Re: [RE-wrenches] Trace SW4024 not selling.

2018-11-12 Thread louis 
John,You did say that the Line tie LED was on so you must have it in Sell mode;OK.The INV/CHGR is likely in a Bulk charge mode(is the Bulk LED on?).Once the INV/CHGR has completed the Bulk charge then it will drop down to the Float charge mode(Float LED ON).Now that the INV/CHGHR is in the Float mode it will then begin to export(regulate the battery voltage at float level) power to the GRID.I will typically go in and adjust the Absorb timer way down just to do a quick test;don't forget to adjust the Absorb back once test is complete.Hope this helps, Louis.


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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trace SW4024 not selling.
From: Chris Schaefer 
Date: Mon, November 12, 2018 5:00 am
To: RE-wrenches 

Also don't forget to set the (18) Grid Usage TimerChristopherOn Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 1:35 AM,  wrote:and the yellow "line tie" led should be on.   todd     On Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:30pm, "Ray"  said:  I'm sure you did this, but did you set menu 9 (Inverter Setup) - Grid Usage to "SELL"  ?  Its a whole separate menu heading than "Battery Selling".  That was always a bit of a pain to have to set it in 2 different menu headings. Ray Walters Remote Solar 303 505-8760 On 11/11/18 9:53 PM, John Blittersdorf wrote:  I have a past off-grid customer who has now connected to the grid and I installed a transfer switch to allow him to run off-grid or grid tied.  We have ACIN 1 good and line tie light lit up..  It just refuses to sell.  Are there any other settings that would impact selling beyond the max sell amps and sell voltage?    John Blittersdorf.    ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: re-wrenc...@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenc...@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org  Sent from Finest Planet WebMail.___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance  List Address: re-wrenc...@lists.re-wrenches.org  Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org  List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenc...@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html  List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm  Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org  -- Chris Schaefer’sTel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York 14424www.solarandwindfx.com ~ E-mail: ch...@solarandwindfx.com Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said, "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."  ___
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging two battery banks

2018-11-12 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 


Chris, 

When I do this for a client, I add a second inverter/charger
and make a completely redundant system. This way it can be powered from the
DC bus or AC trickle charged which is very easy to automate. 
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:46:18 -0700,  wrote:   

Dear
people: 

I have a customer with a solar array for his 24V system, Bergey
Excel 10 wind genny, 12KW Kohler generator, two Outback controllers and two
FX inverters. He currently has a set of the Solar One SO-6-100-33/24
batteries, which have maybe a year or two left in their life. What he would
like to do is add a separate battery bank - perhaps a set of LFPs (like
SimpliPhi). He wants a set up where, when his Solar One batteries are full,
the excess voltage 'automatically' charges his secondary battery bank.  

I
am wondering if a dump load controller would suffice (so when his Solar One
batteries are full, excess voltage is dumped to the secondary battery
bank), but I'm not getting much help from any manufacturers as to what
might work. Any suggestions? 

Best, 

Chris Daum 

Oasis Montana Inc.


406-777-4309 or 4321 

406-777-4309 fax 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging two battery banks

2018-11-12 Thread Ray 
I don't think I quite see the advantage of that plan.  The HUPs do not 
die with quick catastrophic failures like L16s often do. They usually 
just slowly lose a little capacity each year, begin to use a bit more 
water, and become a bit less efficient in charging.  How old are the 
HUPs and what are the symptoms that lead him to think they are on their 
last legs?


As far as the charging 2 batteries scenario, I suppose you could set 
that up with a relay controlled by a SOC meter.  The Midnite Classic I 
believe has that capability when used with their WhizBang Jr.  Diversion 
load is a possibility as you thought, but it just sounds like a lot of 
trouble.  He might get 5 more years from the HUPs, and by then the Li+ 
pricing will have dropped more.


If you do the 2 battery bank scenario, you also have to set up some 
fairly high amp transfer switching, and figure out whether that would be 
manual or automatic as well.  The closest I've seen folks do that is 
using a Marine type battery selector.  It works, but no inspector is 
going to ever let that fly.  LEt us know what you come up with.  I've 
had a few customers want that over the years.


Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 11/12/18 11:46 AM, ch...@oasismontana.com wrote:


Dear people:

I have a customer with a solar array for his 24V system, Bergey Excel 
10 wind genny, 12KW Kohler generator, two Outback controllers and two 
FX inverters.He currently has a set of the Solar One SO-6-100-33/24 
batteries, which have maybe a year or two left in their life.What he 
would like to do is add a separate battery bank – perhaps a set of 
LFPs (like SimpliPhi).He wants a set up where, when his Solar One 
batteries are full, the excess voltage ‘automatically’ charges his 
secondary battery bank.


I am wondering if a dump load controller would suffice (so when his 
Solar One batteries are full, excess voltage is dumped to the 
secondary battery bank), but I’m not getting much help from any 
manufacturers as to what might work.Any suggestions?


Best,

Chris Daum

Oasis Montana Inc.

406-777-4309 or 4321

406-777-4309 fax

www.oasismontana.com 



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[RE-wrenches] Charging two battery banks

2018-11-12 Thread chris 
Dear people:
 
I have a customer with a solar array for his 24V system, Bergey Excel 10
wind genny, 12KW Kohler generator, two Outback controllers and two FX
inverters.  He currently has a set of the Solar One SO-6-100-33/24
batteries, which have maybe a year or two left in their life.  What he would
like to do is add a separate battery bank - perhaps a set of LFPs (like
SimpliPhi).  He wants a set up where, when his Solar One batteries are full,
the excess voltage 'automatically' charges his secondary battery bank.  
 
I am wondering if a dump load controller would suffice (so when his Solar
One batteries are full, excess voltage is dumped to the secondary battery
bank), but I'm not getting much help from any manufacturers as to what might
work.  Any suggestions?
 
Best,
 
Chris Daum
Oasis Montana Inc.
406-777-4309 or 4321
406-777-4309 fax
www.oasismontana.com   
 
 
 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac Eco-Gen 6 kw

2018-11-12 Thread Chris Mason 
What's the error on the controller

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018, 00:49 John Blittersdorf  Hello Wrenches,
>I have a customer with a Generac EcoGen 6kw that starts and runs for
> about 30 seconds and then shuts down with high engine temp error. The
> engine is stone cold so it must be a temp sensor failure.  Disconnecting
> the sensor or jumpering the two leads together makes no difference. Has
> anyone seen this issue?  The engine runs real smooth until it shuts down.
>
> John Blittersdorf
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