Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Jim Kramka]

Thanks, Bill. I'm not ready to give up just yet. Originally, I built up the
Soma with Tektros and they were okay but I did not like their aesthetic and
how they stuck out so far from the frame. The Herse are much more compact
and elegant. So I'll buckle down and work through my troubleshooting
checklist.

Jim

On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 11:23 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Jim
>
> My assumption from the start was that given how not-adjustable Rene Herse
> Cantilevers are, the ONLY way I'd even start was on a frame built by a
> builder who builds frames for these brakes, and who knows those are the
> brakes I'm going to use.  Given the degree of difficulty I experienced, I
> will not be backing off that assumption.
>
> My protocol for these brakes on a Soma would be to first look it over in
> my work stand for a good long while and decide whether the whole thing is
> pointless.  After I've looked it over in my stand for a good long while and
> decided that it's likely going to work, then I'd have to ride the bike and
> hear what noise(s) we're dealing with.  Different subsystems have different
> resonant frequencies and give audible clues for what to do next.
>
> As I said with my bike, one significant mechanical move was to change the
> rims.
>
> I don't know if that helps
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 4:35:02 PM UTC-8 Jim Kramka wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Congrats on dialing in the Rene Herse cantilevers. I have a pair on a
>> Soma Grand Randonneur that squeals. I'd love to know what your protocol was
>> for getting rid of the squeal. I have some ideas but haven't reserved the
>> time to try them out. I'm pretty certain that front-to-back toe-in isn't
>> the issue but maybe it's the top-to-bottom angle at which the pad presses
>> against the rim.
>>
>> Enjoy the ride!
>>
>> Jim in Tennessee
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 1:31 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> A few weeks late, I've managed to get out on a couple "shake down" rides
>>> on the RoadeoRosa.  I normally don't need "shake down" rides because my
>>> process of pulling builds together has gotten pretty dialed.  This one was
>>> a lot more challenging because of the brakes set up.  I had never used Rene
>>> Herse Cantilevers and I was experimenting with fancy wheels that are
>>> purported to yield superior braking performance.  The shake down rides were
>>> aimed at hideous brake squeal.  These Rene Herse brakes are super powerful
>>> and super light, but their design is super simple which means they are not
>>> "adjustable" in the traditional sense.  You can do things but it's a
>>> process where you want to go very slowly in very small steps, and avoid
>>> having to un-do anything.  The stakes are high.  Anyway, I plodded through
>>> with successful results and came out the other side, learning a few things
>>> on the way.  At least for now, that fancy wheel set with the special
>>> braking surface is set aside to try on a caliper brake bike.
>>>
>>> I think next weekend, the 16th or 17th, I'll do Mount Diablo Summit #3
>>> for the year, and there's no reason not to do it on the RoadeoRosa.  This
>>> weekend I'm doing a 300k on a different bike.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 4:09:57 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 They are the 700c smooth ones intended for 30-34mm tires.  The fender
 lines are indeed pretty good.  Not totally perfect but close.

 BL in EC

 On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 2:13:04 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak,
 Woodstown NJ wrote:

> Bill
>
> What width RH fenders are you using???  They look to be the Smooth
> style.
>
> The front and rear fender lines are excellent
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.
>> Legolas fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.
>> TPU tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm
>> bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R
>> Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and
>> housing.  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake
>> levers (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00
>> saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene
>> Herse pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Russell Duncan]

I like Bill’s description of a mechanical varsity maneuver for setting up cantilevers. It took me forever back in the day to set up Mafac cantilevers on my Alan cyclocross bike. Trial and error and you may work out how to do it. In my experience with cantilever brakes at present  (n=1 bike), I set my Surly Cross Check at first with Avid Shorties. They were noisy especially when they got wet. I then tried V-brakes (something made by Shimano), which were spongy. Maybe I used the wrong levers and I can’t remember which ones. I finally went with Paul Mini-Moto brakes with a stroke adapter. This I did when I decided to use Campagnolo brifters. Paul did an excellent job in designing those, and even though they say they’ll work with Campagnolo levers, they were soft in my experience, finally engaging as the levers were near bottoming out. So, I installed the stroke adapters, which worked like a charm. They are not aesthetically appealing but they worked. Russell DuncanOn Mar 9, 2024, at 00:26, Bill Lindsay  wrote:If you gave up on them and consider yourself an inept mechanic, then I think you've probably made the right decision.  Setting these brakes up is a varsity maneuver.  BLOn Friday, March 8, 2024 at 6:05:32 PM UTC-8 Robert Blunt wrote:Bill, I would also love to know. I recently gave up on mine and opted for Paul cantis because of the squeal. I just couldnt figure out how to dial them in but I am also a pretty inept mechanic.Best,Rob BluntOn Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 7:35 PM Jim Kramka  wrote:Hi Bill,Congrats on dialing in the Rene Herse cantilevers. I have a pair on a Soma Grand Randonneur that squeals. I'd love to know what your protocol was for getting rid of the squeal. I have some ideas but haven't reserved the time to try them out. I'm pretty certain that front-to-back toe-in isn't the issue but maybe it's the top-to-bottom angle at which the pad presses against the rim.Enjoy the ride!Jim in TennesseeOn Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 1:31 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:A few weeks late, I've managed to get out on a couple "shake down" rides on the RoadeoRosa.  I normally don't need "shake down" rides because my process of pulling builds together has gotten pretty dialed.  This one was a lot more challenging because of the brakes set up.  I had never used Rene Herse Cantilevers and I was experimenting with fancy wheels that are purported to yield superior braking performance.  The shake down rides were aimed at hideous brake squeal.  These Rene Herse brakes are super powerful and super light, but their design is super simple which means they are not "adjustable" in the traditional sense.  You can do things but it's a process where you want to go very slowly in very small steps, and avoid having to un-do anything.  The stakes are high.  Anyway, I plodded through with successful results and came out the other side, learning a few things on the way.  At least for now, that fancy wheel set with the special braking surface is set aside to try on a caliper brake bike.  I think next weekend, the 16th or 17th, I'll do Mount Diablo Summit #3 for the year, and there's no reason not to do it on the RoadeoRosa.  This weekend I'm doing a 300k on a different bike.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 4:09:57 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:They are the 700c smooth ones intended for 30-34mm tires.  The fender lines are indeed pretty good.  Not totally perfect but close. BL in ECOn Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 2:13:04 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ wrote:BillWhat width RH fenders are you using???  They look to be the Smooth style.The front and rear fender lines are excellentJohn HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is completehttps://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headsetWheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewersDrivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chainComponents:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing.  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddleAccessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front racktotal weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kgBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CA



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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Bill Lindsay]

If you gave up on them and consider yourself an inept mechanic, then I 
think you've probably made the right decision.  Setting these brakes up is 
a varsity maneuver.  

BL

On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 6:05:32 PM UTC-8 Robert Blunt wrote:

> Bill, I would also love to know. I recently gave up on mine and opted for 
> Paul cantis because of the squeal. I just couldnt figure out how to dial 
> them in but I am also a pretty inept mechanic.
> Best,
> Rob Blunt
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 7:35 PM Jim Kramka  wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Congrats on dialing in the Rene Herse cantilevers. I have a pair on a 
>> Soma Grand Randonneur that squeals. I'd love to know what your protocol was 
>> for getting rid of the squeal. I have some ideas but haven't reserved the 
>> time to try them out. I'm pretty certain that front-to-back toe-in isn't 
>> the issue but maybe it's the top-to-bottom angle at which the pad presses 
>> against the rim.
>>
>> Enjoy the ride!
>>
>> Jim in Tennessee
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 1:31 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> A few weeks late, I've managed to get out on a couple "shake down" rides 
>>> on the RoadeoRosa.  I normally don't need "shake down" rides because my 
>>> process of pulling builds together has gotten pretty dialed.  This one was 
>>> a lot more challenging because of the brakes set up.  I had never used Rene 
>>> Herse Cantilevers and I was experimenting with fancy wheels that are 
>>> purported to yield superior braking performance.  The shake down rides were 
>>> aimed at hideous brake squeal.  These Rene Herse brakes are super powerful 
>>> and super light, but their design is super simple which means they are not 
>>> "adjustable" in the traditional sense.  You can do things but it's a 
>>> process where you want to go very slowly in very small steps, and avoid 
>>> having to un-do anything.  The stakes are high.  Anyway, I plodded through 
>>> with successful results and came out the other side, learning a few things 
>>> on the way.  At least for now, that fancy wheel set with the special 
>>> braking surface is set aside to try on a caliper brake bike.  
>>>
>>> I think next weekend, the 16th or 17th, I'll do Mount Diablo Summit #3 
>>> for the year, and there's no reason not to do it on the RoadeoRosa.  This 
>>> weekend I'm doing a 300k on a different bike.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 4:09:57 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 They are the 700c smooth ones intended for 30-34mm tires.  The fender 
 lines are indeed pretty good.  Not totally perfect but close. 

 BL in EC

 On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 2:13:04 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak, 
 Woodstown NJ wrote:

> Bill
>
> What width RH fenders are you using???  They look to be the Smooth 
> style.
>
> The front and rear fender lines are excellent
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  
>> Legolas fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  
>> TPU tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm 
>> bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R 
>> Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and 
>> housing.  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS 
>> brake 
>> levers (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 
>> saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene 
>> Herse pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Bill Lindsay]

Jim

My assumption from the start was that given how not-adjustable Rene Herse 
Cantilevers are, the ONLY way I'd even start was on a frame built by a 
builder who builds frames for these brakes, and who knows those are the 
brakes I'm going to use.  Given the degree of difficulty I experienced, I 
will not be backing off that assumption.  

My protocol for these brakes on a Soma would be to first look it over in my 
work stand for a good long while and decide whether the whole thing is 
pointless.  After I've looked it over in my stand for a good long while and 
decided that it's likely going to work, then I'd have to ride the bike and 
hear what noise(s) we're dealing with.  Different subsystems have different 
resonant frequencies and give audible clues for what to do next.  

As I said with my bike, one significant mechanical move was to change the 
rims.  

I don't know if that helps

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 4:35:02 PM UTC-8 Jim Kramka wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> Congrats on dialing in the Rene Herse cantilevers. I have a pair on a Soma 
> Grand Randonneur that squeals. I'd love to know what your protocol was for 
> getting rid of the squeal. I have some ideas but haven't reserved the time 
> to try them out. I'm pretty certain that front-to-back toe-in isn't the 
> issue but maybe it's the top-to-bottom angle at which the pad presses 
> against the rim.
>
> Enjoy the ride!
>
> Jim in Tennessee
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 1:31 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> A few weeks late, I've managed to get out on a couple "shake down" rides 
>> on the RoadeoRosa.  I normally don't need "shake down" rides because my 
>> process of pulling builds together has gotten pretty dialed.  This one was 
>> a lot more challenging because of the brakes set up.  I had never used Rene 
>> Herse Cantilevers and I was experimenting with fancy wheels that are 
>> purported to yield superior braking performance.  The shake down rides were 
>> aimed at hideous brake squeal.  These Rene Herse brakes are super powerful 
>> and super light, but their design is super simple which means they are not 
>> "adjustable" in the traditional sense.  You can do things but it's a 
>> process where you want to go very slowly in very small steps, and avoid 
>> having to un-do anything.  The stakes are high.  Anyway, I plodded through 
>> with successful results and came out the other side, learning a few things 
>> on the way.  At least for now, that fancy wheel set with the special 
>> braking surface is set aside to try on a caliper brake bike.  
>>
>> I think next weekend, the 16th or 17th, I'll do Mount Diablo Summit #3 
>> for the year, and there's no reason not to do it on the RoadeoRosa.  This 
>> weekend I'm doing a 300k on a different bike.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 4:09:57 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> They are the 700c smooth ones intended for 30-34mm tires.  The fender 
>>> lines are indeed pretty good.  Not totally perfect but close. 
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 2:13:04 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak, 
>>> Woodstown NJ wrote:
>>>
 Bill

 What width RH fenders are you using???  They look to be the Smooth 
 style.

 The front and rear fender lines are excellent

 John Hawrylak
 Woodstown NJ

 On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>
> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  
> Legolas fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>
> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  
> TPU tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>
> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm 
> bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R 
> Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain
>
> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and 
> housing.  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake 
> levers (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 
> saddle
>
> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene 
> Herse pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>
> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Robert Blunt]

Bill, I would also love to know. I recently gave up on mine and opted for
Paul cantis because of the squeal. I just couldnt figure out how to dial
them in but I am also a pretty inept mechanic.
Best,
Rob Blunt

On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 7:35 PM Jim Kramka  wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> Congrats on dialing in the Rene Herse cantilevers. I have a pair on a Soma
> Grand Randonneur that squeals. I'd love to know what your protocol was for
> getting rid of the squeal. I have some ideas but haven't reserved the time
> to try them out. I'm pretty certain that front-to-back toe-in isn't the
> issue but maybe it's the top-to-bottom angle at which the pad presses
> against the rim.
>
> Enjoy the ride!
>
> Jim in Tennessee
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 1:31 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> A few weeks late, I've managed to get out on a couple "shake down" rides
>> on the RoadeoRosa.  I normally don't need "shake down" rides because my
>> process of pulling builds together has gotten pretty dialed.  This one was
>> a lot more challenging because of the brakes set up.  I had never used Rene
>> Herse Cantilevers and I was experimenting with fancy wheels that are
>> purported to yield superior braking performance.  The shake down rides were
>> aimed at hideous brake squeal.  These Rene Herse brakes are super powerful
>> and super light, but their design is super simple which means they are not
>> "adjustable" in the traditional sense.  You can do things but it's a
>> process where you want to go very slowly in very small steps, and avoid
>> having to un-do anything.  The stakes are high.  Anyway, I plodded through
>> with successful results and came out the other side, learning a few things
>> on the way.  At least for now, that fancy wheel set with the special
>> braking surface is set aside to try on a caliper brake bike.
>>
>> I think next weekend, the 16th or 17th, I'll do Mount Diablo Summit #3
>> for the year, and there's no reason not to do it on the RoadeoRosa.  This
>> weekend I'm doing a 300k on a different bike.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 4:09:57 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> They are the 700c smooth ones intended for 30-34mm tires.  The fender
>>> lines are indeed pretty good.  Not totally perfect but close.
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 2:13:04 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak,
>>> Woodstown NJ wrote:
>>>
 Bill

 What width RH fenders are you using???  They look to be the Smooth
 style.

 The front and rear fender lines are excellent

 John Hawrylak
 Woodstown NJ

 On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>
> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.
> Legolas fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>
> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.
> TPU tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>
> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm
> bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R
> Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain
>
> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and
> housing.  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake
> levers (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00
> saddle
>
> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene
> Herse pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>
> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Jim Kramka]

Hi Bill,

Congrats on dialing in the Rene Herse cantilevers. I have a pair on a Soma
Grand Randonneur that squeals. I'd love to know what your protocol was for
getting rid of the squeal. I have some ideas but haven't reserved the time
to try them out. I'm pretty certain that front-to-back toe-in isn't the
issue but maybe it's the top-to-bottom angle at which the pad presses
against the rim.

Enjoy the ride!

Jim in Tennessee

On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 1:31 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> A few weeks late, I've managed to get out on a couple "shake down" rides
> on the RoadeoRosa.  I normally don't need "shake down" rides because my
> process of pulling builds together has gotten pretty dialed.  This one was
> a lot more challenging because of the brakes set up.  I had never used Rene
> Herse Cantilevers and I was experimenting with fancy wheels that are
> purported to yield superior braking performance.  The shake down rides were
> aimed at hideous brake squeal.  These Rene Herse brakes are super powerful
> and super light, but their design is super simple which means they are not
> "adjustable" in the traditional sense.  You can do things but it's a
> process where you want to go very slowly in very small steps, and avoid
> having to un-do anything.  The stakes are high.  Anyway, I plodded through
> with successful results and came out the other side, learning a few things
> on the way.  At least for now, that fancy wheel set with the special
> braking surface is set aside to try on a caliper brake bike.
>
> I think next weekend, the 16th or 17th, I'll do Mount Diablo Summit #3 for
> the year, and there's no reason not to do it on the RoadeoRosa.  This
> weekend I'm doing a 300k on a different bike.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 4:09:57 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> They are the 700c smooth ones intended for 30-34mm tires.  The fender
>> lines are indeed pretty good.  Not totally perfect but close.
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 2:13:04 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak, Woodstown
>> NJ wrote:
>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> What width RH fenders are you using???  They look to be the Smooth style.
>>>
>>> The front and rear fender lines are excellent
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/

 Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.
 Legolas fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset

 Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU
 tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers

 Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm
 bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R
 Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain

 Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing.
 Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers
 (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle

 Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene
 Herse pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack

 total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Bill Lindsay]

A few weeks late, I've managed to get out on a couple "shake down" rides on 
the RoadeoRosa.  I normally don't need "shake down" rides because my 
process of pulling builds together has gotten pretty dialed.  This one was 
a lot more challenging because of the brakes set up.  I had never used Rene 
Herse Cantilevers and I was experimenting with fancy wheels that are 
purported to yield superior braking performance.  The shake down rides were 
aimed at hideous brake squeal.  These Rene Herse brakes are super powerful 
and super light, but their design is super simple which means they are not 
"adjustable" in the traditional sense.  You can do things but it's a 
process where you want to go very slowly in very small steps, and avoid 
having to un-do anything.  The stakes are high.  Anyway, I plodded through 
with successful results and came out the other side, learning a few things 
on the way.  At least for now, that fancy wheel set with the special 
braking surface is set aside to try on a caliper brake bike.  

I think next weekend, the 16th or 17th, I'll do Mount Diablo Summit #3 for 
the year, and there's no reason not to do it on the RoadeoRosa.  This 
weekend I'm doing a 300k on a different bike.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 4:09:57 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> They are the 700c smooth ones intended for 30-34mm tires.  The fender 
> lines are indeed pretty good.  Not totally perfect but close. 
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 2:13:04 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak, Woodstown 
> NJ wrote:
>
>> Bill
>>
>> What width RH fenders are you using???  They look to be the Smooth style.
>>
>> The front and rear fender lines are excellent
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>>
>>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
>>> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>>
>>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
>>> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>>
>>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm 
>>> bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R 
>>> Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>>
>>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>>>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
>>> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>>>
>>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
>>> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>>
>>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Bill Lindsay]

They are the 700c smooth ones intended for 30-34mm tires.  The fender lines 
are indeed pretty good.  Not totally perfect but close. 

BL in EC

On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 2:13:04 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak, Woodstown 
NJ wrote:

> Bill
>
> What width RH fenders are you using???  They look to be the Smooth style.
>
> The front and rear fender lines are excellent
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
>> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
>> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
>> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
>> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
>> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
>> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

['John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bill

What width RH fenders are you using???  They look to be the Smooth style.

The front and rear fender lines are excellent

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>
> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>
> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>
> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>
> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>
> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>
> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[R. Alexis]

Bill,

That bikes looks nice!! I personally prefer canits over calipers for 
brakes. My "Road Bike" is my 1987 Schwinn Voyageur touring bike. I do have 
some actual road bikes with caliper brakes, but prefer cantis. The pink 
color really looks good. Didn't realize the Rene Herse brakes were that 
finicky. I thought they employed a wedge washer or something to set the toe 
in. 

On an unrelated note, really enjoy seeing some of your machining and other 
projects. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 9:51:48 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I'm running that swank wraparound assymmetric Nobilette stem on three 
> bikes.  :)
>
> Updated photos in the album in full sunlight!
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003/
>
> Scroll to the end for the newest ones
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 4:23:06 PM UTC-8 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Rhodochrosite pink? (MnCO3). I particularly enjoy the stem, with the stem 
>> clamp bolt to one side. 
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 7:54:37 PM UTC-8 Steve wrote:
>>
>>> I say it's OK to geek out over bikes - especially if it's a unique 
>>> Rivendell.  
>>>
>>> Steve in Asheville --- Waiting for the official photo shoot glamour 
>>> pics. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 10:41:11 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>
 *"Those who do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a 
 story narrated here."*

 So well said Andy.  It doesn't necessarily make us geeks, Maybe 
 curators?

 Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.

 On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:31:40 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> What a build Bill. 
>
> I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke 
> bits that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for 
> particular bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above 
> discrete 
> makes the bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record 
> of your riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. 
> Those who do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story 
> narrated here.
>
> I get it!
>
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts. 
>>  Legolas fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires. 
>>  TPU tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm 
>> bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R 
>> Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and 
>> housing.  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS 
>> brake 
>> levers (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 
>> saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene 
>> Herse pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Bill Lindsay]

I'm running that swank wraparound assymmetric Nobilette stem on three 
bikes.  :)

Updated photos in the album in full sunlight!

https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003/

Scroll to the end for the newest ones

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 4:23:06 PM UTC-8 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Rhodochrosite pink? (MnCO3). I particularly enjoy the stem, with the stem 
> clamp bolt to one side. 
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 7:54:37 PM UTC-8 Steve wrote:
>
>> I say it's OK to geek out over bikes - especially if it's a unique 
>> Rivendell.  
>>
>> Steve in Asheville --- Waiting for the official photo shoot glamour pics. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 10:41:11 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> *"Those who do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a 
>>> story narrated here."*
>>>
>>> So well said Andy.  It doesn't necessarily make us geeks, Maybe curators?
>>>
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:31:40 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 What a build Bill. 

 I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke 
 bits that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for 
 particular bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above 
 discrete 
 makes the bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record 
 of your riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. 
 Those who do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story 
 narrated here.

 I get it!


 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
 On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>
> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts. 
>  Legolas fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>
> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires. 
>  TPU tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>
> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm 
> bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R 
> Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain
>
> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>
> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene 
> Herse pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>
> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>


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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Mike Godwin]

Rhodochrosite pink? (MnCO3). I particularly enjoy the stem, with the stem 
clamp bolt to one side. 

Mike SLO CA

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 7:54:37 PM UTC-8 Steve wrote:

> I say it's OK to geek out over bikes - especially if it's a unique 
> Rivendell.  
>
> Steve in Asheville --- Waiting for the official photo shoot glamour pics. 
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 10:41:11 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> *"Those who do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a 
>> story narrated here."*
>>
>> So well said Andy.  It doesn't necessarily make us geeks, Maybe curators?
>>
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:31:40 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> What a build Bill. 
>>>
>>> I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke bits 
>>> that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for particular 
>>> bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above discrete makes the 
>>> bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record of your 
>>> riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. Those who 
>>> do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story narrated 
>>> here.
>>>
>>> I get it!
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/

 Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts. 
  Legolas fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset

 Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
 tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers

 Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm 
 bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R 
 Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain

 Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
 (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle

 Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene 
 Herse pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack

 total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

>>>

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Steve]

I say it's OK to geek out over bikes - especially if it's a unique 
Rivendell.  

Steve in Asheville --- Waiting for the official photo shoot glamour pics. 

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 10:41:11 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> *"Those who do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a 
> story narrated here."*
>
> So well said Andy.  It doesn't necessarily make us geeks, Maybe curators?
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:31:40 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> What a build Bill. 
>>
>> I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke bits 
>> that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for particular 
>> bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above discrete makes the 
>> bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record of your 
>> riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. Those who 
>> do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story narrated 
>> here.
>>
>> I get it!
>>
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>>
>>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
>>> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>>
>>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
>>> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>>
>>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm 
>>> bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R 
>>> Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>>
>>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>>>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
>>> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>>>
>>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
>>> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>>
>>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

*"Those who do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story 
narrated here."*

So well said Andy.  It doesn't necessarily make us geeks, Maybe curators?

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:31:40 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> What a build Bill. 
>
> I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke bits 
> that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for particular 
> bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above discrete makes the 
> bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record of your 
> riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. Those who 
> do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story narrated 
> here.
>
> I get it!
>
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
>> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
>> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
>> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
>> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
>> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
>> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

['John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bill

Stunning color, the pink fenders really look overpowering.  The white on 
the bottom of the front fender really stands out.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ 

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>
> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>
> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>
> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>
> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>
> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>
> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Bill Lindsay]

It's close, but not quite.  I was going for more of a mineral pink.  

Drunk tank pink is hex  #FF91AF
Mine is   #D7A0A6

Put them side by side on an online color comparator website and drunk tank 
pink looks like candy and my pink looks more like a rock.  Or maybe like a 
floral pink compared to a succulent pink.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 1:08:20 PM UTC-8 Jay Lonner wrote:

> To me it looks like Baker-Miller pink, aka “Drunk Tank Pink:”
>
> Baker-Miller pink 
> en.wikipedia.org 
> [image: wikipedia.png]  
> 
>
> Maybe Bill is seeking to deescalate road rage?
>
> I’m in the process of having a custom built, and the paint scheme is an 
> homage to my old 1968 VW Beetle in Royal Red. The bike is decidedly un-Riv 
> though (one might even say anti-Riv) so maybe not appropriate for further 
> discussion in this forum.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Feb 20, 2024, at 12:58 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>
> It took me a while to figure out the color scheme on this bike, but it 
> finally dawned on my aging memory cells.  It's the same colors of Good N' 
> Plenty candy!
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 12:44:02 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Toshi
>>
>> The strange backstory is that I was thinking of a pink bike for a LONG 
>> time.  One of the saddle models that just works for me is the Fizik Arione, 
>> and there's a great market for them on ebay because they come in colors 
>> that don't work on many bikes, so they are cheap as hell second hand.  I 
>> stumbled across one in the Rapha Cycle Club 'colorway', which is 
>> pink/white/black.  I bought the saddle and commited that I would paint the 
>> Roadeo to match the saddle!  Subsequently, as the frame delayed and 
>> delayed, I slowly was acquiring lighter and lighter stuff for the build.  I 
>> knew I could get close to 20 pounds WITH fenders, front rack, bell, pump, 
>> and pedals, so I spent big bucks on the Arione 00 saddle to drop another 90 
>> grams.  I still have the pink, white and black saddle, but it's on a yellow 
>> bike now.  Yuck!
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> P.S. there is no good shade of pink cloth handlebar tape.  Newbaums used 
>> to have a nice pale pink, but no more.  Boo!
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 10:23:56 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>
>>> You did follow Rule 8!  It's not too late to switch to the pink and blue 
>>> harlequin bar tape :).  
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Jay Lonner]

To me it looks like Baker-Miller pink, aka “Drunk Tank Pink:”Baker-Miller pinken.wikipedia.orgMaybe Bill is seeking to deescalate road rage?I’m in the process of having a custom built, and the paint scheme is an homage to my old 1968 VW Beetle in Royal Red. The bike is decidedly un-Riv though (one might even say anti-Riv) so maybe not appropriate for further discussion in this forum.Jay LonnerBellingham, WASent from my Atari 400On Feb 20, 2024, at 12:58 PM, George Schick  wrote:It took me a while to figure out the color scheme on this bike, but it finally dawned on my aging memory cells.  It's the same colors of Good N' Plenty candy!On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 12:44:02 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:ToshiThe strange backstory is that I was thinking of a pink bike for a LONG time.  One of the saddle models that just works for me is the Fizik Arione, and there's a great market for them on ebay because they come in colors that don't work on many bikes, so they are cheap as hell second hand.  I stumbled across one in the Rapha Cycle Club 'colorway', which is pink/white/black.  I bought the saddle and commited that I would paint the Roadeo to match the saddle!  Subsequently, as the frame delayed and delayed, I slowly was acquiring lighter and lighter stuff for the build.  I knew I could get close to 20 pounds WITH fenders, front rack, bell, pump, and pedals, so I spent big bucks on the Arione 00 saddle to drop another 90 grams.  I still have the pink, white and black saddle, but it's on a yellow bike now.  Yuck!Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAP.S. there is no good shade of pink cloth handlebar tape.  Newbaums used to have a nice pale pink, but no more.  Boo!On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 10:23:56 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:You did follow Rule 8!  It's not too late to switch to the pink and blue harlequin bar tape :).  Toshi




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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[George Schick]

It took me a while to figure out the color scheme on this bike, but it 
finally dawned on my aging memory cells.  It's the same colors of Good N' 
Plenty candy!
On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 12:44:02 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Toshi
>
> The strange backstory is that I was thinking of a pink bike for a LONG 
> time.  One of the saddle models that just works for me is the Fizik Arione, 
> and there's a great market for them on ebay because they come in colors 
> that don't work on many bikes, so they are cheap as hell second hand.  I 
> stumbled across one in the Rapha Cycle Club 'colorway', which is 
> pink/white/black.  I bought the saddle and commited that I would paint the 
> Roadeo to match the saddle!  Subsequently, as the frame delayed and 
> delayed, I slowly was acquiring lighter and lighter stuff for the build.  I 
> knew I could get close to 20 pounds WITH fenders, front rack, bell, pump, 
> and pedals, so I spent big bucks on the Arione 00 saddle to drop another 90 
> grams.  I still have the pink, white and black saddle, but it's on a yellow 
> bike now.  Yuck!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> P.S. there is no good shade of pink cloth handlebar tape.  Newbaums used 
> to have a nice pale pink, but no more.  Boo!
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 10:23:56 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> You did follow Rule 8!  It's not too late to switch to the pink and blue 
>> harlequin bar tape :).  
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Matthew Rebmann]

What a stunner!

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 1:44:02 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Toshi
>
> The strange backstory is that I was thinking of a pink bike for a LONG 
> time.  One of the saddle models that just works for me is the Fizik Arione, 
> and there's a great market for them on ebay because they come in colors 
> that don't work on many bikes, so they are cheap as hell second hand.  I 
> stumbled across one in the Rapha Cycle Club 'colorway', which is 
> pink/white/black.  I bought the saddle and commited that I would paint the 
> Roadeo to match the saddle!  Subsequently, as the frame delayed and 
> delayed, I slowly was acquiring lighter and lighter stuff for the build.  I 
> knew I could get close to 20 pounds WITH fenders, front rack, bell, pump, 
> and pedals, so I spent big bucks on the Arione 00 saddle to drop another 90 
> grams.  I still have the pink, white and black saddle, but it's on a yellow 
> bike now.  Yuck!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> P.S. there is no good shade of pink cloth handlebar tape.  Newbaums used 
> to have a nice pale pink, but no more.  Boo!
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 10:23:56 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> You did follow Rule 8!  It's not too late to switch to the pink and blue 
>> harlequin bar tape :).  
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Bill Lindsay]

Toshi

The strange backstory is that I was thinking of a pink bike for a LONG 
time.  One of the saddle models that just works for me is the Fizik Arione, 
and there's a great market for them on ebay because they come in colors 
that don't work on many bikes, so they are cheap as hell second hand.  I 
stumbled across one in the Rapha Cycle Club 'colorway', which is 
pink/white/black.  I bought the saddle and commited that I would paint the 
Roadeo to match the saddle!  Subsequently, as the frame delayed and 
delayed, I slowly was acquiring lighter and lighter stuff for the build.  I 
knew I could get close to 20 pounds WITH fenders, front rack, bell, pump, 
and pedals, so I spent big bucks on the Arione 00 saddle to drop another 90 
grams.  I still have the pink, white and black saddle, but it's on a yellow 
bike now.  Yuck!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

P.S. there is no good shade of pink cloth handlebar tape.  Newbaums used to 
have a nice pale pink, but no more.  Boo!

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 10:23:56 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:

> You did follow Rule 8!  It's not too late to switch to the pink and blue 
> harlequin bar tape :).  
>
> Toshi
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Toshi Takeuchi]

You did follow Rule 8!  It's not too late to switch to the pink and blue
harlequin bar tape :).

Toshi

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Bill Lindsay]

James asked:  

1. Why 32s instead of something wider.  I've got a large stable of bikes 
and each has its slot.  This is my "road bike" slot.  It's a totally 
conventional "road bike" by all contemporary "road bike" standards.  At a 
2024 "club ride", I can roll up on this and it'll be weird because it's 
steel, and lugged, and has cantilevers, and has fenders, but aside from 
that, it's a straight ahead "road bike".  Also, I did not spec a Legolas 
fork.  I spec'd a Legolas fork crown.

2.  Why RH cantilevers instead of long reach side pulls.  I decided on Rene 
Herse cantilevers on this bike because I felt like it (for several 
reasons).  Me deciding to do that does not mean I think wide-mouth side 
pulls are inferior.  Lots of my bikes have long reach side pulls

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 6:37:46 AM UTC-8 MoVelo wrote:

> Bill
>
> Fantastic bike! Congratulations! I hope it is all that you wanted it to 
> be. It certainly has been fun following your postings and I hope that you 
> continue to share your particular thoughts, skills and musings with us in 
> the future.
>
> I've a couple of questions for you.
>
> 1) I'm curious about your choosing to mount 700 x 32s on a frame that is 
> definitely capable of wider tires. I understand your desire to keep the 
> bike fendered but still I wonder. I own a Legolas (I understand that you 
> spec'd the Legolas fork) on which I am able to run Rene Herse 700x44s. They 
> are admittedly a tight fit and would not work with fenders, but I am sure a 
> 38 or 35 would. I was pleasantly surprised when I mounted them and they 
> fit. This has now become my defacto allrounder. Some of the RH tires I have 
> run narrow for me and in fact the supposed 44s measure out to 41.8mm. Other 
> RH's I use include 650x42 which measure closer to 38mm width.
>
> 2)Related to above, I'm curious about your specing cantilever brakes as 
> opposed to dual pivot or center pulls, both of which, in my experience will 
> clear 42mm wide tires without deflation. The RH cantilevers are elegantly 
> beautiful and if you wanted to use them for no other reasons I totally 
> understand. 
>
> Please continue to keep the flame alive Bill, cause now I know that pink 
> is not only the lightest color but might in fact prove to be faster than 
> orange.
>
> Respectfully yours with wonder, amazement and pride at your musings
>
> James Poulson
> from the heartland
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 7:31:40 AM UTC-6 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> What a build Bill. 
>>
>> I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke bits 
>> that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for particular 
>> bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above discrete makes the 
>> bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record of your 
>> riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. Those who 
>> do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story narrated 
>> here.
>>
>> I get it!
>>
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>>
>>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
>>> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>>
>>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
>>> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>>
>>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm 
>>> bottom bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R 
>>> Der, Down tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>>
>>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>>>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
>>> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>>>
>>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
>>> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>>
>>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[MoVelo]

Bill

Fantastic bike! Congratulations! I hope it is all that you wanted it to be. 
It certainly has been fun following your postings and I hope that you 
continue to share your particular thoughts, skills and musings with us in 
the future.

I've a couple of questions for you.

1) I'm curious about your choosing to mount 700 x 32s on a frame that is 
definitely capable of wider tires. I understand your desire to keep the 
bike fendered but still I wonder. I own a Legolas (I understand that you 
spec'd the Legolas fork) on which I am able to run Rene Herse 700x44s. They 
are admittedly a tight fit and would not work with fenders, but I am sure a 
38 or 35 would. I was pleasantly surprised when I mounted them and they 
fit. This has now become my defacto allrounder. Some of the RH tires I have 
run narrow for me and in fact the supposed 44s measure out to 41.8mm. Other 
RH's I use include 650x42 which measure closer to 38mm width.

2)Related to above, I'm curious about your specing cantilever brakes as 
opposed to dual pivot or center pulls, both of which, in my experience will 
clear 42mm wide tires without deflation. The RH cantilevers are elegantly 
beautiful and if you wanted to use them for no other reasons I totally 
understand. 

Please continue to keep the flame alive Bill, cause now I know that pink is 
not only the lightest color but might in fact prove to be faster than 
orange.

Respectfully yours with wonder, amazement and pride at your musings

James Poulson
from the heartland

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 7:31:40 AM UTC-6 ascpgh wrote:

> What a build Bill. 
>
> I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke bits 
> that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for particular 
> bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above discrete makes the 
> bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record of your 
> riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. Those who 
> do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story narrated 
> here.
>
> I get it!
>
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
>> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
>> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
>> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
>> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
>> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
>> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Steve]

Abso-F'n-lutely Beautiful !!!   

Go Pink!

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:31:40 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> What a build Bill. 
>
> I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke bits 
> that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for particular 
> bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above discrete makes the 
> bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record of your 
> riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. Those who 
> do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story narrated 
> here.
>
> I get it!
>
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
>> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
>> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
>> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
>> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
>> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
>> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Sally Bidleman]

WOW! Amazing and delightful; have fun!

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 5:31 AM ascpgh  wrote:

> What a build Bill.
>
> I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke bits
> that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for particular
> bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above discrete makes the
> bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record of your
> riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. Those who
> do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story narrated
> here.
>
> I get it!
>
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas
>> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU
>> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom
>> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down
>> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing.
>> Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers
>> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse
>> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[ascpgh]

What a build Bill. 

I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke bits 
that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for particular 
bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above discrete makes the 
bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record of your 
riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. Those who 
do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story narrated 
here.

I get it!


Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>
> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>
> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>
> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>
> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>
> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>
> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Michael Ullmer]

Love that you opted for cantis on this frame. The mix of silver and black 
components is spot on. 

Did you get the tubing specs from Riv/Mark as well? Curious what was spec'd 
for this.

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 5:50:48 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Agreeing with others, very elegant, and like the cantilever brake choice 
> and the dt shifters. 
>
> Steven Sweedler
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:40 AM brendonoid  
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>
>> This is such a wonderful build sir, congratulations.
>>
>> This is the bike missing from the Riv line-up. A light rando frame with 
>> canti posts. So perfect.
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Steven Sweedler]

Agreeing with others, very elegant, and like the cantilever brake choice
and the dt shifters.

Steven Sweedler
Plymouth, New Hampshire


On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:40 AM brendonoid  wrote:

> This is such a wonderful build sir, congratulations.
>
> This is the bike missing from the Riv line-up. A light rando frame with
> canti posts. So perfect.
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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[brendonoid]

This is such a wonderful build sir, congratulations.

This is the bike missing from the Riv line-up. A light rando frame with 
canti posts. So perfect.

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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Ryan]

Wow...that is elegant. What hubs are you using; didn't see them listed? 
Have you ridden it yet?

Thanks for sharing the build with us!

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:04 PM UTC-6 Jim M. wrote:

> Great build! That'll be eye-catching on PBP!
>
> jim mather
> walnut creek
>
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 8:27:37 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
>> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
>> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
>> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
>> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
>> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
>> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Jim M.]

Great build! That'll be eye-catching on PBP!

jim mather
walnut creek


On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 8:27:37 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>
> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>
> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>
> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>
> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>
> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>
> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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