Re: [RE-wrenches] Pika Support by chance?

[August Goers]

Hi Bill -

I completely agree with your statement about all off-grid applications.
Most if not all need generators. And, I do think there are some grid tied
applications where generators make sense too, especially for folks who live
way out in the woods as you mention. I was speaking about the mass market
in CA in cities or towns where the grid is typically fairly reliable. If
you install four Powerwalls, for example, you have up to 54 kWh of storage
available. There are applications where generators make sense, and all
these fires and smoke and heat waves prove the point. I think AC is
critical for some parts of the country, and energy storage + PV alone just
won't cut it for those critical applications.

But, yes, good point.

August




On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 2:33 PM frenergy  wrote:

> August,
>
> Quite frankly and with due respect about the comment about
> more PV and battery to forego the need for a generator, I disagree. Those
> folks living off-grid in the sticks (um,er, myself included), it would be a
> very bad thing not to have Gen input.  The current situation here in Plumas
> county  (and many other counties right now) is another perfect example.  It
> is so smokey that my daily KWhrs has been cut in half and of course every
> other off-grid home is having the same issue. This has been going on for
> almost a month with only occasional breaks.  There are also CC failures,
> FET board craps out, other excrement occurs.
>
> We all know there are many critical needs for power especially
> to run a pump for fire protection, frig for food, communication to know
> what the hell may coming your way during some event (fire, flood, bad
> weather) medical needs, etc.  In the winter there are at least a few times
> when there is little or no sun for 1 maybe 2 weeks...that gets to be a
> spendy array and battery.  Certainly, the idea of going that route works
> for some scenarios but not off-grid.  Generators are still a much needed
> necessary evil.  Maybe its a big deal to incorporate that feature in an
> inverter??  Sounds like bean counting.
>
> My $.02 worth
>
> Bill
>
> Feather River Solar Electric
> Bill Battagin, Owner
> 4291 Nelson St.
> Taylorsville, CA 95983
> 530.284.7849
> CA Lic 874049www.frenergy.net
>
> On 9/11/2020 1:01 PM, August Goers wrote:
>
> In CA the market for ESS is primarily grid tied support features driven by
> SGIP + backup (public safety power shutoffs, folks who live in less stable
> grid areas, folks worried about natural disasters) so the ESS is designed
> to replace generators. This might be a little trickier for areas that need
> air conditioning during a grid outage (or for all electric homes), but one
> tactic is just to go bigger with the ESS and PV system. I guess what I'm
> saying is that the value proposition might already be getting better just
> to skip the generator and go bigger with the storage. Even Generac might be
> going that route.
>
> August
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:52 AM Jason Szumlanski <
> ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:
>
>> We are seeing tons of companies in Florida offering Generac/Pika now.
>> They didn't do it when it was Pika, so why would they now that it has an
>> orange label? Crazy.
>>
>> No generator input makes zero sense and even less sense for a generator
>> manufacturer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM Chris Schaefer 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeremy,
>>> Pika was bought out by Generac and rebranded as their PWR cell. Most of
>>> the old crew from Pika are now working for Generac. It's beyond me that
>>> Generac bought them and yet they still don't have a generator input. That's
>>> why I could never sign on to the Pika product line. Good luck.
>>>
>>> Christopher
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:00 AM Jeremy Rodriguez <
>>> allsolarjer...@msn.com> wrote:
>>>
 If anyone has any info on how to get a hold of The former PIKA ENERGY
 support group, please contact me off list.
 Or if anyone knows where one could get one of their inverters
 rebuilt/repaired let me know.

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Pika Support by chance?

[Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar]

 I would just add that the reason there is a generator input, is for
when wildfire smoke, winter storms, and damage to the solar power system
occurs. More solar/storage might not do much good when smoke drops the
solar output by 80%. 

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On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:01:24 -0700, August Goers 
wrote:  In CA the market for ESS is primarily grid tied support features
driven by SGIP + backup (public safety power shutoffs, folks who live in
less stable grid areas, folks worried about natural disasters) so the ESS
is designed to replace generators. This might be a little trickier for
areas that need air conditioning during a grid outage (or for all electric
homes), but one tactic is just to go bigger with the ESS and PV system. I
guess what I'm saying is that the value proposition might already be
getting better just to skip the generator and go bigger with the storage.
Even Generac might be going that route.   August

  On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at
11:52 AM Jason Szumlanski  wrote:  We are seeing tons of companies in
Florida offering Generac/Pika now. They didn't do it when it was Pika, so
why would they now that it has an orange label? Crazy.No generator
input makes zero sense and even less sense for a generator manufacturer.   
   

  On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM Chris Schaefer  wrote: 
Jeremy, Pika was bought out by Generac and rebranded as their PWR cell.
Most of the old crew from Pika are now working for Generac. It's beyond me
that Generac bought them and yet they still don't have a generator input.
That's why I could never sign on to the Pika product line. Good luck.  
Christopher  
  On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:00 AM Jeremy Rodriguez  wrote: 
If anyone has any info on how to get a hold of The former PIKA ENERGY
support group, please contact me off list. Or if anyone knows where one
could get one of their inverters rebuilt/repaired let me know.

 Jeremy
Rodriguez Solar Installation / Design Expert   All Solar, Inc. 1463 M St

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Pika Support by chance?

[frenergy]

August,

            Quite frankly and with due respect about the comment about 
more PV and battery to forego the need for a generator, I disagree. 
Those folks living off-grid in the sticks (um,er, myself included), it 
would be a very bad thing not to have Gen input. The current situation 
here in Plumas county  (and many other counties right now) is another 
perfect example.  It is so smokey that my daily KWhrs has been cut in 
half and of course every other off-grid home is having the same issue. 
This has been going on for almost a month with only occasional breaks.  
There are also CC failures, FET board craps out, other excrement occurs.


        We all know there are many critical needs for power 
especially to run a pump for fire protection, frig for food, 
communication to know what the hell may coming your way during some 
event (fire, flood, bad weather) medical needs, etc.  In the winter 
there are at least a few times when there is little or no sun for 1 
maybe 2 weeks...that gets to be a spendy array and battery.  Certainly, 
the idea of going that route works for some scenarios but not off-grid.  
Generators are still a much needed necessary evil.  Maybe its a big deal 
to incorporate that feature in an inverter??  Sounds like bean counting.


My $.02 worth

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric
Bill Battagin, Owner
4291 Nelson St.
Taylorsville, CA 95983
530.284.7849
CA Lic 874049
www.frenergy.net

On 9/11/2020 1:01 PM, August Goers wrote:
In CA the market for ESS is primarily grid tied support features 
driven by SGIP + backup (public safety power shutoffs, folks who live 
in less stable grid areas, folks worried about natural disasters) so 
the ESS is designed to replace generators. This might be a little 
trickier for areas that need air conditioning during a grid outage (or 
for all electric homes), but one tactic is just to go bigger with the 
ESS and PV system. I guess what I'm saying is that the value 
proposition might already be getting better just to skip the generator 
and go bigger with the storage. Even Generac might be going that route.


August


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:52 AM Jason Szumlanski 
> wrote:


We are seeing tons of companies in Florida offering Generac/Pika
now. They didn't do it when it was Pika, so why would they now
that it has an orange label? Crazy.

No generator input makes zero sense and even less sense for a
generator manufacturer.

*


*


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM Chris Schaefer
mailto:ch...@solarandwindfx.com>> wrote:

Jeremy,
Pika was bought out by Generac and rebranded as their PWR
cell. Most of the old crew from Pika are now working for
Generac. It's beyond me that Generac bought them and yet they
still don't have a generator input. That's why I could never
sign on to the Pika product line. Good luck.

Christopher

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:00 AM Jeremy Rodriguez
mailto:allsolarjer...@msn.com>> wrote:

If anyone has any info on how to get a hold of The former
PIKA ENERGY support group, please contact me off list.
Or if anyone knows where one could get one of their
inverters rebuilt/repaired let me know.

Jeremy Rodriguez
Solar Installation / Design Expert
All Solar, Inc.
1463 M St
Penrose Colorado 81240

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Pika Support by chance?

[August Goers]

In CA the market for ESS is primarily grid tied support features driven by
SGIP + backup (public safety power shutoffs, folks who live in less stable
grid areas, folks worried about natural disasters) so the ESS is designed
to replace generators. This might be a little trickier for areas that need
air conditioning during a grid outage (or for all electric homes), but one
tactic is just to go bigger with the ESS and PV system. I guess what I'm
saying is that the value proposition might already be getting better just
to skip the generator and go bigger with the storage. Even Generac might be
going that route.

August


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:52 AM Jason Szumlanski <
ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:

> We are seeing tons of companies in Florida offering Generac/Pika now. They
> didn't do it when it was Pika, so why would they now that it has an orange
> label? Crazy.
>
> No generator input makes zero sense and even less sense for a generator
> manufacturer.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM Chris Schaefer 
> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy,
>> Pika was bought out by Generac and rebranded as their PWR cell. Most of
>> the old crew from Pika are now working for Generac. It's beyond me that
>> Generac bought them and yet they still don't have a generator input. That's
>> why I could never sign on to the Pika product line. Good luck.
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:00 AM Jeremy Rodriguez 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone has any info on how to get a hold of The former PIKA ENERGY
>>> support group, please contact me off list.
>>> Or if anyone knows where one could get one of their inverters
>>> rebuilt/repaired let me know.
>>>
>>> Jeremy Rodriguez
>>> Solar Installation / Design Expert
>>> All Solar, Inc.
>>> 1463 M St
>>> Penrose Colorado 81240
>>>
>>> Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand.
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Just a quick tip for those of you installing Enphase. I recently discovered 
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[RE-wrenches] Getting Enphase IQ Cable into J Boxes

[Jason Szumlanski]

Just a quick tip for those of you installing Enphase. I recently discovered
there is a Heyco connector for TWO Enphase IQ cables and a bare ground in a
single 3/4" knockout. This has saved us a bunch of time. The rubber gland
is prepunched, but you can also use it for a single IQ cable since it is
not punched all the way through.

Part number is M3234GDA-SM, available through Mouser, Rexel, anyone who
sells Heyco I would imagine.

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Pika Support by chance?

[Chris Mason]

THe reason they are offering it is probably that they already were Generac
dealers so adding this was an easy addition. Also, Generac is marketing
heavily to dealers now.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 2:52 PM Jason Szumlanski <
ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:

> We are seeing tons of companies in Florida offering Generac/Pika now. They
> didn't do it when it was Pika, so why would they now that it has an orange
> label? Crazy.
>
> No generator input makes zero sense and even less sense for a generator
> manufacturer.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM Chris Schaefer 
> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy,
>> Pika was bought out by Generac and rebranded as their PWR cell. Most of
>> the old crew from Pika are now working for Generac. It's beyond me that
>> Generac bought them and yet they still don't have a generator input. That's
>> why I could never sign on to the Pika product line. Good luck.
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:00 AM Jeremy Rodriguez 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone has any info on how to get a hold of The former PIKA ENERGY
>>> support group, please contact me off list.
>>> Or if anyone knows where one could get one of their inverters
>>> rebuilt/repaired let me know.
>>>
>>> Jeremy Rodriguez
>>> Solar Installation / Design Expert
>>> All Solar, Inc.
>>> 1463 M St
>>> Penrose Colorado 81240
>>>
>>> Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Pika Support by chance?

[Jason Szumlanski]

We are seeing tons of companies in Florida offering Generac/Pika now. They
didn't do it when it was Pika, so why would they now that it has an orange
label? Crazy.

No generator input makes zero sense and even less sense for a generator
manufacturer.





On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM Chris Schaefer 
wrote:

> Jeremy,
> Pika was bought out by Generac and rebranded as their PWR cell. Most of
> the old crew from Pika are now working for Generac. It's beyond me that
> Generac bought them and yet they still don't have a generator input. That's
> why I could never sign on to the Pika product line. Good luck.
>
> Christopher
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:00 AM Jeremy Rodriguez 
> wrote:
>
>> If anyone has any info on how to get a hold of The former PIKA ENERGY
>> support group, please contact me off list.
>> Or if anyone knows where one could get one of their inverters
>> rebuilt/repaired let me know.
>>
>> Jeremy Rodriguez
>> Solar Installation / Design Expert
>> All Solar, Inc.
>> 1463 M St
>> Penrose Colorado 81240
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Pika Support by chance?

[Chris Schaefer]

Jeremy,
Pika was bought out by Generac and rebranded as their PWR cell. Most of the
old crew from Pika are now working for Generac. It's beyond me that Generac
bought them and yet they still don't have a generator input. That's why I
could never sign on to the Pika product line. Good luck.

Christopher

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:00 AM Jeremy Rodriguez 
wrote:

> If anyone has any info on how to get a hold of The former PIKA ENERGY
> support group, please contact me off list.
> Or if anyone knows where one could get one of their inverters
> rebuilt/repaired let me know.
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> All Solar, Inc.
> 1463 M St
> Penrose Colorado 81240
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Admin posting: Sol-Ark on list

[Bryan Norkunas]

Always been curious, why limit to only one rep per OEM?



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-Original Message-
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Welch
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:57 PM
To: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Admin posting: Sol-Ark on list

Hi gang. If you have any questions or comments, please send them to me
off-list.

I've had several of you suggest to me off-list that Sol-Ark should have a
manufacturer's representative on the list. I agree.

On 8/28, one of their employees requested to be added. I responded with my
standard spiel but haven't heard back yet. Sometimes it takes awhile for
companies to decide who should be the rep, I just want to make sure they are
solid technically and not there to do promotion or marketing. 

I don't know if that person intends to follow through, though. I'm open to
suggestions about who to invite, but it's ultimately up to their tech dept.
to decide who they want. Whomever is OK with me as long as they fit our
criteria for manufacturers' reps, and their company is OK with that person. 

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[RE-wrenches] Pika Support by chance?

[Jeremy Rodriguez]

If anyone has any info on how to get a hold of The former PIKA ENERGY support 
group, please contact me off list.
Or if anyone knows where one could get one of their inverters rebuilt/repaired 
let me know.

Jeremy Rodriguez
Solar Installation / Design Expert
All Solar, Inc.
1463 M St
Penrose Colorado 81240

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[RE-wrenches] South west whisper 100/200 controller

[Jay Pozner]

Hi all,

I am trying to track down a Southwest wind whisper 100/200 controller.  If
anyone has one they want to sell at a reasonable price, please contact me
off the list.

Thanks

Jay Pozner
(970) 642-5554
www.nunatakenergy.com
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Cert.#031310-177
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