[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
I have never gotten them close enough to center to make the set screws useful.I tried setting their hangers off center but that did not help. I fussed with them for a long time before throwing the hangers in the recycle box and using Paul's. I have not tried deforming the spring but I did move one to the top hole on the post. That helped. Perhaps this is a quality control issue. I have set up Dia Compe Shimano cantis and never had this much trouble. One of the things I especially like about the neo retros on my Saluki is the ability to set and easily fine tune the tension on each side independently. I took the brakes off, perhaps needlessly, in order to make packing the bike easier and so will get another shot at alignment when I get to Ca tomorrow. Thanks for all the suggestions and support. Michael On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:36:55 PM UTC-4, ted wrote: Michael, I assume you have exhausted the adjustability afforded by the set screws the springs land on. In that case don't hesitate to unhook the spring from the brake arm and push it far enough to induce some plastic deformation. Then fine tune again with the set screws. It may take some iteration, and may count as a PITA for some folks, but I have been able to get mine to sit centered with the carrier centered and the brake cable running straight. best of luck Ted On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:25:04 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: When you say you haven't had any trouble, do you mean the brakes self centered or you found a simple work around? What is it? I started with their hanger and then tossed it out and bought a Paul's moon unit. Same result - one brake rubs while the other sits far away. Putting one spring in the top hole on the post helped somewhat. I beginning to think the springs themselves must have a lot of variability. Michael On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:01:53 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote: Haven't had any troubles with them. As others have noted, I used a different hanger and Avid Tri-dangle straddles as opposed to the stock ones, as I found the small hex cable bolts easier to manage than the wrench bolts. The brakes themselves are pretty good, geometrically, aesthetically and function-wise. Nice value. KJ On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:54:52 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: I tried the 720's on my Bombadil and had no problem setting them up in a jiffy. there is nothing wrong with the brakes themselves, it's only the stock hanger that is worthless. Just use a regular ol' hanger, the basic ones . If you don't have one handy, any bike shop worthy of being called one should have them new or in the parts bin. I have used canti's since the early 80's and have found the small, basic cable carriers work best. The wider one's are not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
I've found that not all frames have perfectly equidistant braze ons also, so this may or may not come into play here. This is why I prefer the the post style cantilevers as they offer more adjustment . Really though, it sounds like you need a break from either the 720's or the bike or whatever. What I do when find myself struggling is just drop it and laugh at it's absurdity ! I'm getting frustrated over what ? ? Not worth it ! So ... I say to myself ... this is silly ... I Know How To Do This and guess what the solution always comes quickly. When you're in a state of struggle , the solutions are still right there, but you're blind to it from the self created tornado... lol.No Tornado is greater than I ,the one who elicited it ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
the 720 cantis http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/brc1.htm On Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:10:43 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: What kinda Tektro's? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
I tried the 720's on my Bombadil and had no problem setting them up in a jiffy. there is nothing wrong with the brakes themselves, it's only the stock hanger that is worthless. Just use a regular ol' hanger, the basic ones . If you don't have one handy, any bike shop worthy of being called one should have them new or in the parts bin. I have used canti's since the early 80's and have found the small, basic cable carriers work best. The wider one's are not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
I haven't worked with the Paul brakes though they look great. I put the 720's on my MB5 and recently transferred them to my Atlantis... The double screw is a bit of a pain and my brakes aren't currently centered right but they do so the bike and feel very good. Given the price difference and the availability of alternative cable hangers I'm willing to cut then some slack... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
Haven't had any troubles with them. As others have noted, I used a different hanger and Avid Tri-dangle straddles as opposed to the stock ones, as I found the small hex cable bolts easier to manage than the wrench bolts. The brakes themselves are pretty good, geometrically, aesthetically and function-wise. Nice value. KJ On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:54:52 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: I tried the 720's on my Bombadil and had no problem setting them up in a jiffy. there is nothing wrong with the brakes themselves, it's only the stock hanger that is worthless. Just use a regular ol' hanger, the basic ones . If you don't have one handy, any bike shop worthy of being called one should have them new or in the parts bin. I have used canti's since the early 80's and have found the small, basic cable carriers work best. The wider one's are not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
When you say you haven't had any trouble, do you mean the brakes self centered or you found a simple work around? What is it? I started with their hanger and then tossed it out and bought a Paul's moon unit. Same result - one brake rubs while the other sits far away. Putting one spring in the top hole on the post helped somewhat. I beginning to think the springs themselves must have a lot of variability. Michael On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:01:53 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote: Haven't had any troubles with them. As others have noted, I used a different hanger and Avid Tri-dangle straddles as opposed to the stock ones, as I found the small hex cable bolts easier to manage than the wrench bolts. The brakes themselves are pretty good, geometrically, aesthetically and function-wise. Nice value. KJ On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:54:52 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: I tried the 720's on my Bombadil and had no problem setting them up in a jiffy. there is nothing wrong with the brakes themselves, it's only the stock hanger that is worthless. Just use a regular ol' hanger, the basic ones . If you don't have one handy, any bike shop worthy of being called one should have them new or in the parts bin. I have used canti's since the early 80's and have found the small, basic cable carriers work best. The wider one's are not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
In using the regular ol' cheap straddle carriers, I've always found a nudge to the left or right works just fine and it stays in place , without the need for any thing to lock it into place, as the Tektro carriers do. My fav canti's are Original Deore BR-MC70, which have no tensioning at all, but using the nudge method they were always centered. It doesn't matter if the carrier is off center to the left or right a little. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4076/4859711871_96e29bbaea_b.jpg Here's what I mean about being slightly off center with the carrier . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
Michael - I am surprised at your problems with the 720s. My 720s set up easier than any canti's I have used, and I bought them at the recommendation of a friend that had just put them on two bikes. I haven't used Paul's, but compared to the Dia Compe and Shimano's that I have experience with, the 720s were great. Self- centered with just a nudge as Garth mentions, and then I tightened the carrier - never budged. My experience may be unique, unlike a number of the comments you have received, I like the adjustability of the Tektro carrier so much I bought another set to see if they would held me adjust the always frustrating Dia Compe's on my wife's MB3. They worked great. The diverse experiences of the group with the 720s remind me again why we have the range of components that we do - something for everyone. Good luck! On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: When you say you haven't had any trouble, do you mean the brakes self centered or you found a simple work around? What is it? I started with their hanger and then tossed it out and bought a Paul's moon unit. Same result - one brake rubs while the other sits far away. Putting one spring in the top hole on the post helped somewhat. I beginning to think the springs themselves must have a lot of variability. Michael On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:01:53 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote: Haven't had any troubles with them. As others have noted, I used a different hanger and Avid Tri-dangle straddles as opposed to the stock ones, as I found the small hex cable bolts easier to manage than the wrench bolts. The brakes themselves are pretty good, geometrically, aesthetically and function-wise. Nice value. KJ On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:54:52 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: I tried the 720's on my Bombadil and had no problem setting them up in a jiffy. there is nothing wrong with the brakes themselves, it's only the stock hanger that is worthless. Just use a regular ol' hanger, the basic ones . If you don't have one handy, any bike shop worthy of being called one should have them new or in the parts bin. I have used canti's since the early 80's and have found the small, basic cable carriers work best. The wider one's are not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
Michael, I assume you have exhausted the adjustability afforded by the set screws the springs land on. In that case don't hesitate to unhook the spring from the brake arm and push it far enough to induce some plastic deformation. Then fine tune again with the set screws. It may take some iteration, and may count as a PITA for some folks, but I have been able to get mine to sit centered with the carrier centered and the brake cable running straight. best of luck Ted On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:25:04 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: When you say you haven't had any trouble, do you mean the brakes self centered or you found a simple work around? What is it? I started with their hanger and then tossed it out and bought a Paul's moon unit. Same result - one brake rubs while the other sits far away. Putting one spring in the top hole on the post helped somewhat. I beginning to think the springs themselves must have a lot of variability. Michael On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:01:53 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote: Haven't had any troubles with them. As others have noted, I used a different hanger and Avid Tri-dangle straddles as opposed to the stock ones, as I found the small hex cable bolts easier to manage than the wrench bolts. The brakes themselves are pretty good, geometrically, aesthetically and function-wise. Nice value. KJ On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:54:52 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: I tried the 720's on my Bombadil and had no problem setting them up in a jiffy. there is nothing wrong with the brakes themselves, it's only the stock hanger that is worthless. Just use a regular ol' hanger, the basic ones . If you don't have one handy, any bike shop worthy of being called one should have them new or in the parts bin. I have used canti's since the early 80's and have found the small, basic cable carriers work best. The wider one's are not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
Have you tried the spring tension adjustment screw? It's located on both arms of the cantilever brake-- I saw my LBS do it on another bike. (I've not had a centering problem with the 720s. Brake squeal OTOH) On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:29:31 PM UTC-4, Robert Barr wrote: Michael - I am surprised at your problems with the 720s. My 720s set up easier than any canti's I have used, and I bought them at the recommendation of a friend that had just put them on two bikes. I haven't used Paul's, but compared to the Dia Compe and Shimano's that I have experience with, the 720s were great. Self- centered with just a nudge as Garth mentions, and then I tightened the carrier - never budged. My experience may be unique, unlike a number of the comments you have received, I like the adjustability of the Tektro carrier so much I bought another set to see if they would held me adjust the always frustrating Dia Compe's on my wife's MB3. They worked great. The diverse experiences of the group with the 720s remind me again why we have the range of components that we do - something for everyone. Good luck! On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: When you say you haven't had any trouble, do you mean the brakes self centered or you found a simple work around? What is it? I started with their hanger and then tossed it out and bought a Paul's moon unit. Same result - one brake rubs while the other sits far away. Putting one spring in the top hole on the post helped somewhat. I beginning to think the springs themselves must have a lot of variability. Michael On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:01:53 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote: Haven't had any troubles with them. As others have noted, I used a different hanger and Avid Tri-dangle straddles as opposed to the stock ones, as I found the small hex cable bolts easier to manage than the wrench bolts. The brakes themselves are pretty good, geometrically, aesthetically and function-wise. Nice value. KJ On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:54:52 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: I tried the 720's on my Bombadil and had no problem setting them up in a jiffy. there is nothing wrong with the brakes themselves, it's only the stock hanger that is worthless. Just use a regular ol' hanger, the basic ones . If you don't have one handy, any bike shop worthy of being called one should have them new or in the parts bin. I have used canti's since the early 80's and have found the small, basic cable carriers work best. The wider one's are not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
The brakes have self-centred, or close to it. I'm a big fan of the locking down the straddle dangle thingy, even if it is off-centre on the vertical plane. I think that's the point of the design. KJ On Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:25:04 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: When you say you haven't had any trouble, do you mean the brakes self centered or you found a simple work around? What is it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
What kinda Tektro's? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
