[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

2022-02-14 Thread E. Ricky Creek
Chocomoose!!!


On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:

> [image: 35DF0035-F6A0-49C3-BB9B-463FC58E96E2.jpeg]These are them on my 
> new to me Saluki.  I put them on both bikes. 
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:09:28 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> [image: 08D383C3-5CC3-42D6-844A-873D524C1A5A.jpeg]
>> I’m using Choco bars now after using Albatross for years.  I like the 
>> Choco bars more. 
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:59:43 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I originally set up my Hillborne with Nitto B115s years ago with aTallux 
>>> 100mm stem.  Fairly quickly switched to Albatross bars on the same stem.  
>>> Have had them on the bike for 6 years.  This past year I switched over to 
>>> Choco bars and a 110mm FacePlater stem (to make up for the loss in rise 
>>> going from the Albas to the Chocos.  I loved the look of the Albas and 
>>> can't beat the fact that the bike can be turned upside down on the bars and 
>>> saddle for tire changes and such.  I run the Chocos inverted as I like the 
>>> angle it places my wrists in. My favorite hand position on the bars is at 
>>> or just forward of the brake levers, and with the Chocos, there is a bit 
>>> more room just forward of the brake levers and the curve of the bars.  I 
>>> originally set up my Disc Trucker this way when I built it up last August 
>>> and liked it so much I decided to run the same bars on the Hillborne.  Here 
>>> is a picture of the arrangement.  Only difference for the Hillborne is the 
>>> stem.  The foam covering I use affords a multitude of hand positions.
>>>
>>> [image: DSCF0067 copy.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:28:50 AM UTC-8 Erik Wright wrote:
>>>
 IMO it's hard to beat the look and feel of the Albatross. I've set up 
 my Sam with something like 6-7 different bars at this point; started with 
 the Albatross and finally came back around to that setup a few months 
 back. 
 It seems like most newer bars that Riv makes come back extra far to 
 complement the longer reach of their newer models. Since the Albatross 
 predates those bikes I think they strike a nice balance when coming from 
 drops. I think something like +2cm on a stem will keep the fit/feel from 
 popping you too upright if you're used to Noodles. I have an 11cm stem and 
 have considered a 12, but since it's pretty fine as-is I haven't bothered 
 with the swap.

 Shifter choice might also play into your decision. I have Microshift 
 thumbies flipped inboard which sorta takes away the "in between" hand 
 position because it clogs up the bars a bit. This is less of an issue on a 
 bar like Chocos because they have additional sweep. If you run bar ends, 
 you get that extra 2ish cm of sweep from the bar end pods and also get to 
 keep the "in between" position. I've been thinking about moving to stem 
 shifters or moving the thumbies up next to the stem in the forward-most 
 hand position.

 Erik, Philly

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:11:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer 
> depends on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache 
> in 
> which case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a 
> shorter stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional 
> sweptback my suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco. 
>  
> But it's really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to 
> be.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but 
>> want to convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a 
>> similar 
>> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

2022-02-14 Thread Damien
I actually went the other way, converting from Albatross to Noodles. With 
the Albas, I had a 12cm stem and bar end shifters (although I think 
thumbies would be better). They felt very upright for me - hence the move 
to Noodles - but I can't figure out whether I just didn't take to the 
sweepback of the Albas, or I was just used to drops. The Noodle setup is 
using 48cm noodles with a 7cm stem, although sometimes I wish it were 5cm 
or 6cm (or I just had compact bars). I'm going to try some SimWorks Fun 3s 
or Nitto Wavies with a 135 faceplater to see if that changes my mind on 
non-drop bars for this bike.

On Monday, 14 February 2022 at 11:28:50 UTC-5 Erik Wright wrote:

> IMO it's hard to beat the look and feel of the Albatross. I've set up my 
> Sam with something like 6-7 different bars at this point; started with the 
> Albatross and finally came back around to that setup a few months back. It 
> seems like most newer bars that Riv makes come back extra far to complement 
> the longer reach of their newer models. Since the Albatross predates those 
> bikes I think they strike a nice balance when coming from drops. I think 
> something like +2cm on a stem will keep the fit/feel from popping you too 
> upright if you're used to Noodles. I have an 11cm stem and have considered 
> a 12, but since it's pretty fine as-is I haven't bothered with the swap.
>
> Shifter choice might also play into your decision. I have Microshift 
> thumbies flipped inboard which sorta takes away the "in between" hand 
> position because it clogs up the bars a bit. This is less of an issue on a 
> bar like Chocos because they have additional sweep. If you run bar ends, 
> you get that extra 2ish cm of sweep from the bar end pods and also get to 
> keep the "in between" position. I've been thinking about moving to stem 
> shifters or moving the thumbies up next to the stem in the forward-most 
> hand position.
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:11:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer 
>> depends on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache in 
>> which case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a 
>> shorter stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional 
>> sweptback my suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco.  
>> But it's really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to be.
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but want 
>>> to convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a similar 
>>> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

2022-02-14 Thread Erik Wright
IMO it's hard to beat the look and feel of the Albatross. I've set up my 
Sam with something like 6-7 different bars at this point; started with the 
Albatross and finally came back around to that setup a few months back. It 
seems like most newer bars that Riv makes come back extra far to complement 
the longer reach of their newer models. Since the Albatross predates those 
bikes I think they strike a nice balance when coming from drops. I think 
something like +2cm on a stem will keep the fit/feel from popping you too 
upright if you're used to Noodles. I have an 11cm stem and have considered 
a 12, but since it's pretty fine as-is I haven't bothered with the swap.

Shifter choice might also play into your decision. I have Microshift 
thumbies flipped inboard which sorta takes away the "in between" hand 
position because it clogs up the bars a bit. This is less of an issue on a 
bar like Chocos because they have additional sweep. If you run bar ends, 
you get that extra 2ish cm of sweep from the bar end pods and also get to 
keep the "in between" position. I've been thinking about moving to stem 
shifters or moving the thumbies up next to the stem in the forward-most 
hand position.

Erik, Philly

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:11:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer depends 
> on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache in which 
> case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a shorter 
> stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional sweptback my 
> suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco.  But it's 
> really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to be.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but want to 
>> convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a similar 
>> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

2022-02-14 Thread Johnny Alien
You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer depends 
on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache in which 
case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a shorter 
stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional sweptback my 
suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco.  But it's 
really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to be.

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but want to 
> convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a similar 
> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>

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