Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Garth]

Wy back in the 80's I'd take to painting bike parts and the lugs of my 
Stumpjumper with Testors Model paint. It was fun ! I often polished my 
Campy seatposts as sweat would do a number on them, but doing it by hand 
was an endless task. You know you start out thinking this will just 
take a few minutes hah hah  an hour later you wonder where and when 
to stop !   The painting was more fun colorful anyways. It's not done 
for anyone but yourself, for the joy of the joy of it ! 


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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Ken Yokanovich]

For what it is worth- those similarly inclined to try to polish their 
kickstands.  There are lots of rough spots and irregularities to surface 
including a seam from where they are cast. I used a flat file to smooth out 
the seam and a palm sander to sand the surface smooth before attempting the 
polish. It's messy work so recommend gloves and a face-mask. I used a 
progression of sandpaper from 220/400/600/1000/2000. After the 2000 the 
surface can easily be buffed to a mirror finish by hand using an aluminum 
polish like Mothers Aluminum Polish, or use a buffing wheel to make the 
process quicker. 

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:38:04 AM UTC-6 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> I did mine this morning at work. I used a big polishing lathe (3,000 rpm 
> 10HP) and a 14” color buff wheel. I used white rouge but probably would 
> have used a red to get a little more cut. One thing to keep in mind is that 
> a color buff will snatch the part from your hands. I could have done a 
> better job near the top but I didn’t feel the risk was worth it. If you are 
> using a bench top set up then there’s much less risk. It will still want to 
> grab though so be careful. 
>  
> All in all I’m happy with the results. Probably never do it again as I’m 
> not a clean your bike kind of person. 
>
> -Jacob
>
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 3, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I am waiting on the video to come out ...
>
> Kim. 
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:59:47 PM UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> yes i'll take a mini tutorial on polishing a pletscher for sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:39:18 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, Ken! I love that polished double! A real pletscher to look at!
>>>
>>> How'd you do that?
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:19:38 AM UTC-8 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>>>
 I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said 
 to myself "never again!" 
 [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]

 But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
 [image: Kickstand.jpg]

 In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
 found myself polishing another Greenfield.

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a 
> few times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher 
> Touring 
> and the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the 
> PDW. 
> I'm Team Swoopy! 
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one 
>> and would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't 
>> like 
>> a noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's 
>> more 
>> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
>> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
>> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to 
>> see 
>> pictures of what you decide.  
>>
>> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever 
>> know the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I 
>> know how you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>>
>>> I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, 
>>> no reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic 
>>> skills!
>>>
>>> Jared
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Kim Hetzel]

I am waiting on the video to come out ...

Kim. 

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:59:47 PM UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> yes i'll take a mini tutorial on polishing a pletscher for sure.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:39:18 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Wow, Ken! I love that polished double! A real pletscher to look at!
>>
>> How'd you do that?
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:19:38 AM UTC-8 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>>
>>> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said 
>>> to myself "never again!" 
>>> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>>>
>>> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
>>> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>>>
>>> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
>>> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a 
 few times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher 
 Touring 
 and the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. 
 I'm Team Swoopy! 

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one 
> and would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't 
> like 
> a noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to 
> see 
> pictures of what you decide.  
>
> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever 
> know the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I 
> know how you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>
>> I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, 
>> no reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic 
>> skills!
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Garth]

That's some nice looking kickstand Ken !  Everything looks good all sparkly 
-) 

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Michael Baquerizo]

yes i'll take a mini tutorial on polishing a pletscher for sure.



On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:39:18 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Wow, Ken! I love that polished double! A real pletscher to look at!
>
> How'd you do that?
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:19:38 AM UTC-8 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
>> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said to 
>> myself "never again!" 
>> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>>
>> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
>> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>>
>> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
>> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a few 
>>> times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher Touring and 
>>> the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. I'm 
>>> Team Swoopy! 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
 would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
 noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
 functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
 what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
 But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
 pictures of what you decide.  

 Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever 
 know the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I 
 know how you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.


 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:

> I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, 
> no reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!
>
> Jared
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[John Rinker]

Wow, Ken! I love that polished double! A real pletscher to look at!

How'd you do that?

Cheers, John

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:19:38 AM UTC-8 Ken Yokanovich wrote:

> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said to 
> myself "never again!" 
> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>
> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>
> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a few 
>> times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher Touring and 
>> the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. I'm 
>> Team Swoopy! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
>>> would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
>>> noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
>>> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
>>> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
>>> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
>>> pictures of what you decide.  
>>>
>>> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever know 
>>> the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I know how 
>>> you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>>>
 I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, no 
 reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!

 Jared

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Ken Yokanovich]

I applied some Groit's Garage Ceramic 3-in-1 spray finish, same stuff that 
I use to spray down the entire bike. 

Honestly, it can be a maintenance nightmare to keep shiny, particularly a 
kickstand that is subject to lots of abuse. Fortunately, I really enjoy 
keeping the fleet of bikes clean. I generally keep at least one bike ready 
for all kinds of inclement weather and abuse.

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:41:22 AM UTC-6 George Schick wrote:

> Ken - after you polished it did you apply any kind of sealer to it?
>
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:19:38 AM UTC-6 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
>> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said to 
>> myself "never again!" 
>> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>>
>> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
>> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>>
>> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
>> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a few 
>>> times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher Touring and 
>>> the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. I'm 
>>> Team Swoopy! 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
 would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
 noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
 functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
 what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
 But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
 pictures of what you decide.  

 Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever 
 know the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I 
 know how you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.


 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:

> I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, 
> no reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!
>
> Jared
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Leah, I feel your pain and have a potential solution for you.  Get your
favorite color of Newbaum tape and wrap the offending kickstand with the
beautiful colored bar tape and then you won't have to look at that
offending black part of the kickstand and you get to accessorize your bike
with another beautiful color.  You can finish the end with some twine.  Riv
website has good instructions on how to do this.  I can take a picture of
my wife's Betty Foy's kickstand if you'd like.  I think it would be sweet!

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[George Schick]

Ken - after you polished it did you apply any kind of sealer to it?


On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:19:38 AM UTC-6 Ken Yokanovich wrote:

> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said to 
> myself "never again!" 
> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>
> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>
> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a few 
>> times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher Touring and 
>> the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. I'm 
>> Team Swoopy! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
>>> would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
>>> noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
>>> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
>>> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
>>> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
>>> pictures of what you decide.  
>>>
>>> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever know 
>>> the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I know how 
>>> you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>>>
 I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, no 
 reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!

 Jared

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[lconley]

OOOH, I like it. I have been considering doing some drillium to one of my 
kickstands (single leg) and have always wondered how they would take to 
polishing. May have to do both, now.

Laing

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:19:38 AM UTC-5 Ken Yokanovich wrote:

> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said to 
> myself "never again!" 
> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>
> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>
> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a few 
>> times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher Touring and 
>> the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. I'm 
>> Team Swoopy! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
>>> would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
>>> noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
>>> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
>>> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
>>> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
>>> pictures of what you decide.  
>>>
>>> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever know 
>>> the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I know how 
>>> you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>>>
 I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, no 
 reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!

 Jared

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Joe Bernard]

Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a few 
times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher Touring and 
the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. I'm 
Team Swoopy! 

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
> would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
> noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
> pictures of what you decide.  
>
> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever know 
> the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I know how 
> you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>
>> I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, no 
>> reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Pam Bikes]

Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
pictures of what you decide.  

Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever know 
the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I know how 
you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.


On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:

> I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, no 
> reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!
>
> Jared
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[JW]

I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, no 
reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!

Jared

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Leah Peterson]

This is the response I was hoping for! Lol, you get it completely and I sympathize with your hand-wringing about bolts being original and the final washer/spacer misalignment. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. I’m glad to know I’m not the only one.Kim, thank you so much for the offer - it’s so kind. I actually purchased the Pletscher that I originally wanted, and I’ll get it on there soon. Save your Clem kickstand - you may need it someday!I should also clear the name of the good bike shop here - I probably didn’t word it well in that hurried post last night. They tried to get the exact kickstand I wanted and only realized after it arrived that it was for a rear mount and not the center mount I needed. Not having access to that version, they chose another kickstand they thought I would like. They just don’t know me well enough to know I’d hate that kickstand. So, all is forgiven and I will never mention it to them. If I can’t install the new kickstand myself I’ll slink off to the bike shop across town and have them do it. And my local shop will be none the wiser!I’ll send a video of the two kickstands in the next post. The PDW stand vibrates so much that the frame even shakes, or it seems to. Might be loud/annoying on rough roads. It also looks huge on my bike and that’s my club riding bike - already an anomaly - and I don’t need one more thing to make even weirder.I swapped the racks back on my Platy tonight but didn’t get to ride it yet. I’ll ride it and see what I think of that kickstand while I wait for the new one to arrive.LeahOn Mar 1, 2023, at 3:33 PM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:<3B20619C-8CE8-425D-83AE-E1AED31FD684.jpeg>Poking my head in to say that this is the most entertaining and affirming thread I have ever seen on these pages during my short tenure!From the Kindrid Spirits Club, the attached pic shows my recent level of kickstand obsession. I hacksawed, ground, and polished the aluminum slab that typically goes atop the chainstays to use as a thick spacer/washer to relieve the stress accompanying the deployment of the kickstand.  For it is my own theory that the vibration associated with the kickstand use (ya know, the bb sound) led to the premature kickstand plate failure on certain Riv bikes. Oh sure, I am conveniently ignoring that this is the most stressed area of the bike. (Let’s not let the facts get in the way of a good argument.)  Keen eyes will note that I also used the Riv sourced Greenfield bolt to secure the kickstand, having hacksawed, ground and polished that to size as it was far too long for this custom use.  Oh sure, I could have sourced the proper sized bolt at my local hardware store, but then it would not have been an original part, now would it?Yes, it drives me crazy that my custom Greenfield washer/spacer has a misalignment.  I will remedy that when I remove the kickstand to shorten it using my micrometer for measurement as it needs to lean over .783 degrees further to feel just right. All this to say, Leah, I get it!



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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[George Schick]

Unfortunately, this is not uncommon.  What they're often doing is using 
something they already have in stock, telling the customer that they've 
selected a "better" product.  Also, if they've stocked those via a one-time 
mass purchase from a distributor, they're likely to be making a wider 
profit margin off of it vs. something they had to special order.  Yet 
another reason to DIY if you can.

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 2:09:00 PM UTC-6 Garth wrote:

>
> I missed the part of the employee taking the liberty to order something 
> other than what was agreed upon. While it's not uncommon, it is wonky and 
> it's up to the customer to take it up with either the employee or the store 
> management. Be firm about it, kind, but firm. If the store hems and haws, 
> tell them to take it up with the employee who ordered the part, and leave 
> you out of that drama. That's not the customers responsibility, you're 
> there to buy the stuff you ask for. The employee may have thought you 
> wouldn't notice, or worse, were clueless to tell the difference. Oops, you 
> did. 
>
>
>
> *Surprise ! I bought you and even BETTER present ! *
>
> [image: cookie-monster-gets-crackers-its-like-you-dont-even-know-me.jpg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Kim Hetzel]

Very selfish of the bike mechanic to do so over Leah wanted.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 11:02 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

>
> Yes, I'm also annoyed that the shop guy - a person she's interacted with
> several times - got the kickstand he liked and popped it on there without
> asking her. That's weird.
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:04:46 AM UTC-8 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Sorry to hear you did not get the kickstand you asked for. Maybe you want
>> to go back to that shop and ask them to replace the current kickstand with
>> the one you originally asked for? Or maybe you've had enough of that shop
>> already.
>>
>> No one else thinks it's a bit out of line for the shop to use the
>> kickstand they wanted vs. the one Leah wanted?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 8:26 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You’ll forgive me for this unusual thread, I know you will. You will be
>>> compassionate to your RivSister who is yearning for spring after a Michigan
>>> winter, and if she can’t ride the bikes she will talk about the bikes.
>>>
>>> I love my Rivendells. I used to hate changing anything about them - if I
>>> wore something out like brake pads or tires - I would sometimes weep about
>>> it in the parking lot of the bike shop. “It will never be the SAME!” I’d
>>> think. These poor coping skills came after wearing my Betty Foy tires to
>>> threads. The mechanic told me he’d have to get me something else for tires
>>> because he didn’t have that kind. Then he called me and told my I’d
>>> actually need a whole new WHEEL because my rim was cracked. He explained he
>>> would have to build one. After a week in that shop, my Betty was returned
>>> to me. I got a flat on my first ride. I went howling back to the shop - it
>>> was something about rim tape and it was an easy fix. But I had developed a
>>> distrust and a distaste for messing with essentials on my bikes.
>>>
>>> I’ve mostly gotten over this. Especially now that I know about upgrades
>>> and how happy they can make you. But some things just shouldn’t need to be
>>> upgraded. Some things are so familiar that when they go missing or get
>>> replaced it’s intolerable.
>>>
>>> Kickstands.
>>>
>>> My Greenfield kickstand on the raspberry Platy inexplicably snapped in
>>> the back of my van en route to the Philly Bike Expo. A local shop replaced
>>> that kickstand with the same model (joy and rapture!) but cut it a hair too
>>> short. Was it going to tip over? No. BUT IT WASN’T THE SAME, I wailed in my
>>> head. I didn’t like the new lean it gave the bike. I wanted things the way
>>> they used to be. I decided I would spring for yet another kickstand and
>>> hope it would be right.
>>>
>>> I took my Platy to my local shop and explained about the kickstand. I
>>> also brought them one of Rivendell’s new shiny rear racks to be fit to my
>>> bike. I may take that bike on a RivSister Tour this summer and needed a
>>> heavy-duty rack (not the saddlebag support I have presently). The mechanic
>>> thought he knew what I wanted and ordered me a new kickstand that he
>>> thought would be EVEN BETTER. He said this in email, so I did not get a
>>> vote. I picked up the bike today. The rear rack was expertly fitted. The
>>> kickstand…I know he meant well, but…
>>>
>>> But it wasn’t the SAME.
>>>
>>> It’s this foreign thing on my bike. Chunky and stout. It’s a Portland
>>> Design Works stand; this one, I think:
>>> https://ridepdw.com/products/power-stance-kickstand
>>>
>>> I haven’t gotten used to it. It’s been 4 hours. I don’t know if I can
>>> get used to it. This is my club ride bike and that kickstand is…a lot. The
>>> rack will get switched back - I just wanted the new one ready for plug and
>>> play for a summer tour. But what should I do about that kickstand?
>>>
>>> I could buy the one that is on my mermaid Platy. I think I want to be
>>> done with the kickstands that you have to cut to size. I’m liking that this
>>> one is adjustable.
>>>
>>> Is it as horrible as I think? I think it’s worse in real life than the
>>> photos show. Also, it’s dark and I had to alter these photos a lot so you
>>> could see well enough. Colors will be distorted. Anyway, I’m sending pics
>>> in the following post…
>>>
>>> Who will help their RivSister? Who can understand her peculiar brand of
>>> angst? Who has words of wisdom, or even constructive criticism? Who else is
>>> nutty about small things that barely matter? Who has been crying in bike
>>> shop parking lots and hand-wringing in the garage, staring at these
>>> foreign, new, transplanted parts?
>>>
>>> Pics forthcoming…
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, I'm also annoyed that the shop guy - a person she's interacted with 
several times - got the kickstand he liked and popped it on there without 
asking her. That's weird. 
On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:04:46 AM UTC-8 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:

> Sorry to hear you did not get the kickstand you asked for. Maybe you want 
> to go back to that shop and ask them to replace the current kickstand with 
> the one you originally asked for? Or maybe you've had enough of that shop 
> already.
>
> No one else thinks it's a bit out of line for the shop to use the 
> kickstand they wanted vs. the one Leah wanted?
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 8:26 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You’ll forgive me for this unusual thread, I know you will. You will be 
>> compassionate to your RivSister who is yearning for spring after a Michigan 
>> winter, and if she can’t ride the bikes she will talk about the bikes. 
>>
>> I love my Rivendells. I used to hate changing anything about them - if I 
>> wore something out like brake pads or tires - I would sometimes weep about 
>> it in the parking lot of the bike shop. “It will never be the SAME!” I’d 
>> think. These poor coping skills came after wearing my Betty Foy tires to 
>> threads. The mechanic told me he’d have to get me something else for tires 
>> because he didn’t have that kind. Then he called me and told my I’d 
>> actually need a whole new WHEEL because my rim was cracked. He explained he 
>> would have to build one. After a week in that shop, my Betty was returned 
>> to me. I got a flat on my first ride. I went howling back to the shop - it 
>> was something about rim tape and it was an easy fix. But I had developed a 
>> distrust and a distaste for messing with essentials on my bikes. 
>>
>> I’ve mostly gotten over this. Especially now that I know about upgrades 
>> and how happy they can make you. But some things just shouldn’t need to be 
>> upgraded. Some things are so familiar that when they go missing or get 
>> replaced it’s intolerable.
>>
>> Kickstands.
>>
>> My Greenfield kickstand on the raspberry Platy inexplicably snapped in 
>> the back of my van en route to the Philly Bike Expo. A local shop replaced 
>> that kickstand with the same model (joy and rapture!) but cut it a hair too 
>> short. Was it going to tip over? No. BUT IT WASN’T THE SAME, I wailed in my 
>> head. I didn’t like the new lean it gave the bike. I wanted things the way 
>> they used to be. I decided I would spring for yet another kickstand and 
>> hope it would be right.
>>
>> I took my Platy to my local shop and explained about the kickstand. I 
>> also brought them one of Rivendell’s new shiny rear racks to be fit to my 
>> bike. I may take that bike on a RivSister Tour this summer and needed a 
>> heavy-duty rack (not the saddlebag support I have presently). The mechanic 
>> thought he knew what I wanted and ordered me a new kickstand that he 
>> thought would be EVEN BETTER. He said this in email, so I did not get a 
>> vote. I picked up the bike today. The rear rack was expertly fitted. The 
>> kickstand…I know he meant well, but…
>>
>> But it wasn’t the SAME. 
>>
>> It’s this foreign thing on my bike. Chunky and stout. It’s a Portland 
>> Design Works stand; this one, I think: 
>> https://ridepdw.com/products/power-stance-kickstand
>>
>> I haven’t gotten used to it. It’s been 4 hours. I don’t know if I can get 
>> used to it. This is my club ride bike and that kickstand is…a lot. The rack 
>> will get switched back - I just wanted the new one ready for plug and play 
>> for a summer tour. But what should I do about that kickstand? 
>>
>> I could buy the one that is on my mermaid Platy. I think I want to be 
>> done with the kickstands that you have to cut to size. I’m liking that this 
>> one is adjustable. 
>>
>> Is it as horrible as I think? I think it’s worse in real life than the 
>> photos show. Also, it’s dark and I had to alter these photos a lot so you 
>> could see well enough. Colors will be distorted. Anyway, I’m sending pics 
>> in the following post…
>>
>> Who will help their RivSister? Who can understand her peculiar brand of 
>> angst? Who has words of wisdom, or even constructive criticism? Who else is 
>> nutty about small things that barely matter? Who has been crying in bike 
>> shop parking lots and hand-wringing in the garage, staring at these 
>> foreign, new, transplanted parts?
>>
>> Pics forthcoming…
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Eric White]

Sorry to hear you did not get the kickstand you asked for. Maybe you want
to go back to that shop and ask them to replace the current kickstand with
the one you originally asked for? Or maybe you've had enough of that shop
already.

No one else thinks it's a bit out of line for the shop to use the kickstand
they wanted vs. the one Leah wanted?


On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 8:26 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You’ll forgive me for this unusual thread, I know you will. You will be
> compassionate to your RivSister who is yearning for spring after a Michigan
> winter, and if she can’t ride the bikes she will talk about the bikes.
>
> I love my Rivendells. I used to hate changing anything about them - if I
> wore something out like brake pads or tires - I would sometimes weep about
> it in the parking lot of the bike shop. “It will never be the SAME!” I’d
> think. These poor coping skills came after wearing my Betty Foy tires to
> threads. The mechanic told me he’d have to get me something else for tires
> because he didn’t have that kind. Then he called me and told my I’d
> actually need a whole new WHEEL because my rim was cracked. He explained he
> would have to build one. After a week in that shop, my Betty was returned
> to me. I got a flat on my first ride. I went howling back to the shop - it
> was something about rim tape and it was an easy fix. But I had developed a
> distrust and a distaste for messing with essentials on my bikes.
>
> I’ve mostly gotten over this. Especially now that I know about upgrades
> and how happy they can make you. But some things just shouldn’t need to be
> upgraded. Some things are so familiar that when they go missing or get
> replaced it’s intolerable.
>
> Kickstands.
>
> My Greenfield kickstand on the raspberry Platy inexplicably snapped in the
> back of my van en route to the Philly Bike Expo. A local shop replaced that
> kickstand with the same model (joy and rapture!) but cut it a hair too
> short. Was it going to tip over? No. BUT IT WASN’T THE SAME, I wailed in my
> head. I didn’t like the new lean it gave the bike. I wanted things the way
> they used to be. I decided I would spring for yet another kickstand and
> hope it would be right.
>
> I took my Platy to my local shop and explained about the kickstand. I also
> brought them one of Rivendell’s new shiny rear racks to be fit to my bike.
> I may take that bike on a RivSister Tour this summer and needed a
> heavy-duty rack (not the saddlebag support I have presently). The mechanic
> thought he knew what I wanted and ordered me a new kickstand that he
> thought would be EVEN BETTER. He said this in email, so I did not get a
> vote. I picked up the bike today. The rear rack was expertly fitted. The
> kickstand…I know he meant well, but…
>
> But it wasn’t the SAME.
>
> It’s this foreign thing on my bike. Chunky and stout. It’s a Portland
> Design Works stand; this one, I think:
> https://ridepdw.com/products/power-stance-kickstand
>
> I haven’t gotten used to it. It’s been 4 hours. I don’t know if I can get
> used to it. This is my club ride bike and that kickstand is…a lot. The rack
> will get switched back - I just wanted the new one ready for plug and play
> for a summer tour. But what should I do about that kickstand?
>
> I could buy the one that is on my mermaid Platy. I think I want to be done
> with the kickstands that you have to cut to size. I’m liking that this one
> is adjustable.
>
> Is it as horrible as I think? I think it’s worse in real life than the
> photos show. Also, it’s dark and I had to alter these photos a lot so you
> could see well enough. Colors will be distorted. Anyway, I’m sending pics
> in the following post…
>
> Who will help their RivSister? Who can understand her peculiar brand of
> angst? Who has words of wisdom, or even constructive criticism? Who else is
> nutty about small things that barely matter? Who has been crying in bike
> shop parking lots and hand-wringing in the garage, staring at these
> foreign, new, transplanted parts?
>
> Pics forthcoming…
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Tom Goodmann]

RBW List to the rescue! So nice! 

Tom in Miami

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 9:45:48 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Leah,
>
> I am sorry to hear of your misgivings over your bicycle parts. 
>
> If you are still not happy with your new kickstand, I would be more than 
> happy to send you my single kickstand that came stock with my Clem Smith 
> Jr. "L" bike for no cost to you. I have not intentions of using it. I have 
> a double footed-Pletscher kickstand.
>
> I will take a picture(s) of it and send them to you, if are interested.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 6:31:56 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, here is the new Rivendell rear rack, for those of you wondering how 
>> it would mount. It clears the fender light, which is the problem I had with 
>> the Nitto medium Big Back Rack.
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 9:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> New stand:
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You’ll forgive me for this unusual thread, I know you will. You will be 
>> compassionate to your RivSister who is yearning for spring after a Michigan 
>> winter, and if she can’t ride the bikes she will talk about the bikes. 
>>
>> I love my Rivendells. I used to hate changing anything about them - if I 
>> wore something out like brake pads or tires - I would sometimes weep about 
>> it in the parking lot of the bike shop. “It will never be the SAME!” I’d 
>> think. These poor coping skills came after wearing my Betty Foy tires to 
>> threads. The mechanic told me he’d have to get me something else for tires 
>> because he didn’t have that kind. Then he called me and told my I’d 
>> actually need a whole new WHEEL because my rim was cracked. He explained he 
>> would have to build one. After a week in that shop, my Betty was returned 
>> to me. I got a flat on my first ride. I went howling back to the shop - it 
>> was something about rim tape and it was an easy fix. But I had developed a 
>> distrust and a distaste for messing with essentials on my bikes. 
>>
>> I’ve mostly gotten over this. Especially now that I know about upgrades 
>> and how happy they can make you. But some things just shouldn’t need to be 
>> upgraded. Some things are so familiar that when they go missing or get 
>> replaced it’s intolerable.
>>
>> Kickstands.
>>
>> My Greenfield kickstand on the raspberry Platy inexplicably snapped in 
>> the back of my van en route to the Philly Bike Expo. A local shop replaced 
>> that kickstand with the same model (joy and rapture!) but cut it a hair too 
>> short. Was it going to tip over? No. BUT IT WASN’T THE SAME, I wailed in my 
>> head. I didn’t like the new lean it gave the bike. I wanted things the way 
>> they used to be. I decided I would spring for yet another kickstand and 
>> hope it would be right.
>>
>> I took my Platy to my local shop and explained about the kickstand. I 
>> also brought them one of Rivendell’s new shiny rear racks to be fit to my 
>> bike. I may take that bike on a RivSister Tour this summer and needed a 
>> heavy-duty rack (not the saddlebag support I have presently). The mechanic 
>> thought he knew what I wanted and ordered me a new kickstand that he 
>> thought would be EVEN BETTER. He said this in email, so I did not get a 
>> vote. I picked up the bike today. The rear rack was expertly fitted. The 
>> kickstand…I know he meant well, but…
>>
>> But it wasn’t the SAME. 
>>
>> It’s this foreign thing on my bike. Chunky and stout. It’s a Portland 
>> Design Works stand; this one, I think: 
>> https://ridepdw.com/products/power-stance-kickstand
>>
>> I haven’t gotten used to it. It’s been 4 hours. I don’t know if I can get 
>> used to it. This is my club ride bike and that kickstand is…a lot. The rack 
>> will get switched back - I just wanted the new one ready for plug and play 
>> for a summer tour. But what should I do about that kickstand? 
>>
>> I could buy the one that is on my mermaid Platy. I think I want to be 
>> done with the kickstands that you have to cut to size. I’m liking that this 
>> one is adjustable. 
>>
>> Is it as horrible as I think? I think it’s worse in real life than the 
>> photos show. Also, it’s dark and I had to alter these photos a lot so you 
>> could see well enough. Colors will be distorted. Anyway, I’m sending pics 
>> in the following post…
>>
>> Who will help their RivSister? Who can understand her peculiar brand of 
>> angst? Who has words of wisdom, or even constructive criticism? Who else is 
>> nutty about small things that barely matter? Who has been crying in bike 
>> shop parking lots and hand-wringing in the garage, staring at these 
>> foreign, new, transplanted parts?
>>
>> Pics forthcoming…
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Leah,

I am sorry to hear of your misgivings over your bicycle parts. 

If you are still not happy with your new kickstand, I would be more than 
happy to send you my single kickstand that came stock with my Clem Smith 
Jr. "L" bike for no cost to you. I have not intentions of using it. I have 
a double footed-Pletscher kickstand.

I will take a picture(s) of it and send them to you, if are interested.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 6:31:56 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Oh, here is the new Rivendell rear rack, for those of you wondering how it 
> would mount. It clears the fender light, which is the problem I had with 
> the Nitto medium Big Back Rack.
> [image: image0.jpeg]
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> On Feb 28, 2023, at 9:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
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> New stand:
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> On Feb 28, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
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> You’ll forgive me for this unusual thread, I know you will. You will be 
> compassionate to your RivSister who is yearning for spring after a Michigan 
> winter, and if she can’t ride the bikes she will talk about the bikes. 
>
> I love my Rivendells. I used to hate changing anything about them - if I 
> wore something out like brake pads or tires - I would sometimes weep about 
> it in the parking lot of the bike shop. “It will never be the SAME!” I’d 
> think. These poor coping skills came after wearing my Betty Foy tires to 
> threads. The mechanic told me he’d have to get me something else for tires 
> because he didn’t have that kind. Then he called me and told my I’d 
> actually need a whole new WHEEL because my rim was cracked. He explained he 
> would have to build one. After a week in that shop, my Betty was returned 
> to me. I got a flat on my first ride. I went howling back to the shop - it 
> was something about rim tape and it was an easy fix. But I had developed a 
> distrust and a distaste for messing with essentials on my bikes. 
>
> I’ve mostly gotten over this. Especially now that I know about upgrades 
> and how happy they can make you. But some things just shouldn’t need to be 
> upgraded. Some things are so familiar that when they go missing or get 
> replaced it’s intolerable.
>
> Kickstands.
>
> My Greenfield kickstand on the raspberry Platy inexplicably snapped in the 
> back of my van en route to the Philly Bike Expo. A local shop replaced that 
> kickstand with the same model (joy and rapture!) but cut it a hair too 
> short. Was it going to tip over? No. BUT IT WASN’T THE SAME, I wailed in my 
> head. I didn’t like the new lean it gave the bike. I wanted things the way 
> they used to be. I decided I would spring for yet another kickstand and 
> hope it would be right.
>
> I took my Platy to my local shop and explained about the kickstand. I also 
> brought them one of Rivendell’s new shiny rear racks to be fit to my bike. 
> I may take that bike on a RivSister Tour this summer and needed a 
> heavy-duty rack (not the saddlebag support I have presently). The mechanic 
> thought he knew what I wanted and ordered me a new kickstand that he 
> thought would be EVEN BETTER. He said this in email, so I did not get a 
> vote. I picked up the bike today. The rear rack was expertly fitted. The 
> kickstand…I know he meant well, but…
>
> But it wasn’t the SAME. 
>
> It’s this foreign thing on my bike. Chunky and stout. It’s a Portland 
> Design Works stand; this one, I think: 
> https://ridepdw.com/products/power-stance-kickstand
>
> I haven’t gotten used to it. It’s been 4 hours. I don’t know if I can get 
> used to it. This is my club ride bike and that kickstand is…a lot. The rack 
> will get switched back - I just wanted the new one ready for plug and play 
> for a summer tour. But what should I do about that kickstand? 
>
> I could buy the one that is on my mermaid Platy. I think I want to be done 
> with the kickstands that you have to cut to size. I’m liking that this one 
> is adjustable. 
>
> Is it as horrible as I think? I think it’s worse in real life than the 
> photos show. Also, it’s dark and I had to alter these photos a lot so you 
> could see well enough. Colors will be distorted. Anyway, I’m sending pics 
> in the following post…
>
> Who will help their RivSister? Who can understand her peculiar brand of 
> angst? Who has words of wisdom, or even constructive criticism? Who else is 
> nutty about small things that barely matter? Who has been crying in bike 
> shop parking lots and hand-wringing in the garage, staring at these 
> foreign, new, transplanted parts?
>
> Pics forthcoming…
> Leah
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