Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Patrick Moore]

I must keep an eye on those "Adventure Pants." I also have to keep a rein
on my spending, but the Alitta pants I got at GW t'other day made me think
that perhaps I'd like something a bit heavier than the Rock Bros. Alas, the
Alittas are L, and, after riding in them yesterday and finding it hard
despite the velcro shin strap to keep the right leg off the chain, they'll
go to my bigger little brother, and just perhaps I'll get the REIs or
perhaps the Alittas in Med.

I owned a pair of MUSA knickers and the original pants. I can put up with
no zip fly, but I found the waist cut far too low -- uncomfortable when I
ride  on the hoods. But I did like the look - trim but not tight -- and the
fabric weight was just right.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Patrick Kelly  wrote:

> While I wasn't totally satisfied with the musa knickers I had briefly,
> they did convince me that nylon is good for riding pants. For me, I
> like REI's "adventure pants"
> (http://www.rei.com/product/877606/rei-adventures-pants-mens-32-inseam).
> I have 2 pairs which I alternate almost continuously.
>
> They're a good weight of nylon, maybe not as thick as musa, and well
> designed. Actually, REI changes specs sometimes (from year to year, I
> think), so some years the weight is not right. When I found that this
> years batch was good, I bought my current 2 pairs. (I've "outgrown" my
> other pair.) Pretty easy to roll up the cuffs to create that knicker
> effect.  Grin.
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Garth  wrote:
> >
> >For anyone fretting over the clothing not being made anymore, there
> are
> > many people , family, friends, professionals, who can replicate your
> > favorite pants, shorts etc.  Good fabric can be bought online, as well as
> > all the fittings etc.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Patrick Moore]

O my, another choice!

David: how do these Royce Peak pants feel when you are bending over in the
hooks? Do they give you that awful "there's a draft back there" feeling?

One nice thing about the Alittas is that they have an elasticized waist,
but also belt loops.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 2:58 PM, David Person  wrote:

> I love these Columbia Royce Peak Cargo pants.  Great weight.  With my
> wife's help we made a couple pairs into shorts, which I use for riding in
> most of the time, using the full length pants for everyday wear and on bike
> wear when it's cold enough to warrant long pants.  When you can catch them
> on sale at Amazon they are a great deal.  I've picked them up for as low as
> $35 a pair.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-Royce-Peak-Cargo-Pant/dp/B00GWNGMTW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1454795671=8-1=royce+peak+cargo
>
> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-8, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>>
>> While I wasn't totally satisfied with the musa knickers I had briefly,
>> they did convince me that nylon is good for riding pants. For me, I
>> like REI's "adventure pants"
>> (http://www.rei.com/product/877606/rei-adventures-pants-mens-32-inseam).
>> I have 2 pairs which I alternate almost continuously.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Patrick Moore]

It's just right from about 45*F down to 30*F if it's not windy, over a Wabi
Woolens LS jersey. The high button neck keeps me from getting sore throats;
with other garments I use a scarf. I recently bought my first real cycling
jacket in years, of midweight fabrick, high collar, etc, but tho' this is
nice in wind, I find that, even below freezing and layered over just one
jersey, I start to sweat after a few miles. The tweed jersey is warm but
breathes and, like other wool, adapts to a far greater range of temps.

I scored the tweed, 4 ss wool jerseys including a very appealing Cycles
Wolfe Bienne retro copy with both rear and *front *pockets and a retro
Raleigh jersey, a pair of wool cycling shorts, and a (too small, alas) pair
of Euro wool cycling tights, for $120 or so from John Stamstadt who was
selling the bunch several years ago.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 2:01 PM, William deRosset 
wrote:

> >But I love my woolywarm ragg "overjersey" -- like a heavy sweater in
> cyclists' jersey cut -- and the Rivendell ls "regular" jerseys were very
> nice; in fact, I had one >that was too long and too wide. I tried to shrink
> it a bit, finally washing it on "hot" and drying it on "cottons" -- no
> luck, it didn't shrink a bit. I gave it to my (larger) >brother.
>
> Dear Patrick
>
> That tweed wool jersey was the best clothing item Rivendell ever produced,
> and I've owned a fair amount of their stuff. Right weight, machine
> washable, good club cut, reasonable arm length for cycling, pockets in
> exactly the right spot, button neck. It was not easily improved, and it was
> my favorite winter item for a decade.
>
> I should have bought a second one, as I eventually tore a hole in the body
> and foolishly sent it to Alex Clarke (Woolistic) to get rewoven. They
> misplaced it (along with my DC randonneurs jersey, and a the Ktena black
> wool jersey I took to PBP 2011) and flat refused to do anything about it.
>
> Best,
>
> Will
>
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 10:38:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> New entry yesterday says that MUSA items will be cut back because they
>> are cash flow killers. I have mixed feelings; on the one hand, I can find
>> cycling clothing that, if not better overall, is certainly better for my
>> uses, in many other places (eg, instead of MUSA pants, which I've owned,
>> the Alitta pants I got (at GW, but they are available on sale online for
>> $49) fit and feel better and *have a gdamn zip fly!!!*
>>
>> But I love my woolywarm ragg "overjersey" -- like a heavy sweater in
>> cyclists' jersey cut -- and the Rivendell ls "regular" jerseys were very
>> nice; in fact, I had one that was too long and too wide. I tried to shrink
>> it a bit, finally washing it on "hot" and drying it on "cottons" -- no
>> luck, it didn't shrink a bit. I gave it to my (larger) brother.
>>
>> But Crapmanship! What a nice notion! It reminds me of the gear I made in
>> high school from very primitive materials: push gocart of which the wheels
>> were sections I sawed by hand from logs, with tires strips of large tin can
>> nailed to the wood. The knife I made from an old bolt by heating it red and
>> hammering it flat, then shaping it with a file. The "brass" repousse work
>> made from other tin cans with brass colored interior, cut into strips,
>> hammered, and nailed to the firecracker guns I made: one musket and one
>> pistol. I'm very glad we had no internet back then; hell, we didn't even
>> have TV where we lived.
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Garth]

Check out Railriders pants and shorts too.  The x-treme adventure pànt has 
velcro cuffs, their oher styles do not. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Patrick Kelly]

While I wasn't totally satisfied with the musa knickers I had briefly,
they did convince me that nylon is good for riding pants. For me, I
like REI's "adventure pants"
(http://www.rei.com/product/877606/rei-adventures-pants-mens-32-inseam).
I have 2 pairs which I alternate almost continuously.

They're a good weight of nylon, maybe not as thick as musa, and well
designed. Actually, REI changes specs sometimes (from year to year, I
think), so some years the weight is not right. When I found that this
years batch was good, I bought my current 2 pairs. (I've "outgrown" my
other pair.) Pretty easy to roll up the cuffs to create that knicker
effect.  Grin.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Garth  wrote:
>
>For anyone fretting over the clothing not being made anymore, there are
> many people , family, friends, professionals, who can replicate your
> favorite pants, shorts etc.  Good fabric can be bought online, as well as
> all the fittings etc.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[Robert Barr]

I with you Deacon. The knicks are my Spring and Fall favorites!

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> I live in MUSA knickers (breeches for you UK lot who are currently
> snickering. Grin.) and mine are already several years old and sporting
> myriad patches. Sadly, I learned from Riv yesterday that no large
> knickers/breeches remain. No one else makes baggy knickers with a
> sweatpants waist, but I'll be asking my wife to figure out how.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 10:38:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> New entry yesterday says that MUSA items will be cut back because they
>> are cash flow killers.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[David Person]

I love these Columbia Royce Peak Cargo pants.  Great weight.  With my 
wife's help we made a couple pairs into shorts, which I use for riding in 
most of the time, using the full length pants for everyday wear and on bike 
wear when it's cold enough to warrant long pants.  When you can catch them 
on sale at Amazon they are a great deal.  I've picked them up for as low as 
$35 a pair.

http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-Royce-Peak-Cargo-Pant/dp/B00GWNGMTW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1454795671=8-1=royce+peak+cargo

On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-8, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>
> While I wasn't totally satisfied with the musa knickers I had briefly, 
> they did convince me that nylon is good for riding pants. For me, I 
> like REI's "adventure pants" 
> (http://www.rei.com/product/877606/rei-adventures-pants-mens-32-inseam). 
> I have 2 pairs which I alternate almost continuously. 
>
>
>

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