Re: [RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My wording came across too harsh--should have written something like "The 
title does say Fantasyland after all" rather than questioning whether you 
read the post title. So my apologies!


On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 7:52:20 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Yes, I read the thread title. I was just commenting on the Firefly price, 
> though that was off topic. Sorry.

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[RBW] Re: OT: best tablet or Kindle Fire alternative?

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I recently bought a Kindle Fire v5 from Amazon for $30.  It has the "blue 
shade" feature which allows reading at night with some of the light 
spectrum filtered out.  Also, I found a software hack to download that 
allows installing apps that are otherwise blocked (B&N Nook, etc...) 
without breaking the code.  It works great as a reader and all around 
tablet for apps and basic surfing, streaming and downloading movies (we 
have Prime.)  It was worthless as a reader when we were at the beach 
recently, but I expected such.

I also purchased a factory rebuilt Kindle Paperwhite (the backlit version) 
for $50 for my wife.  (I have the Nook equivalent)  These are much 
preferred as a reader, nice and compact with awesome capacity.


On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 6:11:04 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I have an old Kindle Fire, which someone onlist very kindly donated. The 
> battery is losing hold, and I'd like a slightly more generally useful 
> replacement, meaning that the device's principal use would be Kindle, but 
> I'd also like to be able to surf lightly and check and send email.
>
> The device would have to be faster and less "klunky" than the Fire.
>
> The device's screen must be more or less the size of the Fire's, and it 
> must weigh about the same -- I like reading in bed.
>
> I don't use it for deep surfing or actions that need privacy security.
>
> I'd buy used before new, but new cheap is acceptable.
>
> What are my options, and which is best? I use Apple laptop and phone, but 
> I am not tied to the marque.
>
> I'll give the Fire away free, shipping incl., if and when I get a 
> replacement device - it was shipped to me free and I thank the giver again.
>
> Thanks.
>
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[RBW] Re: OT: best tablet or Kindle Fire alternative?

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I almost forgot the bike content:  I have the RidewithGPS app installed on 
the Fire.

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 6:11:04 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I have an old Kindle Fire, which someone onlist very kindly donated. The 
> battery is losing hold, and I'd like a slightly more generally useful 
> replacement, meaning that the device's principal use would be Kindle, but 
> I'd also like to be able to surf lightly and check and send email.
>
> The device would have to be faster and less "klunky" than the Fire.
>
> The device's screen must be more or less the size of the Fire's, and it 
> must weigh about the same -- I like reading in bed.
>
> I don't use it for deep surfing or actions that need privacy security.
>
> I'd buy used before new, but new cheap is acceptable.
>
> What are my options, and which is best? I use Apple laptop and phone, but 
> I am not tied to the marque.
>
> I'll give the Fire away free, shipping incl., if and when I get a 
> replacement device - it was shipped to me free and I thank the giver again.
>
> Thanks.
>
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> **
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] An opportunistic Sunday

[René Sterental]

Nice report!

Not sure about that rim compatibility with tubeless, but I carry a few CO2
cannisters with my tubeless mountain bike. I use them in lieu of a
compressor when installing the tires at first and they can save you in a
situation like yours. Happened to me once going up a tall curb; my rear
tire burped and 5 minutes later I was riding again.

René

On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> Great weather and an unexpectedly long afternoon with my wife and daughter
> otherwise occupied conspired to grant me not one but two fun ride
> opportunities today!  When I thought I had a only a 3 hour window I decided
> I'd get the Bombadil with it's new tubeless SBH EL's out on some gravel and
> dirt to really try it out and then end with a bit of singletrack depending
> on how the tires/bike felt.  Out to the trailhead at Wakefield I went and
> set off with extra water and a small seat bag.  The ride was going great, I
> was easily maintaining a snappy pace as the trail alternated between
> hardpack, gravel of all sizes and pavement as it follows Accotink Creek
> north out of Wakefield and up towards Vienna.  I felt a couple slips in
> some loose stuff but was starting to feel pretty confident with the bike as
> I turned and headed back to Wakefield.  Literally the first bit of slightly
> technical terrain turned out to be my undoing as I eased the bike off the
> main trail to descend towards a creek crossing.  I never made it as my
> front tire burped off the rim spraying orange sealant and rapidly
> deflated.  No harm done, it was such an innocent maneuver I really don't
> know what happened... I'd been running just under 10 miles of mixed terrain
> at ~13-14mph up till then and I lost the tire when I turned sharply but at
> low speed and the next thing I knew it was deflated.  The section of trail
> I was on was just smooth creekside dirt packed down and it got all mixed
> with the sealant and made a huge mess.  My frame pump didn't have a prayer
> of re-inflating.  I did have a tube and levers but I decided that I could
> walk the ~1 mile back to the car in about the same period of time and avoid
> taking it all apart when i re-attempted tubeless the next time.
>
> I was running ~20psi front, ~30psi rear with a 215lbs rider and less than
> 10lbs of gear on the bike.  I wouldn't have expected to loose the bead at
> that psi but I am very new at the tubeless thing. The rims are the original
> Pacenti PL23's.  I had a spare wheelset already mounted w/ Nobby Nic's back
> at the car but I decided I'd used up my luck for the day and I was
> approaching my return time anyway so I packed it in.  I figured I'd use any
> extra time I had to try and re-seat the tire and finish swapping cockpit's
> out on my Saluki.  Once I got home I found out my wife would be
> significantly late returning and I had several more hours to kill... :)
>
> Step 1, fix the tire which I did with the help of my compressor, a new
> valve stem and some additional sealant though not before I blew the tire
> fully off the rim on one side over-inflating it... that was loud, and
> everything is coated in a fine sprinkling of sealant.  Good grief what a
> mess.  I paused for reflection (and got a beer) then re-engaged with much
> better success, as of a couple hours ago the tire was holding on the rim
> just fine.  We'll see how it lasts this time.  Step 2 the Saluki cockpit
> change out.  Some of you may remember that I got my Saluki fork replaced
> and the whole bike re-painted last May and put together what I intended to
> be a very solid, not-to-be-tinkered-with upright build around an albatross
> cockpit.  That build has worked splendidly for 15 months and I'm really
> only changing out the hbars now because I've seen a lot of great looking
> Homer's, Hilbornes and other fat tired road bikes with drop bars and I've
> been enjoying my Bob Jackson similarly equipped.  Long story short I
> slapped on some 46cm heat treated noodle bars. I was just wrapping up the
> bar change and doing a quick ride around the block when I found out I had a
> minimum of 1.5 hours additional time to kill - what luck!  I threw a bunch
> of bench tools into my saddlebag in case the just-installed parts needed
> attention and set out for a quick Arlington Loop (~18 miles from my house)
> in the late afternoon sun. It was a great ride and other than a slight
> seatpost raising the new cockpit worked out well and without adjustment.
>
> In summary, 10 miles mixed surface on the Bombadil w/ a tubeless tire
> failure and 18 miles bike path on the noodled-saluki makes me a happy
> Riv-rider.  I made an exhaustive photo-study of the Saluki before I changed
> out the bars, it had a solid growth of road grime as I have done virtually
> no maintenance or cleaning in the 15 months it's been back together, I'll
> need to do a re-shoot once I wrap the bars. Link to the photo's here!
> 
>
> Here are 

[RBW] Re: Dahon basket loaded

[JohnS]

Very impressive Patrick, both the load caring capacity and the quick on/off 
of the rack. Simple and effective, can't ask more. Thanks for the update.

JohnS


On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 3:36:11 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Forgot to mention that I've installed bolts backward through the dropout 
> holes and, for the stay bosses, drove in bolts and cut off the heads. Using 
> dome nuts and an allen driver, I can remove the unladen rack in 1 minute 
> and install it in 2 minutes.
>

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[RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"

[Scott McLain]

Hi Jay!
This is a bit of a dichotomy or oxy-moron.  I started riding a lot with a 
1999 Titanium LeMond Victiore.  Made by Trek in Wisconsin.  It was a 
beautiful titanium and rode really nice.  It had just the right amount of 
compliance and spring.  But it was a serious racing geometry with a super 
long top tube and me being a short torso person, was not a good fit.  So I 
am not disposed to hate on titanium.  However...

The only advantages I can think of for titanium over steel is weight and 
corrosion resistance.   I love it when i show my road biker buddies my AHH 
and they all lift it up to see how good it is.  Clearly I didn't choose an 
AHH because of its weight.   Corrosion resistance is easy to deal with.  It 
is primarily a problem when it is completely ignored.

There is also the question of the fork.  It couldn't be carbon and be a Riv 
Ti, so it would be steel or chromed steel?  I've never seen nor heard of a 
titanium fork.

Steel has a couple of material properties that are very unique.  There is a 
reason that springs are made out of steel.  It has an ultimate fatigue 
life, which means it can spring over and over again without becoming 
brittle.  It also has a yield stress lower than its ultimate stress which 
means it bends before it breaks.

There are more exotic steels than 4130 chrome-moly.  Maybe that would be 
more interesting.

Debbie Downer,

Scott


On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 9:51:02 AM UTC-6, Call Me Jay wrote:
>
> Who would build it? Hampsten Cycles? Discuss.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dahon basket loaded

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. I am very pleased not only with the real world capacity, but also
with the bikes stability (minus bags hanging from the bar), and the quick
on and off solution.

I bet that under such loads the rear rack would rather quickly break under
long distances -- I can't find any officially listed capacity, but I'll bet
it's less than 50 lbs.

I may go back and refashion the wooden braces and basket floor, having
rather gouged the originals up by trial and error assembly (process known
technically as 3D trial and error design). Anyone have a spare 2X4?

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:10 AM, JohnS  wrote:

> Very impressive Patrick, both the load caring capacity and the quick
> on/off of the rack. Simple and effective, can't ask more. Thanks for the
> update.
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 3:36:11 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Forgot to mention that I've installed bolts backward through the dropout
>> holes and, for the stay bosses, drove in bolts and cut off the heads. Using
>> dome nuts and an allen driver, I can remove the unladen rack in 1 minute
>> and install it in 2 minutes.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dahon basket loaded

[JohnS]

Have you considered aluminum or steel angle in place of the wood, now that 
you know what works?

JohnS


On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 10:24:30 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks. I am very pleased not only with the real world capacity, but also 
> with the bikes stability (minus bags hanging from the bar), and the quick 
> on and off solution.
>
> I bet that under such loads the rear rack would rather quickly break under 
> long distances -- I can't find any officially listed capacity, but I'll bet 
> it's less than 50 lbs.
>
> I may go back and refashion the wooden braces and basket floor, having 
> rather gouged the originals up by trial and error assembly (process known 
> technically as 3D trial and error design). Anyone have a spare 2X4?
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:10 AM, JohnS > 
> wrote:
>
>> Very impressive Patrick, both the load caring capacity and the quick 
>> on/off of the rack. Simple and effective, can't ask more. Thanks for the 
>> update.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 3:36:11 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Forgot to mention that I've installed bolts backward through the dropout 
>>> holes and, for the stay bosses, drove in bolts and cut off the heads. Using 
>>> dome nuts and an allen driver, I can remove the unladen rack in 1 minute 
>>> and install it in 2 minutes.
>>>
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> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
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>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dahon basket loaded

[Patrick Moore]

I did, but used wood simply because I had the scraps lying around to do the
job (even one of the "U" clamps holding the braces to the rack itself is
hand made from scrap). And having done so, I found the wood very easy to
work with using self tapping screws, and it's plenty strong for my uses,
since almost all the stress is in compression. I'd use metal angle braces
were I to build for longer distances.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:33 AM, JohnS  wrote:

> Have you considered aluminum or steel angle in place of the wood, now that
> you know what works?
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 10:24:30 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. I am very pleased not only with the real world capacity, but also
>> with the bikes stability (minus bags hanging from the bar), and the quick
>> on and off solution.
>>
>> I bet that under such loads the rear rack would rather quickly break
>> under long distances -- I can't find any officially listed capacity, but
>> I'll bet it's less than 50 lbs.
>>
>> I may go back and refashion the wooden braces and basket floor, having
>> rather gouged the originals up by trial and error assembly (process known
>> technically as 3D trial and error design). Anyone have a spare 2X4?
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:10 AM, JohnS  wrote:
>>
>>> Very impressive Patrick, both the load caring capacity and the quick
>>> on/off of the rack. Simple and effective, can't ask more. Thanks for the
>>> update.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 3:36:11 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Forgot to mention that I've installed bolts backward through the
 dropout holes and, for the stay bosses, drove in bolts and cut off the
 heads. Using dome nuts and an allen driver, I can remove the unladen rack
 in 1 minute and install it in 2 minutes.

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>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>
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>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>
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>>
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Re: [RBW] An opportunistic Sunday

[Tony DeFilippo]

Thanks Rene,

I'm glad you mentioned co2, I had thought about it as I was walking my bike 
out and then it slipped my mind.  Good to hear that is a feasible trailside 
(or shop) option.  As far as PL23 tubeless compatibility I've read that 
they were designed with that in mind (*https://groups.google.com/*
forum/m/#!topic/650b/8xC7RjxiVOM 
) but nothing 
more authoritative than the thread.  They do have a pretty pronounced 
'hook', though my own experience yesterday would suggest not enough!

Tony


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[RBW] FS: Campagnolo Veloce 10-Speed Ergopower Brifters

[Philip Kim]

Bought these for a Shimergo set up, but running bars too narrow with a 
bigger bag, so gonna go downtube or bar ends. In great condition, still 
might have the manual laying around as well. $100 shipped. 

Also looking for downtube shifters (prefer Dura Ace 9 speed, since I 
believe they can friction shift), or 8 speed shimano bar ends.









Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] RBW Garage Sale scores

[RichS]

Manny thanks for your comprehensive visual report! Looks like a great time and 
a successful day for Riv and all the buyers!

Richard (sadly three time zones away)

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[RBW] Re: WTT: Olive SaddleSack Large for Grey, black or Tan

[WETH]

Bump!
Still looking/hoping for a trade.
Thanks,
Erl

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:33:32 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
> Clayton,
> Thanks for reminding me of your bag for sale.  I would rather trade but 
> buying/selling is always an option. I'll ponder.
> Thanks,
> Erl

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[RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"

[masmojo]

I've wondered the same thing, I currently think your best bet for a ti Riv. 
Would be Spectrum Cycles, but they would also likely be pretty expensive. For 
me personally, I think I'd go to Carver, they do custom titanium frames for 
under 2 grand! The frames are made overseas to a customer plan.

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[RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis Shimmy ???

[masmojo]

Having a bunch of spacers is probably contributing to the headset coming loose 
issue, but it should not be causing a shimmy. I do agree that sometimes over 
tighting fan be worse than too loose; too tight & thebearing races can get 
dimpled, once this happens, you will basically have indexed steering and riding 
no hands will be, difficult if not impossible.

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[RBW] ISO: Cheap crankset

[bo richardson]

I have the entire build from a rb2 whose frame was bent.
The sugino cranks and chain and derail lure are very clean
Have wheels and tires and cluster

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[RBW] Re: Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Surlyprof]

I would tend to agree with the trailer idea as well.  We used a Chariot for 
a while and it worked quite well and several friends use the BOB Yak.  The 
BOBs are nice because they easily hang in a garage when not in use but it 
is expensive.  We bought the Chariot at one of the REI garage sales for a 
fraction of the retail price (maybe $75?).  Later, we sold it on craigslist 
for a profit (Not profiteers... we honestly forgot how much we had paid for 
it.)  Worked for kids, dogs and errands.  The nice thing about the trailer 
is that it doesn't effect your pleasure riding.  There is often a simple 
attachment piece that attaches to the axle or seatpost depending on the 
brand.  It was very easy to take on and off.  I'd do a little research to 
identify a few trailers that would work and then surf your local 
classifieds, craigslist or online sales.  A quick search of the REI Garage 
(previously Outlet) showed no trailers but they might in the future 
(https://www.rei.com/rei-garage/search?q=trailer&pagesize=84&queryRule=outlet-only&ir=q%3Atrailer&outlet=true).

Good luck with the school year.
John (also back in the classroom after a pleasant summer)

On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 2:27:25 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> School begins on Monday, and we have before us a number of challenges. The 
> school is in its second year, and it has exploded in population. There was 
> nearly no parking to begin with, and with the second school in the 
> neighborhood also convening in the morning and with the canyon's whole 
> workforce trying to get out for their 25 minute commute with but one single 
> road that we all must share, biking is a NO-BRAINER. But nearly no one, 
> excepting us, has done it. The school is 2 miles from my door (too far to 
> walk), all downhill to school, and all uphill on the way home. The hill is 
> so steep that a child really needs brakes of good quality for the downhill, 
> and a bike that isn't too heavy (these are just kids, remember) and has 
> GEARS for the way uphill. Also ideal would be a bottle cage for water since 
> we live in Vegas and a rack. But a rack is probably asking too much. 
>
> I mentor the junior high girls from church (I heart teenagers!), and one 
> of my little favorites, L,  will attend our school. She and her little 
> sister plan to use their electric scooter and bike to join us. She babysits 
> a boy who will ride with us on his own bike. Another family I'm acquainted 
> with asked if their 5th grader could join us. As I was leaving campus after 
> the meet and greet today, I heard L yell, "Leah! We have some more coming!" 
>
> "More what?" I asked.
> "More girls!" she called.
> "Riding bikes?" I asked, incredulous.
> "Yes, my mom's getting all their information, I'll tell you later!"
>
> So, there you have it. Leah's Bicycle Bus is born! 
>
> You might imagine I have some anxiety about the logistics. Even more about 
> the liability. I have a plan worked out, and I'll tweak it as need arises. 
>
> Now, for the question.
>
> My only-5th grade-son has been reclassified as a middle-schooler. He must 
> carry all his books/folders/etc in his backpack. They tell me, "Oh, and 
> here's his Chromebook for the year. It goes home with him every night." 
>
> SERIOUSLY? 
>
> My Betty Foy has a Nitto Big Front Rack with the biggest Wald they make. 
> The back has a lighter duty rack that was acting as a support for my medium 
> Saddlesack. This is not going to carry both sons' bags and lunches now that 
> my "middle-schooler" must schlep around everything he owns. Also, what 
> happens if one of the neighborhood kids needs me to haul something?  I 
> called Riv and Will listened and we both thought I would need the Big Back 
> Rack, so I ordered it. Now, I wonder if I should continue to use my medium 
> saddlesack or if I should order the large. Or maybe just add 
> Back-a-Bike-bags, which are out of stock for now. Will suggested: 
> http://www.carsickdesigns.com/products/large-pannier-set but I don't love 
> them very much.
>
> Someone chime in and tell me what's the best way to carry all this weight.
>
> Thanks once again! L
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Gevenalle GX2 shifters - shimano dyna-sys compatible, 10speed

[Belopsky]

Front is friction, rear can be indexed 10 speed or friction. Not a single 
scratch.

more info here: http://gevenalle.com/product/gx/

MSRP is $219.

$160 shipped.

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[adam leibow]

thanks! they ride sharp too! i love them, but they max out this frame, and 
i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even fit when paired with a wider 
rim. they are not as supple as a compass but seem to offer a little more 
resilience in return. 

On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Adam what do you think of the WTB 47's on your AHH?  They look sharp!
>
> Good luck with the sale, at that price it shouldn't last long.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Gevenalle GX2 shifters - shimano dyna-sys compatible, 10speed

[Philip Kim]

dang wish these came up earlier. I just had my LBS order a pair!


On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 12:40:18 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Front is friction, rear can be indexed 10 speed or friction. Not a single 
> scratch.
>
> more info here: http://gevenalle.com/product/gx/
>
> MSRP is $219.
>
> $160 shipped.
>

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[adam leibow]

I forgot to mention that this sale is for frame/fork/headset only, with the 
option of buying the brakes, too. Some people on the 650b group were upset 
that i didn't put "frameset" anywhere in the listing and thought that the 
complete bike was for sale. 

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Scott Loveless]

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> When your school provides neither desks nor lockers, you have to schlep all
> your possessions, nomad-like uphill, 2 miles to your doorstep.

Well, I was going to suggest purchasing copies of his most-used text
books so he doesn't have to carry them home every night, but the no
locker thing kinda kills that idea.

Our 8th grader tends to carry a lot every day.  Backpack and field
hockey gear at the moment.  The logistics of after school practice
means she has to lug that stuff home every day.  We settled on a
grocery pannier two years ago.  Hockey gear goes in the pannier,
backpack on her back.  When it's not hockey season, the backpack goes
in the pannier.


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[RBW] Re: An opportunistic Sunday

[Ryan Thompson]

Tony,

Great write-up and sorry to hear about your tubeless trouble.  The only 
bike I have currently running tubeless is my mountain bike. It's equipped 
with a set of Easton wheels with a UST bead profile paired with WTB tires 
that are UST compatible.  However, it still makes me nervous as I not very 
diligent at checking the sealant every couple of months, cleaning, then 
reapplying.  

I also share your exciment when my wife grants me the opportunity for 
riding on the weekend while she watches the kids.  Since our youngest is 
now 17 months we're able to do a lot of family rides, but lately I've it's 
been too hot for us to ride the Arlington loop.  So on Sunday I took the 
opportunity to ride my mountain bike at Fountainhead Park, and that was a 
workout.

Ryan
Arlington, VA

 
On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 11:35:27 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

> Great weather and an unexpectedly long afternoon with my wife and daughter 
> otherwise occupied conspired to grant me not one but two fun ride 
> opportunities today!  When I thought I had a only a 3 hour window I decided 
> I'd get the Bombadil with it's new tubeless SBH EL's out on some gravel and 
> dirt to really try it out and then end with a bit of singletrack depending 
> on how the tires/bike felt.  Out to the trailhead at Wakefield I went and 
> set off with extra water and a small seat bag.  The ride was going great, I 
> was easily maintaining a snappy pace as the trail alternated between 
> hardpack, gravel of all sizes and pavement as it follows Accotink Creek 
> north out of Wakefield and up towards Vienna.  I felt a couple slips in 
> some loose stuff but was starting to feel pretty confident with the bike as 
> I turned and headed back to Wakefield.  Literally the first bit of slightly 
> technical terrain turned out to be my undoing as I eased the bike off the 
> main trail to descend towards a creek crossing.  I never made it as my 
> front tire burped off the rim spraying orange sealant and rapidly deflated. 
>  No harm done, it was such an innocent maneuver I really don't know what 
> happened... I'd been running just under 10 miles of mixed terrain at 
> ~13-14mph up till then and I lost the tire when I turned sharply but at low 
> speed and the next thing I knew it was deflated.  The section of trail I 
> was on was just smooth creekside dirt packed down and it got all mixed with 
> the sealant and made a huge mess.  My frame pump didn't have a prayer of 
> re-inflating.  I did have a tube and levers but I decided that I could walk 
> the ~1 mile back to the car in about the same period of time and avoid 
> taking it all apart when i re-attempted tubeless the next time.
>
> I was running ~20psi front, ~30psi rear with a 215lbs rider and less than 
> 10lbs of gear on the bike.  I wouldn't have expected to loose the bead at 
> that psi but I am very new at the tubeless thing. The rims are the original 
> Pacenti PL23's.  I had a spare wheelset already mounted w/ Nobby Nic's back 
> at the car but I decided I'd used up my luck for the day and I was 
> approaching my return time anyway so I packed it in.  I figured I'd use any 
> extra time I had to try and re-seat the tire and finish swapping cockpit's 
> out on my Saluki.  Once I got home I found out my wife would be 
> significantly late returning and I had several more hours to kill... :)
>
> Step 1, fix the tire which I did with the help of my compressor, a new 
> valve stem and some additional sealant though not before I blew the tire 
> fully off the rim on one side over-inflating it... that was loud, and 
> everything is coated in a fine sprinkling of sealant.  Good grief what a 
> mess.  I paused for reflection (and got a beer) then re-engaged with much 
> better success, as of a couple hours ago the tire was holding on the rim 
> just fine.  We'll see how it lasts this time.  Step 2 the Saluki cockpit 
> change out.  Some of you may remember that I got my Saluki fork replaced 
> and the whole bike re-painted last May and put together what I intended to 
> be a very solid, not-to-be-tinkered-with upright build around an albatross 
> cockpit.  That build has worked splendidly for 15 months and I'm really 
> only changing out the hbars now because I've seen a lot of great looking 
> Homer's, Hilbornes and other fat tired road bikes with drop bars and I've 
> been enjoying my Bob Jackson similarly equipped.  Long story short I 
> slapped on some 46cm heat treated noodle bars. I was just wrapping up the 
> bar change and doing a quick ride around the block when I found out I had a 
> minimum of 1.5 hours additional time to kill - what luck!  I threw a bunch 
> of bench tools into my saddlebag in case the just-installed parts needed 
> attention and set out for a quick Arlington Loop (~18 miles from my house) 
> in the late afternoon sun. It was a great ride and other than a slight 
> seatpost raising the new cockpit worked out well and without adjustment.
>
> In summary, 10 miles

[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[Joe Bernard]

Anybody who thinks a complete AHH is selling for 950 needs to have their head 
examined. 

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[Ryan Fleming]

Not to be  pedantic, herebut I take it you mean flat resistance since 
suppleness and resilience are more or less the same thing in this context

Anyway, price on the frame with or without the Pauls will make somebody 
happy, I suspect 

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-5, adam leibow wrote:
>
> thanks! they ride sharp too! i love them, but they max out this frame, and 
> i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even fit when paired with a wider 
> rim. they are not as supple as a compass but seem to offer a little more 
> resilience in return. 
>
> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>> Adam what do you think of the WTB 47's on your AHH?  They look sharp!
>>
>> Good luck with the sale, at that price it shouldn't last long.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[Scott McLain]

I think this is on topic enough... Someone let me know if I need to start a 
new thread.

Is it best to sell an AHH or Atlantis as a complete bike or as a frameset? 
 I am considering a similar transaction.

Scott


On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Anybody who thinks a complete AHH is selling for 950 needs to have their 
> head examined. 

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[Jeffrey B]

http://lascruces.craigslist.org/bik/5691257878.html

Here is a complete for $975 - not mine and no affiliation.

Jeff
Arlington, VA

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Ryan Fleming]

Good on ya Leah

Yes, you are doing a great thing with this, but you should not be the 
packhorse for  all the other kids and I think  their parents definitely 
should pony up if their kids' bikes are inadequate for the task at hand. 
It's too bad there are no lockers and the kids do have to schlep things 
back and forth...I'll be interested to see how things work out

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 1:53:09 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
>
>
> Over the weekend I made a sketchy plan and carried it out. I ordered the 
> Nitto Big Rear Rack from Rivendell HQ on Friday, and it will arrive 
> Tuesday. I then contacted John at Rivelo, and he had the Backabike bags in 
> tan. I don’t think those bags are too pricey, so I ordered a pair and if 
> they don’t work out, you’ll see them for sale on the List, I suppose. 
> Anyway, I’ve always liked these and I’m excited to try them out. They’ll be 
> here sometime this week, and they can’t come soon enough. 
>
> Today was our first day on what I call Leah’s Bicycle Bus - Ding Ding! 
> (See photos of my kids only, below.)
>
> Right on time, my boys and I were out the door. We pedaled around the 
> corner and met the first kid, who was waiting with her mom. She has a 
> Raleigh mountain bike with a questionable rear rack. She was trying to use 
> a rubber bungee with hook to attach a canvas briefcase-like thing. She 
> planned to carry the backpack on her back. She ended up having all manner 
> of trouble dismounting the bike at stops because she has to get her leg 
> over her rear load, which wasn’t terribly tall. By the time we arrived at 
> school, her back hurt. And that was the ride DOWN, folks.
>
> After she joined us, we met a pair of sisters a quarter mile down the 
> route. The older sister had her mom’s clunky (but very cute) beach cruiser 
> and little sis had her Target bike, crooked seat and all. They joined us 
> and almost immediately the rear tire on the Target bike went FLAT. Like, as 
> a pancake. Like a joke when my mother-in-law tells it. Like FLAT. The 
> internal struggle ensued - do I make us all tardy and try to do something 
> about this? Do I call her mom and wait for her to come? Do I dare leave her 
> to wait and take everyone else? After about 30 seconds of deliberation I 
> said, “It’s all downhill, G. You’re going to have to keep riding it.” She 
> brushed away the tears and we made it, though heaven knows we broke no time 
> records! We racked the bikes and I said, “You deserve an award! You’re the 
> only person ever to do that commute on one tire!” She laughed.
>
> So, you might imagine I’m eager to receive my packages this week. I will 
> carry the odd thing or two for these kids, but I’m not letting their 
> parents completely off the hook. I’m not going to pack mule it for 5-7 
> kids. I figure if I’m taking this responsibility off the parents' backs, 
> they could part with a little money to outfit these kids with gear and 
> bikes that will make the trip possible. And maybe a little pleasant.
>
> It’s going to be a learning curve. These kids need to know not to cross 
> intersections until they know a driver has made eye contact with us, they 
> need to stay closer together - they were strung out over a block, I bet - 
> and they need to figure out how to carry their stuff. We were SLOW today, 
> and that was even before the flat tire. Excepting mine, these kids aren’t 
> cyclers. They didn’t grow up riding bikes, but rather riding in the back 
> seats of SUVs and family sedans. Flat-Tire-G is a 5th grader but a novice 
> at cycling. The boys and I used to just dance up that hill - load and all, 
> always racing home to see if we could beat yesterday’s time. I’ll have to 
> put that away and settle in to spending a little extra time with these new 
> kids.
>
> Say a prayer for me this afternoon! It will be their first ride home and 
> it’s going to be uphill and over 100 degrees! Ha!
>
> Ding ding,
> Leah
> [image: image1.JPG]
> [image: image2.JPG]
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Scott Loveless  > wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Leah Peterson  > wrote:
>
> When your school provides neither desks nor lockers, you have to schlep all
> your possessions, nomad-like uphill, 2 miles to your doorstep.
>
>
> Well, I was going to suggest purchasing copies of his most-used text
> books so he doesn't have to carry them home every night, but the no
> locker thing kinda kills that idea.
>
> Our 8th grader tends to carry a lot every day.  Backpack and field
> hockey gear at the moment.  The logistics of after school practice
> means she has to lug that stuff home every day.  We settled on a
> grocery pannier two years ago.  Hockey gear goes in the pannier,
> backpack on her back.  When it's not hockey season, the backpack goes
> in the pannier.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Gevenalle GX2 shifters - shimano dyna-sys compatible, 10speed

[Bob Lovejoy]

E-mail incoming... 

Bob L.
Denver

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 10:40:18 AM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Front is friction, rear can be indexed 10 speed or friction. Not a single 
> scratch.
>
> more info here: http://gevenalle.com/product/gx/
>
> MSRP is $219.
>
> $160 shipped.
>

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[Bill Lindsay]

Scott asked if it is best to sell a used A Homer Hilsen or a used Atlantis 
as a complete or as a frameset.  

As with most things, it depends.  What do you mean by "best"?  Do you mean 
"fewest headaches"?  Do you mean "least possible effort"?  Do you mean 
"fewest days on the market"?  Do you mean "most possible dollars in your 
pocket"?  

Depending on what you mean, I'd usually say it's best to sell a frameset. 
 Most people want just a frameset, because there is something about your 
build that they don't like.  Most buyers don't have the energy to buy your 
complete and then part it out themselves, even though some completes are so 
darn cheap you could buy it and part it out and end up with a free 
frameset.  

The absolute worst thing to sell used is wheels for some reason.  A great 
handbuilt wheelset, with great parts, can easily run $1000, but generally 
you'd be lucky to get 1/3 of retail for a used wheelset.  It's crazy.  So 
if you have a perfectly good wheelset on your complete(s) and it's a size 
that you can use again, absolutely keep those.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 11:59:14 AM UTC-7, Scott McLain wrote:
>
> I think this is on topic enough... Someone let me know if I need to start 
> a new thread.
>
> Is it best to sell an AHH or Atlantis as a complete bike or as a frameset? 
>  I am considering a similar transaction.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Anybody who thinks a complete AHH is selling for 950 needs to have their 
>> head examined. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Saddlebag Grip; M324 pedals; Phil BB; Reverse Levers; Silver Standard Reach Brakes

[Patrick Moore]

All gone except for the Brahma bar ans 135 mm T Bone* stem, which is free
for:

1. Postage

2. Patience, while you wait until I get around to dis-installing it,
packing it, and shipping it.

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[Joe Bernard]

Well ok then. Although a complete AHH with Paul centerpulls for 975 tells me I 
better make sure it's legit before handing cash over...

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Re: [RBW] Things that fit, commuter edition

['Rick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It's a large.  

Rick.

On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 3:02:02 PM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:

> Rick,
> Thanks for posting.  That's interesting, especially as I'm getting a large 
> sackville for my AHH.  I'm guessing that first picture is the Pack-It 
> Garment Folder.  Is that a medium or large?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:31 AM, 'Rick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> A commuter solution for those that have these relevant items, first is a 
>> garment folder that is fairly popular for travel people, keeps things less 
>> wrinkled than they might otherwise get, and it fits nicely in this other 
>> item, Large Sackville.
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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Shoji Takahashi]

Inspiring, Leah. Kinks will work themselves out after a few runs, and I 
hope others will join your lead. 

Tailwinds,
shoji



On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote:
>
>
> Over the weekend I made a sketchy plan and carried it out. I ordered the 
> Nitto Big Rear Rack from Rivendell HQ on Friday, and it will arrive 
> Tuesday. I then contacted John at Rivelo, and he had the Backabike bags in 
> tan. I don’t think those bags are too pricey, so I ordered a pair and if 
> they don’t work out, you’ll see them for sale on the List, I suppose. 
> Anyway, I’ve always liked these and I’m excited to try them out. They’ll be 
> here sometime this week, and they can’t come soon enough. 
>
> Today was our first day on what I call Leah’s Bicycle Bus - Ding Ding! 
> (See photos of my kids only, below.)
>
> Right on time, my boys and I were out the door. We pedaled around the 
> corner and met the first kid, who was waiting with her mom. She has a 
> Raleigh mountain bike with a questionable rear rack. She was trying to use 
> a rubber bungee with hook to attach a canvas briefcase-like thing. She 
> planned to carry the backpack on her back. She ended up having all manner 
> of trouble dismounting the bike at stops because she has to get her leg 
> over her rear load, which wasn’t terribly tall. By the time we arrived at 
> school, her back hurt. And that was the ride DOWN, folks.
>
> After she joined us, we met a pair of sisters a quarter mile down the 
> route. The older sister had her mom’s clunky (but very cute) beach cruiser 
> and little sis had her Target bike, crooked seat and all. They joined us 
> and almost immediately the rear tire on the Target bike went FLAT. Like, as 
> a pancake. Like a joke when my mother-in-law tells it. Like FLAT. The 
> internal struggle ensued - do I make us all tardy and try to do something 
> about this? Do I call her mom and wait for her to come? Do I dare leave her 
> to wait and take everyone else? After about 30 seconds of deliberation I 
> said, “It’s all downhill, G. You’re going to have to keep riding it.” She 
> brushed away the tears and we made it, though heaven knows we broke no time 
> records! We racked the bikes and I said, “You deserve an award! You’re the 
> only person ever to do that commute on one tire!” She laughed.
>
> So, you might imagine I’m eager to receive my packages this week. I will 
> carry the odd thing or two for these kids, but I’m not letting their 
> parents completely off the hook. I’m not going to pack mule it for 5-7 
> kids. I figure if I’m taking this responsibility off the parents' backs, 
> they could part with a little money to outfit these kids with gear and 
> bikes that will make the trip possible. And maybe a little pleasant.
>
> It’s going to be a learning curve. These kids need to know not to cross 
> intersections until they know a driver has made eye contact with us, they 
> need to stay closer together - they were strung out over a block, I bet - 
> and they need to figure out how to carry their stuff. We were SLOW today, 
> and that was even before the flat tire. Excepting mine, these kids aren’t 
> cyclers. They didn’t grow up riding bikes, but rather riding in the back 
> seats of SUVs and family sedans. Flat-Tire-G is a 5th grader but a novice 
> at cycling. The boys and I used to just dance up that hill - load and all, 
> always racing home to see if we could beat yesterday’s time. I’ll have to 
> put that away and settle in to spending a little extra time with these new 
> kids.
>
> Say a prayer for me this afternoon! It will be their first ride home and 
> it’s going to be uphill and over 100 degrees! Ha!
>
> Ding ding,
> Leah
> [image: image1.JPG]
> [image: image2.JPG]
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Scott Loveless  > wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Leah Peterson  > wrote:
>
> When your school provides neither desks nor lockers, you have to schlep all
> your possessions, nomad-like uphill, 2 miles to your doorstep.
>
>
> Well, I was going to suggest purchasing copies of his most-used text
> books so he doesn't have to carry them home every night, but the no
> locker thing kinda kills that idea.
>
> Our 8th grader tends to carry a lot every day.  Backpack and field
> hockey gear at the moment.  The logistics of after school practice
> means she has to lug that stuff home every day.  We settled on a
> grocery pannier two years ago.  Hockey gear goes in the pannier,
> backpack on her back.  When it's not hockey season, the backpack goes
> in the pannier.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[Scott McLain]

Thanks Bill!
That was exactly my question. It seems like it would be much easier to ship 
a frame also.  By best, I meant best $ return, least waste $ and risk on 
shipping, fewest headaches.  I agree with your summary to sell as a 
frameset.

Scott


On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 1:28:57 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Scott asked if it is best to sell a used A Homer Hilsen or a used Atlantis 
> as a complete or as a frameset.  
>
> As with most things, it depends.  What do you mean by "best"?  Do you mean 
> "fewest headaches"?  Do you mean "least possible effort"?  Do you mean 
> "fewest days on the market"?  Do you mean "most possible dollars in your 
> pocket"?  
>
> Depending on what you mean, I'd usually say it's best to sell a frameset. 
>  Most people want just a frameset, because there is something about your 
> build that they don't like.  Most buyers don't have the energy to buy your 
> complete and then part it out themselves, even though some completes are so 
> darn cheap you could buy it and part it out and end up with a free 
> frameset.  
>
> The absolute worst thing to sell used is wheels for some reason.  A great 
> handbuilt wheelset, with great parts, can easily run $1000, but generally 
> you'd be lucky to get 1/3 of retail for a used wheelset.  It's crazy.  So 
> if you have a perfectly good wheelset on your complete(s) and it's a size 
> that you can use again, absolutely keep those.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 11:59:14 AM UTC-7, Scott McLain wrote:
>>
>> I think this is on topic enough... Someone let me know if I need to start 
>> a new thread.
>>
>> Is it best to sell an AHH or Atlantis as a complete bike or as a 
>> frameset?  I am considering a similar transaction.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Anybody who thinks a complete AHH is selling for 950 needs to have their 
>>> head examined. 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Surlyprof]

You could always go the Butchers and Bicycles route.  Coolest cargo ride 
ever!  So fun to ride.  http://www.butchersandbicycles.com/  They even have 
electric drivetrain options.

John



On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 12:52:58 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Children's habit of carrying all of their worldly possessions in their 
> backpacks all of the time is very strange; my daughter does this (tho' she 
> refuses to let me carry her pack, or to shove it into a pannier). But it 
> seems indelible. Why is this?
>
> I recall HS: I'd carry 30 lb in a canvas WW 2 backpack carrier of some 
> sort -- it had no top flap -- but I'd get my mother to carry it home in the 
> car, along with my sister, while I took the long way home on my bike.
>
> As to Leah's carriage, I'd recommend a heavier duty rear rack (Tubus, from 
> their 12 oz models up are well able to carry 44 lb and more) with 2 big, 
> well made, panniers, like the Ortlieb Packer Pluses. With capacity for 40 
> lb in back and -- what can your present front setup carry? -- you should 
> have the carriage space you need.
>
> Me, I've long wanted (seriously) one of these. No pissant Wald Newsboy or 
> Porteur rack for me! Room for family and supplies.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 6:59 AM, Garth > 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>  Yes, since when do kids have their parents carry their stuff for 
>> them to school ?  That's all part of "growing up" , is it not , taking home 
>> what you *actually* need to and leaving at school what does not need to 
>> go .
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[dougP]

Hope the afternoon run goes well, but you still have that bike with the 
flat tire waiting for you.  I think each family needs to be responsible for 
their student's load carrying as well as bike condition.  Just digging 
their old bike out of the cobwebs & pumping up the tires isn't enough.  If 
you're on the street with this group, the bikes need to have been serviced 
(cables? brakes? chains?) and the kids need to have some idea of what their 
supposed to be doing.  With a wide disparity in ages will come a wide 
variety of average speeds, esp on that uphill run home in the heat.  Maybe 
a Saturday get together with all the families?  A couple of practice runs?  
All things considered it's a great idea and you're doing a good thing by 
shepherding these kids to school.  

dougP

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:16:46 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> I would tend to agree with the trailer idea as well.  We used a Chariot 
> for a while and it worked quite well and several friends use the BOB Yak. 
>  The BOBs are nice because they easily hang in a garage when not in use but 
> it is expensive.  We bought the Chariot at one of the REI garage sales for 
> a fraction of the retail price (maybe $75?).  Later, we sold it on 
> craigslist for a profit (Not profiteers... we honestly forgot how much we 
> had paid for it.)  Worked for kids, dogs and errands.  The nice thing about 
> the trailer is that it doesn't effect your pleasure riding.  There is often 
> a simple attachment piece that attaches to the axle or seatpost depending 
> on the brand.  It was very easy to take on and off.  I'd do a little 
> research to identify a few trailers that would work and then surf your 
> local classifieds, craigslist or online sales.  A quick search of the REI 
> Garage (previously Outlet) showed no trailers but they might in the future (
> https://www.rei.com/rei-garage/search?q=trailer&pagesize=84&queryRule=outlet-only&ir=q%3Atrailer&outlet=true
> ).
>
> Good luck with the school year.
> John (also back in the classroom after a pleasant summer)
>
> On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 2:27:25 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> School begins on Monday, and we have before us a number of challenges. 
>> The school is in its second year, and it has exploded in population. There 
>> was nearly no parking to begin with, and with the second school in the 
>> neighborhood also convening in the morning and with the canyon's whole 
>> workforce trying to get out for their 25 minute commute with but one single 
>> road that we all must share, biking is a NO-BRAINER. But nearly no one, 
>> excepting us, has done it. The school is 2 miles from my door (too far to 
>> walk), all downhill to school, and all uphill on the way home. The hill is 
>> so steep that a child really needs brakes of good quality for the downhill, 
>> and a bike that isn't too heavy (these are just kids, remember) and has 
>> GEARS for the way uphill. Also ideal would be a bottle cage for water since 
>> we live in Vegas and a rack. But a rack is probably asking too much. 
>>
>> I mentor the junior high girls from church (I heart teenagers!), and one 
>> of my little favorites, L,  will attend our school. She and her little 
>> sister plan to use their electric scooter and bike to join us. She babysits 
>> a boy who will ride with us on his own bike. Another family I'm acquainted 
>> with asked if their 5th grader could join us. As I was leaving campus after 
>> the meet and greet today, I heard L yell, "Leah! We have some more coming!" 
>>
>> "More what?" I asked.
>> "More girls!" she called.
>> "Riding bikes?" I asked, incredulous.
>> "Yes, my mom's getting all their information, I'll tell you later!"
>>
>> So, there you have it. Leah's Bicycle Bus is born! 
>>
>> You might imagine I have some anxiety about the logistics. Even more 
>> about the liability. I have a plan worked out, and I'll tweak it as need 
>> arises. 
>>
>> Now, for the question.
>>
>> My only-5th grade-son has been reclassified as a middle-schooler. He must 
>> carry all his books/folders/etc in his backpack. They tell me, "Oh, and 
>> here's his Chromebook for the year. It goes home with him every night." 
>>
>> SERIOUSLY? 
>>
>> My Betty Foy has a Nitto Big Front Rack with the biggest Wald they make. 
>> The back has a lighter duty rack that was acting as a support for my medium 
>> Saddlesack. This is not going to carry both sons' bags and lunches now that 
>> my "middle-schooler" must schlep around everything he owns. Also, what 
>> happens if one of the neighborhood kids needs me to haul something?  I 
>> called Riv and Will listened and we both thought I would need the Big Back 
>> Rack, so I ordered it. Now, I wonder if I should continue to use my medium 
>> saddlesack or if I should order the large. Or maybe just add 
>> Back-a-Bike-bags, which are out of stock for now. Will suggested: 
>> http://www.carsickdesigns.com/products/large-pannier-set but I don't 
>> love them very much.
>>
>> Someon

[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[dougP]

Seems like this guy has really limited himself by spec'ing "local only" in 
Las Cruces, NM.  Maybe a factor in the price.  The large size further 
limits his market.  

dougP

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 12:38:46 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Well ok then. Although a complete AHH with Paul centerpulls for 975 tells 
> me I better make sure it's legit before handing cash over...

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[RBW] Aussie Wool 1/4 Zip size Large

[Surlyprof]

So, I went to the Riv garage sale, had a great time and scored some great 
deals.  One was a black, Aussie Wool long sleeve 1/4 Zip shirt.  It is 
really nice but a tad snug for my preference.  As I later read on Riv's 
site,


*"FIT: On the snug side. They stretch a lot, but if you wear a large 
T-shirt or dress shirt and you want one of these to cut you a little slack, 
buy up a size, or even two. Machine washable and dryable, but we always 
suggest air-drying.I/Grant wear a large T-shirt and go for XL or even 2X in 
these. I like loose clothes."*

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/aw12.htm

Like Grant, I also prefer to wear looser clothing.  I would happily pass on 
my savings and sell it for $25 shipped.  I've never worn it except to try 
it on when I got home.  If you wear a medium t-shirt or wear a large and 
like wearing more form-fitting clothing, this is a great deal.  It is 
really nice but I don't think I'll wear it.  Please keep in mind that it is 
a 1/4 zip version, NOT the crewneck that Riv sells.  I'm guessing it was a 
sample they received from the vendor.

PM me if you're interested.
John

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[Bill Lindsay]

Maybe, but the marketing GENIUS of his listing title:  "A Big Bike"  

Bow down!  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 1:00:29 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>
> Seems like this guy has really limited himself by spec'ing "local only" in 
> Las Cruces, NM.  Maybe a factor in the price.  The large size further 
> limits his market.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 12:38:46 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Well ok then. Although a complete AHH with Paul centerpulls for 975 tells 
>> me I better make sure it's legit before handing cash over...
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Black, Aussie Wool 1/4 Zip Long Sleeve Shirt

[Surlyprof]

So, I went to the Riv garage sale, had a great time and scored some great 
deals.  One was a black, Aussie Wool long sleeve 1/4 Zip shirt.  It is 
really nice but a tad snug for my preference.  As I later read on Riv's 
site,


*"FIT: On the snug side. They stretch a lot, but if you wear a large 
T-shirt or dress shirt and you want one of these to cut you a little slack, 
buy up a size, or even two. Machine washable and dryable, but we always 
suggest air-drying.I/Grant wear a large T-shirt and go for XL or even 2X in 
these. I like loose clothes."*

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/aw12.htm

Like Grant, I also prefer to wear looser clothing.  I would happily pass on 
my savings and sell it for $25 shipped.  I've never worn it except to try 
it on when I got home.  If you wear a medium t-shirt or wear a large and 
like wearing more form-fitting clothing, this is a great deal.  It is 
really nice but I don't think I'll wear it.  Please keep in mind that it is 
a 1/4 zip version, NOT the crewneck that Riv sells.  I'm guessing it was a 
sample they received from the vendor.

PM me if you're interested.
John

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[RBW] Thar's gold in them thar hills!

[Deacon Patrick]

Today's ride was delightful! Nobody honked at me (as they did Saturday, ending 
the ride then and there. Thankfully nearly all downhill home). One eager and 
wee aspen about 3' tall has gone full gold already. Avant guard! My choice part 
way round Rampart a I watched three thunderheads build up was to do the ride 
I'd hoped and be stuck waiting for several hours for the lightening to clear so 
I could ride the ridges home, or pop directly back and not be exposed. I took 
the wimpy route and got home before the rain and boomers collided overhead 
sitting on our house and the reservoir, which is only a few miles away as the 
crow flies (but 20 and the ogre pedals). Grin. Enjoy the photos! Scroll right 
for the full set: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/29243612721/in/album-72157666852892563/

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Leah Peterson]

I only have three kids on the ride home. Flat Tire and her sister are tossing 
their bikes in the back of Dad’s pick up. Sweet relief! I so agree with you on 
the parents needing to take some responsibility. I’m going to talk to Raleigh 
Girl’s mom first because her family will probably not bat an eye at paying for 
a new rack or a new bike. The other family will be more difficult. I’ll have to 
choose my methods carefully…

John, one does not ride another bike when one has The Best Bike in the Whole 
Wide World! No matter how ill-equipped! Haha!

Patrick wanted more photos, and I’ll get those this week, Patrick, but every 
one I took today had identifying info (street names, school name), and since 
they aren’t my kids, I won’t post those. I’ll get some more anonymous shots 
this week, I hope. But here’s a photo of the cars trying to LEAVE campus this 
morning. Flat tire or not, we got the less frustrating end of the deal!










> On Aug 29, 2016, at 12:54 PM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> Hope the afternoon run goes well, but you still have that bike with the flat 
> tire waiting for you.  I think each family needs to be responsible for their 
> student's load carrying as well as bike condition.  Just digging their old 
> bike out of the cobwebs & pumping up the tires isn't enough.  If you're on 
> the street with this group, the bikes need to have been serviced (cables? 
> brakes? chains?) and the kids need to have some idea of what their supposed 
> to be doing.  With a wide disparity in ages will come a wide variety of 
> average speeds, esp on that uphill run home in the heat.  Maybe a Saturday 
> get together with all the families?  A couple of practice runs?  All things 
> considered it's a great idea and you're doing a good thing by shepherding 
> these kids to school.  
> 
> dougP
> 
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:16:46 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
> I would tend to agree with the trailer idea as well.  We used a Chariot for a 
> while and it worked quite well and several friends use the BOB Yak.  The BOBs 
> are nice because they easily hang in a garage when not in use but it is 
> expensive.  We bought the Chariot at one of the REI garage sales for a 
> fraction of the retail price (maybe $75?).  Later, we sold it on craigslist 
> for a profit (Not profiteers... we honestly forgot how much we had paid for 
> it.)  Worked for kids, dogs and errands.  The nice thing about the trailer is 
> that it doesn't effect your pleasure riding.  There is often a simple 
> attachment piece that attaches to the axle or seatpost depending on the 
> brand.  It was very easy to take on and off.  I'd do a little research to 
> identify a few trailers that would work and then surf your local classifieds, 
> craigslist or online sales.  A quick search of the REI Garage (previously 
> Outlet) showed no trailers but they might in the future 
> (https://www.rei.com/rei-garage/search?q=trailer&pagesize=84&queryRule=outlet-only&ir=q%3Atrailer&outlet=true
>  
> ).
> 
> Good luck with the school year.
> John (also back in the classroom after a pleasant summer)
> 
> On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 2:27:25 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
> School begins on Monday, and we have before us a number of challenges. The 
> school is in its second year, and it has exploded in population. There was 
> nearly no parking to begin with, and with the second school in the 
> neighborhood also convening in the morning and with the canyon's whole 
> workforce trying to get out for their 25 minute commute with but one single 
> road that we all must share, biking is a NO-BRAINER. But nearly no one, 
> excepting us, has done it. The school is 2 miles from my door (too far to 
> walk), all downhill to school, and all uphill on the way home. The hill is so 
> steep that a child really needs brakes of good quality for the downhill, and 
> a bike that isn't too heavy (these are just kids, remember) and has GEARS for 
> the way uphill. Also ideal would be a bottle cage for water since we live in 
> Vegas and a rack. But a rack is probably asking too much.
> I mentor the junior high girls from church (I heart teenagers!), and one of 
> my little favorites, L,  will attend our school. She and her little sister 
> plan to use their electric scooter and bike to join us. She babysits a boy 
> who will ride with us on his own bike. Another family I'm acquainted with 
> asked if their 5th grader could join us. As I was leaving campus after the 
> meet and greet today, I heard L yell, "Leah! We have some more coming!"
> 
> "More what?" I asked.
> "More girls!" she called.
> "Riding bikes?" I asked, incredulous.
> "Yes, my mom's getting all their information, I'll tell you later!"
> 
> So, there you have it. Leah's Bicycle Bus is born!
> 
> You might imagine I have some anxiety about the logistics. Even more about 
> the liability. I have a plan worked out, and 

[RBW] Thar's gold in them thar hills!

[LeahFoy]

Oh, good grief!!! It's 105 degrees here and not a golden tree in sight!

You shall not covet your neighbor's rides. You shall not covet your neighbor's 
rides.

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[RBW] Re: Thar's gold in them thar hills!

[Bill Lindsay]

Orange-panel Hunqapillars are the noblest variant of rumbling mammoths. 
 FACT!

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 1:16:51 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Today's ride was delightful! Nobody honked at me (as they did Saturday, 
> ending the ride then and there. Thankfully nearly all downhill home). One 
> eager and wee aspen about 3' tall has gone full gold already. Avant guard! 
> My choice part way round Rampart a I watched three thunderheads build up 
> was to do the ride I'd hoped and be stuck waiting for several hours for the 
> lightening to clear so I could ride the ridges home, or pop directly back 
> and not be exposed. I took the wimpy route and got home before the rain and 
> boomers collided overhead sitting on our house and the reservoir, which is 
> only a few miles away as the crow flies (but 20 and the ogre pedals). Grin. 
> Enjoy the photos! Scroll right for the full set: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/29243612721/in/album-72157666852892563/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.OurHolyConception.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Cunningham medical fund

[Ryan Fleming]

And see today's BLUG from Grant...neato write-up about CC with a gallery of 
his bikes and Riv will give .50 on the dollar up to 250.00 for store credit.

I suspect that this will be an ongoing needwell I wish CC and JP the 
best...I certainly remember Jacquie's wit from the mid 80's and man, those 
bikes are really elegant. What a tragedy

On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 1:13:34 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> I should correct what I said earlier...apologies
>
> Riv will match up $1500.00 up to July 20...does not  seem to matter 
> whether you're  a Riv customer or  not
>
> From Riv's post:
>
> *Rivendell Bicycle Whorls RBW*
> *18 hours ago *
>
> 
>   
> 
>
> *OK now, here's a chance to give CC (via JP) a minor-major shove. From now 
> until Wed-the-20th at 5pm, RBW will match all donations up to a maximum of 
> $1,500. So...C & J could have $3K more by then. Have tried this in the past 
> with almost no uptick, but consider that your $20 donation will actually 
> add $40. Let's go! *
>
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 10:37:13 AM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> As an FYI, it looks like RBW is matching donations from Rivendell members 
>> dollar-for-dollar until July 20, which is very generous of them
>>
>> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 9:20:29 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Her most recent update isn't a good one: 
>>> https://www.gofundme.com/w85tn3dg
>>> Sounds like she's getting run-down in the caregiver role. :-(
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 8:01:58 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Jaquie P. has been posting more updates on Charlie's condition and 
 recovery of late.

 Stop by when you have the time and continue to spread the word - 
 https://www.gofundme.com/w85tn3dg

 - Jim / cyclofiend.com



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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Quickbeam 58cm for sale

[Metin Uz]

Still available. Get it before I change my mind :-)

--Metin

On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 10:58:37 AM UTC-7, Metin Uz wrote:
>
> I listed my Quickbeam in SF Bay Area Craigslist:
>
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/5746004218.html
>
> I would like to sell it locally, but will consider shipping if it doesn't 
> sell in a week or two.
>
> --Metin
>
>

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[RBW] Re: An opportunistic Sunday

[Lungimsam]

Thanks for the great ride report and build report! So much fun to read.

Why did you want to go tubeless, Tony?
I would think that in the DC area one would not need to go tubeless.

I think the Velocity A23 is tubeless ready.

Nice pics, too! Wow, I didn't realize you have had the Saluki for so long. 
I remember you posting when you first got it.


 

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[RBW] Re: Thar's gold in them thar hills!

[Ryan Fleming]

and goes very  nicely with the golden aspen leaves for sure. I do love 
autumn

BTW Patrick...on traffic noise; I feel your painI find highway traffic 
extremely stressful  as I get older especially when it's whizzing by and 
there's no paved shoulder and you're not sure how firm the gravel shoulder 
is. Not quality time on the bike for anyone, I suspect. 

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 4:13:00 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Orange-panel Hunqapillars are the noblest variant of rumbling mammoths. 
>  FACT!
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 1:16:51 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Today's ride was delightful! Nobody honked at me (as they did Saturday, 
>> ending the ride then and there. Thankfully nearly all downhill home). One 
>> eager and wee aspen about 3' tall has gone full gold already. Avant guard! 
>> My choice part way round Rampart a I watched three thunderheads build up 
>> was to do the ride I'd hoped and be stuck waiting for several hours for the 
>> lightening to clear so I could ride the ridges home, or pop directly back 
>> and not be exposed. I took the wimpy route and got home before the rain and 
>> boomers collided overhead sitting on our house and the reservoir, which is 
>> only a few miles away as the crow flies (but 20 and the ogre pedals). Grin. 
>> Enjoy the photos! Scroll right for the full set: 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/29243612721/in/album-72157666852892563/
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> www.OurHolyConception.org
>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] What pressures do you run your Ruffy Tuffy 28's at?

[Lungimsam]

Also, how does the ride compare to other 28's you have ridden?

Just wundrin'. Thanks for the info.

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[RBW] Re: Thar's gold in them thar hills!

[Deacon Patrick]

If it helps, Leah, it's 100% humidity and 48˚F and raining wonderfully 
right now. Perhaps just the thought of cool and wet will help? Grin.

Yes, Bill, and orange is the fastest color, made even faster by being in 
combo with silver/pewter. Grin.

I can't even imagine riding a road like that, Ryan. Yipes. The lad who 
honked gave a nice, friendly "I'm here and I'm excited you're riding a bike 
and I can look at you as I pass" light tap on the horn, albeit right next 
to me as he passed. This was a 1.5 lane (2 lane by european standards) 
winding canyon road, though a steady bit of traffic heading up to play for 
the weekend day. Today, I grinned as I passed the turnaround point. Somehow 
it always seems a wee victory getting past a place a ride blew up. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

>
>>>

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[RBW] WTT: my 64cm Quickbeam for your 62cm Quickbeam

[Michael Williams]

Hey group,  just wondering if anyone has a 62QB that feels a little small and 
might be interested in giving a 64QB a shot.   Mine is orange if that matters.  
 Just PM if theres any interest.   Thanks!   -Mike

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[RBW] More Rosco v2's available

[Jeff Lesperance]

I was hemmin' and hawin' over buying into the Rosco v2 pre-order a couple
of weeks ago and in a moment of clarity plunked down the cash - I think I
may have gotten the last of the original intended nine framesets. I was
poking around today and found that Riv found five more forks so theres an
additional five more Rosco v2's available for pre-order. C'mon now - join
the club - you need it! Go green!

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-rosco-02.htm

Mine will be getting most of the bits from my slightly-too-small Hilsen
except for the Nitto Noodles as I just ordered up a Choco-Norm bar for that
upright and pulled back ride, and the 650b wheels of course, but I have an
extra 700c wheelset kicking around.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[dougP]

Yea, you can't say he's not out front about it.

dougP

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 1:18:16 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Maybe, but the marketing GENIUS of his listing title:  "A Big Bike"  
>
> Bow down!  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 1:00:29 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>>
>> Seems like this guy has really limited himself by spec'ing "local only" 
>> in Las Cruces, NM.  Maybe a factor in the price.  The large size further 
>> limits his market.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 12:38:46 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Well ok then. Although a complete AHH with Paul centerpulls for 975 
>>> tells me I better make sure it's legit before handing cash over...
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"

[Esteban]

My Black Sheep has a to fork. LOVE it, but I understand they are hard to make, 
$$$, and don't play well with cantis because if flex (v-brakes are perfect - I 
have Paul Moto-lite BMX on now). 

XCr is a more exotic steel - but difficult to repair.

Just get a Hunqa - there is no better bike that will last as long for the OP's 
purposes

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[RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"

[Bill Lindsay]

If I wanted a Ti Monster Cross bike, I would have a good long look at Baxter

http://moots.com/bike/baxter-29/



On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 12:54:44 PM UTC-7, Call Me Jay wrote:
>
> Bars level with saddle is a must.

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[RBW] More Rosco v2's available

[WETH]

Jeff,
If it rides like Rosco v1, you'll love it. A great bike!
You're welcome to come over to Kensington and take my son's Rosco v1 for a spin.

Erl
Kensington, MD

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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Cockpit?

[Deacon Patrick]

As close to naked as I dare! Grin.

Hunqapillar: Brake levers, thumb shifter for rear DR.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/29288700126/in/dateposted-public/

Quickbeam: Brake levers
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/29010417892/in/dateposted-public/

I have a battery powered IQ light that I occasionally pop on there, but 
only rarely.

I've kept the Hunqapillar's bars unwrapped as I experimented with the brake 
lever placement, and also again testing if I like the bars naked. I do, 
until I sweat. Climbing steep hills without cotton tape isn't fun when 
sweating on the bars. Interestingly, round here that's mostly an issue 
Spring and Fall (keep in mind, summer is a 30 day period that happens 
randomly between mid-June and mid-August and winter is October through 
April, Autumn and Spring happening in the fringe calidoscope of days) 
because in Summer the temp is high (for here) but the humidity is low 
because the temp is high, so moisture management is not an issue. However, 
now, with cooler temps and with stormy days we often have 70-100% humidity, 
in the 40-60˚F range, so nothing evaporates. Bars are soon getting the 
cotton tape (Grey on both this time round).

I've mentioned my aversion to cockpit gadgets like GPS/computers. The 
simplicity of the ride is wondrous. On today's ride, I paid zero attention 
to time or distance, though I know I rode fairly fast as I was a gear 
higher than often. I love that kind of "ride by feel," and do it even when 
I'm exploring new territory (though at this point I basically know what's 
in my day ride range quite well, so there is no new territory without 
either getting driven somewhere or bikepacking from home.).

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 6:37:23 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> My Riv Road: Steel, leather, friction shifting ... and a bunch of 
> electronic gear. Even the headlights are electronic. 
>
> What's in *your* cockpit?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Cockpit?

[Eric Norris]

Deacon:

You are the soul surfer of cyclists:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_surfer 
 

Ride on!

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

> On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> 
> As close to naked as I dare! Grin.
> 
> Hunqapillar: Brake levers, thumb shifter for rear DR.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/29288700126/in/dateposted-public/
> 
> Quickbeam: Brake levers
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/29010417892/in/dateposted-public/
> 
> I have a battery powered IQ light that I occasionally pop on there, but only 
> rarely.
> 
> I've kept the Hunqapillar's bars unwrapped as I experimented with the brake 
> lever placement, and also again testing if I like the bars naked. I do, until 
> I sweat. Climbing steep hills without cotton tape isn't fun when sweating on 
> the bars. Interestingly, round here that's mostly an issue Spring and Fall 
> (keep in mind, summer is a 30 day period that happens randomly between 
> mid-June and mid-August and winter is October through April, Autumn and 
> Spring happening in the fringe calidoscope of days) because in Summer the 
> temp is high (for here) but the humidity is low because the temp is high, so 
> moisture management is not an issue. However, now, with cooler temps and with 
> stormy days we often have 70-100% humidity, in the 40-60˚F range, so nothing 
> evaporates. Bars are soon getting the cotton tape (Grey on both this time 
> round).
> 
> I've mentioned my aversion to cockpit gadgets like GPS/computers. The 
> simplicity of the ride is wondrous. On today's ride, I paid zero attention to 
> time or distance, though I know I rode fairly fast as I was a gear higher 
> than often. I love that kind of "ride by feel," and do it even when I'm 
> exploring new territory (though at this point I basically know what's in my 
> day ride range quite well, so there is no new territory without either 
> getting driven somewhere or bikepacking from home.).
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick 
> 
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 6:37:23 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
> My Riv Road: Steel, leather, friction shifting ... and a bunch of electronic 
> gear. Even the headlights are electronic. 
> 
> What's in *your* cockpit?
> 
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[RBW] Re: An opportunistic Sunday

[Tony DeFilippo]

Ryan - Thanks! I feel more comfortable after the first TL failure honestly 
than before... now I have experienced one failure and gotten through it 
without having to 'phone a friend'.  Not sure if that is normal but I do 
feel a bit more comfortable w/ the idea.  Now I'm not that comfortable with 
riding that combo of tires/rims and terrain but I may give it another go 
(equipped with co2).  The Arlington Loop ride was such a bonus, I haven't 
done it all year to this point and it's a shame because if I managed my 
time a bit better I could maybe even slide it into a commute one of these 
days.  It was great riding two routes that weren't my commute if nothing 
else.  I'm glad to hear you made it out to Fountainhead, that is on my list 
and a buddy has promised to show me around.  Is your MTB a more 
modern/suspension ride?  I'm new to the singletrack riding and like the 
idea of tagging along with more experienced riders!

Lungimsam - Thanks as well!  I said it in an earlier post but TL for me is 
a solution searching for a problem... I have not been flat prone in any 
wheel/tire set up at this point, as you mention the DC area is pretty 
benign for that. I did have a ton of pinch flats on a tandem C&O ride last 
summer but that is a different beast.  Anyway it was more curiosity mixed 
with getting ahold of the PL23 rims. I tried mounting them with tubes and 
pinched two tubes right off the bat, I was going to donate the rims (they 
were gifted to me from Erl/Weth) and he passed me the link about TL 
compatibility so I figured I'd give it a try.  I've got the stuff to try 
tubeless on my A23's with the Parimoto's as well but haven't done it yet.

I was surprised how long I've had the Saluki in its new configuration. I 
got the original Saluki (the purple-luki) way back in late March 2014 and I 
rode the GAP with my Dad on that bike in May 2014 and promptly traded it 
list member Bill for his (formally Steve's) Green Saluki, then I wrecked 
the bike in Aug 2014 and didn't get the new fork, alignment, re-paint 
completed till Mar 2015... it was an eventful first year with the Saluki to 
be sure.  Now that I just looked up those dates the last 15 months of just 
riding and maintaining a very static build seems all the more amazing.  I 
commuted today on the Saluki and realized I must have pushed out some air 
in the tires w/ the Arlington Loop yesterday, still rode good but I was 
working a bit harder than I needed to. Tonight I messed with the Canti 
brake setup after seeing some good recent posts on one of the lists about 
proper brake setup.  Going from the upright/mtb levers to road levers made 
me realize I had not optimized the brakes much... we'll see how it stops 
tomorrow morning.

I'm planning for a 'coffee outside' with the  - Crystal City Coffee 
Club - tomorrow morning. My camping kettle is MIA so I'll have to brew at 
home or buy a cup in CC but it should still be fun.

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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Cockpit?

[franklyn]

Hi, Eric,

Interesting exercise. I have five bikes, and I have tried various 
handlebars but always ended up using drop bars with aero levers; I have 
dabbled in GPS computers, but now only have simple cyclometers that keep 
track of distance, speed, and time of day. I have cloths or cork bar tape, 
and since all five bikes have dynamo wheels, the front light is sitting 
lower around rack height. On some bikes I have only downtube shifters, some 
bar-end shifters on the right hand, and one bike has mismatched bar-end 
shifters--all of them friction.

This picture 
shows
 
a fairly standard set up for me.

Best,
Franklyn

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> My Riv Road: Steel, leather, friction shifting ... and a bunch of 
> electronic gear. Even the headlights are electronic. 
>
> What's in *your* cockpit?
>
>
>
> –Eric N
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: An opportunistic Sunday

[Steve Palincsar]

I'm happy to see my old Saluki back on the road and showing its mettle, 
but honestly, Tony - you really have got to do something about that 
rusty chain!



On 08/29/2016 09:36 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
Ryan - Thanks! I feel more comfortable after the first TL failure 
honestly than before... now I have experienced one failure and gotten 
through it without having to 'phone a friend'.  Not sure if that is 
normal but I do feel a bit more comfortable w/ the idea.  Now I'm not 
that comfortable with riding that combo of tires/rims and terrain but 
I may give it another go (equipped with co2).  The Arlington Loop ride 
was such a bonus, I haven't done it all year to this point and it's a 
shame because if I managed my time a bit better I could maybe even 
slide it into a commute one of these days.  It was great riding two 
routes that weren't my commute if nothing else.  I'm glad to hear you 
made it out to Fountainhead, that is on my list and a buddy has 
promised to show me around.  Is your MTB a more modern/suspension 
ride?  I'm new to the singletrack riding and like the idea of tagging 
along with more experienced riders!


Lungimsam - Thanks as well!  I said it in an earlier post but TL for 
me is a solution searching for a problem... I have not been flat prone 
in any wheel/tire set up at this point, as you mention the DC area is 
pretty benign for that. I did have a ton of pinch flats on a tandem 
C&O ride last summer but that is a different beast.  Anyway it was 
more curiosity mixed with getting ahold of the PL23 rims. I tried 
mounting them with tubes and pinched two tubes right off the bat, I 
was going to donate the rims (they were gifted to me from Erl/Weth) 
and he passed me the link about TL compatibility so I figured I'd give 
it a try.  I've got the stuff to try tubeless on my A23's with the 
Parimoto's as well but haven't done it yet.


I was surprised how long I've had the Saluki in its new configuration. 
I got the original Saluki (the purple-luki) way back in late March 
2014 and I rode the GAP with my Dad on that bike in May 2014 and 
promptly traded it list member Bill for his (formally Steve's) Green 
Saluki, then I wrecked the bike in Aug 2014 and didn't get the new 
fork, alignment, re-paint completed till Mar 2015... it was an 
eventful first year with the Saluki to be sure.  Now that I just 
looked up those dates the last 15 months of just riding and 
maintaining a very static build seems all the more amazing.  I 
commuted today on the Saluki and realized I must have pushed out some 
air in the tires w/ the Arlington Loop yesterday, still rode good but 
I was working a bit harder than I needed to. Tonight I messed with the 
Canti brake setup after seeing some good recent posts on one of the 
lists about proper brake setup.  Going from the upright/mtb levers to 
road levers made me realize I had not optimized the brakes much... 
we'll see how it stops tomorrow morning.


I'm planning for a 'coffee outside' with the  - Crystal City 
Coffee Club - tomorrow morning. My camping kettle is MIA so I'll have 
to brew at home or buy a cup in CC but it should still be fun.




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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Cockpit?

[Eric Karnes]

Mine seems to get more austere each year...shellacked cotton over old 
tubes, fraying black twine and brake levers. In the evenings, there's a 
little Knog USB headlight on there, but it comes off whenever I lock the 
bike around Philly. 

A few years back, I ditched the cycle computer. It really helped me to get 
over the overwhelming riding as 'training' mentality. Not that there's 
anything wrong with training...I just never knew exactly what I was 
training for. 

Eric

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:06:24 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> As close to naked as I dare! Grin.
>
> Hunqapillar: Brake levers, thumb shifter for rear DR.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/29288700126/in/dateposted-public/
>
> Quickbeam: Brake levers
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/29010417892/in/dateposted-public/
>
> I have a battery powered IQ light that I occasionally pop on there, but 
> only rarely.
>
> I've kept the Hunqapillar's bars unwrapped as I experimented with the 
> brake lever placement, and also again testing if I like the bars naked. I 
> do, until I sweat. Climbing steep hills without cotton tape isn't fun when 
> sweating on the bars. Interestingly, round here that's mostly an issue 
> Spring and Fall (keep in mind, summer is a 30 day period that happens 
> randomly between mid-June and mid-August and winter is October through 
> April, Autumn and Spring happening in the fringe calidoscope of days) 
> because in Summer the temp is high (for here) but the humidity is low 
> because the temp is high, so moisture management is not an issue. However, 
> now, with cooler temps and with stormy days we often have 70-100% humidity, 
> in the 40-60˚F range, so nothing evaporates. Bars are soon getting the 
> cotton tape (Grey on both this time round).
>
> I've mentioned my aversion to cockpit gadgets like GPS/computers. The 
> simplicity of the ride is wondrous. On today's ride, I paid zero attention 
> to time or distance, though I know I rode fairly fast as I was a gear 
> higher than often. I love that kind of "ride by feel," and do it even when 
> I'm exploring new territory (though at this point I basically know what's 
> in my day ride range quite well, so there is no new territory without 
> either getting driven somewhere or bikepacking from home.).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick 
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 6:37:23 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> My Riv Road: Steel, leather, friction shifting ... and a bunch of 
>> electronic gear. Even the headlights are electronic. 
>>
>> What's in *your* cockpit?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Dia compe knob grip?

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Evan, what is your bike? Always curious as to what everyone is riding. 

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Friday, September 19, 2014 at 5:27:45 PM UTC-4, Evan Baird wrote:
>
> Have em. Love em.
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Anyone tried the mod174 drop bar from Nitto?

[John M]

I'm looking for drop handlebars for my Hunqapillar and stumbled onto this 
bar from Fairweather in Japan.  It's a modified Nitto Noodle with shorter 
reach and drop:

Fairweather Allroad 

As far as I know, it is only available from Fairweather in Japan, so I'm 
wondering if someone here might have taken the plunge and tried it out. 
 Any reviews?


Ideally I'd love to find something like the Ritchey EvoMax 
 but with 26.0 clamp diameter. 
 Does such a bar exist?



thanks,
john

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[RBW] WTT: Roadeo for a Hilsen

[Eric Karnes]

Hi all-


So, I’ve hemmed and hawed over this...and finally decided to let go of my 
61 cm Roadeo. It’s one of the demos that Rivendell was selling in the 
winter. It’s an absolutely fantastic bike...light, nimble, and stable...but 
my summer plan of engaging in long road rides never really materialized. 
And it’s simply too nice to be sitting in my apartment unused. 


I thought I’d first put out feelers for trading the frame for a 61cm Hilsen 
frame. If that doesn’t work out, I’ll be reposting it for sale. If you’re 
interested, free to email me for more details and photos.


Thanks!


Eric

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[adam leibow]

it is definitely much less of a headache to ship a frameset than a complete 
bike, though I have had quite a bit of local interest to me here in the bay 
area and prefer a local sale. 

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 12:46:34 PM UTC-7, Scott McLain wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill!
> That was exactly my question. It seems like it would be much easier to 
> ship a frame also.  By best, I meant best $ return, least waste $ and risk 
> on shipping, fewest headaches.  I agree with your summary to sell as a 
> frameset.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 1:28:57 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Scott asked if it is best to sell a used A Homer Hilsen or a used 
>> Atlantis as a complete or as a frameset.  
>>
>> As with most things, it depends.  What do you mean by "best"?  Do you 
>> mean "fewest headaches"?  Do you mean "least possible effort"?  Do you mean 
>> "fewest days on the market"?  Do you mean "most possible dollars in your 
>> pocket"?  
>>
>> Depending on what you mean, I'd usually say it's best to sell a frameset. 
>>  Most people want just a frameset, because there is something about your 
>> build that they don't like.  Most buyers don't have the energy to buy your 
>> complete and then part it out themselves, even though some completes are so 
>> darn cheap you could buy it and part it out and end up with a free 
>> frameset.  
>>
>> The absolute worst thing to sell used is wheels for some reason.  A great 
>> handbuilt wheelset, with great parts, can easily run $1000, but generally 
>> you'd be lucky to get 1/3 of retail for a used wheelset.  It's crazy.  So 
>> if you have a perfectly good wheelset on your complete(s) and it's a size 
>> that you can use again, absolutely keep those.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 11:59:14 AM UTC-7, Scott McLain wrote:
>>>
>>> I think this is on topic enough... Someone let me know if I need to 
>>> start a new thread.
>>>
>>> Is it best to sell an AHH or Atlantis as a complete bike or as a 
>>> frameset?  I am considering a similar transaction.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Anybody who thinks a complete AHH is selling for 950 needs to have 
 their head examined. 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[adam leibow]

by resilience, i do mean flat protection, not suppleness, though these are 
indeed nice and supple at the right pressure. 

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 11:59:14 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Not to be  pedantic, herebut I take it you mean flat resistance since 
> suppleness and resilience are more or less the same thing in this context
>
> Anyway, price on the frame with or without the Pauls will make somebody 
> happy, I suspect 
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-5, adam leibow wrote:
>>
>> thanks! they ride sharp too! i love them, but they max out this frame, 
>> and i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even fit when paired with a 
>> wider rim. they are not as supple as a compass but seem to offer a little 
>> more resilience in return. 
>>
>> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>>
>>> Adam what do you think of the WTB 47's on your AHH?  They look sharp!
>>>
>>> Good luck with the sale, at that price it shouldn't last long.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[Steve Palincsar]

re·sil·ience
rəˈzilyəns/
/noun/
noun: *resilience*; plural noun: *resiliences*

1.
   *1*.
   the ability of a substance or object to spring back into shape;
   elasticity.
   "nylon is excellent in wearability and resilience"
2.
   *2*.
   the capacity to recover quickly from difficulties; toughness.
   "the often remarkable resilience of so many British institutions"

How do you get /flat protection/ out of that?

On 08/29/2016 04:01 PM, adam leibow wrote:
by resilience, i do mean flat protection, not suppleness, though these 
are indeed nice and supple at the right pressure.


On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 11:59:14 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:

Not to be  pedantic, herebut I take it you mean flat
resistance since suppleness and resilience are more or less the
same thing in this context

Anyway, price on the frame with or without the Pauls will make
somebody happy, I suspect

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-5, adam leibow wrote:

thanks! they ride sharp too! i love them, but they max out
this frame, and i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even
fit when paired with a wider rim. they are not as supple as a
compass but seem to offer a little more resilience in return.

On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo
wrote:

Adam what do you think of the WTB 47's on your AHH?  They
look sharp!

Good luck with the sale, at that price it shouldn't last long.




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[RBW] Re: An opportunistic Sunday

[Bill]

Geez. Two years already. Time flies when you're having fun. I had both 
moustache bars and noodles on my/your Saluki and both were great. The 
PurpleLuki now sports noodles and like getting accustomed to a pair of 
comfortable shoes there's no motive to try anything else. Late congrats on the 
new wee one. I'm looking forward to your future report on when she ditches the 
training wheels and is two-wheeling on her own.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of Selling my 56 A Homer Hilsen!

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Ode to my resilient tire that faces thorns and glass galore, with nary a
scratch to show.


--T

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> re·sil·ience
> rəˈzilyəns/
> *noun*
> noun: *resilience*; plural noun: *resiliences*
>
>1. *1*.
>the ability of a substance or object to spring back into shape;
>elasticity.
>"nylon is excellent in wearability and resilience"
>2. *2*.
>the capacity to recover quickly from difficulties; toughness.
>"the often remarkable resilience of so many British institutions"
>
> How do you get *flat protection* out of that?
>
>
> On 08/29/2016 04:01 PM, adam leibow wrote:
>
> by resilience, i do mean flat protection, not suppleness, though these are
> indeed nice and supple at the right pressure.
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 11:59:14 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> Not to be  pedantic, herebut I take it you mean flat resistance since
>> suppleness and resilience are more or less the same thing in this context
>>
>> Anyway, price on the frame with or without the Pauls will make somebody
>> happy, I suspect
>>
>> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-5, adam leibow wrote:
>>>
>>> thanks! they ride sharp too! i love them, but they max out this frame,
>>> and i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even fit when paired with a
>>> wider rim. they are not as supple as a compass but seem to offer a little
>>> more resilience in return.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Adam what do you think of the WTB 47's on your AHH?  They look sharp!

 Good luck with the sale, at that price it shouldn't last long.

>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[franklyn]

When I read the title of the thread, I thought of this story on 
BikePortland a few years back: 


Mom carrying 6 kids in her bike. 


Best,
Franklyn

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 2:23:19 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I look forward to other photos. Nostalgia follows; bail out now while you 
> have a chance.
>
> Reminiscing about my own elementary school boyhood (Oh! So long ago!), I 
> recall carpooling in rather (at the time; now very much so) declasse 
> Clinton, MD, Prince George's county MD, where we lived for 4 years until my 
> father was transferred overseas. St, John the Evangelist RC parish started 
> its school in 1961, when I entered 1st grade. We carpooled between my 
> father (Renault Dauphine! -- sold the Peugeot 403 hoping to net some cash) 
> swapped transport duties with my best friend's mother (excessively large 
> Irish Catholic working class family) late '50s Ford SW) and another 
> aspiring white collar professional (vague 7 year old recollections of 
> semi-Euro compact and pretty 9 year old babe daughter). 
>
> But what about the setup below? I recall seeing many such transportation 
> arrangements in Bangalore when we lived there, 1st Q 1966 - end of 2d Q 
> 1967. I remember hailing a rickshaw to carry me home from my 2d Form (7th 
> grade) classes at St. Josephs (Jesuit) in Bangalore (the Prods went to 
> Bishop Cotton) -- odd, because usually my father's driver picked me up, 
> next stopping at the local Sacred Heart franchise to pick up my sisters and 
> little bro --at any rate, the skinny old man who pedaled the rickshaw was 
> very irate because he had to pedal me all the way to Palace Orchards, then 
> a dirt-road wilderness some (I guess) 7-8 miles from the school. I recall 
> having to argue with him and chivvy him along as we got further and further 
> from the downtown school. I myself started my long career of bike commuting 
> shortly afterward, when my parents let me ride my pimped Hero rod braked 
> roadster to school, and park it with all the other students' and staffs' 
> bikes in the Bike Shed (where I dangerously kick started the PT Teacher's 
> Vespa, then -- thank God! -- discovered the kill switch before he appeared 
> with bamboo cane in hand). 
>
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS 53cm Roadeo

[Chad]

Price drop. $2200 shipped CONUS

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[RBW] Re: An opportunistic Sunday

[Tony DeFilippo]

Steve I agree about the chain!  It's a bit embarrassing to look at... oddly 
enough despite it's looks it's darn silent and hitting all it's shifts. 
 I've got a spare chain in the garage earmarked for it though, maybe this 
weekend.

Bill - I know!  I can't believe it's been that long and I'm glad to hear 
the Purple-Luki is treating you right. Thanks on the little one comment, I 
can't wait till she's 'bike ready'.  So far she loves getting walked around 
the neighborhood in a stroller or bjorn sling so I'm hoping that translates 
into excitement for bike rides come spring!

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Cockpit?

[Eric Norris]

I switched to GPS computers a few years ago. I like having just one computer 
that goes from bike to bike without the need to calibrate for wheel size.

Prior to GPS, I had a computer for each bike, so what you see on my bike is 
actually part of an overall “simpler” cycling lifestyle.

GPS computers are also great for randonneuring, particularly with the ability 
to load courses and get reminders when a turn is coming up (great at night or 
when sleep-deprived).

--Eric Norris
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> On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:55 PM, franklyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Eric,
> 
> Interesting exercise. I have five bikes, and I have tried various handlebars 
> but always ended up using drop bars with aero levers; I have dabbled in GPS 
> computers, but now only have simple cyclometers that keep track of distance, 
> speed, and time of day. I have cloths or cork bar tape, and since all five 
> bikes have dynamo wheels, the front light is sitting lower around rack 
> height. On some bikes I have only downtube shifters, some bar-end shifters on 
> the right hand, and one bike has mismatched bar-end shifters--all of them 
> friction.
> 
> This picture  
> shows
>  a fairly standard set up for me.
> 
> Best,
> Franklyn
> 
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
> My Riv Road: Steel, leather, friction shifting ... and a bunch of electronic 
> gear. Even the headlights are electronic. 
> 
> What's in *your* cockpit?
> 
> 
> 
> –Eric N
> 
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[RBW] FS: Black, Aussie Wool 1/4 Zip Long Sleeve Shirt

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Sold!

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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried the mod174 drop bar from Nitto?

[Irving]

Hey John,

I have a set of Nitto Mod174 bars. They are very similar to Noodles but the 
shorter reach/drop plays very nicely with modern levers with long ramps. PM 
me if you're interested, as I may be selling a set.

The Nitto M151F 
 is 
available in the US and is similar if you wanted a short reach/shallow drop 
bar.

- Irving

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 7:03:15 PM UTC-7, John M wrote:
>
>
> I'm looking for drop handlebars for my Hunqapillar and stumbled onto this 
> bar from Fairweather in Japan.  It's a modified Nitto Noodle with shorter 
> reach and drop:
>
> Fairweather Allroad 
>
> As far as I know, it is only available from Fairweather in Japan, so I'm 
> wondering if someone here might have taken the plunge and tried it out. 
>  Any reviews?
>
>
> Ideally I'd love to find something like the Ritchey EvoMax 
>  but with 26.0 clamp 
> diameter.  Does such a bar exist?
>
>
>
> thanks,
> john
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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[René Sterental]

Nice bars Leah, how do you like them?

Love your stories, looking forward to Day 2 and wonder how many kids will
become regulars or will nag at their parents to drive them and pick them
up. Not many kids today are used to handling a new challenge.

And kudos to you for doing this. My wife sabotaged all my attempts to have
my kids ride to school, all flat and tons of kids doing it every day, and
my youngest two definitely took advantage of that. Oh well...

René

On Monday, August 29, 2016, franklyn  wrote:

> When I read the title of the thread, I thought of this story on
> BikePortland a few years back:
>
>
> 
> Mom carrying 6 kids in her bike.
> 
>
> Best,
> Franklyn
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 2:23:19 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I look forward to other photos. Nostalgia follows; bail out now while you
>> have a chance.
>>
>> Reminiscing about my own elementary school boyhood (Oh! So long ago!), I
>> recall carpooling in rather (at the time; now very much so) declasse
>> Clinton, MD, Prince George's county MD, where we lived for 4 years until my
>> father was transferred overseas. St, John the Evangelist RC parish started
>> its school in 1961, when I entered 1st grade. We carpooled between my
>> father (Renault Dauphine! -- sold the Peugeot 403 hoping to net some cash)
>> swapped transport duties with my best friend's mother (excessively large
>> Irish Catholic working class family) late '50s Ford SW) and another
>> aspiring white collar professional (vague 7 year old recollections of
>> semi-Euro compact and pretty 9 year old babe daughter).
>>
>> But what about the setup below? I recall seeing many such transportation
>> arrangements in Bangalore when we lived there, 1st Q 1966 - end of 2d Q
>> 1967. I remember hailing a rickshaw to carry me home from my 2d Form (7th
>> grade) classes at St. Josephs (Jesuit) in Bangalore (the Prods went to
>> Bishop Cotton) -- odd, because usually my father's driver picked me up,
>> next stopping at the local Sacred Heart franchise to pick up my sisters and
>> little bro --at any rate, the skinny old man who pedaled the rickshaw was
>> very irate because he had to pedal me all the way to Palace Orchards, then
>> a dirt-road wilderness some (I guess) 7-8 miles from the school. I recall
>> having to argue with him and chivvy him along as we got further and further
>> from the downtown school. I myself started my long career of bike commuting
>> shortly afterward, when my parents let me ride my pimped Hero rod braked
>> roadster to school, and park it with all the other students' and staffs'
>> bikes in the Bike Shed (where I dangerously kick started the PT Teacher's
>> Vespa, then -- thank God! -- discovered the kill switch before he appeared
>> with bamboo cane in hand).
>>
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
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[RBW] FS: Gevenalle GX2 shifters - shimano dyna-sys compatible, 10speed

[twowheeledtexan]

I've got an older set of Retroshifts, they're awesome. Somebody will be happy 
with these. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Cockpit?

[Joe Bernard]

The Appaloosa (main 'nice bike' bike) currently has Choco-Moose, Ergon grips, 
Tektro levers for cantis, SunRace 9-speed thumbies, USB headlight kinda like 
yours, but the newer model with the rubber-band mount. I put my phone on a 
mount or in a bar bag..it has a GPS app on it, but I've never quite sorted out 
all the functions. 

This bar is in mid-construction to be swappable with the Noodles that came on 
the bike after I get all the cable splitters installed. That bar has Silver 
bar-ends.

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[LeahFoy]

René, ooh, I LOVE the bars. They do let me sit up nice and high, and unless on 
a steep climb, I rarely think about them, which, like saddles, means they're 
great. I got Riv's new long, skinny cork grips! I watched the twining video 100 
times and finally got what Mark was doing there. I just kept thinking, "Leah, 
you can braid hair French, Dutch, upside down, standing on your HEAD; you can 
figure this out!" And so I did. Then I shellacked it. I'm super good at 
shellacking. And to prove it, I did it four times. Then I noticed my husband's 
Clem over there and attacked it with a fresh coat, too. I looked around for 
more stuff to shellac but there was nothing, so reluctantly I put imy brush 
away. (Side note: do you all think it's spelled "shellac" as a noun but 
"shellack" as a verb? It looks right to me.) The bars have 3 quirks: 1. They 
make the bike want to tip over more easily. 2. I have caught myself veering off 
a bit and it was not a quick an easy correction. It scared me a bit. 3. The 
width works totally different muscles on a climb. My triceps and trapezius 
muscles are working. Fine with me.

But I digress.

The Ride Home. Well, you all didn't pray for me because it was AWFUL. It was 
hot. Hot, hot, hot. Sweltering, stifling, oppressive heat, with nary a cloud in 
the sky for help. I arrived early because one of my quirks is a continual fear 
of being late. So, there I stood. In triple digit heat with no shade. Like a 
fool. I finally collected my 3 charges, only to have one say he forgot his 
Hydroflask and would be right back. We stood there forever. He comes back with 
no Hydroflask. Alright, I guess I'm sharing my water. The boys looked a little 
wilted at the start, but the girl, T, was just about done in by the second 
block. I kept promising it would get better as the weather cools and her 
muscles adapt. But she insisted on walking most of that mile-long hill. I had 
to wear my little guy's backpack, and haul my 5th grader's heavy beast of a 
pack in my basket. I shoved some of T's notebooks in my saddlesack to lighten 
her load. She had no kickstand, so I had to hold her bike at water breaks, 
while fighting to keep mine from toppling with its huge front load. Something 
was wrong and she couldn't shift to an easier gear. She had her enormous 
backpack on her back, and it was way too much. The boys' style was severely 
cramped by all the waiting, but they have kind hearts, so wait they did without 
complaint. She walked a lot. Slowly. I waited a lot. The boys found shade a 
ways up ahead and laid on the sidewalk like homeless kids. Not wanting to leave 
her too far behind, I stood in the blazing sun while she plodded along, and 
suddenly strange things started happening to me. As I poured sweat (highly 
uncharacteristic), I noticed my lips had gone completely, uncomfortably dry. I 
got goosebumps - as if I was becoming cold. I started to get an impending sense 
of doom, like I might not make the rest of this darn climb, and I began 
wracking my brain to remember the signs of heat exhaustion/heat stroke. I was 
past the point of feeling like water was helpful. I had very little left in me. 
Near the end, I sent the boys ahead so at least they could get home and get 
cool.

I honestly don't know how, but we all made it. I dropped T off, unloaded my 
bike, got inside, laid on cool tile and ate a lime fruit bar and drank water. I 
could have wrung the sweat out of my shirt. The boys and I jumped in the pool 
and were good as new. T has decided she no longer wants to do the ride. Her 
mother REALLY wants her to do the ride. She wants to practice with her this 
weekend and get her a front basket. I said if that doesn't work, I had a new 
bike suggestion. "Anything that would help!" she said. I think an Islabike in 
her size with the rack, which holds 39 lbs and Ortlieb panniers would work. And 
it's light and she can even have a kickstand. I sent the info and we'll see. 
The mom believes T is being lazy (I don't think so) but she's from South 
Africa, and maybe in that country this is not much to ask of a South African 
child. American kids, on the other hand...well, they were all surely pointing 
and laughing at us from the back seats of their air-conditioned motherships.

René, sorry you missed out on cycling to school. I envy your kids' flat 
commute! Thank you for my new bars. I'll have great triceps, thanks to them!

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