Re: [RBW] My QR Fender QR'd

2015-01-26 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 01/26/2015 05:59 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
I run SKS plastics on my Atlantis.  There's a shortcut in my 
neighborhood that I frequently take.  It's a path that is thickly 
paved with big woodchips.  Like when they cut down a tree, it ends 
up on this path.  Some of the chunks are prettyumchunky. 
 Anyway, I was cutting across the path, and there was a loud whack! 
sound and then a rubbing sound.  Sure enough it looks like a woodchip 
got in my spokes, whacked the SKS stay and the front fender QR'd 
itself and the woodchip dislodged.  I just popped the fender back in 
and straightened the slightly bent stay and moved on.


It's nice that the QR feature works when a mean chunk of wood 
diabolically leaps into your spokes.


Yes, I did upgrade the Honjos on another bike with the Portland Design 
Works QR kit.


QR kit https://www.ridepdw.com/goods/spare-parts/fmf-safety-tabs




Do you have any photos of the bike with that kit installed?  I'm having 
trouble imagining how it's to be used.


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Re: [RBW] My QR Fender QR'd

2015-01-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
Steve-buddy

It doesn't look like I do have any photos, but that's easily corrected.

In the meantime, let me describe how it works with Honjos, or any similar 
aluminum stayed fender, held with R-clips to your fork tip:

Step 1.  remove the R-clips entirely.  Put them in your parts drawer
Step 2.  Bolt the PDW kit piece into the fork tip eyelet where the R-clip 
had been
Step 3.  line up your aluminum stay next to the PDW kit and mark where you 
need to cut it off
Step 4.  Remove the stay entirely
Step 5.  Cut the stay at your mark
Step 6.  Re-install the stay, sliding the 5mm Aluminum stay into the PDW 
kit, kind of trombone-style
Step 7.  tighten everything up, including the tiny setscrews on the metal 
part of the PDW kit

I'll post flickr pictures late tonight (unless I forget)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito CA

On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 3:03:26 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 01/26/2015 05:59 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
  
 I run SKS plastics on my Atlantis.  There's a shortcut in my neighborhood 
 that I frequently take.  It's a path that is thickly paved with big 
 woodchips.  Like when they cut down a tree, it ends up on this path.  Some 
 of the chunks are prettyumchunky.  Anyway, I was cutting across the 
 path, and there was a loud whack! sound and then a rubbing sound.  Sure 
 enough it looks like a woodchip got in my spokes, whacked the SKS stay and 
 the front fender QR'd itself and the woodchip dislodged.  I just popped the 
 fender back in and straightened the slightly bent stay and moved on.   

  It's nice that the QR feature works when a mean chunk of wood 
 diabolically leaps into your spokes.  

  Yes, I did upgrade the Honjos on another bike with the Portland Design 
 Works QR kit.  

  QR kit https://www.ridepdw.com/goods/spare-parts/fmf-safety-tabs
  
  
  
 Do you have any photos of the bike with that kit installed?  I'm having 
 trouble imagining how it's to be used.
  

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Re: [RBW] My QR Fender QR'd

2015-01-26 Thread Joe Broach
I bet Steve can figure it out from your description and existing Google
images like this one:

http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/PDW-Wide-Full-Metal-Fenders-Stay-Mounts1.jpg

I was excited about these little dudes when I first saw them. But, then I
started wondering if that 2mm grub screw would actually stay put. Then, I
started wondering if the design even made any sense. The SKS version will
release when the stays are pulled upwards. On this design, I'm not
convinced the stays won't just bend instead of pulling out when the stay
gets pulled toward the crown.

I'll look forward to Bill's field testing!

Best,
joe broach
pdx or

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Steve-buddy

 It doesn't look like I do have any photos, but that's easily corrected.

 In the meantime, let me describe how it works with Honjos, or any similar
 aluminum stayed fender, held with R-clips to your fork tip:

 Step 1.  remove the R-clips entirely.  Put them in your parts drawer
 Step 2.  Bolt the PDW kit piece into the fork tip eyelet where the R-clip
 had been
 Step 3.  line up your aluminum stay next to the PDW kit and mark where you
 need to cut it off
 Step 4.  Remove the stay entirely
 Step 5.  Cut the stay at your mark
 Step 6.  Re-install the stay, sliding the 5mm Aluminum stay into the PDW
 kit, kind of trombone-style
 Step 7.  tighten everything up, including the tiny setscrews on the metal
 part of the PDW kit

 I'll post flickr pictures late tonight (unless I forget)

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito CA


 On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 3:03:26 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 01/26/2015 05:59 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I run SKS plastics on my Atlantis.  There's a shortcut in my neighborhood
 that I frequently take.  It's a path that is thickly paved with big
 woodchips.  Like when they cut down a tree, it ends up on this path.  Some
 of the chunks are prettyumchunky.  Anyway, I was cutting across the
 path, and there was a loud whack! sound and then a rubbing sound.  Sure
 enough it looks like a woodchip got in my spokes, whacked the SKS stay and
 the front fender QR'd itself and the woodchip dislodged.  I just popped the
 fender back in and straightened the slightly bent stay and moved on.

  It's nice that the QR feature works when a mean chunk of wood
 diabolically leaps into your spokes.

  Yes, I did upgrade the Honjos on another bike with the Portland Design
 Works QR kit.

  QR kit https://www.ridepdw.com/goods/spare-parts/fmf-safety-tabs



 Do you have any photos of the bike with that kit installed?  I'm having
 trouble imagining how it's to be used.

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Re: [RBW] My QR Fender QR'd

2015-01-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
I confess there was a secondary reason I bought the PDW kit.  This is on my 
Rawland Stag.  I got a very swank custom fork for it.  When I re-installed 
my Honjos, the front stays were a couple mm too short.  I ran 38s instead 
of 42s temporarily, fretting massively on the idea that I needed to buy a 
new fender stay.  The PDW kit allowed me to correctly adjust my fenders for 
42s.  The added safety aspect was a bonus.  

B 

On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 3:32:18 PM UTC-8, joe b. wrote:

 I bet Steve can figure it out from your description and existing Google 
 images like this one: 


 http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/PDW-Wide-Full-Metal-Fenders-Stay-Mounts1.jpg

 I was excited about these little dudes when I first saw them. But, then I 
 started wondering if that 2mm grub screw would actually stay put. Then, I 
 started wondering if the design even made any sense. The SKS version will 
 release when the stays are pulled upwards. On this design, I'm not 
 convinced the stays won't just bend instead of pulling out when the stay 
 gets pulled toward the crown.

 I'll look forward to Bill's field testing!

 Best,
 joe broach
 pdx or

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Steve-buddy

 It doesn't look like I do have any photos, but that's easily corrected.

 In the meantime, let me describe how it works with Honjos, or any similar 
 aluminum stayed fender, held with R-clips to your fork tip:

 Step 1.  remove the R-clips entirely.  Put them in your parts drawer
 Step 2.  Bolt the PDW kit piece into the fork tip eyelet where the R-clip 
 had been
 Step 3.  line up your aluminum stay next to the PDW kit and mark where 
 you need to cut it off
 Step 4.  Remove the stay entirely
 Step 5.  Cut the stay at your mark
 Step 6.  Re-install the stay, sliding the 5mm Aluminum stay into the PDW 
 kit, kind of trombone-style
 Step 7.  tighten everything up, including the tiny setscrews on the metal 
 part of the PDW kit

 I'll post flickr pictures late tonight (unless I forget)

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito CA


 On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 3:03:26 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 01/26/2015 05:59 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
  
 I run SKS plastics on my Atlantis.  There's a shortcut in my 
 neighborhood that I frequently take.  It's a path that is thickly paved 
 with big woodchips.  Like when they cut down a tree, it ends up on this 
 path.  Some of the chunks are prettyumchunky.  Anyway, I was 
 cutting across the path, and there was a loud whack! sound and then a 
 rubbing sound.  Sure enough it looks like a woodchip got in my spokes, 
 whacked the SKS stay and the front fender QR'd itself and the woodchip 
 dislodged.  I just popped the fender back in and straightened the slightly 
 bent stay and moved on.   

  It's nice that the QR feature works when a mean chunk of wood 
 diabolically leaps into your spokes.  

  Yes, I did upgrade the Honjos on another bike with the Portland Design 
 Works QR kit.  

  QR kit https://www.ridepdw.com/goods/spare-parts/fmf-safety-tabs
  
  
  
 Do you have any photos of the bike with that kit installed?  I'm having 
 trouble imagining how it's to be used.
  
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