Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-24 Thread Peter Giroux 
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  Hi Jay,

  I'm with Daryl on this, except I'd say RUN AWAY, right now, no matter what. 
When a potential client in a problematic location starts dictating oddball 
terms right off the bat, that's more than just a problem with the contract. 
It's a telltale that something is wrong with the whole situation. It speaks to 
the attitude and motivation of the client. If they are that picky about the 
pricing they will pick you apart on everything you do. Most people are fine, 
but some clients are just born dissatisfied. Even if they suddenly agreed to 
all your terms I still wouldn't take the job.

  Best of luck,

  Hilton


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Missisquoi River Hydro
Renewable Energy Design


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[RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-24 Thread Hilton Dier III 

Hi Jay,

I'm with Daryl on this, except I'd say RUN AWAY, right now, no matter 
what. When a potential client in a problematic location starts dictating 
oddball terms right off the bat, that's more than just a problem with 
the contract. It's a telltale that something is wrong with the whole 
situation. It speaks to the attitude and motivation of the client. If 
they are that picky about the pricing they will pick you apart on 
everything you do. Most people are fine, but some clients are just born 
dissatisfied. Even if they suddenly agreed to all your terms I still 
wouldn't take the job.


Best of luck,

Hilton

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Missisquoi River Hydro
Renewable Energy Design

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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-24 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 
Not to mention that the Baja and the mainland are very different also. I
lived down there and did business for 10 years and so all of my knowledge
gained is probably very outdated 18 years later. It probably was old news
1 year later:) Use a shipping container!

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> The regulations for doing business in Mexico are
> intense. There are customs with organized
> corruption that make it necessary for someone to totally know the ropes.
>
> At 01:48 PM 1/23/2018, you wrote:
>>HI All, I’ve had a large company want to do a
>>project and they want me to invoice it as
>>follows.  They said it had to do with knowing
>>the cost of the system, but that doesn’t seem
>>right to me. Now I don’t want to get screwed
>>here, and it sure seems that could happen. I’m
>>pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I
>>feel like I needed to get a bit of a reality
>>check.  As I mostly do projects on a handshake,
>>dealing with large companies isn’t too common
>>for me. 1. give them wholesale pricing ( line
>>item by item) 2. add margin, but small one is
>>all they’ll accept Project is an off grid, no
>>permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty
>>big:  16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc. Thanks jay
>>peltz power
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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-24 Thread Drake 
The regulations for doing business in Mexico are 
intense. There are customs with organized 
corruption that make it necessary for someone to totally know the ropes.


At 01:48 PM 1/23/2018, you wrote:
HI All, I’ve had a large company want to do a 
project and they want me to invoice it as 
follows.  They said it had to do with knowing 
the cost of the system, but that doesn’t seem 
right to me. Now I don’t want to get screwed 
here, and it sure seems that could happen. I’m 
pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I 
feel like I needed to get a bit of a reality 
check.  As I mostly do projects on a handshake, 
dealing with large companies isn’t too common 
for me. 1. give them wholesale pricing ( line 
item by item) 2. add margin, but small one is 
all they’ll accept Project is an off grid, no 
permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty 
big:  16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc. Thanks jay 
peltz power 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread jay 
wow, such great information I’ve gotten from you all.

It all seems pretty clear that this cost + is quite unusual, and I take to 
heart what you have said.
As an aside, pretty unusual to have almost unanimous opinions here on the 
wrenches, no?

FYI, I”ve done many systems in Baja and I get paid 100% in advance before 
anything ships.  To either the end user here in the states or to a freight 
forwarder.  Yes once it reaches them, I no longer have control.  And the client 
is responsible for any damage enroute in MX.  Yea lots of weird stuff happens 
down there!

OK now I’ve got to contact their money guy.

Thanks again all,

jay





> On Jan 23, 2018, at 2:24 PM, penobscotso...@midmaine.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Jay,
>   My advice is walk away unless they want to meet your terms. You will
> save yourself a tremendous amount of trouble/waiting/lost sleep/lost
> money. I do 50% of my business internationally, mostly in the
> Caribbean. If they do not accept my very reasonable terms (prepay for
> all materials, 50% labor due upon the start of the project, balance due
> on completion) they are highly unlikely to be on the up and up with
> you.
>   As best possible, deal with known entities, take deposits through wire
> transfers to your account and do not put yourself in a position to be
> taken advantage of in a way that you cannot afford. If they want
> quality, they must understand they have to pay for it. I have designed
> six systems over the past fifteen years in Mexico and not one has come
> to fruition. It was my time wasted, but nothing else.
> 
> Daryl DeJoy
> www.penobscotsolar.com
> www.islandsolarbahamas.com
> 
> 
> 
>> Pre-build it in a shipping container here! Have them pay for it all and
>> inspect before shipment. They can keep a small portion for your final
>> labor, travel, and expenses in a 2-way escrow account. When you are safely
>> home you get the final amount and they get back an amount that is more
>> than the amount you received. It is not cheap to set something like this
>> up so collect a fee at the start!
>> 
>> You have to do something to protect your most valuable treasure!
>> 
>> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
>> "we go where powerlines don't"
>> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
>> e-mail  offgridso...@sti.net
>> text 209 813 0060
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread penobscotsolar 
Hi Jay,
   My advice is walk away unless they want to meet your terms. You will
save yourself a tremendous amount of trouble/waiting/lost sleep/lost
money. I do 50% of my business internationally, mostly in the
Caribbean. If they do not accept my very reasonable terms (prepay for
all materials, 50% labor due upon the start of the project, balance due
on completion) they are highly unlikely to be on the up and up with
you.
   As best possible, deal with known entities, take deposits through wire
transfers to your account and do not put yourself in a position to be
taken advantage of in a way that you cannot afford. If they want
quality, they must understand they have to pay for it. I have designed
six systems over the past fifteen years in Mexico and not one has come
to fruition. It was my time wasted, but nothing else.

Daryl DeJoy
www.penobscotsolar.com
www.islandsolarbahamas.com



> Pre-build it in a shipping container here! Have them pay for it all and
> inspect before shipment. They can keep a small portion for your final
> labor, travel, and expenses in a 2-way escrow account. When you are safely
> home you get the final amount and they get back an amount that is more
> than the amount you received. It is not cheap to set something like this
> up so collect a fee at the start!
>
> You have to do something to protect your most valuable treasure!
>
> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
> "we go where powerlines don't"
> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
> e-mail  offgridso...@sti.net
> text 209 813 0060
>
>
>
>
>> Ho Jay,
>>
>> I’d be extremely careful.
>>
>> First with your pricing, don’t forgive some of your legitimate costs.
>> Add Shipping & Handling and taxes to all equipment purchases. Carefully
>> estimate your labor costs, travel to Mexico, shipping across the border
>> to
>> Mexico. Are there any import costs? What will be other “costs of doing
>> business”?
>>
>> Second, you know what it costs to run your business. Add the appropriate
>> overhead and general and administrative costs. Office staff and your
>> salary; insurance; and other indirect costs. You might tell them what
>> your
>> indirect cost schedule is (e.g. 15% on PV panels, inverters,  batteries
>> and any other hardware; 10% on wages and other fees), and if they
>> don’t
>> agree, decline to do business with them.
>>
>> Third, I’d set up a progress payment schedule. Arrange for payment in
>> in
>> $US bank draft (be careful of bogus bank drafts) or other form of
>> payment
>> you are confortable with.
>>
>> Fourth, does your existing insurance policies cover equipment and auto
>> theft (in Mexico)? Get a rider if it doesn’t.
>>
>> Fifth, don’t provide them with any design information prior to signing
>> a
>> contract.
>>
>> Peter T. Parrish
>> SolarGnosis
>> 1107 Fair Oaks Ave. Ste. 351
>> South Pasadena, CA 91030
>> (323) 839-6108
>> peter.parr...@solargnosis.com
>>
>> From: jay
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 11:44 AM
>> To: RE-wrenches
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?
>>
>>
>> HI All,
>>
>> I’ve had a large company want to do a project and they want me to
>> invoice it as follows.  They said it had to do with knowing the cost of
>> the system, but that doesn’t seem right to me. Now I don’t want to
>> get
>> screwed here, and it sure seems that could happen.
>>
>> I’m pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I feel like I needed
>> to get a bit of a reality check.
>> As I mostly do projects on a handshake, dealing with large companies
>> isn’t too common for me.
>>
>>
>> 1. give them wholesale pricing ( line item by item)
>> 2. add margin, but small one is all they’ll accept
>>
>> Project is an off grid, no permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty
>> big:
>>  16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> jay
>>
>> peltz power
>>
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 
Pre-build it in a shipping container here! Have them pay for it all and
inspect before shipment. They can keep a small portion for your final
labor, travel, and expenses in a 2-way escrow account. When you are safely
home you get the final amount and they get back an amount that is more
than the amount you received. It is not cheap to set something like this
up so collect a fee at the start!

You have to do something to protect your most valuable treasure!

Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
e-mail  offgridso...@sti.net
text 209 813 0060




> Ho Jay,
>
> I’d be extremely careful.
>
> First with your pricing, don’t forgive some of your legitimate costs.
> Add Shipping & Handling and taxes to all equipment purchases. Carefully
> estimate your labor costs, travel to Mexico, shipping across the border to
> Mexico. Are there any import costs? What will be other “costs of doing
> business”?
>
> Second, you know what it costs to run your business. Add the appropriate
> overhead and general and administrative costs. Office staff and your
> salary; insurance; and other indirect costs. You might tell them what your
> indirect cost schedule is (e.g. 15% on PV panels, inverters,  batteries
> and any other hardware; 10% on wages and other fees), and if they don’t
> agree, decline to do business with them.
>
> Third, I’d set up a progress payment schedule. Arrange for payment in in
> $US bank draft (be careful of bogus bank drafts) or other form of payment
> you are confortable with.
>
> Fourth, does your existing insurance policies cover equipment and auto
> theft (in Mexico)? Get a rider if it doesn’t.
>
> Fifth, don’t provide them with any design information prior to signing a
> contract.
>
> Peter T. Parrish
> SolarGnosis
> 1107 Fair Oaks Ave. Ste. 351
> South Pasadena, CA 91030
> (323) 839-6108
> peter.parr...@solargnosis.com
>
> From: jay
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 11:44 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?
>
>
> HI All,
>
> I’ve had a large company want to do a project and they want me to
> invoice it as follows.  They said it had to do with knowing the cost of
> the system, but that doesn’t seem right to me. Now I don’t want to get
> screwed here, and it sure seems that could happen.
>
> I’m pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I feel like I needed
> to get a bit of a reality check.
> As I mostly do projects on a handshake, dealing with large companies
> isn’t too common for me.
>
>
> 1. give them wholesale pricing ( line item by item)
> 2. add margin, but small one is all they’ll accept
>
> Project is an off grid, no permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty big:
>  16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
>
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread Peter Parrish 
Ho Jay,

I’d be extremely careful.

First with your pricing, don’t forgive some of your legitimate costs. Add 
Shipping & Handling and taxes to all equipment purchases. Carefully estimate 
your labor costs, travel to Mexico, shipping across the border to Mexico. Are 
there any import costs? What will be other “costs of doing business”?

Second, you know what it costs to run your business. Add the appropriate 
overhead and general and administrative costs. Office staff and your salary; 
insurance; and other indirect costs. You might tell them what your indirect 
cost schedule is (e.g. 15% on PV panels, inverters,  batteries and any other 
hardware; 10% on wages and other fees), and if they don’t agree, decline to do 
business with them.

Third, I’d set up a progress payment schedule. Arrange for payment in in $US 
bank draft (be careful of bogus bank drafts) or other form of payment you are 
confortable with.

Fourth, does your existing insurance policies cover equipment and auto theft 
(in Mexico)? Get a rider if it doesn’t.

Fifth, don’t provide them with any design information prior to signing a 
contract. 

Peter T. Parrish
SolarGnosis
1107 Fair Oaks Ave. Ste. 351
South Pasadena, CA 91030
(323) 839-6108
peter.parr...@solargnosis.com

From: jay
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 11:44 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?


HI All,

I’ve had a large company want to do a project and they want me to invoice it as 
follows.  They said it had to do with knowing the cost of the system, but that 
doesn’t seem right to me. Now I don’t want to get screwed here, and it sure 
seems that could happen.

I’m pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I feel like I needed to get a 
bit of a reality check.  
As I mostly do projects on a handshake, dealing with large companies isn’t too 
common for me.


1. give them wholesale pricing ( line item by item)
2. add margin, but small one is all they’ll accept

Project is an off grid, no permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty big:  
16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc.

Thanks

jay

peltz power


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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread Peter Giroux 

Jay

   Thank you but no thank you might be the best answer. Mexico can be a 
tough place to do business and potentially dangerous depending on where the 
project might be.


 They will have a contract that is written FOR THEM, not for you. Seller 
beware.


peter Giroux
American Solar
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From: "jay" 

To: "RE-wrenches" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?




HI All,

I’ve had a large company want to do a project and they want me to invoice 
it as follows.  They said it had to do with knowing the cost of the 
system, but that doesn’t seem right to me. Now I don’t want to get screwed 
here, and it sure seems that could happen.


I’m pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I feel like I needed to 
get a bit of a reality check.
As I mostly do projects on a handshake, dealing with large companies isn’t 
too common for me.



1. give them wholesale pricing ( line item by item)
2. add margin, but small one is all they’ll accept

Project is an off grid, no permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty big: 
16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc.


Thanks

jay

peltz power


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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread Darryl Thayer 
I had it happen two ways, one asked for more and more details which i gave
then they shopped my design out to another installer.  The other time when
the job was done they refused to pay mark up and said my labor was to high
and said take it or leave it.

On Jan 23, 2018 1:44 PM, "jay"  wrote:

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> HI All,
>
> I’ve had a large company want to do a project and they want me to invoice
> it as follows.  They said it had to do with knowing the cost of the system,
> but that doesn’t seem right to me. Now I don’t want to get screwed here,
> and it sure seems that could happen.
>
> I’m pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I feel like I needed to
> get a bit of a reality check.
> As I mostly do projects on a handshake, dealing with large companies isn’t
> too common for me.
>
>
> 1. give them wholesale pricing ( line item by item)
> 2. add margin, but small one is all they’ll accept
>
> Project is an off grid, no permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty
> big:  16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread Chris Mason 
I've done this once because the client had duty free concessions, he had to
have the manufacturer's invoices. I quoted him Cost plus 20 for the
materials plus a labour fee and a management fee.
He took the quote and I never heard from him again, guess he tried to buy
the goods at the same cost.
One way around this is to explain that you have confidential pricing and
giving that to them would break that agreement.
On the other hand, I work with a large company that handled the shipping
and brokerage, so they had to get my supplier invoices. But, and this may
work for you, I first signed a Per-Watt contract with them, so what they
seen afterwards didn't make any difference.
You can always edit the invoices to make them higher.



On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 2:48 PM, jay  wrote:

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> HI All,
>
> I’ve had a large company want to do a project and they want me to invoice
> it as follows.  They said it had to do with knowing the cost of the system,
> but that doesn’t seem right to me. Now I don’t want to get screwed here,
> and it sure seems that could happen.
>
> I’m pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I feel like I needed to
> get a bit of a reality check.
> As I mostly do projects on a handshake, dealing with large companies isn’t
> too common for me.
>
>
> 1. give them wholesale pricing ( line item by item)
> 2. add margin, but small one is all they’ll accept
>
> Project is an off grid, no permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty
> big:  16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread Jerry Shafer 
Jay
We dont ask that and if we did we would get an ear full. However in the
past with government projects they ask, l have heard different reasons why.
But it in Mexico so anything could be required
Jerry

On Jan 23, 2018 11:44 AM, "jay"  wrote:

>
> HI All,
>
> I’ve had a large company want to do a project and they want me to invoice
> it as follows.  They said it had to do with knowing the cost of the system,
> but that doesn’t seem right to me. Now I don’t want to get screwed here,
> and it sure seems that could happen.
>
> I’m pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I feel like I needed to
> get a bit of a reality check.
> As I mostly do projects on a handshake, dealing with large companies isn’t
> too common for me.
>
>
> 1. give them wholesale pricing ( line item by item)
> 2. add margin, but small one is all they’ll accept
>
> Project is an off grid, no permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty
> big:  16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems 
jay,

My view: My cost is no ones business but mine. You either pay what I charge for 
materials and labor or go elsewhere. FYI, with that position I still have a 
continual 1-2 month waiting list of people waiting to pay for our services.

Being on the Mexico border, I’ve had a few developers contact me for large PV 
solar power systems for RV parks and small communities in Mexico. They want 
quotes and lots of info; lots of my time. A few years ago I decided to charge a 
large refundable consulting fee to discuss any details for systems like that. 
No takers. And, these projects never get done either as they were just 
fantasies to begin with.


Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems






On Jan 23, 2018, at 11:48 AM, jay  wrote:


HI All,

I’ve had a large company want to do a project and they want me to invoice it as 
follows.  They said it had to do with knowing the cost of the system, but that 
doesn’t seem right to me. Now I don’t want to get screwed here, and it sure 
seems that could happen.

I’m pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I feel like I needed to get a 
bit of a reality check.  
As I mostly do projects on a handshake, dealing with large companies isn’t too 
common for me.


1. give them wholesale pricing ( line item by item)
2. add margin, but small one is all they’ll accept

Project is an off grid, no permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty big:  
16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc.

Thanks

jay

peltz power



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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread Wayne Irwin 
We do international shipping fairly often and always require prepayment.

It can be difficult to do international wire transfers so we offer PayPal as an 
option and add on the "convenience fee".


Don't ship without payment you have no way to get it back once it's gone.


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From: RE-wrenches  on behalf of RE 
Ellison 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:57 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

Sounds like a shaft but no mine involved !

Can you get your money and have it clear before it ships ?

I understand that doesn’t even work with credit cards and a bogus cashiers 
check is a possibility

Just some thoughts,
Bob

> On Jan 23, 2018, at 1:48 PM, jay  wrote:
>
>
> HI All,
>
> I’ve had a large company want to do a project and they want me to invoice it 
> as follows.  They said it had to do with knowing the cost of the system, but 
> that doesn’t seem right to me. Now I don’t want to get screwed here, and it 
> sure seems that could happen.
>
> I’m pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I feel like I needed to get 
> a bit of a reality check.
> As I mostly do projects on a handshake, dealing with large companies isn’t 
> too common for me.
>
>
> 1. give them wholesale pricing ( line item by item)
> 2. add margin, but small one is all they’ll accept
>
> Project is an off grid, no permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty big:  
> 16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread RE Ellison 
Sounds like a shaft but no mine involved !

Can you get your money and have it clear before it ships ?

I understand that doesn’t even work with credit cards and a bogus cashiers 
check is a possibility

Just some thoughts,
Bob

> On Jan 23, 2018, at 1:48 PM, jay  wrote:
> 
> 
> HI All,
> 
> I’ve had a large company want to do a project and they want me to invoice it 
> as follows.  They said it had to do with knowing the cost of the system, but 
> that doesn’t seem right to me. Now I don’t want to get screwed here, and it 
> sure seems that could happen.
> 
> I’m pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I feel like I needed to get 
> a bit of a reality check.  
> As I mostly do projects on a handshake, dealing with large companies isn’t 
> too common for me.
> 
> 
> 1. give them wholesale pricing ( line item by item)
> 2. add margin, but small one is all they’ll accept
> 
> Project is an off grid, no permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty big:  
> 16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> jay
> 
> peltz power
> 
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[RE-wrenches] has anyone ever had this happen?

2018-01-23 Thread jay 

HI All,

I’ve had a large company want to do a project and they want me to invoice it as 
follows.  They said it had to do with knowing the cost of the system, but that 
doesn’t seem right to me. Now I don’t want to get screwed here, and it sure 
seems that could happen.

I’m pretty sure I know what you all will say, but I feel like I needed to get a 
bit of a reality check.  
As I mostly do projects on a handshake, dealing with large companies isn’t too 
common for me.


1. give them wholesale pricing ( line item by item)
2. add margin, but small one is all they’ll accept

Project is an off grid, no permits, in Mexico, remote site and pretty big:  
16kw inverter, 9kw PV, etc.

Thanks

jay

peltz power


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