[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
I stand on the non drive stand side and hold the seat tube from inside the rear triangle with my right hand and grab the stem or handlebars with my left. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
I stand on the non drive train side and hold the seat tube from inside the rear triangle with my right hand and grab the stem or handlebars with my left. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
Ditto, except going up stairs I have the handlebars behind me and steady the bike by grabbing the rear rack with my left hand. Tony On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 8:06:46 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: I reach over the bike, grab the downtube with my right hand kind of low, and grab the bars with the left. I can alter the angle to go up or down stairs pretty easily. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
I really like the look of those leather straps. Do they fit above the front derailleur? I have narrow twisty halls in our apartment, and we're up two flights of stairs, so I can understand the why some people are drawn to single speeds messenger bags / backpacks when it comes to navigating the city. I found it easiest to roll my Hunqapillar along on its back wheel to navigate corners, so no fenders, and I use bags I can carry with shoulder straps, usually a re-purposed messenger bag as a front basket bag, plus a saddlebag. And I use a Lezyne Micro Floor drive that fits in my bag, so I can use the top tube for carrying my Hunq if need be. And I usually say a prayer to Lord Ganesha to keep the elevator (and my knees) working. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
I had no problem mounting the Walnut Studio's leather bike handle over the derailleur and below the bottle cage. Perfect fit. The only problem was that there wasn't enough space between bottle cages for a hand. That's why one bottle would have to go to make it work. Wasn't willing to give up a second bottle so the handle was returned. If the Hillborne came with a third, lower cage, I probably would have shed the seat tube cage and kept the handle. They are really nice and would have been handy getting in and out of SF BART stations. I even considered the two-fish bottle cage just to keep the handle. Started to feel a little Frankenstein to me so I didn't go there. John On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 10:14:09 AM UTC-7, John wrote: I really like the look of those leather straps. Do they fit above the front derailleur? I have narrow twisty halls in our apartment, and we're up two flights of stairs, so I can understand the why some people are drawn to single speeds messenger bags / backpacks when it comes to navigating the city. I found it easiest to roll my Hunqapillar along on its back wheel to navigate corners, so no fenders, and I use bags I can carry with shoulder straps, usually a re-purposed messenger bag as a front basket bag, plus a saddlebag. And I use a Lezyne Micro Floor drive that fits in my bag, so I can use the top tube for carrying my Hunq if need be. And I usually say a prayer to Lord Ganesha to keep the elevator (and my knees) working. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
If the stairs ain't too steep... I give a tug on my chinstrap, sit way back behind the saddle on top of my Carradice, grab both brakes and gently thump down a stair at a time... :) ... but usually I do the seat tube grab method... to me that just feels like the most central place to grab and hoist. BB On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 8:36:45 AM UTC-4, Leslie wrote: So, I used to head from the workshop/basement out through the garage w/o having to take the steps; and the others' bikes are hanging in the garage anyway, so when we're going out through the garage to get theirs, there aren't stairs involved. But a lot of the time, I'm riding solo w/o the others, and I'd left the water-bottles in the kitchen, and my helmet in the hall, so... I end up taking the bike up the stairs and out the front door. Or I arrive home, garage door is closed and I don't have an opener w/ me, so the bike comes in the front door and gets parked in the hall for a bit... at that point, I'm taking it down the stairs instead of out and around to the garage door so, yeah, I end up taking the bike up and down the stairs more often than I thought I ever would. But with the way the stairs are narrow (well, maybe not 'narrow', but, certainly not wide, and, they're not 'open', you have walls on both sides), and with the way the overhead ceiling is at the bottom landing, I really couldn't shoulder a bike or carry it. SO, I simply stand near the back wheel (behind the cranks, so I don't catch a pedal w/ my shin), hands on the handlebar, and roll it up, or down, the stairs I like the idea of the grab-handle at the bottle cages, but, I don't have a handle there, and I manage it as-is, so yeah, I just roll it FWIW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
How does a person pedal uphill with 50-60lbs on their bike. It was all I could do to ride up 7% grades in my lowest gear at the end of the last ride I did with just a light front handlebar load on the bike. My engine was blown at the time but still.., -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
Drew: I use my super secret prototype anti-gravity unit I found in the trash while dumpster diving in the future. You all think I ride up all these mountains? Grin. I don't do stairs though. They monkey with my vertigo big time, so I'm not sure how an anti-grav unit would effect your experience. Lungimsam! Pedal, one foot after the other. My bike fully loaded with food and water and gear for a week of fun weighs 280 pounds including 200 pound engine. That's all pre-antigrav unit, of course. It weighs minus ten pounds when I get to hills (depending on speed and grade -- the biggest trick is matching momentum to grade to anti-pounds. After that the biggest trick is looking like I'm pedaling hard. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:48:10 PM UTC-6, drew wrote: I'm somewhat consoled that I'm not alone in this, and that I am not missing some secret technique. The leather strap is so appealing. It's a shame that it won't work on most bottled bikes On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:06:40 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: silly question, but every time i have to go up or over something, i seem to try a different way of grabbing the bike and each way feels awkward or unstable or bad for me. i've always been a shoulderer, but a frame pump up along the top tube ruins that, and doing this down stairs with a super heavy bike makes me nervous. carrying it like THIS seems like a good position, but i have too much derailleur/bottle cage action in that area for this to work on my bike. of late, ive been reaching over in a similar fashion and grabbing the seatube, but again, the bottle makes it so that i am grabbing it pretty high up and just lifting with my arms. considering getting a smaller frame pump that i can put along the seat stay to clear up the top tube for shouldering, but i feel like there has to be a simple maneuver that im missing. anyone have this figured out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
On 06/04/2015 02:14 AM, Lungimsam wrote: How does a person pedal uphill with 50-60lbs on their bike. Slowly? It was all I could do to ride up 7% grades in my lowest gear at the end of the last ride I did with just a light front handlebar load on the bike. My engine was blown at the time but still.., You do need lower gears, to be sure. There's a reason a loaded touring bike like a Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road Tour comes with a 22T granny ring and a 32 or 34T large rear sprocket. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
Take bags off your bike, disassemble your bike into two, and go back forth 4 times. https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/7726592086/ Takashi 2015年6月4日木曜日 2時06分40秒 UTC+9 drew: silly question, but every time i have to go up or over something, i seem to try a different way of grabbing the bike and each way feels awkward or unstable or bad for me. i've always been a shoulderer, but a frame pump up along the top tube ruins that, and doing this down stairs with a super heavy bike makes me nervous. carrying it like THIS https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0156/2360/products/Bicycle-Frame-Handle-ErinBerzelPhotography-4263_large.jpg?v=1380321457 seems like a good position, but i have too much derailleur/bottle cage action in that area for this to work on my bike. of late, ive been reaching over in a similar fashion and grabbing the seatube, but again, the bottle makes it so that i am grabbing it pretty high up and just lifting with my arms. considering getting a smaller frame pump that i can put along the seat stay to clear up the top tube for shouldering, but i feel like there has to be a simple maneuver that im missing. anyone have this figured out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
So, I used to head from the workshop/basement out through the garage w/o having to take the steps; and the others' bikes are hanging in the garage anyway, so when we're going out through the garage to get theirs, there aren't stairs involved. But a lot of the time, I'm riding solo w/o the others, and I'd left the water-bottles in the kitchen, and my helmet in the hall, so... I end up taking the bike up the stairs and out the front door. Or I arrive home, garage door is closed and I don't have an opener w/ me, so the bike comes in the front door and gets parked in the hall for a bit... at that point, I'm taking it down the stairs instead of out and around to the garage door so, yeah, I end up taking the bike up and down the stairs more often than I thought I ever would. But with the way the stairs are narrow (well, maybe not 'narrow', but, certainly not wide, and, they're not 'open', you have walls on both sides), and with the way the overhead ceiling is at the bottom landing, I really couldn't shoulder a bike or carry it. SO, I simply stand near the back wheel (behind the cranks, so I don't catch a pedal w/ my shin), hands on the handlebar, and roll it up, or down, the stairs I like the idea of the grab-handle at the bottle cages, but, I don't have a handle there, and I manage it as-is, so yeah, I just roll it FWIW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
Grant made a handle out of tape and posted photos on the BLUG years back. I'm tempted to get or make something like this. I think you can buy this one on Etsy: https://img1.etsystatic.com/056/0/10243598/il_570xN.680016343_cnrl.jpg On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:06:40 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: silly question, but every time i have to go up or over something, i seem to try a different way of grabbing the bike and each way feels awkward or unstable or bad for me. i've always been a shoulderer, but a frame pump up along the top tube ruins that, and doing this down stairs with a super heavy bike makes me nervous. carrying it like THIS https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0156/2360/products/Bicycle-Frame-Handle-ErinBerzelPhotography-4263_large.jpg?v=1380321457 seems like a good position, but i have too much derailleur/bottle cage action in that area for this to work on my bike. of late, ive been reaching over in a similar fashion and grabbing the seatube, but again, the bottle makes it so that i am grabbing it pretty high up and just lifting with my arms. considering getting a smaller frame pump that i can put along the seat stay to clear up the top tube for shouldering, but i feel like there has to be a simple maneuver that im missing. anyone have this figured out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
My wife bought me a beautiful, honey-colored handle by Walnut Studios in Portland, OR (http://walnutstudiolo.com/). It really was very well built and an almost perfect match to my honey Brooks. Unfortunately, on a Hillborne, you'd have to ditch one of the water bottle cages for it to work. There was no space between cages for a hand to grab the handle. Nicole, who works at Bike, Book and Hatchet had one on her Cheviot and it was a perfect fit. I'd highly recommend one if it fits your bike with room to grab it. John On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:06:40 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: silly question, but every time i have to go up or over something, i seem to try a different way of grabbing the bike and each way feels awkward or unstable or bad for me. i've always been a shoulderer, but a frame pump up along the top tube ruins that, and doing this down stairs with a super heavy bike makes me nervous. carrying it like THIS https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0156/2360/products/Bicycle-Frame-Handle-ErinBerzelPhotography-4263_large.jpg?v=1380321457 seems like a good position, but i have too much derailleur/bottle cage action in that area for this to work on my bike. of late, ive been reaching over in a similar fashion and grabbing the seatube, but again, the bottle makes it so that i am grabbing it pretty high up and just lifting with my arms. considering getting a smaller frame pump that i can put along the seat stay to clear up the top tube for shouldering, but i feel like there has to be a simple maneuver that im missing. anyone have this figured out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
I like the look of handles but...bottle cages. So what I mostly do is to reach over the top tube, extend my arm and hand along the seat tube on the side opposite my body (usually, the bike is to my right, so) and I grab the seat tube near the BBish end. This is a tad bit more awkward since I put my pump to the rear of the ST, but it seems to work OK. I've been doing this for some years, ever since moving to Connecticut and using the basement to store my bikes, which necessitates bringing the bike up to ground level through a hatch door. This approach is nice because I can steady the fork with my left hand. I've thought a lot about that leather handle, though, and how I might come up with one that didn't mean giving up a bottle or two. On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 1:06:40 PM UTC-4, drew wrote: silly question, but every time i have to go up or over something, i seem to try a different way of grabbing the bike and each way feels awkward or unstable or bad for me. i've always been a shoulderer, but a frame pump up along the top tube ruins that, and doing this down stairs with a super heavy bike makes me nervous. carrying it like THIS https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0156/2360/products/Bicycle-Frame-Handle-ErinBerzelPhotography-4263_large.jpg?v=1380321457 seems like a good position, but i have too much derailleur/bottle cage action in that area for this to work on my bike. of late, ive been reaching over in a similar fashion and grabbing the seatube, but again, the bottle makes it so that i am grabbing it pretty high up and just lifting with my arms. considering getting a smaller frame pump that i can put along the seat stay to clear up the top tube for shouldering, but i feel like there has to be a simple maneuver that im missing. anyone have this figured out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
TWO-TEE-TEE-BOOM!!! On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 8:46:09 PM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: Drew, This won't help you but I can't help but point out that this is where a 2TT bike shines !!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
Drew, This won't help you but I can't help but point out that this is where a 2TT bike shines !!! Matt On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:06:40 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: silly question, but every time i have to go up or over something, i seem to try a different way of grabbing the bike and each way feels awkward or unstable or bad for me. i've always been a shoulderer, but a frame pump up along the top tube ruins that, and doing this down stairs with a super heavy bike makes me nervous. carrying it like THIS https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0156/2360/products/Bicycle-Frame-Handle-ErinBerzelPhotography-4263_large.jpg?v=1380321457 seems like a good position, but i have too much derailleur/bottle cage action in that area for this to work on my bike. of late, ive been reaching over in a similar fashion and grabbing the seatube, but again, the bottle makes it so that i am grabbing it pretty high up and just lifting with my arms. considering getting a smaller frame pump that i can put along the seat stay to clear up the top tube for shouldering, but i feel like there has to be a simple maneuver that im missing. anyone have this figured out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
When you say loaded and super heavy, I assume you're talking about the bike with substantial luggage. That gets really awkward, with the front wheel wanting to pivot and panniers adding their weight access limitations. In those situations, I take the bags off make in 2 moves. PITA of course but I can't really lift 50-60 lbs and man handle it up or down stairs. In general, I use Andrew's technique for the bike itself. Taking the bags off creates its own set of difficulties in crowded situations or sketchy areas. dougP On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:06:40 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: silly question, but every time i have to go up or over something, i seem to try a different way of grabbing the bike and each way feels awkward or unstable or bad for me. i've always been a shoulderer, but a frame pump up along the top tube ruins that, and doing this down stairs with a super heavy bike makes me nervous. carrying it like THIS https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0156/2360/products/Bicycle-Frame-Handle-ErinBerzelPhotography-4263_large.jpg?v=1380321457 seems like a good position, but i have too much derailleur/bottle cage action in that area for this to work on my bike. of late, ive been reaching over in a similar fashion and grabbing the seatube, but again, the bottle makes it so that i am grabbing it pretty high up and just lifting with my arms. considering getting a smaller frame pump that i can put along the seat stay to clear up the top tube for shouldering, but i feel like there has to be a simple maneuver that im missing. anyone have this figured out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: how do you carry your loaded bike?
Haha I have a 2tt hillborne! But it is set up light. The hunqapillar is a single top tube with racks and bags and fenders and a sprung saddle. Definitely a chore to carry up and down things. I'm somewhat consoled that I'm not alone in this, and that I am not missing some secret technique. The leather strap is so appealing. It's a shame that it won't work on most bottled bikes On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:06:40 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: silly question, but every time i have to go up or over something, i seem to try a different way of grabbing the bike and each way feels awkward or unstable or bad for me. i've always been a shoulderer, but a frame pump up along the top tube ruins that, and doing this down stairs with a super heavy bike makes me nervous. carrying it like THIS seems like a good position, but i have too much derailleur/bottle cage action in that area for this to work on my bike. of late, ive been reaching over in a similar fashion and grabbing the seatube, but again, the bottle makes it so that i am grabbing it pretty high up and just lifting with my arms. considering getting a smaller frame pump that i can put along the seat stay to clear up the top tube for shouldering, but i feel like there has to be a simple maneuver that im missing. anyone have this figured out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
