my go-to bike fit for May-September. 
> [image: IMG_1330.jpeg]
>
>
> Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always 
> folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. 
>
> - Christian in Colorado, 
> who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…
> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy 
>> treating you? 
>>
>> Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a 
>> matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…
>>
>> I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it will 
>> be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of 
>> trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years 
>> of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) 
>> so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers 
>> to help me.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking then 
>> as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants at 
>> the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a 
>> tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my 
>> drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to 
>> rectify this issue. 
>>
>>
>>
>> However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed 
>> jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the other 
>> side! 
>>
>> On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
>>> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
>>> bike?
>>>
>>> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
>>> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
>>> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
>>> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
>>> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
>>> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. 
>>>
>>> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the 
>>> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall 
>>> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried 
>>> about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>>>
>>> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. 
>>> I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over 
>>> getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my 
>>> Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those 
>>> straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got 
>>> home, well…here’s a photo. 
>>>
>>> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to 
>>> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, 
>>> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. 
>>> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going 
>>> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>>>
>>> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will 
>>> mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move 
>>> the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me 
>>> that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the 
>>> damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and 
>>> sneakers year-round.
>>>
>>> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? 
>>> Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? 
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While 
>>> I’m not too distressed about my army 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Ryan]

Christian you'd fit right in in season 2 of white lotus.
Very stylin

On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 12:56:27 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I’m thinking about switching up my bike style. I’m thinking shirts by Dan 
> Flashes, paired with Calico Cut pants. Maybe even one of those hats like 
> Brian has.
>
>
>
>
>
> *sorry this seemed like too good of an opportunity to fit in some “I Think 
> You Should Leave” references. Anyone?
>
> On Sep 16, 2023, at 1:21 PM, Christian B-H  wrote:
>
> Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your 
> LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!
>
>
> Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling turquoise 
> jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all Atlantises…men 
> definitely need more accessories! 
>
> My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on wearing 
> these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days and also 
> really fun party shirts:
>
> https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirts
>
> That, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals is 
> my go-to bike fit for May-September. 
>
> 
>
>
>
> Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always 
> folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. 
>
> - Christian in Colorado, 
> who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…
> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy 
>> treating you? 
>>
>> Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a 
>> matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…
>>
>> I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it will 
>> be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of 
>> trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years 
>> of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) 
>> so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers 
>> to help me.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking then 
>> as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants at 
>> the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a 
>> tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my 
>> drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to 
>> rectify this issue. 
>>
>>
>>
>> However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed 
>> jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the other 
>> side! 
>>
>> On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
>>> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
>>> bike?
>>>
>>> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
>>> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
>>> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
>>> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
>>> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
>>> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. 
>>>
>>> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the 
>>> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall 
>>> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried 
>>> about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>>>
>>> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. 
>>> I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over 
>>> getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my 
>>> Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those 
>>> straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got 
>>> home, well…here’s a photo. 
>>>
>>> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to 
>>> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, 
>>> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. 
>>> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going 
>>> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>>>
>>> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will 
>>> mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move 
>>> the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me 
>>> that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the 
>>> damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Brian Turner]

I’m thinking about switching up my bike style. I’m thinking shirts by Dan Flashes, paired with Calico Cut pants. Maybe even one of those hats like Brian has.*sorry this seemed like too good of an opportunity to fit in some “I Think You Should Leave” references. Anyone?On Sep 16, 2023, at 1:21 PM, Christian B-H  wrote:Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling turquoise jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all Atlantises…men definitely need more accessories! My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on wearing these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days and also really fun party shirts:https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirtsThat, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals is my go-to bike fit for May-September. Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. - Christian in Colorado, who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy treating you? Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers to help me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to rectify this issue. However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the other side! On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy treating you? Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers to help me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to rectify this issue. However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the other side! On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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[RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Caroline Golum]

I have a penchant for wide-legged pants and have yet to find a solution 
that works better than the sock tuck, just my two cents! 

On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 10:58:10 AM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:

> When I bike with long pants, I just clip up with one of these.
> What is this “as seen in old British films” comment?  These are MUSA.
>
> [image: Clips.JPG]
>
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[RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Sarah Carlson]

It's not very glamorous, but when I wear wide leg pants I just roll it up 
ridiculously high and take off. With the other stuff going on in the bay 
area I'm sure my rolled up pant leg is not going to catch anyone's 
attention. No bike grease yet!

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:13:39 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
> bike?
>
> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. 
>
> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era 
> of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding 
> boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about 
> getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>
> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I 
> really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting 
> them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack 
> for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work 
> better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, 
> well…here’s a photo. 
>
> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to 
> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, 
> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. 
> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going 
> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>
> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark 
> up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the 
> pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that 
> these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage 
> to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers 
> year-round.
>
> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do 
> you wear what you want? Do you even care? 
>
> Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m 
> not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel 
> differently if the pants were a lighter color. 
>
> Leah
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Chester]

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 8:37:28 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

Bill, I absolutely employed the 90s tactic of pegging those pants! And they 
managed to be bunched up under that Riv band anyway. I did NOT, however, do 
the peg and fold - remember that?!


Wow, flashback to Bugle Boys. 

When I ride to/from work, I just roll up my pants (without pegging), and 
often just walk around all day with the one leg still rolled up.

For longer riding to ride, I don't wear kit any more. Might wear something 
with a chamois but underneath "regular" shorts. Otherwise am wearing pretty 
much whatever I'd normally wear off the bike.

For shoes, though, when riding to ride, I got some of those Adidas 
Velosambas. They've got a recessed spot for 2-bolt SPD cleats but I ride 
them without cleats, on pedals with clips and straps. So I don't have to 
swap pedals for when I don't want to wear the Velosambas, e.g. for work. 
The Velosambas would be fine for a normal day but are stiff enough that I 
wouldn't choose to wear them off the bike. Which makes them better than 
normal sneakers while riding. Stiffer than the Five Tens I have for flat 
pedal MTB.

Chester 
SF Bay Area 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[John Dewey]

Great photos, Patrick. Those De Vlaeminck brothers, oh my, such great
memories and riding real bicycles.  Brian Chapman and a few others will
still build you one of those gorgeous machines. I pine for those days we
could walk into a good bike shop and grab one of those things off a hook on
the ceiling.




DE VLAEMINCK

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 7:04 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> If perfect form is perfect style, the first is a favorite but the second
> while much more relaxed is very close.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[SallyG]

[image: Clem.jpg]
Demonstrating use of Poodle Sock to snug sweatpants  and prevent 
catastrophe. Note stylish contrasting colors of Raspberry (oh, Leah, do I 
need a Platypus to match??) and Clem Metallic Pea frame.
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:04:37 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> If perfect form is perfect style, the first is a favorite but the second 
> while much more relaxed is very close.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Nick Payne]

This is my choice for style on a bike. Rudi Altig having a feed during a 
1964 TdF stage, pedalling with one foot and steering with the other:

[image: altig.jpg]

He died in 2016, but he was still riding a bike until shortly before then - 
he was one of the three cyclists in the arte.tv series on the North Sea 
cycle route that that was broadcast about ten years ago.

Nick Payne

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Doug H.]

Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold indeed! I 
must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and wish I still had 
it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though along with the 
mullet haircut.
Doug

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> *where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionality
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 80's. Hip 
>> to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make a comeback but 
>> 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)
>>
>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. So, 
>>> so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I can see 
>>> how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? And 
>>> its still in working order? 
>>>
>>> I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class of ‘99 - 
>>> here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had already been 
>>> there done that!
>>>
>>> Dorothy, I did not know that you sew your own clothes, but that elevates 
>>> you to an even higher status now that I do!
>>>
>>> Emily, yes, we are the same age! I love your ideas and will try the more 
>>> aggressive folding. But I would love to see your wide-leg styles since I’m 
>>> just getting into them.
>>>
>>> You RivSisters should definitely send us some bike style portraits. 
>>> Don’t leave Luke and I hanging out here by ourselves!
>>>
>>> Off to work. Hope to see more in this thread when I get off at 2:30.
>>> L
>>>
>>> On Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and 
>>> the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain 
>>> having recently greased up the leg of my new 
>>> so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.
>>>
>>> I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I 
>>> love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the 
>>> Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs 
>>> and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was 
>>> hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to 
>>> pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them 
>>> nearly every ride to work.
>>>
>>> For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good 
>>> peg and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. 
>>> Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and 
>>> photos coming! 
>>>
>>> Danielle
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I 
 love these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made 
 very 
 specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs 
 all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  

 You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. 

 On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
 wrote:

 I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go 
 to is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true 
 waist and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals 
 very, very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I 
 live that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have 
 riding specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of 
 my 
 jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. 


 On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some 
> elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it 
> by 
> the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get 
> creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing 
> or 
> any other pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in 
> a 
> pinch. With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the 
> little black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have 
> colored cord. A sewing supplier might also. 
>
> I noticed in the photo Leah posted of her ankle with grease stain the 
> cuff appears , how do I say . all flared out. I'd suggest when you 
> wrap 
> your leg,  pull your pants taught at the front, then fold the excess 
> fabric 
> around the outside of your leg so there's no excess fabric hanging out. 
> Then 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Johnny Alien]

*where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionality

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 80's. Hip 
> to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make a comeback but 
> 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> 
>> Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. So, 
>> so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I can see 
>> how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? And 
>> its still in working order? 
>>
>> I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class of ‘99 - 
>> here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had already been 
>> there done that!
>>
>> Dorothy, I did not know that you sew your own clothes, but that elevates 
>> you to an even higher status now that I do!
>>
>> Emily, yes, we are the same age! I love your ideas and will try the more 
>> aggressive folding. But I would love to see your wide-leg styles since I’m 
>> just getting into them.
>>
>> You RivSisters should definitely send us some bike style portraits. Don’t 
>> leave Luke and I hanging out here by ourselves!
>>
>> Off to work. Hope to see more in this thread when I get off at 2:30.
>> L
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and 
>> the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain 
>> having recently greased up the leg of my new 
>> so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.
>>
>> I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I 
>> love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the 
>> Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs 
>> and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was 
>> hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to 
>> pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them 
>> nearly every ride to work.
>>
>> For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg 
>> and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. 
>> Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and 
>> photos coming! 
>>
>> Danielle
>>
>> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I 
>>> love these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very 
>>> specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs 
>>> all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  
>>>
>>> You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. 
>>>
>>> On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go 
>>> to is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true 
>>> waist and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals 
>>> very, very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I 
>>> live that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have 
>>> riding specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my 
>>> jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>>
 Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some 
 elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by 
 the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get 
 creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or 
 any other pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in a 
 pinch. With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the 
 little black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have 
 colored cord. A sewing supplier might also. 

 I noticed in the photo Leah posted of her ankle with grease stain the 
 cuff appears , how do I say . all flared out. I'd suggest when you 
 wrap 
 your leg,  pull your pants taught at the front, then fold the excess 
 fabric 
 around the outside of your leg so there's no excess fabric hanging out. 
 Then put on your straps, leaving enough play for the knee to bend freely. 

 As for what I wear, since I've gone back to deep drop bar road bike 
 setups, I'm more in to road wear than ever as it's very functional and 
 serves a very specific purpose. I had already been wearing bib shorts for 
 the last 5 years, but since going lower and lower in drop none of my 
 previous clothing works, there's, there's too much bulk and 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Johnny Alien]

I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 80's. Hip 
to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make a comeback but 
80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> 
> Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. So, so 
> sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I can see how 
> they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? And its 
> still in working order? 
>
> I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class of ‘99 - 
> here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had already been 
> there done that!
>
> Dorothy, I did not know that you sew your own clothes, but that elevates 
> you to an even higher status now that I do!
>
> Emily, yes, we are the same age! I love your ideas and will try the more 
> aggressive folding. But I would love to see your wide-leg styles since I’m 
> just getting into them.
>
> You RivSisters should definitely send us some bike style portraits. Don’t 
> leave Luke and I hanging out here by ourselves!
>
> Off to work. Hope to see more in this thread when I get off at 2:30.
> L
>
> On Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  
> wrote:
>
> Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and 
> the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain 
> having recently greased up the leg of my new 
> so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.
>
> I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I 
> love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the 
> Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs 
> and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was 
> hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to 
> pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them 
> nearly every ride to work.
>
> For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg 
> and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. 
> Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and 
> photos coming! 
>
> Danielle
>
> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love 
>> these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very 
>> specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs 
>> all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  
>>
>> You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. 
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go to 
>> is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true waist 
>> and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals very, 
>> very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I live 
>> that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have riding 
>> specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my 
>> jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some 
>>> elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by 
>>> the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get 
>>> creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or 
>>> any other pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in a 
>>> pinch. With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the 
>>> little black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have 
>>> colored cord. A sewing supplier might also. 
>>>
>>> I noticed in the photo Leah posted of her ankle with grease stain the 
>>> cuff appears , how do I say . all flared out. I'd suggest when you wrap 
>>> your leg,  pull your pants taught at the front, then fold the excess fabric 
>>> around the outside of your leg so there's no excess fabric hanging out. 
>>> Then put on your straps, leaving enough play for the knee to bend freely. 
>>>
>>> As for what I wear, since I've gone back to deep drop bar road bike 
>>> setups, I'm more in to road wear than ever as it's very functional and 
>>> serves a very specific purpose. I had already been wearing bib shorts for 
>>> the last 5 years, but since going lower and lower in drop none of my 
>>> previous clothing works, there's, there's too much bulk and zippers rubbing 
>>> on shorts, none of which is any good !
>>> I do have my own style and have a preference for certain color and 
>>> combos. Even riding road clothes, you can dress "nice'. . as it's 
>>> simply a mater of self respect. 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. So, so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I can see how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? And its still in working order? I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class of ‘99 - here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had already been there done that!Dorothy, I did not know that you sew your own clothes, but that elevates you to an even higher status now that I do!Emily, yes, we are the same age! I love your ideas and will try the more aggressive folding. But I would love to see your wide-leg styles since I’m just getting into them.You RivSisters should definitely send us some bike style portraits. Don’t leave Luke and I hanging out here by ourselves!Off to work. Hope to see more in this thread when I get off at 2:30.LOn Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  wrote:Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain having recently greased up the leg of my new so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them nearly every ride to work.For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and photos coming! DanielleOn Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go to is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true waist and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals very, very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I live that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have riding specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or any other pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in a pinch. With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the little black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have colored cord. A sewing supplier might also. I noticed in the photo Leah posted of her ankle with grease stain the cuff appears , how do I say . all flared out. I'd suggest when you wrap your leg,  pull your pants taught at the front, then fold the excess fabric around the outside of your leg so there's no excess fabric hanging out. Then put on your straps, leaving enough play for the knee to bend freely. As for what I wear, since I've gone back to deep drop bar road bike setups, I'm more in to road wear than ever as it's very functional and serves a very specific purpose. I had already been wearing bib shorts for the last 5 years, but since going lower and lower in drop none of my previous clothing works, there's, there's too much bulk and zippers rubbing on shorts, none of which is any good !I do have my own style and have a preference for certain color and combos. Even riding road clothes, you can dress "nice'. . as it's simply a mater of self respect. Most sold colors of subtle combos of complimentary colors, no silly patterns or other weird things some clothes designers come up with. Mostly it's European styles as I find their sense of function and style very relatable, unlike American stuff !  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Patrick Moore]

Someone should start a RBW-rider fashion plate collection.

I'm about to comment on bike clothing/fashion, and that makes me chuckle
because my 22-year-old daughter often jokes about"Dad fashions" -- I still
have baggy pleated khakis from the late 1980s or early '90s. OTOH, one of
my daughter's currently fashionable pair of shoes is a pair of Addias
Sambas.

I use my bike for getting to places and I don't like a baggy, untucked
appearance, so I've worked out cycling-comfortable clothing that is
sufficiently dignified for the mature rider (few things more contemptible
than old people in 20-something deshabille).

Warm weather: I found trim but non-constricting, straight-bottom "bush"
shirts made from synthetic wicking fabric and rear ventilation mesh and
flap that does not easily wrinkle on remainder at Kohl's (also available
elsewhere) in white taterstall-type check and pretty sky blue, and bought
half a dozen. For church I pair these with 1 of 2 pairs of very light REI
nylon pants in sage or sand with snaps for rolling up the legs to either
knicker- or [long] shorts-lengths -- or, on sub-70* mornings, before 40*
temp rise, tucking into socks. I bought a pair of Specialized black canvas
flat-bottomed SPD cycling shoes that forgo any technical or roadie
appearance -- one day hope God willing to replace these with better-looking
leather Dromartis -- that let me stand during 2-hour Slavic Orthodox
liturgies without undue foot pain. I wear lightweight black PI mid-calf
socks, very amusingly labled "R" and "L."

Winter is easy. I have 8 or so dress-quality Merino wool pullovers, crew or
faux-turtleneck or full turtleneck in heather browns, heather olives, dark
reds, heather grays, and black -- all from Goodwill. Over these I wear a
dark-sky-blue Leatt cycling jacket, light shell with light lining, to which
which I had armpit zippers added -- the best upper-body clothing
modification I've had done, and really useful on 20*F mornings when you
ride back at 50+*. If it's cold enough outbound I'll add a charcoal Ibex
mid-weight stretch wool vest with zip-up crew neck to which I had added a
snap-fasten neck cinch.

I pair these with either a pair of dark gray heather Osloh jeans (much
modified to make them fit, g-dammit, because the were cut for 2016 hipster
style and not cycling comfort; and I had tailor remove the stupidly useless
"chain pad" on inside right bottom leg and some of the pocket complications
while adding Velcro closure to the stupidly shallow and unprotected right
hip key pocket); or with black syntho Endura cycling pants, also heavily
modified from the original hipster waist, with legs pegged and ankle
zippers added; or -- the acme of cycling fashion -- a pair of medium gray
Nordstrom men's dress flannels tailored into cycling knickers with
wind-blocking lining sewn into the front and matchin-color outer wear
lining sewn into the seat.

Summer, dress or casual, I wear one of a much worn collection of stylish
retro cycling caps that Nashbar was blowing out -- all teams *at least* 50
years defunct (latest? Mercier/BP? I've got a Legnano and 2 Moltenis), this
collection augmented by a few remaining custom caps in old-fashioned
fabrics and a recent collection of Rivendell cycling caps in various
colors. In winter I have a well-used Walz wool cap with earflaps, a PI
synthetic ditto, and various knit and padded headgear for even colder
weather. Plush-lined leather surplus German polizei gauntlets from
wonderful government surplus remainderer and cold weather sporting gear
purveyor Verusteleka with a variety of wool and silk and nylon over- and
under-layers.

Winter is wool and wool wicks, insulates when wet, and never stinks. The
big defect of otherwise wonderfully Synthetic jerseys and shirt for hot
weather riding is the stink. Tips for minimizing this: first, start clean.
Secondly, as long as your wear has been riding and not standing around
socially, upon return home rinse top -- knit jersey, woven bus shirt -- in
1 gallon of water, lightly press out water, and hang-drip-dry. I can get 8
hours out of a cycling top that without this would stink after a half-hour
ride.

I tried 1 or 2 very nice Pendleton shirts, but the cut made them bind and
the collars chafed.

I'd like to find trim -- no g-damned flapping! (but not binding in
shoulders and armpits) -- bush shirts with ventilation flap in pure cotton,
rayon, or linen; anyone have suggestions?




On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 1:08 PM Brian Turner  wrote:

> While I don’t consider myself the most stylish of dressers, what I wear
> daily is also what works for me well on the bike. I have never liked the
> idea of bike-specific clothing, so I’ve gravitated towards daily wear that
> also functions perfectly while riding. My bike friends have noted that I
> almost always wear some sort of button-up shirt, so I guess that is my
> “style”, for lack of a better word. In the summer, I prefer long-sleeve,
> roomy shirts that are lightweight and allow for venting or 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Emily Guise]

I have been all about the coastal grandma trend this summer, so I've been 
wearing a lot of flowy wide-legged pants. All of my current bikes have 
exposed chains, so what I've been doing is the peg and fold (as mentioned 
above) to my knee on the drive side leg while riding, then a quick unfold 
upon arriving at my destination. Folding it at least 3 times seems to be 
the key for these kinds of fabrics, as folding it only once or twice has 
caused unfortunate mid-ride unfolds. For fall, I usually wear slightly 
stiffer fabrics like denim and twill, so even though they are wide-leg, if 
I roll them up a 1-2 times then they stay and I don't usually need to peg 
them as well. If I get grease on them, it is at least on the inside. I wear 
mid-calf or knee-high socks so my legs stay warm.

Leah, I think we are close to the same age, and while the skinny leg and 
boot trend was great for biking, the thigh constriction was not, IMO. So I 
too am loving the return of high waist wide legs and freer thigh movement! 
:)

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:08:15 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> While I don’t consider myself the most stylish of dressers, what I wear 
> daily is also what works for me well on the bike. I have never liked the 
> idea of bike-specific clothing, so I’ve gravitated towards daily wear that 
> also functions perfectly while riding. My bike friends have noted that I 
> almost always wear some sort of button-up shirt, so I guess that is my 
> “style”, for lack of a better word. In the summer, I prefer long-sleeve, 
> roomy shirts that are lightweight and allow for venting or flapping in the 
> breeze. My current favorite summer shirts are somewhat technical fabric (I 
> think), and are various levels of UPF for that important sun protection. I 
> have probably five shirts made by Howler Brothers, and specifically their 
> “Matagorda” shirt. It’s kinda like those fishing shirts you see men wearing 
> but a bit more stylish and without those beachy pastel colors. I find them 
> ultra comfortable on hot days, and your body stays cooler with less exposed 
> skin. For footwear, my summer choice is either Vans or Five Ten for that 
> good grip on flat pedals. I haven’t really arrived at a preferred pair of 
> shorts… usually whatever works fine for me.
>
> For Fall and Winter, I’m either wearing my Kitsbow Icon or my Pendleton 
> Canyon shirts (both are the same weight Pendleton wool). The Kitsbow is 
> pricey and technical and you can no longer buy them unfortunately. I like 
> the fit, but the Pendleton Canyon is more relaxed and casual (think 
> old-school cowboy wear). Pair either of these shirts with a wool t-shirt or 
> long-sleeve base layer and you are all set for cool weather riding. All of 
> my pants are typically slim-cut, so I never have any issues with the cuff 
> getting caught up in the drivetrain. My favorite riding pants are from when 
> Levis used to make a line of “bike commuter” pants. They’re like heavy 
> duty, gusseted-crotch chinos with a combination of cotton and spandex for a 
> bit of stretch. I have two pair, but unfortunately they no longer make 
> them… but they’re amazing. I also prefer to bike in Blundstone boots during 
> the colder months of the year. They are actually quite nice for pedaling.
>
> I should also note that I never wear chamois or bibs, ever. I sweat too 
> much, and the thought of sitting on a wet sponge causing all that nasty 
> friction kinda grosses me out. Just wool boxers, whatever pants I’m 
> wearing, and a leather saddle. That combo has always treated my right, even 
> on 100 mi rides.
>
> Brian
> Lexington, KY
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  
> wrote:
>
> Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and 
> the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain 
> having recently greased up the leg of my new 
> so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.
>
>
> I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I 
> love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the 
> Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs 
> and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was 
> hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to 
> pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them 
> nearly every ride to work.
>
> For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg 
> and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. 
> Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and 
> photos coming! 
>
> Danielle
>
> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love 
>> these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very 
>> specific 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Brian Turner]

While I don’t consider myself the most stylish of dressers, what I wear daily is also what works for me well on the bike. I have never liked the idea of bike-specific clothing, so I’ve gravitated towards daily wear that also functions perfectly while riding. My bike friends have noted that I almost always wear some sort of button-up shirt, so I guess that is my “style”, for lack of a better word. In the summer, I prefer long-sleeve, roomy shirts that are lightweight and allow for venting or flapping in the breeze. My current favorite summer shirts are somewhat technical fabric (I think), and are various levels of UPF for that important sun protection. I have probably five shirts made by Howler Brothers, and specifically their “Matagorda” shirt. It’s kinda like those fishing shirts you see men wearing but a bit more stylish and without those beachy pastel colors. I find them ultra comfortable on hot days, and your body stays cooler with less exposed skin. For footwear, my summer choice is either Vans or Five Ten for that good grip on flat pedals. I haven’t really arrived at a preferred pair of shorts… usually whatever works fine for me.For Fall and Winter, I’m either wearing my Kitsbow Icon or my Pendleton Canyon shirts (both are the same weight Pendleton wool). The Kitsbow is pricey and technical and you can no longer buy them unfortunately. I like the fit, but the Pendleton Canyon is more relaxed and casual (think old-school cowboy wear). Pair either of these shirts with a wool t-shirt or long-sleeve base layer and you are all set for cool weather riding. All of my pants are typically slim-cut, so I never have any issues with the cuff getting caught up in the drivetrain. My favorite riding pants are from when Levis used to make a line of “bike commuter” pants. They’re like heavy duty, gusseted-crotch chinos with a combination of cotton and spandex for a bit of stretch. I have two pair, but unfortunately they no longer make them… but they’re amazing. I also prefer to bike in Blundstone boots during the colder months of the year. They are actually quite nice for pedaling.I should also note that I never wear chamois or bibs, ever. I sweat too much, and the thought of sitting on a wet sponge causing all that nasty friction kinda grosses me out. Just wool boxers, whatever pants I’m wearing, and a leather saddle. That combo has always treated my right, even on 100 mi rides.BrianLexington, KYSent from my iPadOn Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  wrote:Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain having recently greased up the leg of my new so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them nearly every ride to work.For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and photos coming! DanielleOn Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go to is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true waist and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals very, very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I live that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have riding specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or any other pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in a pinch. With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the little black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have colored 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[danielle da cruz]

Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and the 
hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain 
having recently greased up the leg of my new 
so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.

I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I 
love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the 
Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs 
and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was 
hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to 
pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them 
nearly every ride to work.

For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg 
and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. 
Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and 
photos coming! 

Danielle

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love 
> these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very 
> specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs 
> all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  
>
> You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. 
>
> On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
> wrote:
>
> I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go to 
> is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true waist 
> and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals very, 
> very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I live 
> that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have riding 
> specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my 
> jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. 
>
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some 
>> elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by 
>> the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get 
>> creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or 
>> any other pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in a 
>> pinch. With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the 
>> little black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have 
>> colored cord. A sewing supplier might also. 
>>
>> I noticed in the photo Leah posted of her ankle with grease stain the 
>> cuff appears , how do I say . all flared out. I'd suggest when you wrap 
>> your leg,  pull your pants taught at the front, then fold the excess fabric 
>> around the outside of your leg so there's no excess fabric hanging out. 
>> Then put on your straps, leaving enough play for the knee to bend freely. 
>>
>> As for what I wear, since I've gone back to deep drop bar road bike 
>> setups, I'm more in to road wear than ever as it's very functional and 
>> serves a very specific purpose. I had already been wearing bib shorts for 
>> the last 5 years, but since going lower and lower in drop none of my 
>> previous clothing works, there's, there's too much bulk and zippers rubbing 
>> on shorts, none of which is any good !
>> I do have my own style and have a preference for certain color and 
>> combos. Even riding road clothes, you can dress "nice'. . as it's 
>> simply a mater of self respect. Most sold colors of subtle combos of 
>> complimentary colors, no silly patterns or other weird things some clothes 
>> designers come up with. Mostly it's European styles as I find their sense 
>> of function and style very relatable, unlike American stuff !  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Dorothy C]

I can’t really advise on clothes, because I sew most of the clothes I wear, 
but unfortunately my hand made skirts and dresses don’t really work on the 
bike. I wore a handmade grey dress recently when I was using my Cheviot, 
which has an unguarded triple, on my car’s hitch mount rack, and I managed 
to plant a big chainring mark on the front of the skirt while lifting the 
bike onto the rack. Luckily I was able to get the stain out by rubbing it 
with Mexican Zote laundry soap and cold water, then laundering as normal. 
My favorite pants for bike riding were the sadly discontinued REI Kornati, 
which have a little horizontal loop at knee level on the outside of each 
side of the knee, and a vertical hanging strap on the insides of the legs, 
with two parts of plastic snap on the end of the strap. They are 
unnoticeable when then pants are worn unrolled, but gather up each side of 
the legs when the straps are snapped through the loop. My handmade jeans 
are all narrow enough legs that I just fold them up out of the way, but my 
company’s dress code only allows jeans on Fridays. 
For footwear I like Xero shoes, which are very thin soled. I have the Mesa 
Trail, Kelso and a knit slip on style called Oswego which I don’t think 
they carry any more. They work well for my small wide feet and have enough 
grip on the pedals. 
On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 5:03:42 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love 
> these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very 
> specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs 
> all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  
>
> You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. 
>
> On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
> wrote:
>
> I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go to 
> is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true waist 
> and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals very, 
> very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I live 
> that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have riding 
> specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my 
> jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. 
>
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some 
>> elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by 
>> the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get 
>> creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or 
>> any other pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in a 
>> pinch. With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the 
>> little black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have 
>> colored cord. A sewing supplier might also. 
>>
>> I noticed in the photo Leah posted of her ankle with grease stain the 
>> cuff appears , how do I say . all flared out. I'd suggest when you wrap 
>> your leg,  pull your pants taught at the front, then fold the excess fabric 
>> around the outside of your leg so there's no excess fabric hanging out. 
>> Then put on your straps, leaving enough play for the knee to bend freely. 
>>
>> As for what I wear, since I've gone back to deep drop bar road bike 
>> setups, I'm more in to road wear than ever as it's very functional and 
>> serves a very specific purpose. I had already been wearing bib shorts for 
>> the last 5 years, but since going lower and lower in drop none of my 
>> previous clothing works, there's, there's too much bulk and zippers rubbing 
>> on shorts, none of which is any good !
>> I do have my own style and have a preference for certain color and 
>> combos. Even riding road clothes, you can dress "nice'. . as it's 
>> simply a mater of self respect. Most sold colors of subtle combos of 
>> complimentary colors, no silly patterns or other weird things some clothes 
>> designers come up with. Mostly it's European styles as I find their sense 
>> of function and style very relatable, unlike American stuff !  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go to is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true waist and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals very, very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I live that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have riding specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or any other pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in a pinch. With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the little black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have colored cord. A sewing supplier might also. I noticed in the photo Leah posted of her ankle with grease stain the cuff appears , how do I say . all flared out. I'd suggest when you wrap your leg,  pull your pants taught at the front, then fold the excess fabric around the outside of your leg so there's no excess fabric hanging out. Then put on your straps, leaving enough play for the knee to bend freely. As for what I wear, since I've gone back to deep drop bar road bike setups, I'm more in to road wear than ever as it's very functional and serves a very specific purpose. I had already been wearing bib shorts for the last 5 years, but since going lower and lower in drop none of my previous clothing works, there's, there's too much bulk and zippers rubbing on shorts, none of which is any good !I do have my own style and have a preference for certain color and combos. Even riding road clothes, you can dress "nice'. . as it's simply a mater of self respect. Most sold colors of subtle combos of complimentary colors, no silly patterns or other weird things some clothes designers come up with. Mostly it's European styles as I find their sense of function and style very relatable, unlike American stuff !  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Garth]

Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some elastic 
bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by the foot 
and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get creative 
and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or any other 
pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in a pinch. 
With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the little 
black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have colored cord. 
A sewing supplier might also. 

I noticed in the photo Leah posted of her ankle with grease stain the cuff 
appears , how do I say . all flared out. I'd suggest when you wrap your 
leg,  pull your pants taught at the front, then fold the excess fabric 
around the outside of your leg so there's no excess fabric hanging out. 
Then put on your straps, leaving enough play for the knee to bend freely. 

As for what I wear, since I've gone back to deep drop bar road bike setups, 
I'm more in to road wear than ever as it's very functional and serves a 
very specific purpose. I had already been wearing bib shorts for the last 5 
years, but since going lower and lower in drop none of my previous clothing 
works, there's, there's too much bulk and zippers rubbing on shorts, none 
of which is any good !
I do have my own style and have a preference for certain color and combos. 
Even riding road clothes, you can dress "nice'. . as it's simply a 
mater of self respect. Most sold colors of subtle combos of complimentary 
colors, no silly patterns or other weird things some clothes designers come 
up with. Mostly it's European styles as I find their sense of function and 
style very relatable, unlike American stuff !  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[George Schick]

Bill - "class of '87' ??  I never woulda guessed it.  I always figured you 
were an old fart like me - class of '67, who just a few years before the 
end of the .60's wore super-tapered jeans like the millennials a few 
decades or so ago from now wore..


On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:53:12 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> "the peg and fold - remember that?! "
>
> I lived that!  I was class of '87.  We all did the peg and fold and had 
> our bangs up high with hairspray like flock of seagulls.  
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 8:37:28 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Bill, I absolutely employed the 90s tactic of pegging those pants! And 
>> they managed to be bunched up under that Riv band anyway. I did NOT, 
>> however, do the peg and fold - remember that?! 
>>
>> The Aardvark band looks promising, albeit ugly and expensive. I’m 
>> wondering if a stack of regular bands would accomplish the same. We’ll find 
>> out when my Amazon order arrives.
>> L
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>> Regarding keeping your pants grease free:  Rivendell sells the absolute 
>> best ankle strap for conspicuity. 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/ankle-reflector-rar?_pos=1&_psq=ankle&_ss=e&_v=1.0
>>
>> That legband is lousy for keeping your pants out of the chain.  The far 
>> better ankle band for keeping your pants out of the chain is the Aardvark 
>> Ankle Biters:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/303745533555 Every bike should 
>> have one of these wrapped around the handlebar for easy use.  It also 
>> doubles very well as a parking brake.  
>>
>> Remember how we used to "peg" our jeans or trousers?  That's how you use 
>> an ankle strap.  Take a fold of fabric at your shin, fold it AWAY from the 
>> centerline of the bike and then strap that down with the ankle strap. 
>>  Don't just bunch up your pant leg and let it flare out like a tutu on the 
>> bottom.  That's still going to get into the chain.  Let me know if that's 
>> not clear, and I'll do a photo essay for you.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:13:39 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
>>> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
>>> bike?
>>>
>>> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
>>> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
>>> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
>>> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
>>> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
>>> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. 
>>>
>>> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the 
>>> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall 
>>> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried 
>>> about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>>>
>>> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. 
>>> I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over 
>>> getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my 
>>> Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those 
>>> straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got 
>>> home, well…here’s a photo. 
>>>
>>> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to 
>>> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, 
>>> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. 
>>> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going 
>>> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>>>
>>> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will 
>>> mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move 
>>> the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me 
>>> that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the 
>>> damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and 
>>> sneakers year-round.
>>>
>>> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? 
>>> Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? 
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While 
>>> I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might 
>>> feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Eric Marth]

Hi Leah,  I'm certain a lot of men on this forum and others who ride bikes 
think plenty about clothes that work for bike riding. Grant Petersen, who 
is a man, has had lots of clothing custom made for Rivendell during the 
entire run of the company. Wool layers, custom pants, shorts, hats. If you 
look at pictures Grant is pretty much always dressed 100% in clothing he 
designed himself. 

As much as non-bike clothing is espoused by Grant and Rivendell, when we 
wear clothes that are good for riding we are wearing bicycle-specific 
clothing at the end of the day. I do this as well and get dressed to be 
comfortable on my bike all the time. It's not a nylon jersey and clicky 
shoes but I make sure the stuff I wear is good on the bike. 

Most of my everyday clothes are good for errands. I do like to avoid stuff 
that looks like "bicycle kit", (don't like neon, don't like bright colors, 
don't like lots of logos) and I avoid lycra and nylon when I can. But I 
wear shoes, shorts, undies and shirts that I find comfy while riding. I 
change my clothes a lot. If it's 90º and I'm going on a thirty mile ride 
I'll grab my nylon bibs and a light wool shirt and put on a certain pair of 
socks and shoes. 

I really wish I could wear canvas shorts on summer rides. But I might be 
abnormally sweaty. The shorts just get soaked through with sweat, the 
fabric gets plastered to the leather Brooks beneath me and I can't slide 
around on my saddle. It's a chafing nightmare. Crust just came out with a new 
canvas short 
 
designed for riding with a 6" inseam. They look awesome! But at $155 I 
don't think I will throw down. I'm sure it's a fair price considering what 
they cost to manufacture, they are made in Los Angeles. On longer rides I 
prefer bibs when it's super hot & humid. This has been a real discovery and 
revelation for me this summer and has made hot rides way more tolerable for 
me. And I love my 100% wool Kucharik shorts that I tore the pad out from. 

Because I run errands on my bike almost every day, often short trips of 
less than two miles, I think about what clothing works well on the bike a 
lot. I run to the bank, my office, job sites,  the grocery, the post 
office, the hardware store. In the summer it's easy. Almost any shorts and 
some sandals. When it's cold pants can become a problem. I hate getting 
grease all over my pants! I also dislike leg bands, too much hassle for me.

One solution that works for me is "slim straight" pants like Stan Ray Easy 
Chinos or LL Bean chinos in a slim or straight fit. They're comfy enough 
for riding and slim enough that grease interference isn't a problem. I've 
retired entire groups of pants that I liked because I couldn't keep them 
away from grease. If I had a regular bicycle commute and had a job with a 
dress code I'd probably regularly wear some slim-straight pants with 2% 
spandex blended in and be sure to keep a few extra tees and button downs 
along with a stack of clean bandanas at the office. 

Here's a grease removal tip that worked for me: Take your greasy pants and 
clean them with Phil hand cleaner and a stiff brush in the sink before 
putting them in the washer. Scrub the Phil in dry, rinse in the sink. Then 
wash em. I get 98% of the grease out of my pants this way. 

I didn't learn about "tight rolling" jeans until I was in college circa 
2004. Never heard it referred to as "pegging." 

I like linen quite a lot but when it's super hot and humid, as it has been 
for much of the summer here in Virginia, I sweat through the linen and it 
just sits on me like a big wet towel. I think 100% merino in different cuts 
like tees, sleeveless tees or singlets are great for hot weather. 

I like wool all year. When it's cooler I like a merino turtleneck, merino 
tights. Sometimes I wear big wool sweaters and get thoroughly overheated. 

As for bicycle style my personal favorite point of reference are classical 
French cyclotourists in short cotton shorts and cotton or wool tops, like 
this picture of Jean Dejeans and Paulette Porthault. Not sure how it looks 
to you but it is timeless to me.  

[image: 43_chanteloup_tandem.jpg]
On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 12:30:16 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> I feel like Sally has just given us all an invitation to post our cute 
> bike outfits. 
>
> You know what to do. Fine, me first.
>
> 1. This jumpsuit from LL Bean, which coordinated with my Platypus.
> [image: image1.jpeg]
>
> 2. This New Bike Day photo of my raspberry Platypus in 2020 - see? Those 
> were the boots-in-jeans days and weren’t they practical?
> [image: image2.jpeg]
>
> 3. Summer in ‘23 on a Rivendell Ride; you can wear anything in summer and 
> it works on the bike. Shorts and sun shirt with tank layered underneath.
> [image: image3.jpeg]
>
> 4. Rare sighting of my neglected Clem. Linen shirt . Linen shirts forever!
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Richard Rose]

I am a Kitsbow devotee & their demise still hurts. Cycling specific garments equally at home off the bike are my go to’s. Search & State stuff is beautiful but most of their stuff is more road oriented. I really do like their few more casual offerings.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 9, 2023, at 11:42 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:Justus, I had never heard of these brands and looked them up - I love them. They are for men, but I would encourage other men on this list to shop there because the clothes look fantastic. Jealous!Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 9, 2023, at 11:15 AM, J G  wrote:While I still kit up (to a lesser or greater extent) for bigger rides, I converged biking and daily wear about a dozen years ago.  Search and State and Mission Workshop on the kit end and brands like Outlier and Swrve along with Icebreaker and the original Ibex provided daily wear options that performed well on a bike.  Outlier generally leaning a bit more to the office friendly and fashion end and Swrve with more gussets and articulation leans to the all day on a bike side.  Added bonus is that both companies work with interesting high performance fabrics with Outlier having that at its core and Swrve generally doing special runs via their blk_label line.  Both companies also originally had all of their production in NYC and SF respectively and I try and support small businesses with sound ethics where I can.  Speaking of that, Kitsbow would be another mention as I really liked their wool Icon shirts, but they have recently gone under.  Fashions change, style endures.  Keep wearing those skinny jeans and high boots if you like them.  Whatever gear makes a bike most accessible to you is the good stuff.-JustusMpls, MNOn Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 9:44:06 AM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:I empathize, Leah. Not being one for beausage in any area of life, I am okay with wear and character on boots, but not with chain grease on pants.  You might try various ankle straps; those with velcro seem to have limited effectiveness, as your experience suggest, and wear out over time. But there are many others out there that may be more effective, either with an extended strap mechanism or with a clip design (as seen in old British films).  I'm sure you can find a design that will have you rockin' the 90s grease-free!Tom (who commuted to campus by bike for years, mostly grease-free)On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:13:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Sally Bidleman]

Leah and Company,

Excellent reading; thank you! As a new Riv Rider, I've been  remiss in
considering legwear  (only sported old sweatpants that I can push up as
necessary). I've concentrated more on topsFrench-ish stripes and
Kule-brand "Thank you, have a nice day" t-shirts, etc. And Birkenstocks or
Hokas...Certainly, I aspire to being cuter, but have yet to find a fashion
that will minimize incessant eye-rolling of 22-year-old daughter, ha!

Sally

On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 8:42 AM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Justus, I had never heard of these brands and looked them up - I love
> them. They are for men, but I would encourage other men on this list to
> shop there because the clothes look fantastic. Jealous!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:15 AM, J G  wrote:
>
> While I still kit up (to a lesser or greater extent) for bigger rides, I
> converged biking and daily wear about a dozen years ago.  Search and State
> and Mission Workshop on the kit end and brands like Outlier and Swrve along
> with Icebreaker and the original Ibex provided daily wear options that
> performed well on a bike.  Outlier generally leaning a bit more to the
> office friendly and fashion end and Swrve with more gussets and
> articulation leans to the all day on a bike side.  Added bonus is that both
> companies work with interesting high performance fabrics with Outlier
> having that at its core and Swrve generally doing special runs via their
> blk_label line.  Both companies also originally had all of their production
> in NYC and SF respectively and I try and support small businesses with
> sound ethics where I can.  Speaking of that, Kitsbow would be another
> mention as I really liked their wool Icon shirts, but they have recently
> gone under.
>
> Fashions change, style endures.  Keep wearing those skinny jeans and high
> boots if you like them.  Whatever gear makes a bike most accessible to you
> is the good stuff.
>
> -Justus
> Mpls, MN
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 9:44:06 AM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> I empathize, Leah. Not being one for beausage in any area of life, I am
>> okay with wear and character on boots, but not with chain grease on pants.
>> You might try various ankle straps; those with velcro seem to have limited
>> effectiveness, as your experience suggest, and wear out over time. But
>> there are many others out there that may be more effective, either with an
>> extended strap mechanism or with a clip design (as seen in old British
>> films).  I'm sure you can find a design that will have you rockin' the 90s
>> grease-free!
>>
>> Tom (who commuted to campus by bike for years, mostly grease-free)
>>
>> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:13:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where
>>> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the
>>> bike?
>>>
>>> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my
>>> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back,
>>> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you
>>> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon.
>>> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a
>>> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser.
>>>
>>> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the
>>> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall
>>> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried
>>> about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era.
>>>
>>> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch.
>>> I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over
>>> getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my
>>> Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those
>>> straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got
>>> home, well…here’s a photo.
>>>
>>> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to
>>> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic,
>>> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking.
>>> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going
>>> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>>>
>>> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will
>>> mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move
>>> the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me
>>> that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the
>>> damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and
>>> sneakers year-round.
>>>
>>> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike?
>>> Do you wear 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Bill Lindsay]

"the peg and fold - remember that?! "

I lived that!  I was class of '87.  We all did the peg and fold and had our 
bangs up high with hairspray like flock of seagulls.  

BL in EC

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 8:37:28 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Bill, I absolutely employed the 90s tactic of pegging those pants! And 
> they managed to be bunched up under that Riv band anyway. I did NOT, 
> however, do the peg and fold - remember that?! 
>
> The Aardvark band looks promising, albeit ugly and expensive. I’m 
> wondering if a stack of regular bands would accomplish the same. We’ll find 
> out when my Amazon order arrives.
> L
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> Leah
>
>
> Regarding keeping your pants grease free:  Rivendell sells the absolute 
> best ankle strap for conspicuity. 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/ankle-reflector-rar?_pos=1&_psq=ankle&_ss=e&_v=1.0
>
> That legband is lousy for keeping your pants out of the chain.  The far 
> better ankle band for keeping your pants out of the chain is the Aardvark 
> Ankle Biters:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/303745533555 Every bike should 
> have one of these wrapped around the handlebar for easy use.  It also 
> doubles very well as a parking brake.  
>
> Remember how we used to "peg" our jeans or trousers?  That's how you use 
> an ankle strap.  Take a fold of fabric at your shin, fold it AWAY from the 
> centerline of the bike and then strap that down with the ankle strap. 
>  Don't just bunch up your pant leg and let it flare out like a tutu on the 
> bottom.  That's still going to get into the chain.  Let me know if that's 
> not clear, and I'll do a photo essay for you.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:13:39 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
>> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
>> bike?
>>
>> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
>> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
>> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
>> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
>> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
>> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. 
>>
>> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the 
>> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall 
>> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried 
>> about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>>
>> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I 
>> really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting 
>> them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack 
>> for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work 
>> better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, 
>> well…here’s a photo. 
>>
>> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to 
>> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, 
>> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. 
>> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going 
>> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>>
>> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will 
>> mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move 
>> the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me 
>> that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the 
>> damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and 
>> sneakers year-round.
>>
>> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do 
>> you wear what you want? Do you even care? 
>>
>> Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While 
>> I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might 
>> feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
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[Leah Peterson]

Justus, I had never heard of these brands and looked them up - I love them. They are for men, but I would encourage other men on this list to shop there because the clothes look fantastic. Jealous!Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 9, 2023, at 11:15 AM, J G  wrote:While I still kit up (to a lesser or greater extent) for bigger rides, I converged biking and daily wear about a dozen years ago.  Search and State and Mission Workshop on the kit end and brands like Outlier and Swrve along with Icebreaker and the original Ibex provided daily wear options that performed well on a bike.  Outlier generally leaning a bit more to the office friendly and fashion end and Swrve with more gussets and articulation leans to the all day on a bike side.  Added bonus is that both companies work with interesting high performance fabrics with Outlier having that at its core and Swrve generally doing special runs via their blk_label line.  Both companies also originally had all of their production in NYC and SF respectively and I try and support small businesses with sound ethics where I can.  Speaking of that, Kitsbow would be another mention as I really liked their wool Icon shirts, but they have recently gone under.  Fashions change, style endures.  Keep wearing those skinny jeans and high boots if you like them.  Whatever gear makes a bike most accessible to you is the good stuff.-JustusMpls, MNOn Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 9:44:06 AM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:I empathize, Leah. Not being one for beausage in any area of life, I am okay with wear and character on boots, but not with chain grease on pants.  You might try various ankle straps; those with velcro seem to have limited effectiveness, as your experience suggest, and wear out over time. But there are many others out there that may be more effective, either with an extended strap mechanism or with a clip design (as seen in old British films).  I'm sure you can find a design that will have you rockin' the 90s grease-free!Tom (who commuted to campus by bike for years, mostly grease-free)On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:13:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Patrick Moore]

+1. This is also the easiest way to tuck pants into socks.

I have some neoprene "Leg Shield" cycling gaiters that cover the pants legs
up to about an 11" height and close with velcro. I daresay too warm for
summer but perhaps there are lightweight ones available?

Leg Shield suggests wearing their gaiters a bit loose in warm weather. Tip:
buy a yellow one for the traffic side, and black on for the chain side.

https://bikelegstrap.com/leg-shield

I keep mine for wet and muddy weather but have to confess I've used them
only a couple of times.

Leg Shield also makes neoprene reflective bands that are wider than many
other bands and "stick" better to trousers than nylon bands.


On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 9:27 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Remember how we used to "peg" our jeans or trousers?  That's how you use
> an ankle strap.  Take a fold of fabric at your shin, fold it AWAY from the
> centerline of the bike and then strap that down with the ankle strap.
> Don't just bunch up your pant leg and let it flare out like a tutu on the
> bottom.  That's still going to get into the chain.  Let me know if that's
> not clear, and I'll do a photo essay for you.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

Bill, I absolutely employed the 90s tactic of pegging those pants! And they managed to be bunched up under that Riv band anyway. I did NOT, however, do the peg and fold - remember that?! The Aardvark band looks promising, albeit ugly and expensive. I’m wondering if a stack of regular bands would accomplish the same. We’ll find out when my Amazon order arrives.LSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:LeahRegarding keeping your pants grease free:  Rivendell sells the absolute best ankle strap for conspicuity. https://www.rivbike.com/products/ankle-reflector-rar?_pos=1&_psq=ankle&_ss=e&_v=1.0That legband is lousy for keeping your pants out of the chain.  The far better ankle band for keeping your pants out of the chain is the Aardvark Ankle Biters:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/303745533555 Every bike should have one of these wrapped around the handlebar for easy use.  It also doubles very well as a parking brake.  Remember how we used to "peg" our jeans or trousers?  That's how you use an ankle strap.  Take a fold of fabric at your shin, fold it AWAY from the centerline of the bike and then strap that down with the ankle strap.  Don't just bunch up your pant leg and let it flare out like a tutu on the bottom.  That's still going to get into the chain.  Let me know if that's not clear, and I'll do a photo essay for you.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:13:39 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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[RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Bill Lindsay]

Leah

Regarding keeping your pants grease free:  Rivendell sells the absolute 
best ankle strap for 
conspicuity. 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/ankle-reflector-rar?_pos=1&_psq=ankle&_ss=e&_v=1.0

That legband is lousy for keeping your pants out of the chain.  The far 
better ankle band for keeping your pants out of the chain is the Aardvark 
Ankle Biters:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/303745533555 Every bike should have 
one of these wrapped around the handlebar for easy use.  It also doubles 
very well as a parking brake.  

Remember how we used to "peg" our jeans or trousers?  That's how you use an 
ankle strap.  Take a fold of fabric at your shin, fold it AWAY from the 
centerline of the bike and then strap that down with the ankle strap. 
 Don't just bunch up your pant leg and let it flare out like a tutu on the 
bottom.  That's still going to get into the chain.  Let me know if that's 
not clear, and I'll do a photo essay for you.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:13:39 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
> bike?
>
> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. 
>
> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era 
> of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding 
> boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about 
> getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>
> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I 
> really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting 
> them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack 
> for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work 
> better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, 
> well…here’s a photo. 
>
> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to 
> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, 
> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. 
> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going 
> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>
> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark 
> up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the 
> pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that 
> these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage 
> to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers 
> year-round.
>
> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do 
> you wear what you want? Do you even care? 
>
> Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m 
> not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel 
> differently if the pants were a lighter color. 
>
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[J G]

While I still kit up (to a lesser or greater extent) for bigger rides, I 
converged biking and daily wear about a dozen years ago.  Search and State 
and Mission Workshop on the kit end and brands like Outlier and Swrve along 
with Icebreaker and the original Ibex provided daily wear options that 
performed well on a bike.  Outlier generally leaning a bit more to the 
office friendly and fashion end and Swrve with more gussets and 
articulation leans to the all day on a bike side.  Added bonus is that both 
companies work with interesting high performance fabrics with Outlier 
having that at its core and Swrve generally doing special runs via their 
blk_label line.  Both companies also originally had all of their production 
in NYC and SF respectively and I try and support small businesses with 
sound ethics where I can.  Speaking of that, Kitsbow would be another 
mention as I really liked their wool Icon shirts, but they have recently 
gone under.  

Fashions change, style endures.  Keep wearing those skinny jeans and high 
boots if you like them.  Whatever gear makes a bike most accessible to you 
is the good stuff.

-Justus
Mpls, MN
On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 9:44:06 AM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:

> I empathize, Leah. Not being one for beausage in any area of life, I am 
> okay with wear and character on boots, but not with chain grease on pants.  
> You might try various ankle straps; those with velcro seem to have limited 
> effectiveness, as your experience suggest, and wear out over time. But 
> there are many others out there that may be more effective, either with an 
> extended strap mechanism or with a clip design (as seen in old British 
> films).  I'm sure you can find a design that will have you rockin' the 90s 
> grease-free!
>
> Tom (who commuted to campus by bike for years, mostly grease-free)
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:13:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
>> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
>> bike?
>>
>> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
>> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
>> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
>> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
>> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
>> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. 
>>
>> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the 
>> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall 
>> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried 
>> about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>>
>> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I 
>> really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting 
>> them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack 
>> for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work 
>> better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, 
>> well…here’s a photo. 
>>
>> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to 
>> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, 
>> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. 
>> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going 
>> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>>
>> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will 
>> mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move 
>> the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me 
>> that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the 
>> damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and 
>> sneakers year-round.
>>
>> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do 
>> you wear what you want? Do you even care? 
>>
>> Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While 
>> I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might 
>> feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Tom Goodmann]

I empathize, Leah. Not being one for beausage in any area of life, I am 
okay with wear and character on boots, but not with chain grease on pants.  
You might try various ankle straps; those with velcro seem to have limited 
effectiveness, as your experience suggest, and wear out over time. But 
there are many others out there that may be more effective, either with an 
extended strap mechanism or with a clip design (as seen in old British 
films).  I'm sure you can find a design that will have you rockin' the 90s 
grease-free!

Tom (who commuted to campus by bike for years, mostly grease-free)

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:13:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
> bike?
>
> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. 
>
> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era 
> of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding 
> boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about 
> getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>
> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I 
> really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting 
> them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack 
> for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work 
> better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, 
> well…here’s a photo. 
>
> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to 
> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, 
> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. 
> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going 
> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>
> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark 
> up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the 
> pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that 
> these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage 
> to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers 
> year-round.
>
> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do 
> you wear what you want? Do you even care? 
>
> Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m 
> not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel 
> differently if the pants were a lighter color. 
>
> Leah
>

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