[RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I wouldn't retire just yet. With the exception of big marquee names & 
models with high desirability and low supplies (and a 59cm Bridgestone xo-1 
in pumpkin is that) and/or high-end, pristine condition (and even here, 
some weakness), my impression is that the vintage market is pretty soft. 
Certainly in my neck of the woods this seems to be the case.

On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 10:22:12 AM UTC-4, El Sapo wrote:
>
> Nice. Wonder if the vintage bike market is following the stock market up 
> to new record high marks? Maybe time for me to cash out a couple of bikes. 
>
> On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 8:12:42 PM UTC-7, Mattt wrote:
>>
>> It went for $1,025.  Those with a XO-1 are smiling. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[El Sapo]

Nice. Wonder if the vintage bike market is following the stock market up to 
new record high marks? Maybe time for me to cash out a couple of bikes. 

On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 8:12:42 PM UTC-7, Mattt wrote:
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> It went for $1,025.  Those with a XO-1 are smiling. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[Ryan Fleming]

and I would agree that the Rivendells (I have a 97 A/R) are better bikes. 
Certainly better cosmetically. I don't think functionally my 97 Riv is 
several magnitudes better than the X0-1. The X0-1 is a fine, no frills 
bike. I'm glad I bought it and I have no intention yet of flea baying it. 
It's a fine commuter and it's fun to ride. Probably snappier than my A/R 
but I think the geometry's a little more aggressive

On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 5:54:23 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Joe: I owned a '92, and built and rode it in several configurations.* 
> Don't spend a great deal of money on one. As in my immediately earlier 
> post, any number of later, Rivendell-branded models are better than the 
> XO-1.
>
> I'm not saying the XO-1 was a bad bike, but it was a first attempt at 
> what, later, became much better.
>
> Now, if you collect frames like some people collect stamps, then yes, the 
> XO-1 deserves a pedestal for being an early '90s attempt at an all 
> rounder/country bike-type design. But for road riding, gravel road riding, 
> touring, urban commuting, what have you, the XO-1 has been surpassed long 
> since.
>
> *One build, which I recall fondly, was as my gofast: 28/38/48 Topline 
> Superlight triple, 12-19 7 speed cassette, road f and r derailleurs, 
> Cinelli Giro d'Italia 26.4 squeezed into T-Bone upjutter 25.4 (or did this 
> build have a custom Salsa?), very, very light sun M14A 559, 19 mm rims in 
> anodized purple with 8-speed Ultegra hubs, Revolution spokes, very nice 
> Specialized Turbo 559 X 22 tires (if these had been 1 cm larger, I'd still 
> be riding them), Syncros ti sp, original issue Flite (still love 'em), 
> Speedplay X-1 pedals, 7402 Dura Ace levers pulling some high end, normal 
> reach, cold forged, silver only calipers, and -- get this -- 
> GripShift-for-drop-bar shifters, big clunky grippers that fit onto the tail 
> end of your drop bar -- all plastic clicky bits.
>
> This bike had the kudos of hitting 48 mph at the bottom of a hill in a 48 
> X 12 X 24" tire (96" gear) while chasing an errant Range Rover -- 170 rpm!
>
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Joe Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> There's one on SF Craigslist now in my size, but somebody painted it red. 
>> It's been there forever, nobody wants a non-original-color XO-1, including 
>> me. My Holy Grail -1 is the '92 tusk one with road brakes. By today's/Riv's 
>> standards of gearing, brakes and tire clearance it's a silly bike, but I 
>> think it's cool beans. But they must not have sold many 'cause I haven't 
>> seen a 48 or 52cm one for sale in years.
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[RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[Joe Bernard]

Madness. MADNESS I SAY!

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[RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[Mattt]

It went for $1,025.  Those with a XO-1 are smiling. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[Joe Bernard]

I've owned a 48 and 52 XO-1, and 52 final year XO-3 (no tusk '92). They're 
interesting knock-around-town bikes, but my various Rivs were better bicycles. 
I still want a tusk XO for sentimental reasons and 'cause I like the way the 
stock bikes looked, but I'll probably never find one at a price I'm willing to 
pay. That's ok. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[Patrick Moore]

Joe: I owned a '92, and built and rode it in several configurations.* Don't
spend a great deal of money on one. As in my immediately earlier post, any
number of later, Rivendell-branded models are better than the XO-1.

I'm not saying the XO-1 was a bad bike, but it was a first attempt at what,
later, became much better.

Now, if you collect frames like some people collect stamps, then yes, the
XO-1 deserves a pedestal for being an early '90s attempt at an all
rounder/country bike-type design. But for road riding, gravel road riding,
touring, urban commuting, what have you, the XO-1 has been surpassed long
since.

*One build, which I recall fondly, was as my gofast: 28/38/48 Topline
Superlight triple, 12-19 7 speed cassette, road f and r derailleurs,
Cinelli Giro d'Italia 26.4 squeezed into T-Bone upjutter 25.4 (or did this
build have a custom Salsa?), very, very light sun M14A 559, 19 mm rims in
anodized purple with 8-speed Ultegra hubs, Revolution spokes, very nice
Specialized Turbo 559 X 22 tires (if these had been 1 cm larger, I'd still
be riding them), Syncros ti sp, original issue Flite (still love 'em),
Speedplay X-1 pedals, 7402 Dura Ace levers pulling some high end, normal
reach, cold forged, silver only calipers, and -- get this --
GripShift-for-drop-bar shifters, big clunky grippers that fit onto the tail
end of your drop bar -- all plastic clicky bits.

This bike had the kudos of hitting 48 mph at the bottom of a hill in a 48 X
12 X 24" tire (96" gear) while chasing an errant Range Rover -- 170 rpm!

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> There's one on SF Craigslist now in my size, but somebody painted it red.
> It's been there forever, nobody wants a non-original-color XO-1, including
> me. My Holy Grail -1 is the '92 tusk one with road brakes. By today's/Riv's
> standards of gearing, brakes and tire clearance it's a silly bike, but I
> think it's cool beans. But they must not have sold many 'cause I haven't
> seen a 48 or 52cm one for sale in years.
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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[Patrick Moore]

The prices asked, perhaps paid, for XO-1s must be purely the reasult of a
collectors' mentality, since the frames themselves are not exceptional
compared to what Grant made later on. Compared to the Atlantis, even the
Sam Hillborne, and even to the original Rivendell All Rounder, the XO-1 is
a low budget, nice but not exceptional, first foray into the world of a 26"
wheel "country bike." "Holy Grail" for name/model collectors, but not
compared to the much better frames that followed it.

Patrick "ask me how I know" Moore, who'll tell you without being asked: I
owned a '92 XO-1, then asked Grant to build me a 26" wheel road custom that
was "better" than the XO-1, and based on the All Rounder, but roadified;
this was head, shoulders, and waist above the XO-1; and then he built me 2
more that were in turn huge levels above the first custom which, itself,
was considerably better than the XO-1. And this doesn't even take into
account the Atlantis, the Sam Hill, and the other models which followed;
the Atlantis (from hearsay) and the Sam Hill (from experience) are both,
also, better than the XO-1.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 4:28 PM, El Sapo 
wrote:

>
>
> XO-1 is a Holy Grail bike. They pop up here in the Bay Area every once in
> a while. I haven't been watching so closely over the last year, but I
> remember a CL post where the owner was selling an X0-1 and an MB-Zipp  nice
> original condition. Maybe someone else here remembers. I think
> they asked $1300 for the X0 and $1100 for the MB-0. They both sold quickly.
> Bay Area probably the best market for a bikes like that
>
>>
>>
>>
>> In Winnipeg, MB I have only seen 1 other 1993 X0-1 besides mine.
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[Joe Bernard]

There's one on SF Craigslist now in my size, but somebody painted it red. It's 
been there forever, nobody wants a non-original-color XO-1, including me. My 
Holy Grail -1 is the '92 tusk one with road brakes. By today's/Riv's standards 
of gearing, brakes and tire clearance it's a silly bike, but I think it's cool 
beans. But they must not have sold many 'cause I haven't seen a 48 or 52cm one 
for sale in years. 

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[RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[El Sapo]

XO-1 is a Holy Grail bike. They pop up here in the Bay Area every once in a 
while. I haven't been watching so closely over the last year, but I 
remember a CL post where the owner was selling an X0-1 and an MB-Zipp  nice 
original condition. Maybe someone else here remembers. I think 
they asked $1300 for the X0 and $1100 for the MB-0. They both sold quickly. 
Bay Area probably the best market for a bikes like that 

>
>
>
> In Winnipeg, MB I have only seen 1 other 1993 X0-1 besides mine.
>
>
>>  

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[RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[Ryan Fleming]

BTW, interestingly enough the product page for Tanaka water bottle cages at 
RBW shows a well-broken in 1993 X0-1

https://www.rivbike.com/products/tanaka-stainless-water-bottle-cage-sandblast  


I wonder whose  bike...is it a customer's or employee's?

It is interesting that after 24 years these  bikes still  pop up here and 
there.Rusty or not, they seem to attract attention; even people who don't 
know anything about their cult status are intrigued by them.

In Winnipeg, MB I have only seen 1 other 1993 X0-1 besides mine.

On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 2:45:37 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I'm all for folks spending whatever they want for an old bike, I'm just 
> concerned about the condition of this one. But hey, if someone wants to 
> chase rust, have at it!

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[RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[Joe Bernard]

I'm all for folks spending whatever they want for an old bike, I'm just 
concerned about the condition of this one. But hey, if someone wants to chase 
rust, have at it!

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[RBW] Re: XO-1 frame for sale

[El Sapo]

>
> I'm a vintage mountain bike collector, so I hope that frame goes over $1K. 
>

You can rationalize the price however you want. It only takes a couple of 
people willing to pay the price, who bid against each other and aren't 
going to sweat $2-3 hundred over what might be fair and reasonable.

I've been there. You want the bike not the money.

How much is a used Atlantis?  

>   
>
 
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