Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
And +1 for the Bagman. I recently installed one on my mountain bike, to keep the Nelson off the tire. Much better than the VO seatpost clamp support. On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Mark mclbicy...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the saddlebag. A Carradice Barley needs no rear rack on all but the smallest of bikes and you can use a Bagman for a larger bag like a Nelson Longflap or Camper. Here is a link to my setup. I'm carrying everything for an extended tour and the only rack on the bike is an Expedition Bagman. http://wheelsofchance.org/2009/08/23/carradice-expedition-bagman-review/ This takes my vote!!!Nice looking Clive! Surf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
That sounds pretty groovy to mewow, I hadn't thought about it that way but what a simple solution. As a bag support or for something to carry lightweight things like extra clothing it sounds perfect. do you have any idea how much weight will it hold? I had planned to do something similar with steel tubing as a bag support with the option of a bolt on section that could be added for a small pannier (Berthoud) later on. On Nov 22, 8:21 pm, Steve Vesel steveonb...@hotmail.com wrote: Sounds like a good project Charlie. I wanted to do something similar for my protovelo, which has two sets of braze-ons on the seatstays. I didn't have access to a brazing torch, so in the end I ordered a set of the nitto aluminium rack struts from Riv, and bought a metre of 10mm x 5mm aluminum from my local hardware store. I bent the 5 x 10 into a U shape which forms the platform of the rack. Two holes drilled for the struts, and two at the ends of the U for the upper seatstay mounts, and a fifth at the base of the U to hold the rear mudguard with a 90 degree bracket. The mudguard keeps the bag from contacting the tyre. Total cost about $25 and 45 minutes with a file and drill. Weight is somewhere around 200 grams. Don't have any pictures of this, but hope the above description makes sense. Cheers Stevy Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:54:57 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack From: charles_v...@hotmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I plan on building my own lightweight commuter racks for use with special home made thin panniers and as a bag support...the front one will be for mounting lights and a small bag for tools, wallet. etc. I want to use stainless tubing but may just use light gauge chrome moly and powdercoat to match my frame. All you need is a tubing bender, torch and some hand tools.I have that so...we'll see how soon I get them done. ;) On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. _ Looking for a date? View photos of singles in your area!http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
Why do you need the rack? Consider the following, that doesn't need a rack: Medium Sackville Saddle-sack: http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks?a=1page=all#product=20-132 Saddlebag Grip (Nitto): http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks?a=1page=all#product=20-109 This way, you can easily remove the saddlebag, that will easily fit all your clothes and sutff, when you lock your bike in those high crime areas you mention... The medium Saddlesack doesn't require a rack. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
RE: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
how much weight will it hold? 70kg. I sat on it ;-)) . It's not long enough to hang a set of panniers, but I'd be happy to carry whatever I can fit into a rack bag or saddle bag all day. Version 2.0 will have some holes drilled along the sides to use as lashing points. The aluminum polishes up nicely, but it does rub off on the bags, so you might want to wrap it in tape. Cheers Steve Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:41:12 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack From: charles_v...@hotmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com That sounds pretty groovy to mewow, I hadn't thought about it that way but what a simple solution. As a bag support or for something to carry lightweight things like extra clothing it sounds perfect. do you have any idea how much weight will it hold? I had planned to do something similar with steel tubing as a bag support with the option of a bolt on section that could be added for a small pannier (Berthoud) later on. On Nov 22, 8:21 pm, Steve Vesel steveonb...@hotmail.com wrote: Sounds like a good project Charlie. I wanted to do something similar for my protovelo, which has two sets of braze-ons on the seatstays. I didn't have access to a brazing torch, so in the end I ordered a set of the nitto aluminium rack struts from Riv, and bought a metre of 10mm x 5mm aluminum from my local hardware store. I bent the 5 x 10 into a U shape which forms the platform of the rack. Two holes drilled for the struts, and two at the ends of the U for the upper seatstay mounts, and a fifth at the base of the U to hold the rear mudguard with a 90 degree bracket. The mudguard keeps the bag from contacting the tyre. Total cost about $25 and 45 minutes with a file and drill. Weight is somewhere around 200 grams. Don't have any pictures of this, but hope the above description makes sense. Cheers Stevy Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:54:57 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack From: charles_v...@hotmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I plan on building my own lightweight commuter racks for use with special home made thin panniers and as a bag support...the front one will be for mounting lights and a small bag for tools, wallet. etc. I want to use stainless tubing but may just use light gauge chrome moly and powdercoat to match my frame. All you need is a tubing bender, torch and some hand tools.I have that so...we'll see how soon I get them done. ;) On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. _ Looking for a date? View photos of singles in your area!http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. _ Looking for a date? View photos of singles in your area! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
Wow that Berthoud setup looks like something you'd see on a bike belonging to Hercule Poirot, sitting in front of a 5-star hotel. On Nov 21, 1:07 pm, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to avoid your legs from hitting the bags of typical saddlebag set-ups, look at this.http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/saddlebagrack.html It's no lightweight champ,but what's not to like? I see Lon Haldeman uses these on his Bike Friday Bike .http://community.bikefriday.com/sites/default/files/images/WEB-AF-lon... He also some other type that are similar but I can't make the brand.http://frank.harvard.edu/~coldwell/bicycle/PBP/photos/lrg/haldeman.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
RE: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
Sounds like a good project Charlie. I wanted to do something similar for my protovelo, which has two sets of braze-ons on the seatstays. I didn't have access to a brazing torch, so in the end I ordered a set of the nitto aluminium rack struts from Riv, and bought a metre of 10mm x 5mm aluminum from my local hardware store. I bent the 5 x 10 into a U shape which forms the platform of the rack. Two holes drilled for the struts, and two at the ends of the U for the upper seatstay mounts, and a fifth at the base of the U to hold the rear mudguard with a 90 degree bracket. The mudguard keeps the bag from contacting the tyre. Total cost about $25 and 45 minutes with a file and drill. Weight is somewhere around 200 grams. Don't have any pictures of this, but hope the above description makes sense. Cheers Stevy Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:54:57 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack From: charles_v...@hotmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I plan on building my own lightweight commuter racks for use with special home made thin panniers and as a bag support...the front one will be for mounting lights and a small bag for tools, wallet. etc. I want to use stainless tubing but may just use light gauge chrome moly and powdercoat to match my frame. All you need is a tubing bender, torch and some hand tools.I have that so...we'll see how soon I get them done. ;) On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. _ Looking for a date? View photos of singles in your area! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
I have the Tubus Fly on my Pedersen, I also have the Berthoud gb799 small panniers Here are a couple of pix. http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr77/surfn54/Pedersen%20Bicycle/PEDERSEN040-1.jpg http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr77/surfn54/Pedersen%20Bicycle/PEDERSEN042-1.jpg I highly recommend! Perfect for what you are looking for! Surf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
+1 on the saddlebag. A Carradice Barley needs no rear rack on all but the smallest of bikes and you can use a Bagman for a larger bag like a Nelson Longflap or Camper. Here is a link to my setup. I'm carrying everything for an extended tour and the only rack on the bike is an Expedition Bagman. http://wheelsofchance.org/2009/08/23/carradice-expedition-bagman-review/ This takes my vote!!!Nice looking Clive! Surf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 20:23 -0700, rswat...@me.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2009, at 19:58, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: The old MAFAC rack does look interesting if it could somehow merge with cantilever brakes. It can! I've seen it done. Someone took just the center mount piece off a MAFAC Racer brake, bolted the little rack to the two bare studs, then bolted the whole contraption to the seatstay bridge of a cantilever equipped bike. I wish I could find a photo of it. Actually, I doubt a photo is required. Once you describe it, it's obvious, and there's only one way it would go together. But -- and this is a big but -- would a rack truck fit on one? I think it would be too small. It might work for keeping a seat bag off a tire on a small sized frame, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
You can get a mini rack that hangs off the saddle or the seatpost to support a medium or small saddle bag. Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Fri, 11/20/09, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com Subject: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:03 PM Just get a small saddle bag then. The least obtrusive is nothing, right? On Nov 20, 7:15 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
On 11/20/09, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: I do have a saddlebag, but it's too small in the winter and it's canvas, I don't want to soak it. ??? They are (at least the Carradices are) built to take it. I've carried water in my Nelson with nary a leak -- really. And a Camper is pretty big. I already have a nylon 'trunk' bag which is perfectly sized, but I don't need the support of the big rack. Nitro R14: too nice, too expensive, a target for thieves. I sometimes park in dodgy spots. The hupe: a saddlbag support, won't work with a rectangular trunk bag. Tubus fly: also very expensive. $100; not too bad. Cheaper than a Camper. Mark's rack - close to what I want, but too expensive, too short horizontally Basically the need is for winter, to stow bulky but lightweigh items like a sweater. I know, I'm being difficult here. I had some dim memory of Riv making a sort of partially supported rear rack. Actually I'm thinking about making something myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
Moots - yest that setup looks neat. And the R14 is probably worth the money. Thanks for the tips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
I plan on building my own lightweight commuter racks for use with special home made thin panniers and as a bag support...the front one will be for mounting lights and a small bag for tools, wallet. etc. I want to use stainless tubing but may just use light gauge chrome moly and powdercoat to match my frame. All you need is a tubing bender, torch and some hand tools.I have that so...we'll see how soon I get them done. ;) On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out there? How about this Vetta Rack? Aluminum and pretty light. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556...@n06/4121848193/ Top struts mount to the usual rear rack mounting spots. The lower mounts will need braze ons or P clamps. For sale if anyone's interested. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
That's sort of what I was looking for, although it looks short front- to-back. Apparently Vetta no longer makes them? How about this Vetta Rack? Aluminum and pretty light.http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556...@n06/4121848193/ Top struts mount to the usual rear rack mounting spots. The lower mounts will need braze ons or P clamps. For sale if anyone's interested. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
If you want to avoid your legs from hitting the bags of typical saddlebag set-ups, look at this. http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/saddlebagrack.html It's no lightweight champ,but what's not to like? I see Lon Haldeman uses these on his Bike Friday Bike . http://community.bikefriday.com/sites/default/files/images/WEB-AF-lon-haldeman-RAAM200.jpg He also some other type that are similar but I can't make the brand. http://frank.harvard.edu/~coldwell/bicycle/PBP/photos/lrg/haldeman.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
About 24x13cm platform. Rack alone weighs 320g, 440g with the bag-o-hardware that came with it. Ryan On Nov 21, 2009, at 11:53 AM, jim_OLP wrote: That's sort of what I was looking for, although it looks short front- to-back. Apparently Vetta no longer makes them? How about this Vetta Rack? Aluminum and pretty light.http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556...@n06/4121848193/ Top struts mount to the usual rear rack mounting spots. The lower mounts will need braze ons or P clamps. For sale if anyone's interested. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl= . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 08:30 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: On 11/20/09, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: I do have a saddlebag, but it's too small in the winter and it's canvas, I don't want to soak it. ??? They are (at least the Carradices are) built to take it. I've carried water in my Nelson with nary a leak -- really. And a Camper is pretty big. I accidentally ended up with a Carradice full of water, too. I'd bought a large bottle of seltzer on a ride, drank a small bit, put the bottle in the bag and didn't check that the top was really screwed down tight. It wasn't, and the gas pressure opened it. When I looked in the bag a couple of hours later, I was shocked to see my wallet under several inches of water. The bag was completely dry on the outside. It took hours to dry out the wallet... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
No laundered money doesn't work here. Wish it did. Maybe just clean cash? Have used the R-14 and really is nice with a rack bag. But no, maybe not the thing for a high crime area. Maybe the VO Constructeur rack? Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Nov 21, 3:13�pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: I accidentally ended up with a Carradice full of water, too. �I'd bought a large bottle of seltzer on a ride, drank a small bit, put the bottle in the bag and didn't check that the top was really screwed down tight. It wasn't, and the gas pressure opened it. �When I looked in the bag a couple of hours later, I was shocked to see my wallet under several inches of water. �The bag was completely dry on the outside. �It took hours to dry out the wallet... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
do you hate the looks of the Nitto R14. I can understand not being fond of the price, but what's not to like about the looks. Think it's petty light too. A little heavier I guess, but not near the bucks, would be the Pletscher rack at Riv. That one mounts front or rear and looks damn good enough. After that you might consider a post mounted rack, or big seat bag. Spend the money, get a Nitto. http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks?a=1page=all#product=20-095 On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
Jim: First of all, beware the slippery slope you are about to descend. Once you've put a rack on one bike, you'll never be able to turn back. Racks and luggage are addictive, and there's no 12 step program to get you off them. If you're as minimalist as you say, look at adapting Mark's rack (from Riv) to a rear mount and use the small Saddlesack trunk bag or Lil Loafer. I've used a Nitto (same platform as Mark's) as a saddlebag support. A small tunk bag will hold wallet, phone, keys, lunch, tube levers, and maybe a shell. The other option if you dis-like the look of a rack is a small saddle bag such as one from Acorn http://www.acornbags.com/medbag.html or others who make bags to mount to the saddle seat post. Not sure if Riv still has anything small. Velo Orange may well have some cool stuff too. dougP On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
Just get a small saddle bag then. The least obtrusive is nothing, right? On Nov 20, 7:15 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
+1 on the saddlebag. A Carradice Barley needs no rear rack on all but the smallest of bikes and you can use a Bagman for a larger bag like a Nelson Longflap or Camper. Here is a link to my setup. I'm carrying everything for an extended tour and the only rack on the bike is an Expedition Bagman. http://wheelsofchance.org/2009/08/23/carradice-expedition-bagman-review/ Also I'm not a fan of the hupe as it can easily mess up the paint on the seat stays. On Nov 20, 9:03 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Just get a small saddle bag then. The least obtrusive is nothing, right? On Nov 20, 7:15 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
R14 - Nitto is beautiful, but $105 makes it a target for thieves. And they don't even have a photo showing the entire rack, I couldn't see how it's actually mounted, I assume those rods go down to the dropouts... On Nov 20, 7:30 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: do you hate the looks of the Nitto R14. I can understand not being fond of the price, but what's not to like about the looks. Think it's petty light too. A little heavier I guess, but not near the bucks, would be the Pletscher rack at Riv. That one mounts front or rear and looks damn good enough. After that you might consider a post mounted rack, or big seat bag. Spend the money, get a Nitto. http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks?a=1page=all#prod... On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Most people seem to be looking for the strongest rear rack they can find. They're carrying engine blocks down pothole-lined streets, or crossing Mongolia solo. I want the opposite - the lightest, least obtrusive rack there is. The rack for minimalists. I want to use a trunk' bag but I hate the look of standard rear racks that bolt on to the dropouts, and I'm never carrying anything at all heavy. Ideally I want something about 1/3 that weight and complexity. What is out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
I do have a saddlebag, but it's too small in the winter and it's canvas, I don't want to soak it. I already have a nylon 'trunk' bag which is perfectly sized, but I don't need the support of the big rack. Nitro R14: too nice, too expensive, a target for thieves. I sometimes park in dodgy spots. The hupe: a saddlbag support, won't work with a rectangular trunk bag. Tubus fly: also very expensive. Mark's rack - close to what I want, but too expensive, too short horizontally Basically the need is for winter, to stow bulky but lightweigh items like a sweater. I know, I'm being difficult here. I had some dim memory of Riv making a sort of partially supported rear rack. Actually I'm thinking about making something myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
The old MAFAC rack does look interesting if it could somehow merge with cantilever brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
On Nov 20, 2009, at 19:58, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: The old MAFAC rack does look interesting if it could somehow merge with cantilever brakes. It can! I've seen it done. Someone took just the center mount piece off a MAFAC Racer brake, bolted the little rack to the two bare studs, then bolted the whole contraption to the seatstay bridge of a cantilever equipped bike. I wish I could find a photo of it. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:52 PM, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: Tubus fly: also very expensive. Well I was going to point out the Tubus Airy, but I guess you wouldn't like that either. Looks like a great rack, though!! I have the Luna, and I think it's great. A little narrow for a trunk bag, but I use panniers. Horace. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
I'd also recommend a large saddlebag, but if you're looking specifically for a lightweight rack and don't want to spend $100, get the Pletscher. Aluminum, light, carries enough. Why not? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: I do have a saddlebag, but it's too small in the winter and it's canvas, I don't want to soak it. I already have a nylon 'trunk' bag which is perfectly sized, but I don't need the support of the big rack. Nitro R14: too nice, too expensive, a target for thieves. I sometimes park in dodgy spots. The hupe: a saddlbag support, won't work with a rectangular trunk bag. Tubus fly: also very expensive. Mark's rack - close to what I want, but too expensive, too short horizontally Basically the need is for winter, to stow bulky but lightweigh items like a sweater. I know, I'm being difficult here. I had some dim memory of Riv making a sort of partially supported rear rack. Actually I'm thinking about making something myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
Moots http://aebike.com/product/moots-tailgator-ti-rear-rack-w-bag-sku-rk1820-qc30.htm On Nov 20, 8:38 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also recommend a large saddlebag, but if you're looking specifically for a lightweight rack and don't want to spend $100, get the Pletscher. Aluminum, light, carries enough. Why not? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: I do have a saddlebag, but it's too small in the winter and it's canvas, I don't want to soak it. I already have a nylon 'trunk' bag which is perfectly sized, but I don't need the support of the big rack. Nitro R14: too nice, too expensive, a target for thieves. I sometimes park in dodgy spots. The hupe: a saddlbag support, won't work with a rectangular trunk bag. Tubus fly: also very expensive. Mark's rack - close to what I want, but too expensive, too short horizontally Basically the need is for winter, to stow bulky but lightweigh items like a sweater. I know, I'm being difficult here. I had some dim memory of Riv making a sort of partially supported rear rack. Actually I'm thinking about making something myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: lightest rear rack
Moots Tailgator Rack and Bag A must for any rider seeking a lightweight performance rack pack. With 400 cubic inches and carrying capacity of 5 lbs, this carrying system provides ample room to store all your essentials. Two shims are included to fit a range of seatpost diameters. The custom made tailgator bags come with a durable Hypalon bottom for added abrasion resistance and securily attaches to our own unique low profile titanium rack. Each component comes with a 2 year limited warranty. WEIGHT: Rack + one shim= 125 grams Complete System= 400 grams or 13.8 ounces On Nov 20, 10:01 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: Moots http://aebike.com/product/moots-tailgator-ti-rear-rack-w-bag-sku-rk18... On Nov 20, 8:38 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also recommend a large saddlebag, but if you're looking specifically for a lightweight rack and don't want to spend $100, get the Pletscher. Aluminum, light, carries enough. Why not? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote: I do have a saddlebag, but it's too small in the winter and it's canvas, I don't want to soak it. I already have a nylon 'trunk' bag which is perfectly sized, but I don't need the support of the big rack. Nitro R14: too nice, too expensive, a target for thieves. I sometimes park in dodgy spots. The hupe: a saddlbag support, won't work with a rectangular trunk bag. Tubus fly: also very expensive. Mark's rack - close to what I want, but too expensive, too short horizontally Basically the need is for winter, to stow bulky but lightweigh items like a sweater. I know, I'm being difficult here. I had some dim memory of Riv making a sort of partially supported rear rack. Actually I'm thinking about making something myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
