Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
Of course we should have crazy rides for people who want crazy rides. Point is, we should also mellow rides for people who want mellow rides. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Great thing about these big events is that it gives folks options. I don't mind trying to figure out a ride for those looking for doing something stupid. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:40:51 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Yay for Riv Chicas on new Bettys. And Riv Chicas on other bikes. And I hope and anticipate that we have some rides for people who don't want to do crazy long or crazy fast (or just crazy) rides. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Anne, I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty. Though she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more now that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica warrior ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not represented. -Hugh On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/X4rAXoBEfTs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this
[RBW] Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
I'll second the recommendation for the Carradice Nelson. It will do what you're wanting, for years. But if you want to use it as a book bag off the bike, there are panniers better suited to that. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
I'd recommend the Saddlesack Large for books.I own both the Carradice Nelson and Camper and they are great bags, but for books, the Saddlesack bags with a rack are the way to go hands down.They so easy to use and so spacious, they make carrying stuff on your bike a no-brainer. Matt On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:40:35 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote: With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for ferrying books a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring. Each has a rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). Suggestions appreciated. --Tom in Miami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Dual diagatubes?! This bike is going to be amazing and truly unique. Parts lists for the build sounds cool. I love those IRD needle bearing headsets- best ever IMHO, and the Phil Rivy hub will be sweet. Also regarding the 40/26 crank, I have one and after exhaustively cataloging/obsessing about the range of ratios I rode it, and it works great. You might shift up front a bit more than with a 36 or 38t bigger ring (or 28t small)- BUT for me, commuting on a quickbeam 30 miles R/T fairly regularly (and loving it)... being able to shift while pedaling(!) is planted firmly in perspective, and furthermore, I just got much better at front shifts on the geared bikes. Matt On Thursday, August 22, 2013 5:08:36 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: Here's some fun news! I talked with Mark at Riv and there seems to be a groovy design solution to having a really small frame (in the 50cm range) with a diagatube! When last you tuned in (if you tuned in at all), you might recall (or might not) that Grant said that getting a diagatube, lugs, and clearance for 55mm tires and fenders was like trying to get 4 balls into 3 and a half holes. Here's how it's likely to go: 26 wheels (already knew that) and— —*double* small diameter old school Mixte-style diagatubes that are mitered and fillet brazed somewhere about the head tube. Where it's brazed to will be Mark Nobilette's choice; could be to the top tube, could be to the head tube, could be to the bottom tube. Mark was quite excited as he described it. It would be truly totally custom. Current thinking on the build kit is as follows: 58 Boscos, Meisha's Cork (normal), Paul Thumbies + Shimano BarEnds, brake levers to be determined, Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset Phil Rivy Hub - Rivy 32h Rear Hub, New SON 28 32H Front Hub, 26 Aeroheat Rims, Schwalbe Big Bens Sugino XD2 wide/low double Crank 40t x 26t, VP Thin Gripster pedals Brooks Champion Flyer select, Paul Tall and Handsome seatpost As always, your thoughts are welcomed! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv related items for sale; Riv Readers, grip kings, trunksack, rain pants, splats, etc...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
Our tandem, which is quite large, has 26 wheels. The rims are from DaVinci and are very good. Since they promote 26 as the right wheel for tandems, and it does have distinct advantages for them, I doubt they will go away. Michael On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:37:05 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think they'll every do away with them, but they'll be relegated to entry level bikes only. I think it's Giant that's converting it's entire women-specific line up to 650B. Cool for the B movement, but not so cool for the woman that wants the perfectly rideable 26 bike. On 8/22/13, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: If the bike world dispenses with both 559 and 571, I'll be SOL since my two customs use quote 26 inch unquote wheels. Fortunately I have a stash. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The 559 MTB world is getting smaller. I hear some fairly large MTB companies are more or less pulling the plug on 559. Santa Cruz comes to mind. Jim On Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:14:48 PM UTC-5, William wrote: Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv National Jamboree Poll
Interesting proposal, Andrew. It will be Riv's 20th after all. As much as I'd like something closer to Texas to make my travel easier, Mount Diablo is a compelling proposal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
On 08/22/2013 10:55 PM, William wrote: Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. My jump is 47% between chainrings. That's much bigger than the 27% jump from your 36 to your 46, but it is smaller than the 50% jump from your 24 to your 36. I don't know if I should go mad or not! There's a difference between going from a rarely used small granny to middle ring, and a routine, do it all day long on every ride, shift from small to large chain ring. It takes a lot of drama to force me to shift to the granny, and I don't mind a little of the same getting off of it. It happens only in exceptional circumstances: I spend most of my time riding in rolling country, not the mountains, and in rolling country I don't have to use the granny.A wide range double, on the other hand, is shifted often. However, everyone has to find gearing that they're happy with. There are obviously some who can tolerate frequent wide-range crossovers, and -- especially with the new breed of ultra wide range cassettes like the 11-36 -- many whose needs are fully met by them. Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
If you decide go the pannier route: I got a Carradice Bike Bureau for grad school, which I'm very happy with. It swaps easily between my Sam Hillborne and my cyclocross bike. My only complaint is with the slightly fiddly locking mechanism on the Carradice hooks - I replaced them with Ortlieb QL1 and now it's dead simple to just snatch up the bag and head inside, and drop it back on the rack after class. Of course, piling on a front rack works, too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/edith_john_stowe/8433986241/ -John On Friday, August 23, 2013 3:49:36 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote: I'd recommend the Saddlesack Large for books.I own both the Carradice Nelson and Camper and they are great bags, but for books, the Saddlesack bags with a rack are the way to go hands down.They so easy to use and so spacious, they make carrying stuff on your bike a no-brainer. Matt On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:40:35 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote: With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for ferrying books a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring. Each has a rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). Suggestions appreciated. --Tom in Miami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
That sounds like it will be one sweet bike ! For those debating about the 40/26 chainring choice, you seem to miss the part about Liesl's rear hub choice : A Phil Rivy . That is a freewheel hub. Likely she will be using a 13t low cog, maybe a 12t if she has them. I could totally see having a 80 inch top gear being just fine, it depends on the rider ! Even on my Bombadil, with a 24/36/48 , I ride in the 36t using a 13-32 7sp. FW most of the time. I could , if I had to even use the 36t only, especially if I did not live in the hilly terrain I do ! As far as brakes,while I'm one for old school post style cantilevers, I'd say get some polished silver Pauls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
Tom, Short Answer: another vote for a large Saddlesack. Long Answer: be sure to think through your commuting process. From personal experience, I transitioned from panniers to a large Saxdlesack because of my personal routine and preferences. I commute several days a week by bike and the other days by car or bus. When I started bike commuting, I liked panniers for the ease of attaching and removal from bike. Over time, though, I found transferring things from panniers to a briefcase or a backpack tedious on the days I drove or took the bus. (i am sure there are panniers that convert to backpacks or briefcases to allow easier transport off the bike.) The large Saddlesack is spacious enough to hold my briefcase and/or backpack. This keeps life more simple and minimizes the likelihood I forget something in a bag at home. The downside to the large Saddlesack is that it is not as easy to switch it between bikes as with a set of panniers. Finally, a more permanently attach Saddlesack might bring unwanted attention to your bike depending on where you have to secure it at school. All the best, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
There are more compromises available to riders than that between a triple on the one hand and a w r d with frequent crossover shifts, on the other. The whole point of switching to w r d's is, for some, precisely to avoid the annoying crossover shifts between large and middle on standard triples. My own choice was to give up the high end for an 85 high so that I can have close ratios in the middle of the 9 speed cassette while preserving the large cogs, so that the outer gives me more or less the range of the middle and the inner remains a granny. I find a 44/30 with 14-23 7 excellent for the Ram's pavement, and a 38/24 with 13-32 9 excellent for the Fargo's dirt. Ram on the outer: 85-79-74-70-64-60-50; inner: 45-40-35. Most of my riding in rolling terrain in the 60 to 74. Fargo (probably closer to Steve's triple): 85-73-69-65-61-55-48-42-34; inner 30-27-22. Most of my riding in dirt in the 42 to 65. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 08/22/2013 10:55 PM, William wrote: Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. My jump is 47% between chainrings. That's much bigger than the 27% jump from your 36 to your 46, but it is smaller than the 50% jump from your 24 to your 36. I don't know if I should go mad or not! There's a difference between going from a rarely used small granny to middle ring, and a routine, do it all day long on every ride, shift from small to large chain ring. It takes a lot of drama to force me to shift to the granny, and I don't mind a little of the same getting off of it. It happens only in exceptional circumstances: I spend most of my time riding in rolling country, not the mountains, and in rolling country I don't have to use the granny.A wide range double, on the other hand, is shifted often. However, everyone has to find gearing that they're happy with. There are obviously some who can tolerate frequent wide-range crossovers, and -- especially with the new breed of ultra wide range cassettes like the 11-36 -- many whose needs are fully met by them. Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
Thanks to all for the fine suggestions; good choices, and for the long haul too. John Stowe: you put that front rack to many good uses, carrying two loads we cannot yet get in South Florida: Fat Tire, and things from Trader Joe's. We keep hearing happy rumors . . . . On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:17 AM, John Stowe stowe.j...@gmail.com wrote: If you decide go the pannier route: I got a Carradice Bike Bureau for grad school, which I'm very happy with. It swaps easily between my Sam Hillborne and my cyclocross bike. My only complaint is with the slightly fiddly locking mechanism on the Carradice hooks - I replaced them with Ortlieb QL1 and now it's dead simple to just snatch up the bag and head inside, and drop it back on the rack after class. Of course, piling on a front rack works, too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/edith_john_stowe/8433986241/ -John On Friday, August 23, 2013 3:49:36 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote: I'd recommend the Saddlesack Large for books.I own both the Carradice Nelson and Camper and they are great bags, but for books, the Saddlesack bags with a rack are the way to go hands down.They so easy to use and so spacious, they make carrying stuff on your bike a no-brainer. Matt On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:40:35 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote: With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for ferrying books a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring. Each has a rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). Suggestions appreciated. --Tom in Miami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/DWJHrzq02O0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] messing around with my Hunqapillar
Cyclotourist (Dave? Jim? Tony? Abdul Rahman?) -- can you link to an example of a nice looking Dimension? I wouldn't mind having a second choice besides Nitto, but a quick Google (v, intr.) shows only conventional threadless. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:54 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: I think the Dimension stems are beautiful. Very clean welds, high polish. And aesthetically, I don't know what's wrong with a pop-top stem. It looks 100% fine to my eye, and being able to change bars is 835% more convenient than a traditional quill. As to threadless in general, I definitely prefer them to threaded headsets/quills. I don't like adjusting threaded headsets at all, but the 5mm hex adjustment on thraeadless is just fantastic. YMMV of course :-) On 8/22/13, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: I have a few of these stems, some Dimension branded, some Civia, and they are fantastic for the price. I'd love to see more pop top quills. Pragmatics beats aesthetics for me most of the time. I'm currently riding two bikes with quill stems the wrong length because I'm too lazy to replace the shellacked cork grips on them. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
One other point about the large saddlesack: if you use it with a QR saddlebag mount, it is super easy to take on and off the bike. In fact, I'd put it up against anything in terms of ease of attachment/removal. On Friday, August 23, 2013 9:55:20 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote: Tom, Short Answer: another vote for a large Saddlesack. Long Answer: be sure to think through your commuting process. From personal experience, I transitioned from panniers to a large Saxdlesack because of my personal routine and preferences. I commute several days a week by bike and the other days by car or bus. When I started bike commuting, I liked panniers for the ease of attaching and removal from bike. Over time, though, I found transferring things from panniers to a briefcase or a backpack tedious on the days I drove or took the bus. (i am sure there are panniers that convert to backpacks or briefcases to allow easier transport off the bike.) The large Saddlesack is spacious enough to hold my briefcase and/or backpack. This keeps life more simple and minimizes the likelihood I forget something in a bag at home. The downside to the large Saddlesack is that it is not as easy to switch it between bikes as with a set of panniers. Finally, a more permanently attach Saddlesack might bring unwanted attention to your bike depending on where you have to secure it at school. All the best, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
What a pretty orange! Young man at bike shop yesterday said he was ordering a Cross Check in one of the only two colors available, in his case black, and having the frameset powdercoated orange. I inwardly winced, but if it is anything like your QB's orange, it will be a beauty. Nicer than Eddy's orange! On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:02 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Jason. Everybody is happy about it! On 8/22/13, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: David, What a great bike! Congratulations. Jason On Aug 22, 2013, at 7:43 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?
Yeah, I've always run mainly Shimano hubs and thought boutique hubs a bit of a waste of money. But since I had a little extra cash to blow and had a wheelset built around White Industry hubs, I get it. They're fantastic, and I'd have a hard time choosing anything else, excepting budgetary restraints... On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: First wheelset Rich built for me, my 700c set, was on older XT hubs and Dyad rims; just about perfect, for me. The second wheelset he built for me was a 650b Synergy set, but switched to LX hubs because he was out of the older XT hubs. Again, a great set. The wheelset I built myself, I used 650b A23 rims with a DH-3N72 dynohub with a 105 rear; they've also been trouble-free. Common thing among all of these: Velocity rims, Shimano hubs, and 36h for each wheel. I'm not a little guy, I'm 250, I just feel 'more secure' on higher-spoke-count rims. That was why I picked a N72 instead of going for the N80 dynohub, as it only goes to 32h; if you want a Shimano dynohub in 36h, you have to go back to the 72. (And, the 72 is still a good hub, IMHO... the 80 is a little lighter, but, I'm not a hard-core gram-counter). I actually have another 36h N72 sitting on the shelf, for a future wheelbuild. I would like a SON, I like their looks better, but, the Shimanos are good value. (And, there's that other new dynohub, another to consider Shutter Precision? But I want 36h instead of 32h, so, I will either continue using the 72 Shimanos or have to bite the bullet and switch to SON for 36h I think, though, for future wheelbuilds that aren't going to involve a dynohub, I would look hard at White Industries. I've had several wheelbuilders suggest them instead of Phils or Chris Kings...(and, no one has ever recommended Hope? I don't know why...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Announcing Rivendell Grin Fundo!
I'm in! Pretty much in the same boat across the board. I'm looking for a sleeping bag tomorrow and will borrow the rest of the gear from a buddy. I want to take my S1 which is my only Riv bike but I don't have the bike legs on a trip like this. So now I have to pick a bike from the stable which are either under geared or under racked. Borrowing a bike was tempting. I'm struggling with how much water to bring so any suggestions would be helpful. As for food - I'd be happy just eating a Super Burrito but don't know if that would keep or travel well. Maybe just a bunch of bars, fruit nuts. I'm still debating on the Nesbit - I enjoy/require coffee in the morning but debating if I can just get by with an instant Starbucks pack and just have it cold. Whiskey - Yes! I'll bring something along as well. AD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Mustache Bars, Nitto Stem, Seat Post
Update #2: 1) Nitto 65 (Crystal Fellow) Seat Post - Sold 2) Cockpit Parted Out: - Mustache Bars - $40 - Mafac gold anodized brake levers (hoods have dry rot) - $20 3) 26 x 1 (650 x 18c-25c) inner tubes - no longer for sale 4) Rothko Roller Style Floor Stand - practically new, used only a few times - Sold Jenny On Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:54:48 PM UTC+2, Jenny wrote: Hi all, The following parts are for sale. All items will be shipped via USPS. Please add $6 for small parts or $15 for the mustache cockpit for shipping. Picture of the partial mustache cockpit are here: http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0EYsXDRq0bMmE0http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0EYsXDRq0bMmE0. I prefer not to part out the cockpit, but could be convinced otherwise. The list: 1) Nitto 65 (Crystal Fellow) Seat Post - used with scratches from height adjustments - $30 2) Cockpit: Mustache Bars, 9 cm Nitto Stem (unknown type), Silver Shifter Bar-End Pods (shifters not included), Mafac Gold anodized brake levers (hoods have dry rot), wrapped in medium blue Newbaums Bar Tape - $110 3) 26 x 1 (650 x 18c-25c) inner tubes - $2 4) Rothko Roller Style Floor Stand - practically new, used only a few times - $20 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tl012.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
Another vote for the Saddlesack. I have a medium so I do not need a rack in the back. Currently it is loaded with a tent, summer sleeping bag and a few other items. It is not even close to being stuffed. Make runs to the grocery store with it and can take home any number of items. Medium or large both are great to look at and are very functional. Your mileage may vary. On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Anne Paulson wrote: The Large Saddlesack, or the Medium Saddlesack if you want something smaller. The advantage is the big opening, so it's easy to put books and a laptop in, and you can also fit a sweater or jacket, your lunch, and (with the Large) some groceries on the way home. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Tom Goodmann tgoodm...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for ferrying books a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring. Each has a rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). Suggestions appreciated. --Tom in Miami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Opniel knives
One boat guy I know likes round tip knives because if the boat moves around while he's cutting something and he slips it won't stab him. Come to think of it, why do knives have pointy tips? On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:22:05 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: What's with the rounded tip knife? I don't get why the round tip makes it kiddie safe. Seems more dangerous to me (as the Riv site alludes to -- it looks like a spoon). In my experience, kids learn just fine to respect something that's sharp when they are shown it with respect and see me handling it with respect. On the other hand, I saw that and thought Pipe reaming tool! Cool! Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Schwalbe Marathon Supremes 700x35 and 700x40
Both sets are sold. Thanks to all who expressed interest. Eric On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:11:26 PM UTC-7, gordo wrote: Selling two sets of brand new (still in the box) Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires. One set is 700x35, the other is 700x40. Would like to get $115 for each set including shipping to anywhere in the continental U.S. Local pick-up in San Francisco saves $5 on a set. Thanks for looking! Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW]
Who needs a tent when you have this? http://xxcmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/biketrailer.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
I can think of 3-4 great rides using China Camp as a start-end point and covering a few different types of ride: 1. A mellow ride around the Paradise Loop rollers. Only one medium-size hill along the way. So, a climb out and a climb back in. I would figure the basic loop would be ~25 miles(???), but can be extended with some easy miles and cover a range of great places for a lunch, including a great little seafood shack right out on the pier ;) http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Paradise-Loop http://www.331fish.com/ 2. A medium-effort ride out to Point Reyes and the great Bovine Bakery. Several climbs to deal with, but the scenery is worth it. And none of the hills are killers, though the baked goods may be. http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/point-reyes-loop http://www.thebovinebakery.com/ 3. A harder ride up Mt. Tam either on paved road or trail, followed by the Seven Sisters rollers, the beautiful descent to Alpine Dam, the climb out to beer and sausages in Fairfax, and an easy bit back to China Camp. http://www.strava.com/activities/29392795 http://www.yelp.com/biz/gestalt-haus-fairfax-fairfax 4. A dirt ride: There are lots of single-track-type dirt rides right in China Camp, and many more in the immediate surroundings. http://www.marinfattire.com/chinacampbiketrails.html http://mikesbikes.com/articles/mountain-bike-trails-marin-north-bay-pg126.htm One question I had is it seems many Riv owners own more than one Riv. How many will be packing more than one to the Jamboree? I mention this in hopes of there being some sort of Entmoot called during the event, as that's the only Riv I own. http://arwen-undomiel.com/sc/ttt/Entmoot/Entmoot020.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/visiondrawn/4360903195/ Lee On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: Of course we should have crazy rides for people who want crazy rides. Point is, we should also mellow rides for people who want mellow rides. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Great thing about these big events is that it gives folks options. I don't mind trying to figure out a ride for those looking for doing something stupid. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:40:51 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Yay for Riv Chicas on new Bettys. And Riv Chicas on other bikes. And I hope and anticipate that we have some rides for people who don't want to do crazy long or crazy fast (or just crazy) rides. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Anne, I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty. Though she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more now that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica warrior ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors not represented. -Hugh On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the
Re: [RBW] messing around with my Hunqapillar
They're all threadless... that's the one I mentioned I like. Discussed using one of those with a quill to threadless Nitto adapter. A good option if you want a stem w/ an open fact, but still a bit of a hack. On 8/23/13, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Cyclotourist (Dave? Jim? Tony? Abdul Rahman?) -- can you link to an example of a nice looking Dimension? I wouldn't mind having a second choice besides Nitto, but a quick Google (v, intr.) shows only conventional threadless. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:54 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: I think the Dimension stems are beautiful. Very clean welds, high polish. And aesthetically, I don't know what's wrong with a pop-top stem. It looks 100% fine to my eye, and being able to change bars is 835% more convenient than a traditional quill. As to threadless in general, I definitely prefer them to threaded headsets/quills. I don't like adjusting threaded headsets at all, but the 5mm hex adjustment on thraeadless is just fantastic. YMMV of course :-) On 8/22/13, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: I have a few of these stems, some Dimension branded, some Civia, and they are fantastic for the price. I'd love to see more pop top quills. Pragmatics beats aesthetics for me most of the time. I'm currently riding two bikes with quill stems the wrong length because I'm too lazy to replace the shellacked cork grips on them. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks, Nitto Bars, Rawland Bike
If that crankset is still available hit me up off-list! justinaug...@gmail.com -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] VO Touring Hub vs XT?
On Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:52:34 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: With respect to Alex Wetmore, I personally find this kind of blanket condemnation based on a single example to be both misleading and irritating (and ubiquitous on the internet). I've been selling and personally using the 770/780 series XT hubs with the aluminum axles since they were introduced, and have seen no such problems, even on examples that are used and/or abused heavily. In my experience, they are the best bang for the buck, and based on sheer numbers of debilitating hub failures I've seen/repaired, the 770/780 XT hubs are more reliable than recent Phil cassette hubs. Thanks Jim. Obviously, as a shop owner you see alot more bikes than either Alex or myself and would know if the aluminum axle is a real problem, which in your experience is not. Still, I'm glad Alex pointed out the problem. Further, since the axle he had was fairly new, or appeared to be, I hoped they returned the axle/hub to the LBS to get it warrantied if it was under two years old. That's the best way to get Shimano's attention and would let them know whether the weight savings outweighs any durability issues. Good Luck! On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:12:36 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote: On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:36:08 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: Actually, go with LX. More durable than the XT, it's only drawback compared to the XT is a little bit of weight. These are things I have not directly tested on my own; I am repeating what Rich at Rivendell told me. My LX hub wheels have been outstanding. The hubs look really good and cost less than XT too. Alex Wetmore warned of the problems with the XT (M770) hubs that have aluminum axles: There is one major problem with the LHT wheels. *They are using the FH-M770 rear hub, which has smaller bearings (3/16) than standard Shimano rear hubs (1/4) and uses aluminum axles with easy to strip threads. I knew about the smaller bearings, but just learned about the aluminum axle this weekend with a friend visited with a broken one. *When he took it apart in my shop he discovered that the end cap had stripped the threads in the axle. *I took a photo which you can find here: http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Shimano-XT-Aluminum-Axle/10997988_eTAGA#768940509_7GQHt The axle in the rear is a standard 10mm steel Shimano hub axle. *You can see that the thread pitch and the height of the threads is the same on each. He had not adjusted the bearings from the Shimano factory before having this failure. *I personally think that this is a silly place to save weight on a touring bike and would recommend LX hubs over XT ones for touring and commuting wheelsets. *Since the end cap is also used to preload the bearings it will not be fully threaded onto the axle. *In this case it looks like it was being held on with only two or three threads. I was disappointed to see this development. *XT has almost always been light in smart ways, so that it ends up a little lighter than LX without giving up any durability. *Now it looks like LX is the durable group and My heavy duty city/tour wheelset is built on plain Deores. The bearing feel is phenomenal compared to even five years ago. The seals are magnificent. They just need a little touch of the cone wrench out of the box. So you have been warnedGood Luck! On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:59 AM, mikel...@juno.com wrote: tried and true XT 30-second trick for a flat belly This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body#39;s #1 fat-burning hormone http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5214d62890ccd56284a0fst02duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: 59c A. Homer Hilsen
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. I totally agree with you there. Very useful and very non-confusing. That's why I have that setup, with bar-con shifters on both my touring bike and my tandem. It's fantastic! Furthermore, I'm glad we completely agree about compact doubles. You run your bike like a compact double -PLUS- a granny bail out for extraordinary circumstances that you practically never use. That's precisely how I use my touring bike and my tandem. A close range 46/36 compact double would be fine for you, just like it is with most people, but like a lot of people, you also choose to be prepared for extraordinary circumstances. I have no problem with any of that. Also, it doesn't surprise me much that when you tried a 44/30 and a 40/26 that you found the enormous jump troublesome, particularly on rollers. As you correctly pointed out, people have to find what they like on the terrain they will be riding. I end up using my 44/30 as a 1x9 (or 1x10 on one bike) PLUS a climbing range. If my riding was more on the Pacific coast, where there are a ton of rollers, I would probably swap my 30 tooth ring for a 32 or a 34, because the terrain would dictate far more frequent front shifts, as you correctly pointed out. On Friday, August 23, 2013 5:35:44 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/22/2013 10:55 PM, William wrote: Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. My jump is 47% between chainrings. That's much bigger than the 27% jump from your 36 to your 46, but it is smaller than the 50% jump from your 24 to your 36. I don't know if I should go mad or not! There's a difference between going from a rarely used small granny to middle ring, and a routine, do it all day long on every ride, shift from small to large chain ring. It takes a lot of drama to force me to shift to the granny, and I don't mind a little of the same getting off of it. It happens only in exceptional circumstances: I spend most of my time riding in rolling country, not the mountains, and in rolling country I don't have to use the granny.A wide range double, on the other hand, is shifted often. However, everyone has to find gearing that they're happy with. There are obviously some who can tolerate frequent wide-range crossovers, and -- especially with the new breed of ultra wide range cassettes like the 11-36 -- many whose needs are fully met by them. Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: Nitto Dirt Drop or Periscopa stem 25.4 preferable, can use 26.0
If anyone has either type of stem sitting around, I'd be willing to buy it, 8 or 10 cm doesn't much matter. I should've bought one first, but got a cheap Kalloy version that will NOT work w/ the Midge bars I'm using for an upcoming project so part of the bike budget has already been spent. There will be a Riv handlebar bag hanging off the 'bars attached to the stem just clarify why I'm posting here... Best, Eric Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.
Great. See you all there. Don't wait for me - just let me know when you are headed to dinner and where. I'll make it work. Here's the commuter on the first 10 mies of this journey to work (where my Riv water bottle is, along with the Protovelo I may take if a train ride is involved): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/9575730397/ On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:21:44 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Esteban: I'll keep you posted. The Coaster stops in Oceanside the last one misses the last Metrolink. Across the base isn't too much. OTH, you could AMTRAK to San Clemente. Depends on the dance, I guess. Look forward to seeing you again. dougP On Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:39:52 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: If I hustle, I could be there by 7. Likely closer to 8. I may take the train part of the way to make up for time (gotta see my 7-year-old's dance recital). The Pelican is easier to ride fast, so I may go ultralight and take that. That's the number. Text me when you guys are eating. I could meet you at Sonny's/Pizza Port or eat leftovers with the raccoons. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:47:01 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Esteban: You're leaving USD @ 3? Heading north with a load, what's a reasonable time for you to get there? I'm guessing headwind from Torrey Pines to Oceanside. Across the base isn't too bad. I've got a number for you ending in 0625; still good? Mine never changes. We can keep you posted on our whereabouts. dougP On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:38:56 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: For the record, I will employ a tent, and bring a u-lock, and some rye wiskey, and earplugs in case the local teenagers want to stay up past 11 on a Friday night. 9 can mill about and look like 8. Should be a lot of fun. I'll likely need to high-tail it south on Saturday, so I may not join for a morning ramble. So, when is dinner? Now just gotta decide if the Protovelo or Pelican will make the journey. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:09:34 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote: Hi David, Looking forward to this Riv gathering and meeting new people who ride bikes. I am sure you can entertain us with first hand Manny stories. Should be a few of us riding south on Saturday. Peace On Tuesday, August 20, 2013, David Yu Greenblatt wrote: Howdy, I would like to join you guys. I don't currently own a Riv but I am a FOM (Friend of Manny, with pics to prove it: http://flic.kr/p/dzJi7d http://flic.kr/p/dZu6Ym). I just moved to San Diego from San Francisco and would like to make new bike riding and beer drinking buddies. I should be able to depart Carmel Valley around 4PM (eye appt at 1PM and need to recover from eye dilation). Anybody passing through North County San Diego around then? Esteban, what route are you riding? What is the current head count? Should I book a second campsite? Looking forward to meeting you all. - David Greenblatt On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote: Tom, No worries about my dinner it was no big deal setting things up. Either Sonny's or P.P. work for me. Esteban glad you can make it, looking forward to meeting you. Same goes for you Tom. Mike that's cause mosquitoes like me! No Cowboy camping for me. I'll bring a lock. Tom I'll stash my stuff at camp in my tent another reason to bring a tent. ~Hugh On Monday, August 19, 2013 8:13:25 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: Hugh's turkey chili looks delicious, and I don't want to dis him, but I really don't want to burden him with portaging it down from Irvine on his bike. Google maps indicates a 3.6 mile cruisehttps://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!4m19!3m18!1m5!1sSan+Mateo+Campground%2C+830+Cristianitos+Rd%2C+San+Clemente%2C+CA+92672!2s0x80dcf4e2ac3c2215%3A0x9b0053fcad43b0c6!3m2!3d33.405531!4d-117.584436!1m1!1sSonny's+Pizza+%26+Pasta%2C+429+North+El+Camino+Real%2C+San+Clemente%2C+CA!2e1!3m8!1m3!1d41630!2d-117.5990869!3d33.4124352!3m2!1i2141!2i1200!4f13.1fid=0 down from San Mateo to Sonny's. Recommend we pass the hat for Hugh's dining and liquid refreshment for all of his trouble setting this event up. Just out of interest, how do you folks secure your bikes while dining? I have not owned a bike lock since grade school. Since I left grade school, my policy has been to never let my bike out of my sight. Street view of Sonny'shttps://www.google.com/maps/preview?hl=en#!q=429+N+El+Camino+Real%2C+San+Clemente%2C+CA+92672data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-117.614923!3d33.429577!2m2!1f342.1!2f80.48!4f75!2m4!1e1!2m2!1strb0XLVgnZOobKTM4pIBDw!2e0!4m10!1m9!4m8!1m3!1d670556!2d-117.1089785!3d32.8245525!3m2!1i2141!2i1200!4f13.1fid=5. Not sure about the bike parking situation. Do you leave your gear back in camp? Best regards, Tom On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:12:14 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: SoCal Rivesters, I was thinking of a S240 for
Re: [RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.
Probably not gonna make it. Definitely not to camp, very small chance I'll join you all Saturday morning. Have fun! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Great. See you all there. Don't wait for me - just let me know when you are headed to dinner and where. I'll make it work. Here's the commuter on the first 10 mies of this journey to work (where my Riv water bottle is, along with the Protovelo I may take if a train ride is involved): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/9575730397/ On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:21:44 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Esteban: I'll keep you posted. The Coaster stops in Oceanside the last one misses the last Metrolink. Across the base isn't too much. OTH, you could AMTRAK to San Clemente. Depends on the dance, I guess. Look forward to seeing you again. dougP On Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:39:52 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: If I hustle, I could be there by 7. Likely closer to 8. I may take the train part of the way to make up for time (gotta see my 7-year-old's dance recital). The Pelican is easier to ride fast, so I may go ultralight and take that. That's the number. Text me when you guys are eating. I could meet you at Sonny's/Pizza Port or eat leftovers with the raccoons. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:47:01 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Esteban: You're leaving USD @ 3? Heading north with a load, what's a reasonable time for you to get there? I'm guessing headwind from Torrey Pines to Oceanside. Across the base isn't too bad. I've got a number for you ending in 0625; still good? Mine never changes. We can keep you posted on our whereabouts. dougP On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:38:56 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: For the record, I will employ a tent, and bring a u-lock, and some rye wiskey, and earplugs in case the local teenagers want to stay up past 11 on a Friday night. 9 can mill about and look like 8. Should be a lot of fun. I'll likely need to high-tail it south on Saturday, so I may not join for a morning ramble. So, when is dinner? Now just gotta decide if the Protovelo or Pelican will make the journey. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:09:34 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote: Hi David, Looking forward to this Riv gathering and meeting new people who ride bikes. I am sure you can entertain us with first hand Manny stories. Should be a few of us riding south on Saturday. Peace On Tuesday, August 20, 2013, David Yu Greenblatt wrote: Howdy, I would like to join you guys. I don't currently own a Riv but I am a FOM (Friend of Manny, with pics to prove it: http://flic.kr/p/dzJi7d http://flic.kr/p/dZu6Ym). I just moved to San Diego from San Francisco and would like to make new bike riding and beer drinking buddies. I should be able to depart Carmel Valley around 4PM (eye appt at 1PM and need to recover from eye dilation). Anybody passing through North County San Diego around then? Esteban, what route are you riding? What is the current head count? Should I book a second campsite? Looking forward to meeting you all. - David Greenblatt On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, No worries about my dinner it was no big deal setting things up. Either Sonny's or P.P. work for me. Esteban glad you can make it, looking forward to meeting you. Same goes for you Tom. Mike that's cause mosquitoes like me! No Cowboy camping for me. I'll bring a lock. Tom I'll stash my stuff at camp in my tent another reason to bring a tent. ~Hugh On Monday, August 19, 2013 8:13:25 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: Hugh's turkey chili looks delicious, and I don't want to dis him, but I really don't want to burden him with portaging it down from Irvine on his bike. Google maps indicates a 3.6 mile cruise down from San Mateo to Sonny's. Recommend we pass the hat for Hugh's dining and liquid refreshment for all of his trouble setting this event up. Just out of interest, how do you folks secure your bikes while dining? I have not owned a bike lock since grade school. Since I left grade school, my policy has been to never let my bike out of my sight. Street view of Sonny's. Not sure about the bike parking situation. Do you leave your gear back in camp? Best regards, Tom On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:12:14 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: SoCal Rivesters, I was thinking of a S240 for Friday the 23rd at San Mateo Campground near San Onofre State Beach. For those in the North we could meet at Doug P's home and ride the 30 miles to the site. Those in the South could either meet us at the Metro link station in Irvine and ride down with us or ride the Metro link to Oceanside and ride through Camp Pendleton to the site, a few options to choose from. Suggestions are welcome. Once there we can jump in the Pacific and rollick
[RBW] Re: messing around with my Hunqapillar
I used the VO stem adapter with drop bars on my Hunq. It was fine. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KBapuNJORZ8/TVmZD7MfEXI/BL4/keLB-fuMvPI/s320/IMG_0389.JPG There were no problems, even thrashing around on single tracks in the forest. The only problem was my knees makeing inadvertent shifts for me. After a year of using Bosco's on my Hillborne, dropped the drops and put Bullmoose Bosco's on the Hunq and am a lot happier with them.http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2013/08/err-towards-practical.html Marc On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:01:12 PM UTC-4, Christian wrote: I like riding my Hunqapillar a lot. I also like fussing with it. I'm thinking of taking my 44 Noodles off and putting them back on my 650B rando bike and going with some mountain bars on the Hunq. I like the Bullmoose bar that Riv sells. But it's not cheap. I also really like the looks of the Jones Loop Bars. But I'd need a threadless adapter (Velo Orange and others sell them) or an open face quill--Salsa used to make one--and Profile Designs, Origin-8 and others still do. So, I wonder if anyone's used a threadless adapters or open face quills? They look fine to me. Better yet, anyone have a Salsa non-recall model open face quill stem for sale http://www.salsacromotostem.com/? Or perhaps a Nitto Bullmoose? Thanks Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.
Sorry I can't make it, but I hope everyone has a great time! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
I commute on the Atlantis, and 95 out of 100 days use the medium Sackville Saddlesack. I have to tote books and files and some clothes and usually a thermos or two, occassionally my laptop, always an ipad and a spare keyboard. Outside pockets are dedicated to my kit -- a mini pump, some tools, spare tubes (unused for years due to Schwalbe Marathon burliness, but just in case), everything else goes in the main pocket. It gets pretty full, and although it could (possibly) go without, I do have the nitto big rear rack for support. I use the quick release adapter, which I love, because the bike is locked up in the parking garage. One twist and my kit and stuff and bag are off the bike and safe from the ethically challenged. Makes a perfectly fine handle to tote to and from the office; it's not a briefcase, but is as easy or easier to carry around as the Ortleib's I use on the weekends for grocery runs. I went to this system after several years with the Arkel laptop commuter bag, which was never quite large enough, but had the advantage of a shoulder strap. It also was not (1) nearly as tough as the Saddlesack and (2) required me to pull out its separate waterproof cover when things got a little misty. The only thing I would change about the medium Saddlesack: a pleat around the outside of the side pockets so that they would expand outward rather than intruding into the main compartment. Maybe one day I'll get the large, but the medium is . . . quite big. Rick. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:40:35 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote: With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for ferrying books a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring. Each has a rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). Suggestions appreciated. --Tom in Miami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Living in Chicago with most of my riding thereabouts and in the upper Midwest makes all this easy. My primary bike is a single speed. My tour bike is a 1x5. Up front is a 46. In back a Suntour Winner with 14-34 cogs. (thanks to Patrick Moore who pointed out a new cottage business in New Hampshire that repairs and preps freewheels) While my plan had been to stick with two bikes, I could not resist the temptation to get what will be my third Retrotec. More of a rough stuff cross type bike. This will also be a 1x. Plan to start with a 44 up front. The rear hub is a King single speed. I can either use a variety of King cogs, or, if gears seem necessary, the Jeff Jones (modified Shimano) 6 speed cassette - 16-36. (currently not offered on his site. Hope Mr. Jones starts making these again as I would like to have a couple more.) On Friday, August 23, 2013 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, William wrote: Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. I totally agree with you there. Very useful and very non-confusing. That's why I have that setup, with bar-con shifters on both my touring bike and my tandem. It's fantastic! Furthermore, I'm glad we completely agree about compact doubles. You run your bike like a compact double -PLUS- a granny bail out for extraordinary circumstances that you practically never use. That's precisely how I use my touring bike and my tandem. A close range 46/36 compact double would be fine for you, just like it is with most people, but like a lot of people, you also choose to be prepared for extraordinary circumstances. I have no problem with any of that. Also, it doesn't surprise me much that when you tried a 44/30 and a 40/26 that you found the enormous jump troublesome, particularly on rollers. As you correctly pointed out, people have to find what they like on the terrain they will be riding. I end up using my 44/30 as a 1x9 (or 1x10 on one bike) PLUS a climbing range. If my riding was more on the Pacific coast, where there are a ton of rollers, I would probably swap my 30 tooth ring for a 32 or a 34, because the terrain would dictate far more frequent front shifts, as you correctly pointed out. On Friday, August 23, 2013 5:35:44 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/22/2013 10:55 PM, William wrote: Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. My jump is 47% between chainrings. That's much bigger than the 27% jump from your 36 to your 46, but it is smaller than the 50% jump from your 24 to your 36. I don't know if I should go mad or not! There's a difference between going from a rarely used small granny to middle ring, and a routine, do it all day long on every ride, shift from small to large chain ring. It takes a lot of drama to force me to shift to the granny, and I don't mind a little of the same getting off of it. It happens only in exceptional circumstances: I spend most of my time riding in rolling country, not the mountains, and in rolling country I don't have to use the granny.A wide range double, on the other hand, is shifted often. However, everyone has to find gearing that they're happy with. There are obviously some who can tolerate frequent wide-range crossovers, and -- especially with the new breed of ultra wide range cassettes like the 11-36 -- many whose needs are fully met by them. Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Dirt Drop or Periscopa stem 25.4 preferable, can use 26.0
Thank you Riv list! Got this taken care of. Best, Eric Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv related items for sale; Riv Readers, grip kings, trunksack, rain pants, splats, etc...
Readers, Grip Kings gone. All that's left now is the following, which haven't gotten much response. If anyone wants any of it, but the price isn't right, just let me know. Raleigh Professional Fork (silver not chromed, fits a 35 w/o fenders, 32 w/ fenders, Pasela's at least)- $75 shipped Shimano LX 7 speed group from 1991 Scott Boulder(everything is in good working order, Biopace rings; includes: both der, triple crank working 3x7 shifters brake levers):$60 shipped Origin8 branded Tektro areo levers (black hoods, white lever; never used but no box)-$12 shipped Louis Garneau Winter bike shoes (these:* http://www.performancebike.com/reviews/performance/power/pwr/product-reviews/Shoes-Pedals/Cycling-Shoes/Mountain-Shoes/LOUIS-GARNEAU/p/20__5379-Louis-Garneau-0-Ergo-Grip-Winter-Cycling-Shoe.html *http://www.performancebike.com/reviews/performance/power/pwr/product-reviews/Shoes-Pedals/Cycling-Shoes/Mountain-Shoes/LOUIS-GARNEAU/p/20__5379-Louis-Garneau-0-Ergo-Grip-Winter-Cycling-Shoe.html/ in size ~11; I'll verify for sure, but they're too big for me even w/ wool sox, like new, stored in garage so dusty, but only worn twice- $50 shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv related items for sale; Riv Readers, grip kings, trunksack, rain pants, splats, etc...
LX Group is spoken for. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: messing around with my Hunqapillar
I love Love LOVE the grey + orange Hunqa-look. I almost bought myself one just because it looked so awesome. Nevermind the overlap, always plus one On Friday, August 23, 2013 11:33:50 AM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: I used the VO stem adapter with drop bars on my Hunq. It was fine. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KBapuNJORZ8/TVmZD7MfEXI/BL4/keLB-fuMvPI/s320/IMG_0389.JPG There were no problems, even thrashing around on single tracks in the forest. The only problem was my knees makeing inadvertent shifts for me. After a year of using Bosco's on my Hillborne, dropped the drops and put Bullmoose Bosco's on the Hunq and am a lot happier with them.http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2013/08/err-towards-practical.html Marc On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:01:12 PM UTC-4, Christian wrote: I like riding my Hunqapillar a lot. I also like fussing with it. I'm thinking of taking my 44 Noodles off and putting them back on my 650B rando bike and going with some mountain bars on the Hunq. I like the Bullmoose bar that Riv sells. But it's not cheap. I also really like the looks of the Jones Loop Bars. But I'd need a threadless adapter (Velo Orange and others sell them) or an open face quill--Salsa used to make one--and Profile Designs, Origin-8 and others still do. So, I wonder if anyone's used a threadless adapters or open face quills? They look fine to me. Better yet, anyone have a Salsa non-recall model open face quill stem for sale http://www.salsacromotostem.com/? Or perhaps a Nitto Bullmoose? Thanks Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
Another vote for saddlesacks. I have a large, in which I can stuff books, papers and a laptop for commuting between home, work and a course I'm teaching at the university. One question: Does anyone use the quick release with a large saddlesack? If so, do you have a good method for quick release of the sack from the rack? I'm thinking to just run a strap through it and the rack, but a bit of a fiddle to get on and off. Currently I have it zip tied to the rack. TIA Jim in Boulder On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:40:35 PM UTC-6, Tom Goodmann wrote: With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for ferrying books a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring. Each has a rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). Suggestions appreciated. --Tom in Miami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
I only have the medium, but I just don't attach it to the rack. Stays pretty solid, but I did shake the hardware loose from the saddle on one occasion, and had to reassamble roadside. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
Jim, I use a bungee ball on the bottom of my large SaddleSack. The cord loops through the leather on the bottom of the bag and around the top of the rack. It holds nice and secure. It's not exactly quick release, but it's quickER release... personally I find it more time-consuming (we're talking seconds here) but less irritating than the Ortlieb pannier system. I use my SaddleSack for commuting and take the bag off whenever I leave the bike, including for quick stops at the grocery store on the way home. It may be too much of a fiddle for some people though. Before I thought of the bungee ball I was using a John's Irish strap. That was also OK, but it's more difficult to feed the strap through the buckle than it is to engage a bungee ball, so the bungee ball was a step in the right direction. It was further improved when I started using a half-cut-off zip tie to feed the bungee cord through the rack. I'm not explaining this very well—be happy to post a photo if it helps. Tom Germany -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Glacier, WA to Artist Point.
Took the Sam Hillborne into the hills! From the town of Glacier, WA up 4500-5000 feet to Artist Point near Mt Baker. To bad the last 3 miles were in the clouds. The views of the surrounding mountains would have been spectacular! Pics to prove it - http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/sets/72157635205650116/ - Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS White Industries ENO cranks 170 and 175 with 44 tooth rings
I have two sets of ENO cranks, 170mm and 175mm for sale. They were both black at one time and I de-anodized them. They have a few scuffs etc from riding but still in good condition. Photos can be found here.http://www.flickr.com/photos/87106495@N07/sets/72157635205572514/Right click the photo and choose the original resolution for the best view. With each set of cranks comes one ring, either silver or black, the first person chooses. Both have very low miles and they are 44 tooth. I love these cranks but sadly my single speed days are over. With all the Quickbeam single speed action going on in this board someone might want these cranks or those who want to go a 1 by X setup. The price for each pair is $100.00, plus shipping from Toronto, Canada which would be around $20.00. Buy both pair and I will throw in the White Industries Lock Ring removal tool which is a $41.00 value. New these cranks sell for around $280 for each pair, so they are priced right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
FWIW, you can make your own cassettes with Miche Shimano compatible outer cogs which go as high as 16 t. I used to run a cobbled 7 speed 16-18-20-23-26-34 or somesuch with the stock 46/36/24 X2D chainset set up for most of my riding in the 46. QBP has the Miches and they aren't very expensive. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Living in Chicago with most of my riding thereabouts and in the upper Midwest makes all this easy. My primary bike is a single speed. My tour bike is a 1x5. Up front is a 46. In back a Suntour Winner with 14-34 cogs. (thanks to Patrick Moore who pointed out a new cottage business in New Hampshire that repairs and preps freewheels) While my plan had been to stick with two bikes, I could not resist the temptation to get what will be my third Retrotec. More of a rough stuff cross type bike. This will also be a 1x. Plan to start with a 44 up front. The rear hub is a King single speed. I can either use a variety of King cogs, or, if gears seem necessary, the Jeff Jones (modified Shimano) 6 speed cassette - 16-36. (currently not offered on his site. Hope Mr. Jones starts making these again as I would like to have a couple more.) On Friday, August 23, 2013 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, William wrote: Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. I totally agree with you there. Very useful and very non-confusing. That's why I have that setup, with bar-con shifters on both my touring bike and my tandem. It's fantastic! Furthermore, I'm glad we completely agree about compact doubles. You run your bike like a compact double -PLUS- a granny bail out for extraordinary circumstances that you practically never use. That's precisely how I use my touring bike and my tandem. A close range 46/36 compact double would be fine for you, just like it is with most people, but like a lot of people, you also choose to be prepared for extraordinary circumstances. I have no problem with any of that. Also, it doesn't surprise me much that when you tried a 44/30 and a 40/26 that you found the enormous jump troublesome, particularly on rollers. As you correctly pointed out, people have to find what they like on the terrain they will be riding. I end up using my 44/30 as a 1x9 (or 1x10 on one bike) PLUS a climbing range. If my riding was more on the Pacific coast, where there are a ton of rollers, I would probably swap my 30 tooth ring for a 32 or a 34, because the terrain would dictate far more frequent front shifts, as you correctly pointed out. On Friday, August 23, 2013 5:35:44 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/22/2013 10:55 PM, William wrote: Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. My jump is 47% between chainrings. That's much bigger than the 27% jump from your 36 to your 46, but it is smaller than the 50% jump from your 24 to your 36. I don't know if I should go mad or not! There's a difference between going from a rarely used small granny to middle ring, and a routine, do it all day long on every ride, shift from small to large chain ring. It takes a lot of drama to force me to shift to the granny, and I don't mind a little of the same getting off of it. It happens only in exceptional circumstances: I spend most of my time riding in rolling country, not the mountains, and in rolling country I don't have to use the granny.A wide range double, on the other hand, is shifted often. However, everyone has to find gearing that they're happy with. There are obviously some who can tolerate frequent wide-range crossovers, and -- especially with the new breed of ultra wide range cassettes like the 11-36 -- many whose needs are fully met by them. Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
if you're patient for slow delivery, Outside Outfitters has great prices on the Miche components - put my daughter's cassette together there. On Friday, August 23, 2013 6:16:05 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: FWIW, you can make your own cassettes with Miche Shimano compatible outer cogs which go as high as 16 t. I used to run a cobbled 7 speed 16-18-20-23-26-34 or somesuch with the stock 46/36/24 X2D chainset set up for most of my riding in the 46. QBP has the Miches and they aren't very expensive. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Living in Chicago with most of my riding thereabouts and in the upper Midwest makes all this easy. My primary bike is a single speed. My tour bike is a 1x5. Up front is a 46. In back a Suntour Winner with 14-34 cogs. (thanks to Patrick Moore who pointed out a new cottage business in New Hampshire that repairs and preps freewheels) While my plan had been to stick with two bikes, I could not resist the temptation to get what will be my third Retrotec. More of a rough stuff cross type bike. This will also be a 1x. Plan to start with a 44 up front. The rear hub is a King single speed. I can either use a variety of King cogs, or, if gears seem necessary, the Jeff Jones (modified Shimano) 6 speed cassette - 16-36. (currently not offered on his site. Hope Mr. Jones starts making these again as I would like to have a couple more.) On Friday, August 23, 2013 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, William wrote: Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. I totally agree with you there. Very useful and very non-confusing. That's why I have that setup, with bar-con shifters on both my touring bike and my tandem. It's fantastic! Furthermore, I'm glad we completely agree about compact doubles. You run your bike like a compact double -PLUS- a granny bail out for extraordinary circumstances that you practically never use. That's precisely how I use my touring bike and my tandem. A close range 46/36 compact double would be fine for you, just like it is with most people, but like a lot of people, you also choose to be prepared for extraordinary circumstances. I have no problem with any of that. Also, it doesn't surprise me much that when you tried a 44/30 and a 40/26 that you found the enormous jump troublesome, particularly on rollers. As you correctly pointed out, people have to find what they like on the terrain they will be riding. I end up using my 44/30 as a 1x9 (or 1x10 on one bike) PLUS a climbing range. If my riding was more on the Pacific coast, where there are a ton of rollers, I would probably swap my 30 tooth ring for a 32 or a 34, because the terrain would dictate far more frequent front shifts, as you correctly pointed out. On Friday, August 23, 2013 5:35:44 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/22/2013 10:55 PM, William wrote: Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. My jump is 47% between chainrings. That's much bigger than the 27% jump from your 36 to your 46, but it is smaller than the 50% jump from your 24 to your 36. I don't know if I should go mad or not! There's a difference between going from a rarely used small granny to middle ring, and a routine, do it all day long on every ride, shift from small to large chain ring. It takes a lot of drama to force me to shift to the granny, and I don't mind a little of the same getting off of it. It happens only in exceptional circumstances: I spend most of my time riding in rolling country, not the mountains, and in rolling country I don't have to use the granny.A wide range double, on the other hand, is shifted often. However, everyone has to find gearing that they're happy with. There are obviously some who can tolerate frequent wide-range crossovers, and -- especially with the new breed of ultra wide range cassettes like the 11-36 -- many whose needs are fully met by them. Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!*
[RBW] Light camping stove options
With all the camping talk I wanted to share that I'm impressed with the Vargo hexagon wood stove. Mine is TI but stainless is a great option as well. I really like that you can use it as an esbit stove, drop an alcohol burner in there and use twigs as well. It is light and packs small and light. There are many out there like this if you search for light wood burning stoves. I also use it in my coffee kit for longer rides where I plan to take a break. Coffee prep is an entire new thread, but ill share that the via style makes it tough to mess with much else imo. In Iowa many rides or camping spots have a lot of dead wood around to use, or pack your own. No need to buy fuel of any type. I'm sure it is not ideal for all, but nice for many. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Hi friends, What a tutorial in gears! I'm learning quite a bit! A few comments on that topic from my perspective: I'm in the Edwin W camp. Simple shifting, a bail-out gear...that'll do for me. I, too, ride a single most of the time and I expect to keep my triple Saluki, and my 1x8 Friday is just swell. I live in Minneapolis and most of my riding is my 20 mile commute with only one big hill so this set-up gear-wise will be just fine for me. On the diagatube front, yes, William, they will tentaculate back to the whimsical seatstay/chainstay curls. It will be way cool. And of course, there will still be a top tube. And what are those spanning webs to attach a h2o cage? Gotta picture? On the delivery schedule: Riv is waiting for some tubes, then it will go to Mark Nobillete and he'll have a month/month and a half and then to Joe Bell and he'll also have a month/month and a half, so November would be pushing it. I want to fly out to Riv for the build and be a fly on the wall, so we'll see. On the color front: Khaki WWII green. Thinking about wood fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
And what are those spanning webs to attach a h2o cage? Gotta picture? Not exactly. Here's something close: http://ladyfleur.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/mixte-bike-on-caltrain.jpg?w=640 It's easy to see where you might mount a bottle cage on the downtube, but on your bike, which will have a top tube, I was thinking you might want the bottle cage mounted to the diagatubes. But there are two of them! Bridges spanning the gap could then possess the braze on for a bottle cage. In this picture the bridges serve as cable stops, but it is a similar idea. I remember seeing them on a double-downtube Colnago, like this: http://www.trackosaurusrex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/NagoBondedDouble.jpg On Friday, August 23, 2013 4:53:08 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Hi friends, What a tutorial in gears! I'm learning quite a bit! A few comments on that topic from my perspective: I'm in the Edwin W camp. Simple shifting, a bail-out gear...that'll do for me. I, too, ride a single most of the time and I expect to keep my triple Saluki, and my 1x8 Friday is just swell. I live in Minneapolis and most of my riding is my 20 mile commute with only one big hill so this set-up gear-wise will be just fine for me. On the diagatube front, yes, William, they will tentaculate back to the whimsical seatstay/chainstay curls. It will be way cool. And of course, there will still be a top tube. And what are those spanning webs to attach a h2o cage? Gotta picture? On the delivery schedule: Riv is waiting for some tubes, then it will go to Mark Nobillete and he'll have a month/month and a half and then to Joe Bell and he'll also have a month/month and a half, so November would be pushing it. I want to fly out to Riv for the build and be a fly on the wall, so we'll see. On the color front: Khaki WWII green. Thinking about wood fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Steve writes: In the terrain I ride most, I'd stay on the big ring all the way down the block until I was forced to shift -- and I would be forced to shift every time it got steep, ... I'll be looking for a gear lower than 38 inches, something in the mid to low 30s. In which case I am surprised you are happy with that 36 tooth middle ring. With that, only your two biggest cogs (w/ 32.4 and 36) meet your criteria. Were I in your shoes, I would drop the middle ring size by 4 teeth thereby moving that 36 gear down a cog to the 24t. But of course I am not you, and the great thing is we all get to ride what we like. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:02:18 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/22/2013 06:41 PM, William wrote: 40 x 26 is plenty. Run the numbers with any normal cassette. Compact double is all most people need. You need a triple carrying or hauling lots of weight, and maybe need it for serious off road riding. But if you lay out the numbers, an intelligently selected compact double gives you everything you need and nothing you don't need. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:32:06 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Would it take a triple crank? I am just thinking that a 40t x 26t. double crank seems like it needs a middle ring. 40 53.8 % 26 11 98.2 63.8 18.2 % 13 83.1 54.0 15.4 % 15 72.0 46.8 13.3 % 17 63.5 41.3 11.8 % 19 56.8 36.9 10.5 % 21 51.4 33.4 9.5 % 23 47.0 30.5 8.7 % 25 43.2 28.1 12.0 % 28 38.6 25.1 14.3 % 32 33.8 21.9 OK, here's the 40/26 with an 11-32 10 speed cassette. The range is just fine: 22 low, 98 high. Can't be bettered. But what happens inside the range? In the terrain I ride most, I'd stay on the big ring all the way down the block until I was forced to shift -- and I would be forced to shift every time it got steep, because 39 is not enough for me on 9-10% grades. What happens then? Let's say I go from the 40 to the 28T chain ring. Now I'm in a 25 gear, and that's so low I'm going to think I dropped the chain. I'll be looking for a gear lower than 38 inches, something in the mid to low 30s. Whatcha got? Upshift 4 and you get a 37, just about the same as where I was. Upshift 3 in back and I get a 33. I can live with a 33 -- but can I live with having to upshift 3 each time I cross over? I don't think so. That 54% difference in the chain rings means you can't ever just shift the front and keep on truckin', the jump is just too much. Unlike, for example, the 10-tooth difference between my 36 and 46T chain rings. There, if I'm feeling lazy or the terrain is steepening fast, I just shift the front and go from a 52 gear to a 40.5 -- something you can live with -- or I can upshift 1 and get a 46, next in sequence. What about up at the top end? 98 is a nice top end, in fact it's what I have now. But where's that 88.7 I have? Missing. Next gear is 2 teeth down, an 83. That's a hole I'd trip on often. For reference, here's my gearing with a 9 speed 13-30 cassette: 46 3624 95.5 74.8 49.8 88.7 69.4 46.3 82.8 64.8 43.2 73.1 57.2 38.1 65.4 51.2 34.1 59.1 46.3 30.9 51.8 40.5 27.0 46.0 36.0 24.0 41.4 32.4 21.6 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
Loads of good ideas, as usual on this list. Tom, a photo would be great; I like the home remedy! Several recommendations, then, for the medium or large Saddlesack (also a handsome bag). Swift Industries Mini Rolltop panniers are the other choice I have in mind: MUSA; waxed canvas option; two panniers for the price (+ options) of one Saddlesack. Really a question of preference, as both are attractive options. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote: Jim, I use a bungee ball on the bottom of my large SaddleSack. The cord loops through the leather on the bottom of the bag and around the top of the rack. It holds nice and secure. It's not exactly quick release, but it's quickER release... personally I find it more time-consuming (we're talking seconds here) but less irritating than the Ortlieb pannier system. I use my SaddleSack for commuting and take the bag off whenever I leave the bike, including for quick stops at the grocery store on the way home. It may be too much of a fiddle for some people though. Before I thought of the bungee ball I was using a John's Irish strap. That was also OK, but it's more difficult to feed the strap through the buckle than it is to engage a bungee ball, so the bungee ball was a step in the right direction. It was further improved when I started using a half-cut-off zip tie to feed the bungee cord through the rack. I'm not explaining this very well—be happy to post a photo if it helps. Tom Germany -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/DWJHrzq02O0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Liesl, Design away the top tube. If you get the twin transect right you have plenty of structural support. We have mixtes, love'em. Will On Friday, August 23, 2013 6:53:08 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: Hi friends, What a tutorial in gears! I'm learning quite a bit! A few comments on that topic from my perspective: I'm in the Edwin W camp. Simple shifting, a bail-out gear...that'll do for me. I, too, ride a single most of the time and I expect to keep my triple Saluki, and my 1x8 Friday is just swell. I live in Minneapolis and most of my riding is my 20 mile commute with only one big hill so this set-up gear-wise will be just fine for me. On the diagatube front, yes, William, they will tentaculate back to the whimsical seatstay/chainstay curls. It will be way cool. And of course, there will still be a top tube. And what are those spanning webs to attach a h2o cage? Gotta picture? On the delivery schedule: Riv is waiting for some tubes, then it will go to Mark Nobillete and he'll have a month/month and a half and then to Joe Bell and he'll also have a month/month and a half, so November would be pushing it. I want to fly out to Riv for the build and be a fly on the wall, so we'll see. On the color front: Khaki WWII green. Thinking about wood fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
I use a QR with the large saddlesack, but do not secure the bag to the rack.It just floats on top, never had any problems even riding off road this way. On Friday, August 23, 2013 4:52:52 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote: Another vote for saddlesacks. I have a large, in which I can stuff books, papers and a laptop for commuting between home, work and a course I'm teaching at the university. One question: Does anyone use the quick release with a large saddlesack? If so, do you have a good method for quick release of the sack from the rack? I'm thinking to just run a strap through it and the rack, but a bit of a fiddle to get on and off. Currently I have it zip tied to the rack. TIA Jim in Boulder On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:40:35 PM UTC-6, Tom Goodmann wrote: With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for ferrying books a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring. Each has a rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). Suggestions appreciated. --Tom in Miami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Announcing Rivendell Grin Fundo!
Awesome! I got a clearance bag at REI yesterday. Still pretty vague on the food details myself. Super burrito seems like a smart option. I figured I'd fill a couple steel bottles of beverage/water. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
I think we should have a poll based strictly on location. A vote is a vote, if somebody votes for both count both, obviously that person feels they can come no matter what and that fact is important also. When we settle on a location, we can concentrate on dates, rides lodging etc. Marc On Friday, August 23, 2013 1:01:16 AM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
I'd really like to go...to either location. But I wouldn't be able to commit until I see how my 2014 travel shakes out. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:01:16 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's fine, I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But looking at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily, Liesl, other chicas? Anyone? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Glacier, WA to Artist Point.
i havent cycled up on mt baker since i quit doing ski to sea years ago. no reason i cant put a bike on a county bus up to Glacier from Bellingham and do this ride myself thanks for a fresh new idea i will keep an eye out for your group on the road Bo Richardson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] New Proposal: Co-National Rivendell Jamborees
Since it is the 20th Anniversary of Rivendell why not celebrate with both locations since separate dates are already being proposed. Although the SF location has a growing lead very few pollsters (only 3 of 60) currently listed a willingness to attend either great state. Conflicts due to proximity or the dates tentatively selected could axe(no pun intended) 20 or more dedicated Rivendell riders and lovers of camping if this is whittled down to a single local. Therefore, I propose both get a nod to proceed, since the poll shows each with a minimum of 20 committed attenders and counting. Let the hosts or their designated poster start a new post or poll to select a date if those are not eched in stone yet. Then over the winter plans and updates can come together as fast or slow as each respective subgroup wants to put things out in hopes of increasing the number each Jamboree. Ryan hoping to pull a double 2014 Jamboree Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
