Re: [RBW] barsack & lights?

2017-11-21 Thread Eric Norris 
I keep a light on my helmet (Exposure Lights “Joystick,” but any reasonably 
bright lamp will work) year-‘round. In blinking mode, it helps make me more 
visible to motorists, and it helps light the way if I get caught out after 
dark, which happens occasionally even in summer.

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> On Nov 21, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Tim Gavin  
> wrote:
> 
> Regarding light height, I've found that a two-light solution works best 
> off-road.  One light on the bike, and another on the helmet to light around 
> corners.  I keep the light on my helmet all winter.
> 
> Something to consider if you lower the light height and don't like it.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:02 PM, RonaTD  > wrote:
> This is a GREAT question! I’ve been struggling with it for years. I love 
> handlebar bags, but they make headlight mounting a challenge if you don’t 
> have a nice rack-mount alternative.
> 
> One option is to raise the light high enough to get over the bag. There are 
> various mounts made to add light/gps unit space to crowded handlebars. I have 
> one made by Minoura that came in two lengths. The tall one gets the light 
> high enough, but I find it distracting to be in front of my face like that. 
> On the other hand, the light also hits the top of the bag, which can help if 
> you have a map or cue sheet there at night.
> 
> As others have mentioned, I don’t think visibility suffers when mounting mid 
> fork or even at the fork end. Paul components makes a nice mount that can be 
> bolted to an eyelet with a typical M5 bolt. It can also be attached anywhere 
> on the fork blade with a p-clamp.
> 
> I’ve used all those methods and more. Over the weekend I transferred all the 
> parts from one frame to another. The new frame has a mid-fork braze on for a 
> rack, which is a great place for the light. On this bike I have a front rack 
> with a basket on it, and my backpack goes on the basket, so the light HAS to 
> go down low, low enough to fit under the basket.
> 
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Re: [RBW] barsack & lights?

2017-11-21 Thread Patrick Moore 
A separate but still closely related question: In your (2nd person personal
pronoun, plural, genitive case, otherwise stated as "y'all's" or even "all
y'all's") experience: where is the best place to place a very bright light
for moderate off road riding -- rough and sandy, but generally flat, with
some roots and gravel?

I know Surly says, at the dropout, but I've tried that and found it too
low. Presently, on my Matthews, sort of by default (because the system is
designed to have you mount your bar there) it is mounted on the bar just to
the right of the clamp, and I've found it fine. but I wonder if any of
youse have gotten better off road illumination from crown or mid fork
height mounting? The light is a K-Lite, the one with high and low (1200 and
600 claimed) and a 10 minute capacitor.

Noted about the 2 lights for off road suggestion.

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Re: [RBW] barsack & lights?

2017-11-21 Thread Tim Gavin 
Regarding light height, I've found that a two-light solution works best
off-road.  One light on the bike, and another on the helmet to light around
corners.  I keep the light on my helmet all winter.

Something to consider if you lower the light height and don't like it.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:02 PM, RonaTD  wrote:

> This is a GREAT question! I’ve been struggling with it for years. I love
> handlebar bags, but they make headlight mounting a challenge if you don’t
> have a nice rack-mount alternative.
>
> One option is to raise the light high enough to get over the bag. There
> are various mounts made to add light/gps unit space to crowded handlebars.
> I have one made by Minoura that came in two lengths. The tall one gets the
> light high enough, but I find it distracting to be in front of my face like
> that. On the other hand, the light also hits the top of the bag, which can
> help if you have a map or cue sheet there at night.
>
> As others have mentioned, I don’t think visibility suffers when mounting
> mid fork or even at the fork end. Paul components makes a nice mount that
> can be bolted to an eyelet with a typical M5 bolt. It can also be attached
> anywhere on the fork blade with a p-clamp.
>
> I’ve used all those methods and more. Over the weekend I transferred all
> the parts from one frame to another. The new frame has a mid-fork braze on
> for a rack, which is a great place for the light. On this bike I have a
> front rack with a basket on it, and my backpack goes on the basket, so the
> light HAS to go down low, low enough to fit under the basket.
>
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Re: [RBW] barsack & lights?

2017-11-21 Thread Tim Gavin 
You could get an extender/adapter that adds another mount above the bars.
Like the Topeak BarXtender
,
or similar products from Minoura or others.  These types of mounts aren't
elegant, but a battery light on the bar isn't elegant to begin with.

But personally, I have a rando bag on a Mark's rack, and a dynamo light
mounted to the tang on the nose of the Mark's rack.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> "This": https://problemsolversbike.com/article/finally-beginning-to-
> see-the-light
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> ...
>>
>
>
>> This is interesting, less for the components than for the information
>> about lighting and positioning.
>> ...
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Re: [RBW] barsack & lights?

2017-11-21 Thread Patrick Moore 
"This":
https://problemsolversbike.com/article/finally-beginning-to-see-the-light

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> ...
>


> This is interesting, less for the components than for the information
> about lighting and positioning.
> ...
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Re: [RBW] barsack & lights?

2017-11-21 Thread Patrick Moore 
Maggie: if your light is bright enough to ride by, it will be easily seen
by oncoming traffic even if it is attached at the dropout -- there are
little doodads that bolt to the eyelets and let you mount lights down
there. At fork crown height, no problem either.

This is interesting, less for the components than for the information about
lighting and positioning.

FWIW, 10 or 12 years ago, with the first LED battery lights, I'd attach 2,
one to each fork leg about 2/3 of the way up from the dropouts -- dual
beams! I never had problems. Now I prefer my lights at the crown if I can
arrange it.

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:44 PM, Maggie Zhou  wrote:

> Fellow Sackville BarSack runners--
>
> What do y'all do about running front lights with the barsack?
>
> I love this bag. I have no immediate desire to run a different front bag,
> but with the shortness of the days where I live right now, I need to be
> running a front light during my evening commute. I've been mounting mine to
> the fork, but I think that's a little low for visibility to cars. What do
> y'all do? I looked at putting it on my headtube below the bag, but I'm a
> short person who rides small frames, and there isn't a light's worth of
> visibility under the barsack there.
>
> Maggie
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