Re: [RBW] What's that response called, and which model has it?

2013-04-04 Thread Seth Vidal
I have a rom and an AHH. If you go from one bike to the other you can feel
the difference. The rom does surge ahead at times.

-sv



On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've owned a Romulus and an AHH. They both felt about the same to me, with
 that nice springy feel. That said, my new-to-me Rambouillet feels
 lighter/springier, for what it's worth. I suspect it has slightly thinner
 tubing walls in the main triangle.

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Re: [RBW] What's that response called, and which model has it?

2013-04-04 Thread Bruce Herbitter
The Rams have heat treated downtubes and chainstays, giving a bit more
stiffness and power transmission than un treated tubes. I don't know about
AHH or Romulus.  Not sure what their tube thicknesses were either.  The
geometries vary between AHH and the other two by enough to affect the feel.
I think they all use good quality Japanese or other tubing and RBW custom
lugs and drop outs.

Roms were wonderful deals while they lasted and still are great looking
bikes. Never made in my size though. Fortunately the blue Rams came in
smaller frames too and I got one.


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a rom and an AHH. If you go from one bike to the other you can feel
 the difference. The rom does surge ahead at times.

 -sv



 On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've owned a Romulus and an AHH. They both felt about the same to me,
 with that nice springy feel. That said, my new-to-me Rambouillet feels
 lighter/springier, for what it's worth. I suspect it has slightly thinner
 tubing walls in the main triangle.

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[RBW] What's that response called, and which model has it?

2013-04-03 Thread Reid
Hi all -- I know there's a term for a bike that seems to spring ahead on 
its own when one is pedaling. The frame seems to absorb part of the power 
from pedaling and then let it loose at just the right time. My Romulus is 
like that. The bike seems alive!
 
So once someone recalls the terminology for that urge, can anyone tell me 
if the Sam Hillborn or the AHH tend to have that response? Or which one 
would be more likely to be that way? I know that the AHH has a bit thinner 
tubing than the Sam, although I have no idea whether or not that makes a 
difference. Would the Sam or the AHH tube thickness be closer to the 
Romulus?
 
You can tell that I want my next Riv to behave like the Romulus. And yes, 
even though the Rom is a great bike, after all these years, I NEED another 
Riv.
 
Thanks for any ideas.
 
Reid

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Re: [RBW] What's that response called, and which model has it?

2013-04-03 Thread René Sterental
I believe it's called planing or however it is supposed to be spelled...


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Reid reidp...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Hi all -- I know there's a term for a bike that seems to spring ahead on
 its own when one is pedaling. The frame seems to absorb part of the power
 from pedaling and then let it loose at just the right time. My Romulus is
 like that. The bike seems alive!

 So once someone recalls the terminology for that urge, can anyone tell
 me if the Sam Hillborn or the AHH tend to have that response? Or which one
 would be more likely to be that way? I know that the AHH has a bit thinner
 tubing than the Sam, although I have no idea whether or not that makes a
 difference. Would the Sam or the AHH tube thickness be closer to the
 Romulus?

 You can tell that I want my next Riv to behave like the Romulus. And yes,
 even though the Rom is a great bike, after all these years, I NEED another
 Riv.

 Thanks for any ideas.

 Reid

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Re: [RBW] What's that response called, and which model has it?

2013-04-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Springiness, liveliness, and the terrible planing.

Others will doubtless say different, and take into account my weight -- 175
-- but I found the Sam HIll (single top tube, 56) to be rather dull in this
regard -- much like the Fargo. It was a decent bike and if it had accepted
fatter tires I'd have kept it, but it didn't spring like my Riv roads.
OTOH, it seems to be one of the most popular Rivs.

Weight is not necessarily the issue, either: the Herse I owned was a tank
(and I didn't care for the handling) but it felt fast -- wonder if this was
because it fit so well?

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[RBW] What's that response called, and which model has it?

2013-04-03 Thread Joe Bernard
I've owned a Romulus and an AHH. They both felt about the same to me, with that 
nice springy feel. That said, my new-to-me Rambouillet feels lighter/springier, 
for what it's worth. I suspect it has slightly thinner tubing walls in the main 
triangle.

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