[RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Jan O.]

Beautiful badge Olivier. Bravo!

Jan
San Francisco, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Roberta]

It's a nice looking head badge.  I'm going to get a bike, just to have that 
head badge  :) .

On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 3:41:00 PM UTC-4, Olivier Chételat wrote:
>
> Thank you for the kind words, Kim, Mark, Leah and David. It means a whole 
> lot. The pressure was on to not mess this one up and I'm very very glad of 
> the positive feedback so far; so is Grant. YaY!
> Sam, without knowing geometry details, the Platypus looks like a Cheviot 
> with curved seat stays (mucho elegant) and break posts to allow V-breaks. I 
> believe it also has a bit more clearance for wider tires. In short: awesome!
>
> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7 John A. Bennett wrote:
>
>> Here's a photo on our Instagram 
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CECGYWwnzqg/
>>
>> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 8:30:16 AM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> what does the platypus look like ? i dont see it on the website
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:30 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Magnificent! A highly mobile art piece!
 I must buy one of these bikes just to prominently display the head 
 badge. 
 And, for my own viewing pleasure.

 Thank you Olivier!

 David Lipsky
 Berkeley, CA


 On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 10:11:38 AM UTC-7, Olivier Chételat 
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> ...and some additional material for those still waiting for a Platypus 
> by way of sample badge. 
> Save a few refinements, you are looking at the 99.83% final version.
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Olivier Chételat]

Thank you for the kind words, Kim, Mark, Leah and David. It means a whole 
lot. The pressure was on to not mess this one up and I'm very very glad of 
the positive feedback so far; so is Grant. YaY!
Sam, without knowing geometry details, the Platypus looks like a Cheviot 
with curved seat stays (mucho elegant) and break posts to allow V-breaks. I 
believe it also has a bit more clearance for wider tires. In short: awesome!

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7 John A. Bennett wrote:

> Here's a photo on our Instagram 
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CECGYWwnzqg/
>
> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 8:30:16 AM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:
>
>> what does the platypus look like ? i dont see it on the website
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:30 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>>> Magnificent! A highly mobile art piece!
>>> I must buy one of these bikes just to prominently display the head 
>>> badge. 
>>> And, for my own viewing pleasure.
>>>
>>> Thank you Olivier!
>>>
>>> David Lipsky
>>> Berkeley, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 10:11:38 AM UTC-7, Olivier Chételat 
>>> wrote:

 ...and some additional material for those still waiting for a Platypus 
 by way of sample badge. 
 Save a few refinements, you are looking at the 99.83% final version.

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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[John A. Bennett]

Here's a photo on our Instagram 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CECGYWwnzqg/

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 8:30:16 AM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:

> what does the platypus look like ? i dont see it on the website
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:30 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>> Magnificent! A highly mobile art piece!
>> I must buy one of these bikes just to prominently display the head badge. 
>> And, for my own viewing pleasure.
>>
>> Thank you Olivier!
>>
>> David Lipsky
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 10:11:38 AM UTC-7, Olivier Chételat 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...and some additional material for those still waiting for a Platypus 
>>> by way of sample badge. 
>>> Save a few refinements, you are looking at the 99.83% final version.
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[kim young]

I think joe posted the initial preview of it.  Search the list under new
Cheviot, or maybe fancy cheviot (?) , something like that. (It is the
platypus, but that comes after.)



On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 8:30 AM Sam Perez  wrote:

> what does the platypus look like ? i dont see it on the website
>
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> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:30 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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>> Magnificent! A highly mobile art piece!
>> I must buy one of these bikes just to prominently display the head badge.
>> And, for my own viewing pleasure.
>>
>> Thank you Olivier!
>>
>> David Lipsky
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 10:11:38 AM UTC-7, Olivier Chételat
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...and some additional material for those still waiting for a Platypus
>>> by way of sample badge.
>>> Save a few refinements, you are looking at the 99.83% final version.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Sam Perez]

what does the platypus look like ? i dont see it on the website



On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:30 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Magnificent! A highly mobile art piece!
> I must buy one of these bikes just to prominently display the head badge.
> And, for my own viewing pleasure.
>
> Thank you Olivier!
>
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 10:11:38 AM UTC-7, Olivier Chételat wrote:
>>
>> ...and some additional material for those still waiting for a Platypus by
>> way of sample badge.
>> Save a few refinements, you are looking at the 99.83% final version.
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Magnificent! A highly mobile art piece!
I must buy one of these bikes just to prominently display the head badge. 
And, for my own viewing pleasure.

Thank you Olivier!

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 10:11:38 AM UTC-7, Olivier Chételat wrote:
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> ...and some additional material for those still waiting for a Platypus by 
> way of sample badge. 
> Save a few refinements, you are looking at the 99.83% final version.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Leah Peterson]

Well, you just knocked it right out of the park, Olivier! It is wonderful! So 
much color and detail and depth. Love, love, love.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Olivier Chételat  wrote:
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> 
> ...and some additional material for those still waiting for a Platypus by way 
> of sample badge. 
> Save a few refinements, you are looking at the 99.83% final version.
> 
> Have a wonderful day,
> 
> Olivier in SF
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 9:56:15 AM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>> Just some material for those still waiting for a Platypus: 
>> https://i.redd.it/0a07ng567bj51.png
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Mark Roland]

I second that--fantastic job. 

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 1:21:14 PM UTC-4, Flowerfang wrote:
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>
> Olivier - you’ve outdone yourself !!
> What a masterpiece. 
> I love the artwork so much.
> 
>
>
> from kim
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> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:11 AM Olivier Chételat  > wrote:
>
>> ...and some additional material for those still waiting for a Platypus by 
>> way of sample badge. 
>> Save a few refinements, you are looking at the 99.83% final version.
>>
>> Have a wonderful day,
>>
>> Olivier in SF
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_0378.jpeg]
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 9:56:15 AM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Just some material for those still waiting for a Platypus: 
>>> https://i.redd.it/0a07ng567bj51.png
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Pancake]

Just some material for those still waiting for a Platypus: 
https://i.redd.it/0a07ng567bj51.png

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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Patrick Moore]

Aha, Sting Ray, now I remember. Google and Wiki provide the text below. My
only contact with the fad was a top-tube-mounted 3-speed shifter that I
found in the 1968 Sears Christmas Catalogue and added to to my Christmas
list and, indulgent parents thank you!, actually got via slow boat in time
for Christmas; big black knob on stout pressed metal lever over
plastic-box-enclosed, simple, ratchet shifting system, and installed on my
metallic-gold-flake with white accents Raleigh Sports to complement the
retrofitted steel drop bar and rat trap pedals sans retention mechs.
Nowadays I'd prefer the original -- and IMO brilliant -- bar-mount trigger
shifter, which I've gone thru contortions to source in these our latter
days.

*The Sting-Ray: **In 1962, Schwinn's designer Al Fritz heard about a new
youth trend centered in California for retrofitting bicycles with the
accoutrements of motorcycles customized in the "bobber" or "chopper" style,
including high-rise, "ape-hanger" handlebars and low-rider "banana
seats".[23] Inspired, he designed a mass-production bike for the youth
market known as Project J-38. The result, a wheelie bike, was introduced to
the public as the Schwinn Sting-Ray in June 1963.[23][24][25][26] It had
ape-hanger handlebars, Persons's Solo Polo Seat banana seat and 20-inch
tires. Sales were initially slow, as many parents desiring a bicycle for
their children did not find the Sting-Ray appealing in the least. However,
after a few appeared on America's streets and neighborhoods, many young
riders would accept nothing else, and sales took off. In the December 1963
Schwinn Reporter Schwinn announced the arrival of the Deluxe Sting-Ray.
This model included Fenders, white-wall tires, and a padded Solo polo seat.
Next, in July 1964 Schwinn announced the arrival of the Super Deluxe
Sting-Ray. This model included a front spring-fork, and a new sleeker
Sting-Ray banana seat, and a Person's Hi-loop Sissy bar. Also, the Super
Deluxe gave the rider a choice of White wall tires or the new Yellow oval
rear Slik tire paired with a front black wall Westwind tire. By 1965, a
host of American and foreign manufacturers were offering their own version
of the Sting-Ray.*

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> > When did the prototypical child's bike change from a balloon-tire
> cruiser to a chopper-type bike?
>
> Midway through 1964. In the heady days of customizing cars and
> motorcycles, a Schwinn executive saw kids in California customizing their
> balloon-tire bikes to make them look and ride like motorcycles, so he
> designed a new bike called the "Sting-Ray." The Sting-Ray was a huge hit,
> and a subsequent version called the "Scrambler"
>  with knobby tires, no front
> fender, and a reinforced frame was specifically designed as a "dirt bike"
> for kids who were riding and racing their bikes off-road in the early days
> of bicycle motocross, better known as "BMX."
>
> See also: Klunking. 
>
> 
>
> “I’ll tell you what I think of bicycling. I think it has done more to
> emancipate women than any one thing in the world. I rejoice every time I
> see a woman ride by on a bike. It gives her a feeling of self-reliance and
> independence the moment she takes her seat; and away she goes, the picture
> of untrammeled womanhood.”
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Matthew Williams]

> When did the prototypical child's bike change from a balloon-tire cruiser 
to a chopper-type bike?

Midway through 1964. In the heady days of customizing cars and motorcycles, 
a Schwinn executive saw kids in California customizing their balloon-tire 
bikes to make them look and ride like motorcycles, so he designed a new 
bike called the "Sting-Ray." The Sting-Ray was a huge hit, and a subsequent 
version called the "Scrambler"  
with knobby tires, no front fender, and a reinforced frame was specifically 
designed as a "dirt bike" for kids who were riding and racing their bikes 
off-road in the early days of bicycle motocross, better known as "BMX." 

See also: Klunking. 



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emancipate women than any one thing in the world. I rejoice every time I 
see a woman ride by on a bike. It gives her a feeling of self-reliance and 
independence the moment she takes her seat; and away she goes, the picture 
of untrammeled womanhood.”

--Susan B. Anthony




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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Patrick Moore]

When did the prototypical child's bike change from a balloon-tire cruiser
to a chopper-type bike? It must have been while we were outside the US,
because all the kids' bikes I recall from elementary school were cruiser
types; I recall one little girl with a "Dale Evans" version in palomino
colors with cowgirl fringes and rhinestones, while other luckier boys had
the full-faux-gas-tank-and-horn models. My JC Higgins was a base model, but
lasted for years -- I remember thrashing it age 15 or 16.



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> [image: good buddy.jpg]
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> This isn't my picture as I just found it on google, but this is the first
> bike model I remember riding. On the saddle it says "Good Buddy" so I
> always called it my good buddy. I rode that thing so much the frame
> eventually broke...well, we were riding in a field and I rode it down a
> steep hill I had no business riding down and the ensuing crash led to a
> broken bike. It's the first bike I got good at skidding with, also it did
> passably well when we built ramps to jump off of.
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[RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Ryan M.]

[image: good buddy.jpg]


This isn't my picture as I just found it on google, but this is the first 
bike model I remember riding. On the saddle it says "Good Buddy" so I 
always called it my good buddy. I rode that thing so much the frame 
eventually broke...well, we were riding in a field and I rode it down a 
steep hill I had no business riding down and the ensuing crash led to a 
broken bike. It's the first bike I got good at skidding with, also it did 
passably well when we built ramps to jump off of.  

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[RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Matthew Williams]

I thought you might like this collection of Schwinn catalogs:

https://bikehistory.org/

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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Joe Bernard]

I'm not a big podcast listener but I highly recommend the one Leah 
mentioned. It's amazing, and parents in the '70s were nuts! 

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 11:31:10 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Julian, your childhood looks to be the stuff of dreams. What a cool and 
> eclectic group of kids - I think it’s rare that the older kids will let 
> much younger kids join their group. Yes, your Clem would feel right at home 
> - maybe this is why we like our Clems? They are a visit to our childhood 
> eras. Great photo!
>
> If anyone else’s appetite has been whet for a great story in the vein of 
> this thread, check out this podcast episode about a group of kids in the 
> 70s and a 240 miles bike trip that they took...alone. No parents. 2 states. 
> Zero supervision. 100% true.
>
>
> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/heavyweight/id1150800298?i=1000451295628
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 21, 2020, at 9:58 AM, Julian Westerhout  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Leah, 
>
> Here I am (on the far left) with three of my siblings and two kids from 
> the neighborhood on a fine fall day in Maryland circa 1971. 
>
> Note my Wald basket (descendants of which are on my Clem and our HHH), 
> wide tires, fenders, and upright bars. My Clem would feel right at home in 
> this photo. 
>
> The majorly cool kids in that group were the kid with the Sting Ray with 
> Ape Hanger handlebars and "realistic stick shifter" and my older brother on 
> the 10-speed -- he could ride up hills that we had to hop off and push. 
> :) 
>
> Bikes meant freedom to me then -- we could ride to scout meetings, to 
> sports, to friends' houses -- all on our own, and could explore the wood 
> paths on our bikes -- the feelings of empowerment and independence were 
> awesome. 
>
> Today, nothing too much has changed, other than I no longer have hair and 
> am a lot taller...  ;) 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 9:20:50 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> Here is a thread that will veer just a bit from the normal subject 
>> matter. But it has been 112 degrees today, and we have to do something 
>> while we wait for our Platypus bikes. Going for a walk down memory lane is 
>> what we’re doing.
>>
>> I recently found this treasure. Pictured is me, at 5 years old with my 
>> very first bike. My parents purchased it at a garage sale from a family in 
>> town. It was a Huffy Desert Rose (long, dramatic, wistful sigh here).The 
>> story was that the bike had been backed over but -yay!- the man of the 
>> house had welded the bike back into working order. I was THRILLED. I never 
>> had training wheels - I learned by taking off and crashing all over the 
>> neighborhood. I didn’t care if I was missing a lot of hide; I had wheels 
>> and I was going places in my tiny North Dakota town.
>>
>> I would like to take this time to point out several things...
>>
>> 1. I really think they nailed the saddle height on the first try.
>>
>> 2. My bike had fenders! And they were clearly for decoration only.
>>
>> 3. What shoes was I wearing? I don’t know, but what I can tell you I 
>> didn’t trouble myself with socks. 
>>
>> 4. My celebrity lookalike was Mowgli from the Jungle Book. 
>>
>> 6. Banana seats > Brooks saddles.
>>
>> 7. No need for racks/baskets. I put a friend or a little sister on the 
>> banana seat and SHE carried the goods.
>>
>> 8. Kids were tougher in the 80s. That bike was huge for 5-year-old me, 
>> but I rode it. Pedaling that bike felt like being stuck in the hardest gear 
>> going uphill always (the welder dad overestimated his abilities), but I 
>> rode the wheels off of it..most likely with flat tires.
>>
>> In closing, I might also point out that I was into Rivendell before 
>> Rivendell was into Rivendell. Compare the Huffy with my Clementine - I was 
>> an early adopter.
>>
>> This was the day the love affair began, friends. I am so happy to have a 
>> photo of it. Who else has a story about their first bike? Bonus points if 
>> you can also provide photos.
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Carl]

Hi Leah, I still have that C Itoh. It’s gone a ways since ‘74, mostly in 
its first 20 years. I’ll post a current photo of it tomorrow. It was my 
Dad’s, but I nagged him until he gave it to me and got himself a new 
Bridgestone Super Speed, which I also still have. 

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:36:22 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Speaking of fixies for toddlers, I recall learning to ride 2 wheels circa 
> age 4, which would have been 1959, on a tiny red bicycle with solid, black 
> rubber tires and a fixed wheel; I have no recollection where it came from, 
> because it certainly wasn't mine. Funny how strong such early memories are. 
> Doubtless it was this early experience that soured me on freewheels later 
> in life.
>
> The older blonde girls from next door -- I think they may have been 8 or 9 
> -- made me their afternoon project, and they set me on the saddle and 
> pushed me down the slope of our short driveway (right into the street). But 
> I survived and learned.
>
> Speaking of the old-fashioned children's tricycles: those were horribly 
> unstable. I recall how 5 years later, my brother, then age 4, would tear 
> down the concrete driveway on his, with 16" wheel trike, rather tall for a 
> tricycle and, attempting to do a time trial turn at the end, would 
> inevitably fall over at speed and hit his head on the concrete; he was 
> tall, skinny, with a very big head, and I recall thinking, even at age 9, 
> that his large head was a liability here, and that "this can't be healthy." 
> Though, a couple of year later at another house with a driveway that dove 
> steeply down to a basement-level garage, I'd coax him into the driver's 
> seat and stand on the back and accelerate us rapidly down the very steep 
> slope, pedals whirling, his legs in the air, our aim being to safely make 
> the 90* right hand turn into a small corridor between back wall of house 
> and back wall of property; since I grasped the bar in the center, it was 
> his left hand that always got scraped.
>
> Two photos I wish I still had -- my mother kept them for decades as we 
> travelled between continents: A bw photo of me, age 7 or 8, with my new 
> 24"-wheel JC Higgins, and best friend Ricky Heinbuck, a year younger but an 
> inch taller, with an ancient, 28"- wheel woman's bike that his father had 
> resurrected from some dump or another. Another bw of me, sophomore 
> yearbook, age 15 or just turned 16, early 1971, with my first self-build: 
> Indian roadster frame, 700C flip flop rear wheel, 24" front wheel, drop 
> bar, rat trap pedals with no cages or straps, and no brakes because (to my 
> surprise) nothing would fit. 50 t cottered crank, 15 t fw, IIRC, 90" gear. 
> I rode it on murderous narrow, hilly, winding roads with no shoulders, with 
> the faster cars getting up to 80 (rode in one) and "country" buses racing 
> side by side around blind corners, and in downtown traffic, with no brake. 
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 9:03 AM Ray  wrote:
>
>> I wonder if Riv would consider a 3-wheeler for the aging boomer market. 
>> Here I am cruising one-handed on my first fixie in about 1953, trying to 
>> keep my shoes clean in rough garden terrain down by the tracks in northern 
>> Ontario. Leah, there is room on the back for you to stand on those axle 
>> platforms if you want me to stop by your place in Dakota.
>>
>> [image: trike.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 6:42:54 AM UTC-7 Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>>> I was wondering when we would hear the bringgg bringgg of 
>>> Bicyclebelldingding, it's been a bit stuffy around here.
>>>
>>> My first bike memory is of an old white girls bike that my grandfather 
>>> and I rescued from the local dump. He fixed it up and that's how I learned 
>>> to ride. I think.
>>>
>>> There is a  polariod somewhere of me in my pajamas on Christmas morning, 
>>> kneeling next to a sea-foam green Rollfast with a white banana seat, 
>>> chopper bars, and a big red bow. My first new bike. Eerily similar to 
>>> Carl's photo.
>>>
>>> Like Matthew, I also had a C.Itoh in a beautiful pale yellow, my first 
>>> ten-speed. Which, it should be noted here, was made by the Bridgestone 
>>> company. Although I now understand the paint job was the best thing about 
>>> the bike, I wanted to make it sparkle green like Janice M.'s Schwinn 
>>> Continental down the block. I took it apart, then used toxic stripper and 
>>> razor blades to take it down to bare metal. This was probably 1972, I was 
>>> 11 or 12. My workshop was the basement floor in front of the boiler. I 
>>> think I may not have used primer, and it may not have ridden quite the 
>>> same, but it was a fairly decent green, and there were only a few leftover 
>>> parts.
>>>
>>> The Platypus will be awesome, as will the Charlie Gallop. If they ever 
>>> do make a dedicated kids bike, it will need to be called a Puggle. I am 
>>> currently waiting on my large Susie. And building up an HHH tandem. And 
>>> tootling around town on 

Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Leah Peterson]

Carl - my apologies! I missed your post until now! Great photo, and what a 
gorgeous bike. Where is it now? Did you save it? “World’s finest bicycle 
precision mechanism” definitely surpasses Welded Huffy Desert Rose Garage Sale 
Special! Who loved bikes so much that they gifted you this treasure?

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> On Aug 18, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Carl  wrote:
> 
> 
> January '74. My birthday present was a C. Itoh, guaranteed world's finest 
> bicycle precision mechanism.
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 10:20:50 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Here is a thread that will veer just a bit from the normal subject matter. 
>> But it has been 112 degrees today, and we have to do something while we wait 
>> for our Platypus bikes. Going for a walk down memory lane is what we’re 
>> doing.
>> 
>> I recently found this treasure. Pictured is me, at 5 years old with my very 
>> first bike. My parents purchased it at a garage sale from a family in town. 
>> It was a Huffy Desert Rose (long, dramatic, wistful sigh here).The story was 
>> that the bike had been backed over but -yay!- the man of the house had 
>> welded the bike back into working order. I was THRILLED. I never had 
>> training wheels - I learned by taking off and crashing all over the 
>> neighborhood. I didn’t care if I was missing a lot of hide; I had wheels and 
>> I was going places in my tiny North Dakota town.
>> 
>> I would like to take this time to point out several things...
>> 
>> 1. I really think they nailed the saddle height on the first try.
>> 
>> 2. My bike had fenders! And they were clearly for decoration only.
>> 
>> 3. What shoes was I wearing? I don’t know, but what I can tell you I didn’t 
>> trouble myself with socks. 
>> 
>> 4. My celebrity lookalike was Mowgli from the Jungle Book. 
>> 
>> 6. Banana seats > Brooks saddles.
>> 
>> 7. No need for racks/baskets. I put a friend or a little sister on the 
>> banana seat and SHE carried the goods.
>> 
>> 8. Kids were tougher in the 80s. That bike was huge for 5-year-old me, but I 
>> rode it. Pedaling that bike felt like being stuck in the hardest gear going 
>> uphill always (the welder dad overestimated his abilities), but I rode the 
>> wheels off of it..most likely with flat tires.
>> 
>> In closing, I might also point out that I was into Rivendell before 
>> Rivendell was into Rivendell. Compare the Huffy with my Clementine - I was 
>> an early adopter.
>> 
>> This was the day the love affair began, friends. I am so happy to have a 
>> photo of it. Who else has a story about their first bike? Bonus points if 
>> you can also provide photos.
>> 
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Leah Peterson]

Julian, your childhood looks to be the stuff of dreams. What a cool and 
eclectic group of kids - I think it’s rare that the older kids will let much 
younger kids join their group. Yes, your Clem would feel right at home - maybe 
this is why we like our Clems? They are a visit to our childhood eras. Great 
photo!

If anyone else’s appetite has been whet for a great story in the vein of this 
thread, check out this podcast episode about a group of kids in the 70s and a 
240 miles bike trip that they took...alone. No parents. 2 states. Zero 
supervision. 100% true.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/heavyweight/id1150800298?i=1000451295628

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> On Aug 21, 2020, at 9:58 AM, Julian Westerhout  wrote:
> 
> 
> Leah, 
> 
> Here I am (on the far left) with three of my siblings and two kids from the 
> neighborhood on a fine fall day in Maryland circa 1971. 
> 
> Note my Wald basket (descendants of which are on my Clem and our HHH), wide 
> tires, fenders, and upright bars. My Clem would feel right at home in this 
> photo. 
> 
> The majorly cool kids in that group were the kid with the Sting Ray with Ape 
> Hanger handlebars and "realistic stick shifter" and my older brother on the 
> 10-speed -- he could ride up hills that we had to hop off and push. :) 
> 
> Bikes meant freedom to me then -- we could ride to scout meetings, to sports, 
> to friends' houses -- all on our own, and could explore the wood paths on our 
> bikes -- the feelings of empowerment and independence were awesome. 
> 
> Today, nothing too much has changed, other than I no longer have hair and am 
> a lot taller...  ;) 
> 
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 9:20:50 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Here is a thread that will veer just a bit from the normal subject matter. 
>> But it has been 112 degrees today, and we have to do something while we wait 
>> for our Platypus bikes. Going for a walk down memory lane is what we’re 
>> doing.
>> 
>> I recently found this treasure. Pictured is me, at 5 years old with my very 
>> first bike. My parents purchased it at a garage sale from a family in town. 
>> It was a Huffy Desert Rose (long, dramatic, wistful sigh here).The story was 
>> that the bike had been backed over but -yay!- the man of the house had 
>> welded the bike back into working order. I was THRILLED. I never had 
>> training wheels - I learned by taking off and crashing all over the 
>> neighborhood. I didn’t care if I was missing a lot of hide; I had wheels and 
>> I was going places in my tiny North Dakota town.
>> 
>> I would like to take this time to point out several things...
>> 
>> 1. I really think they nailed the saddle height on the first try.
>> 
>> 2. My bike had fenders! And they were clearly for decoration only.
>> 
>> 3. What shoes was I wearing? I don’t know, but what I can tell you I didn’t 
>> trouble myself with socks. 
>> 
>> 4. My celebrity lookalike was Mowgli from the Jungle Book. 
>> 
>> 6. Banana seats > Brooks saddles.
>> 
>> 7. No need for racks/baskets. I put a friend or a little sister on the 
>> banana seat and SHE carried the goods.
>> 
>> 8. Kids were tougher in the 80s. That bike was huge for 5-year-old me, but I 
>> rode it. Pedaling that bike felt like being stuck in the hardest gear going 
>> uphill always (the welder dad overestimated his abilities), but I rode the 
>> wheels off of it..most likely with flat tires.
>> 
>> In closing, I might also point out that I was into Rivendell before 
>> Rivendell was into Rivendell. Compare the Huffy with my Clementine - I was 
>> an early adopter.
>> 
>> This was the day the love affair began, friends. I am so happy to have a 
>> photo of it. Who else has a story about their first bike? Bonus points if 
>> you can also provide photos.
>> 
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Michael Williams]

I am loving all these old photos of folks on their childhood bikes.  The 
stories of where people were riding and the freedom the bikes brought them is 
awesome.  And the throwback styles are just so cool!

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> On Aug 21, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Julian Westerhout  wrote:
> 
> Leah, 
> 
> Here I am (on the far left) with three of my siblings and two kids from the 
> neighborhood on a fine fall day in Maryland circa 1971. 
> 
> Note my Wald basket (descendants of which are on my Clem and our HHH), wide 
> tires, fenders, and upright bars. My Clem would feel right at home in this 
> photo. 
> 
> The majorly cool kids in that group were the kid with the Sting Ray with Ape 
> Hanger handlebars and "realistic stick shifter" and my older brother on the 
> 10-speed -- he could ride up hills that we had to hop off and push. :) 
> 
> Bikes meant freedom to me then -- we could ride to scout meetings, to sports, 
> to friends' houses -- all on our own, and could explore the wood paths on our 
> bikes -- the feelings of empowerment and independence were awesome. 
> 
> Today, nothing too much has changed, other than I no longer have hair and am 
> a lot taller...  ;) 
> 
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 9:20:50 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Here is a thread that will veer just a bit from the normal subject matter. 
>> But it has been 112 degrees today, and we have to do something while we wait 
>> for our Platypus bikes. Going for a walk down memory lane is what we’re 
>> doing.
>> 
>> I recently found this treasure. Pictured is me, at 5 years old with my very 
>> first bike. My parents purchased it at a garage sale from a family in town. 
>> It was a Huffy Desert Rose (long, dramatic, wistful sigh here).The story was 
>> that the bike had been backed over but -yay!- the man of the house had 
>> welded the bike back into working order. I was THRILLED. I never had 
>> training wheels - I learned by taking off and crashing all over the 
>> neighborhood. I didn’t care if I was missing a lot of hide; I had wheels and 
>> I was going places in my tiny North Dakota town.
>> 
>> I would like to take this time to point out several things...
>> 
>> 1. I really think they nailed the saddle height on the first try.
>> 
>> 2. My bike had fenders! And they were clearly for decoration only.
>> 
>> 3. What shoes was I wearing? I don’t know, but what I can tell you I didn’t 
>> trouble myself with socks. 
>> 
>> 4. My celebrity lookalike was Mowgli from the Jungle Book. 
>> 
>> 6. Banana seats > Brooks saddles.
>> 
>> 7. No need for racks/baskets. I put a friend or a little sister on the 
>> banana seat and SHE carried the goods.
>> 
>> 8. Kids were tougher in the 80s. That bike was huge for 5-year-old me, but I 
>> rode it. Pedaling that bike felt like being stuck in the hardest gear going 
>> uphill always (the welder dad overestimated his abilities), but I rode the 
>> wheels off of it..most likely with flat tires.
>> 
>> In closing, I might also point out that I was into Rivendell before 
>> Rivendell was into Rivendell. Compare the Huffy with my Clementine - I was 
>> an early adopter.
>> 
>> This was the day the love affair began, friends. I am so happy to have a 
>> photo of it. Who else has a story about their first bike? Bonus points if 
>> you can also provide photos.
>> 
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Jason Fuller]

Leah, yeah that's a tough wait - but after staring at the Platypus a bunch 
lately, I now prefer its aesthetics over the Cheviot quite a bit, and I 
hope you do too! The Gallop is a little behind the Platypus in revealed 
detail from Riv directly, so I would be surprised if it didn't come first - 
but maybe they'll be on the same shipment, since both appear to be 
greenlighted from the prototypes now!

On Friday, 21 August 2020 at 09:09:25 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> I do feel like we’re fighting over who gets their production model first - 
> will it be the horse or the platypus -  no one can say. I’ve been waiting 
> for this new mixte since the rumored Anniversary Mixte, so I feel like Riv 
> should put the Platypus first in the queue.  Also, selling the Clem? How 
> could you? Just kidding...sort of.
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Leah Peterson]

Ah, Jason, you’re from an even more northern town than I! The pic is too blurry 
to see, but I’m wondering if we also had the same haircut. 藍 

I do feel like we’re fighting over who gets their production model first - will 
it be the horse or the platypus -  no one can say. I’ve been waiting for this 
new mixte since the rumored Anniversary Mixte, so I feel like Riv should put 
the Platypus first in the queue.  Also, selling the Clem? How could you? Just 
kidding...sort of.

Mark - impressive that you could take apart and repaint your bike at 11 or 12! 
And put it back together with parts leftover - that’s efficient! Congrats on 
the new bikes; you went from no Rivs to LOTS of Rivs in 2020. Good for you!

Ray - I’ll stand on your axles with pleasure - if we leave now I can escape 
this inferno that is Vegas and we can meet up north in God’s Country. Start 
pedaling. 

You guys are all adorable little kids. Even with your 70s and 80s haircuts.
Leah

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> On Aug 19, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> Excellent storytelling Leah, et al.  I am not waiting on Platypus, but I 
> *am* waiting on the Charlie H Gallop and I feel like we're in some kind of 
> race (although the CHG is likely behind, since less details have been 
> officially provided). I hope we get a colour as cool as the green. I haven't 
> heard a peep about what colours are being planned for production on the CHG. 
> 
> My first bike is not too different looking; banana seat, fork that is 
> certainly bent and unsafe. I was actually pretty timid as a kid and it took 
> me a long time to take the plunge on training wheel-free riding. I was six 
> when I figured it out. As you'll see in the second image, riding bikes became 
> the one thing I was not timid about. I was no good at sports, but I had bike 
> skills: throughout my childhood and teenage years I rode mountain bikes, and 
> I became pretty skilled at trials riding (hopping around on one wheel, etc) 
> in my late teens and into my twenties. I then discovered fixie bikes, which I 
> was into for the 2000's, and by 2010 or so I shifted my interest to touring 
> bikes, where Rivendell became something I was more acutely aware of. 
> 
> So despite my first bike being quite Riv-friendly, I then went in very 
> un-Grant-like directions for about two decades before returning. 
> 
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[RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Mark Roland]

I was wondering when we would hear the bringgg bringgg of 
Bicyclebelldingding, it's been a bit stuffy around here.

My first bike memory is of an old white girls bike that my grandfather and 
I rescued from the local dump. He fixed it up and that's how I learned to 
ride. I think.

There is a  polariod somewhere of me in my pajamas on Christmas morning, 
kneeling next to a sea-foam green Rollfast with a white banana seat, 
chopper bars, and a big red bow. My first new bike. Eerily similar to 
Carl's photo.

Like Matthew, I also had a C.Itoh in a beautiful pale yellow, my first 
ten-speed. Which, it should be noted here, was made by the Bridgestone 
company. Although I now understand the paint job was the best thing about 
the bike, I wanted to make it sparkle green like Janice M.'s Schwinn 
Continental down the block. I took it apart, then used toxic stripper and 
razor blades to take it down to bare metal. This was probably 1972, I was 
11 or 12. My workshop was the basement floor in front of the boiler. I 
think I may not have used primer, and it may not have ridden quite the 
same, but it was a fairly decent green, and there were only a few leftover 
parts.

The Platypus will be awesome, as will the Charlie Gallop. If they ever do 
make a dedicated kids bike, it will need to be called a Puggle. I am 
currently waiting on my large Susie. And building up an HHH tandem. And 
tootling around town on my 52 *El Clem*, which is completely complete 
except for mud flaps and likely a basket for the front rack, though that 
will create parking issues in my living room closet.

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 10:20:50 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Here is a thread that will veer just a bit from the normal subject matter. 
> But it has been 112 degrees today, and we have to do something while we 
> wait for our Platypus bikes. Going for a walk down memory lane is what 
> we’re doing.
>
> I recently found this treasure. Pictured is me, at 5 years old with my 
> very first bike. My parents purchased it at a garage sale from a family in 
> town. It was a Huffy Desert Rose (long, dramatic, wistful sigh here).The 
> story was that the bike had been backed over but -yay!- the man of the 
> house had welded the bike back into working order. I was THRILLED. I never 
> had training wheels - I learned by taking off and crashing all over the 
> neighborhood. I didn’t care if I was missing a lot of hide; I had wheels 
> and I was going places in my tiny North Dakota town.
>
> I would like to take this time to point out several things...
>
> 1. I really think they nailed the saddle height on the first try.
>
> 2. My bike had fenders! And they were clearly for decoration only.
>
> 3. What shoes was I wearing? I don’t know, but what I can tell you I 
> didn’t trouble myself with socks. 
>
> 4. My celebrity lookalike was Mowgli from the Jungle Book. 
>
> 6. Banana seats > Brooks saddles.
>
> 7. No need for racks/baskets. I put a friend or a little sister on the 
> banana seat and SHE carried the goods.
>
> 8. Kids were tougher in the 80s. That bike was huge for 5-year-old me, but 
> I rode it. Pedaling that bike felt like being stuck in the hardest gear 
> going uphill always (the welder dad overestimated his abilities), but I 
> rode the wheels off of it..most likely with flat tires.
>
> In closing, I might also point out that I was into Rivendell before 
> Rivendell was into Rivendell. Compare the Huffy with my Clementine - I was 
> an early adopter.
>
> This was the day the love affair began, friends. I am so happy to have a 
> photo of it. Who else has a story about their first bike? Bonus points if 
> you can also provide photos.
>
> Leah
>
> [image: 9836764F-6714-4872-9033-F9C64A034A14.jpeg]
> [image: C5046809-7A38-4544-909F-E0DEB1A60092.jpeg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Leah Peterson]

Brendanoid: I’d have never believed it but you have the photo. Age 3, landing 
jumps with no feet? Also, do I see a rear rack on that bike? YOU were more Riv 
than Riv. We should get patches made.

Matthew: You gave the cutoff for “our” haircut at 1980. My photo was taken in 
1986. North Dakota was always behind the trends! 

I love the quote.

Leah

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> On Aug 18, 2020, at 8:50 PM, brendonoid  wrote:
> 
> Landing a sick jump feet free on my 3rd birthday in 1986. Step through steel 
> frame with fat tyres, fenders and an albatross bar on quill stem as high as 
> it would go. My Riv future was assured...
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, 19 August 2020 at 10:20:50 UTC+8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Here is a thread that will veer just a bit from the normal subject matter. 
>> But it has been 112 degrees today, and we have to do something while we wait 
>> for our Platypus bikes. Going for a walk down memory lane is what we’re 
>> doing.
>> 
>> I recently found this treasure. Pictured is me, at 5 years old with my very 
>> first bike. My parents purchased it at a garage sale from a family in town. 
>> It was a Huffy Desert Rose (long, dramatic, wistful sigh here).The story was 
>> that the bike had been backed over but -yay!- the man of the house had 
>> welded the bike back into working order. I was THRILLED. I never had 
>> training wheels - I learned by taking off and crashing all over the 
>> neighborhood. I didn’t care if I was missing a lot of hide; I had wheels and 
>> I was going places in my tiny North Dakota town.
>> 
>> I would like to take this time to point out several things...
>> 
>> 1. I really think they nailed the saddle height on the first try.
>> 
>> 2. My bike had fenders! And they were clearly for decoration only.
>> 
>> 3. What shoes was I wearing? I don’t know, but what I can tell you I didn’t 
>> trouble myself with socks. 
>> 
>> 4. My celebrity lookalike was Mowgli from the Jungle Book. 
>> 
>> 6. Banana seats > Brooks saddles.
>> 
>> 7. No need for racks/baskets. I put a friend or a little sister on the 
>> banana seat and SHE carried the goods.
>> 
>> 8. Kids were tougher in the 80s. That bike was huge for 5-year-old me, but I 
>> rode it. Pedaling that bike felt like being stuck in the hardest gear going 
>> uphill always (the welder dad overestimated his abilities), but I rode the 
>> wheels off of it..most likely with flat tires.
>> 
>> In closing, I might also point out that I was into Rivendell before 
>> Rivendell was into Rivendell. Compare the Huffy with my Clementine - I was 
>> an early adopter.
>> 
>> This was the day the love affair began, friends. I am so happy to have a 
>> photo of it. Who else has a story about their first bike? Bonus points if 
>> you can also provide photos.
>> 
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Leah Peterson]

Matthew! You responded exactly in kind! Your story is fantastic, riveting - 
truly. And, fine, I admit it, your Schwinn Stingray was cooler than the Huffy 
Desert Rose.

I would also like to point out that we had the same haircut. 藍藍藍

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> On Aug 18, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Matthew Williams 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On a sunny Christmas morning in 1975, I got a fire-engine red Schwinn 
> Sting-Ray.
> 
> My brother, our friends, and I would ride our bikes every day after school 
> and all during the summer. Our parents had no idea where we were or what we 
> were doing--their only rule was, "Be home at six for dinner." They probably 
> thought we couldn't go far, but we rode through every alley and backstreet of 
> our town, and the neighboring town, and the town beyond that.
> 
> We'd ride down to the beach or along the cliffs above it, or into the nearby 
> state park where we'd look for bats in the caves, tease rattlesnakes, explore 
> the flood-control dams, and one summer we discovered a swing someone had made 
> from a stolen fire hose. I was seven years old, I had a bike, we had total 
> freedom, and the world was ours to explore.
> 
> <1975_Schwinn_StingRay_1.jpg>
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