Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!
Well said. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Garth wrote: > > > > The perfect cup o' coffee is the one in hand ... > > > In hand is where Home is . Home is where the Heart is and the > Heart is where Love is and Love is where Everything is Love . With > Love Everything , Everywhere and Everyone is the finest. > > > Three cheers for Love and Love is the finest cup of All ! > > Bon Appetit Everyone ! > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/bEyT1JZ57Rg/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!
Patrick, With two purchases of heirloom quality goods, you can buy beans up to six months (though 2 is preferable) at a time at the same price for coffee beans as you pay now per pound (roughly $5-6 a pound before shipping), and have the best, smoothest, most remarkable coffee in the world (tied with the rest of us who do this. Grin.). The difference will likely astonish you. If you are asking questions about freezing or not freezing, you may as well experience the full answer, so at the very least you know what you are missing. Grin. Next time we are able to meet and ride, I’ll give you a taster. Grin. 1. Zen Roaster. I didn’t wax on about this roaster much above, but it is made by a multiple generational ceramic craft family in Japan and it shows. It is stunning ceramic. We bought a second one to have as a spare should something happen to the first, but it just shrugs off bumps and dings with our cast iron stove grill and other pots. Haven’t dropped it on the floor though, but wouldn’t be surprised if it shrugged that off too. It is the very definition of beausage, becoming a lustrious black inside from the bean roasting, and like a speckled egg on the outside from the chafe bits occationally flairing up on it. You’d likely spend 20 minutes total roasting once to twice a week to have fresh roasted beans daily. (best used between 4 hours and two weeks, though the sweet spot most people love is somewhere in the first week). 2. Quality hand grinder. There is beauty in a well crafted human powered tool and in using it. It is a richer, fuller experience to feel the texture of the beans grind. Did you know you can feel the roast level by the bean grind? With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!
I knock my blade grinder all over the place and nope, I get fine coffee grit over a 2 sq ft area; that's my problem. I'm intrigued by the "couple of drops of water" trick and will try that; I guess you have to cut the amount of water fine so that you don't end up with mud? I understand the advice to buy small quantities of good quality beans from purveyors who sell them fresh, and use them up quickly, but one advantage of being in practice if not in principle car free (apart from rare out of town trips I drive perhaps 800 miles per year, now that my daughter can drive herself -- I just live a dull life) is that I tend to stock up on essentials at Costco once very 6 or 8 weeks, which means bulk, like the 3 lb bag of San Francisco French Roast beans that I mentioned; and these obviously must be frozen -- right? Also, I very often drink tea (strong breakfast teas), which means that I generally drink coffee at the equivalent of every other day, with a daily ratio usually of 2 ~18 oz cups -- meaning that 3 lb bags last even longer. At any rate, now I understand more clearly the variables and the options and the benefits and deficits, so thanks again to all. Will continue to ponder and, eventually, make a decision. On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 3:52 PM Justin, Oakland wrote: > To cut the static you just knock the receiving cup a few times. Cabinet, > counter or knuckle works > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!
Ah - the slow grind eliminates the static build-up! That's my problem I'll bet - too fast. I will bookmark this concept. On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM Ron Mc wrote: > > I've been through $50 Cuisinart burr grinders every 3 years for the past 9. > This time I upgraded to a Capresso 565, which grinds Slow. > The product comes in perfect uniform grains, no matter how tiny, and zero > dust. > Even grind size eliminates bitterness, and best part is the uniform coarser > grind I can get is perfect for coffee-press brew. > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!
I have the Bodum burr grinder because I found it on sale. It's not the best, but it works. A couple drops of water on the beans before grinding will cut the static. I have a cheap ceramic burr hand grinder for when I travel. Agreed with all here - buy fresh roasted (or roast yourself) and keep it in its bag. Brew immediately after grinding. Don't freeze - there is no benefit at all. I cold brew my coffee using a large mason jar and an inexpensive metal mesh filter. When I want to brew hot, which is rare these days, I use an Aeropress. My wife drinks tea, and one of those electric kettles has been wonderful - she can get her precise temp for brewing green tea, and I can get mine for the Aeropress. On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 4:37 PM Justin, Oakland wrote: > > I use a Vario, my wife uses a melita filter system for convenience. I had a > Kalita and enjoyed it but the availability of filters at the time (8-10 years > ago) was rough. > > Baratza grinders are serviceable and I recently replaced an adjustment ring > on mine that was broke. I’ve had the motor rebuilt before when it was > slipping. > > The Wacoco handpresso makes incredibly decent espresso for what it is. > > I’m going to try the Kinu hand grinders. > > -J > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!
We love our Lido 2. It is easily set to grind everything from a course grind to espresso and everything between. Engineered and built to last a lifetime. http://www.oehandgrinders.com/OE-LIDO-2-Manual-Coffee-Grinder_p_14.html I can’t speak to how to store coffee as I roast our and we brew it within the week. So my advice is use fresh roasted coffee (buying it from a local roaster or self-roasting). There is an amazing difference between the fresheness and richness because the oils et al are still present. I highly recommend using fresh roasted beans for the best coffee. We get our organic green beans from Dean’s Beans and are partial to Colombian and Guatamalan. https://deansbeans.com/our-products/roasted-coffees/green-unroasted-coffee-beans.html With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!
I keep a hand crank on hand for emergencies. This is the one I use: https://www.amazon.com/JavaPresse-Grinder-Conical-Brushed-Stainless/dp/B013R3Q7B2/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_79_bs_t_1?_encoding=UTF8=1=8CRZM5VX6DXTT22K7ZB3 They're mostly ceramic, so not as sturdy as steel. It will take about 5 mins to grind the beans. I only use a Chemex or French Press so it's easier to achieve the grind needed. Turkish might not be great as even the entry level steel grinders have problems giving fine espresso/turkish grinds. On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 1:01:18 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Thanks, Sean. That looks inviting, but it's quite a bit larger than I need > (or that would be easy to store in my small coffee/tea cabinet). Is there a > conical burr grinder that is smaller and suitable for no more than 3 cups > of coffee, which I gather means about 1-2 oz of grounds? > > Does anyone have experience with the hand-cranked Hario grinders? How long > does it take, and can you get the grounds Turkish fine? > > A burr grinder would probably give me better results with my press, too ... > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 11:53 AM Sean B. > > wrote: > >> Conical burr grinders are your friend. >> >> This is the one I use daily: >> https://www.amazon.com/Baratza-Encore-Conical-Coffee-Grinder/dp/B007F183LK/ref=zg_bs_14092821_4/140-2207164-7992160?_encoding=UTF8=1=A2DM02FNTSFEYG6CE5R9 >> >> Also, I would never suggest buying in bulk or freezing. Buy fresh in >> small batches and grind right before brewing. >> >> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 12:40:33 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>> Newby questions. I buy beans in bulk, freeze, and grind at need. I >>> prefer (convenience, results) a Melita filter, and thus grind very fine -- >>> this seems (experience) to give best flavor. >>> >>> Now: I use a blade grinder. After 20 seconds, the resulting very fine >>> meal seems quite uniform (an I don't notice any degradation in flavor from >>> heating -- the stuff doesn't get hot, just very mildly warm). BUT: grinding >>> beans straight from the freezer leaves the meal hard to handle: it' like >>> staticky fine long hair; it goes everywhere and makes a mess. >>> >>> So my question comes down to this: I'm perfectly happy with the taste >>> from a blade grinder and Melita, but I'd like a grinder that doesn't leave >>> a mess when grinding frozen beans very fine. >>> >>> Would a burr grinder help in this regard? >>> >>> I see electric burr grinders for sub $50, and I see Hario crank burr >>> grinders for the same price. Which are better, and why? >>> >>> This place says no burr grinder under $100 is any good (I take it Harios >>> are exceptions to this rule). Is this rule right? >>> >>> Lastly: Open to general comments about storing, grinding, and brewing >>> coffee, but I am happy with my routine except for the mess described. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Patrick Moore, drinking his coffee strong and black in Lenten ABQ, NM. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And >>> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the >>> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* >>> --- J.R.R. Tolkien >>> --- >>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews >>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching >>> Other professional writing services >>> Expensive! But good. >>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > > > > > ** > > > > > > *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And > though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the > hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* > --- J.R.R. Tolkien > --- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching > Other professional writing services > Expensive! But good. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!
Thanks, Sean. That looks inviting, but it's quite a bit larger than I need (or that would be easy to store in my small coffee/tea cabinet). Is there a conical burr grinder that is smaller and suitable for no more than 3 cups of coffee, which I gather means about 1-2 oz of grounds? Does anyone have experience with the hand-cranked Hario grinders? How long does it take, and can you get the grounds Turkish fine? A burr grinder would probably give me better results with my press, too ... On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 11:53 AM Sean B. wrote: > Conical burr grinders are your friend. > > This is the one I use daily: > https://www.amazon.com/Baratza-Encore-Conical-Coffee-Grinder/dp/B007F183LK/ref=zg_bs_14092821_4/140-2207164-7992160?_encoding=UTF8=1=A2DM02FNTSFEYG6CE5R9 > > Also, I would never suggest buying in bulk or freezing. Buy fresh in small > batches and grind right before brewing. > > On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 12:40:33 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> Newby questions. I buy beans in bulk, freeze, and grind at need. I prefer >> (convenience, results) a Melita filter, and thus grind very fine -- this >> seems (experience) to give best flavor. >> >> Now: I use a blade grinder. After 20 seconds, the resulting very fine >> meal seems quite uniform (an I don't notice any degradation in flavor from >> heating -- the stuff doesn't get hot, just very mildly warm). BUT: grinding >> beans straight from the freezer leaves the meal hard to handle: it' like >> staticky fine long hair; it goes everywhere and makes a mess. >> >> So my question comes down to this: I'm perfectly happy with the taste >> from a blade grinder and Melita, but I'd like a grinder that doesn't leave >> a mess when grinding frozen beans very fine. >> >> Would a burr grinder help in this regard? >> >> I see electric burr grinders for sub $50, and I see Hario crank burr >> grinders for the same price. Which are better, and why? >> >> This place says no burr grinder under $100 is any good (I take it Harios >> are exceptions to this rule). Is this rule right? >> >> Lastly: Open to general comments about storing, grinding, and brewing >> coffee, but I am happy with my routine except for the mess described. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Patrick Moore, drinking his coffee strong and black in Lenten ABQ, NM. >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And >> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the >> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* >> --- J.R.R. Tolkien >> --- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching >> Other professional writing services >> Expensive! But good. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
