[REBOL] Re: VID Extension Kit
Sorry Maxim, In my list of useful add-ons or available replacements for the current VID, I forgot to mention your Glayout addition. I just never took the time yet to play seriously with it. This has to come in next months. Thanks, Gerard PS. Tim, Your approach is safe and many of us have thought of doing the same way but not necessary for the same reasons In my case it was the limitations of the GUI toolset (and my own limited knowledgeof VDI internals) that drove me to look for alternatives I knew about == -- Gérard Côté Québec, Canada -- To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: VID Extension Kit
2009/8/29 Henrik Mikael Kristensen > Hi HenriK, What a nice contribution. Many of us missed such a VID GUI ADD-ON toolset. Many new useful features and better overall use added. Would like to see some Tree like display but already having a true scrollbar that works like in others GUI systems is awesome. Didn't look to see if it already exists. Hope there will be some similar tool set for R3 so that what we'll learn here will be reusable... Do you know about Carls plans for the new R3 VID? Will there be some similarities ? I really didn't follow discussions about the new R3 GUI on Altme. May be I should read them before asking. One first comment : The below start address is OK but it differs from the one that is included in the preliminary doc. I really asks myself if the Key formatter could not be used as some kind of Intelligent Coder Helper a bit like the Viva REBOL project plans to do. That is when coding some REBOL sentence the entry point could start, on demand, a selective help that would display in a pop-up the list of parameters (drawn directly from REBOL's reflection property of the language) Some DSL coudl be required to do so like an intelligent assistant would do for the programmer but nevertheless it could be a rich add-on towards a complete intelligent IDE and/or dev framework. It's the most interesting thing I saw since RebGui and the Vive-REBOL project to help better support and then promote the use of REBOL itself for more advanced GUI dev... Thanks. I can help you to test it and report (in the format you want - like in codecure for example) what has to be reworked if you need to. Do you have such a list of known bugs to prevent that you received many times the same items ? Do you know if Carl has some plan to correct the known low-level bugs for R2 in the future, when R3 up and running and more free time comes by ? When you are ready let me know. Regards, Gerard = > Try it out at: > > http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/vid/src/vid-ext-kit.r > > A simple style browser is available at: > > http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/vid/tools/style-browser.r > > Very preliminary docs at: > > http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/vid/docs/vid-extension-kit.html > > I'll release the full sources later, but have a look and see what you > think. Remember to ask questions. > > -- > Regards, > Henrik Mikael Kristensen > -- > To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to > lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- Gérard Côté Québec, Canada -- To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: VID Extension Kit
* david may [090829 13:14]: > > do many people use it today ?, or are most people on the net still > advocating and writing Python or indeed anything But rebol for their > and the majority of average peoples GUI video related scripting needs > today! I prefer rebol for much of what I do - but read on: Not meant to be an argument but a statement of policy. My company's mission statement is about open source. Based on the more proprietory nature of the vid dialect, I have never used rebol/view. in the 10 years that I have been programming in rebol. Just rebol/core. My partner and I have agreed that we will use open source libraries for GUI applications. Therefore, it is in our agreement that he (primarily a perl programmer) and I (rebol, python, newlisp, javascript) will use (as an example TKinter). And we've done precious little of that since we have found (for our work) that html and javascript and CGI can do what we need to do for our customers, in terms of interfaces. I have no argument with the rebol components that are closed source. That is Carl Sassenrath's Business plan :) and that's his business. But my business is with Open Source as much as is possible. I can recall some pretty spirited ( :) but never mean-spirited) exchanges on the topic of Open Source here on this ML. I'm just happy to have rebol for the uses that I put it to. It is a thing of beauty. regards. -- Tim t...@johnsons-web.com http://www.akwebsoft.com -- To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: VID Extension Kit
Hello Henrik, Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:17:57 PM, you wrote: > This will be quick and dirty: > The VID Extension Kit for R2: > This is a library that overhauls VID and the styles to improve the > experience in using it and creating bigger programs with it. This is > very much a work in progress, but if I continue to keep it under > wraps, I'll never get it out. :-) > Quick feature list: > - Full tab navigation > - Field validation and autoformatting > - Full resizing > - Many new flags > - Much better face control: disabling/enabling faces, different > setting and getting of panels, complex face navigation > - Many new styles: Selectors, balancers, lists, fields, panels, > scrollers, iterators > - Many VID bugs are fixed, although the impossible ones still remain > - Many new VID bugs are introduced as well :-) Some styles are not working. > Try it out at: > http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/vid/src/vid-ext-kit.r > A simple style browser is available at: > http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/vid/tools/style-browser.r > Very preliminary docs at: > http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/vid/docs/vid-extension-kit.html > I'll release the full sources later, but have a look and see what you > think. Remember to ask questions. > -- > Regards, > Henrik Mikael Kristensen very nice Henrik. do many people use it today ?, or are most people on the net still advocating and writing Python or indeed anything But rebol for their and the majority of average peoples GUI video related scripting needs today! its a shame no one capable or willing so far was to take the likes the complimentary Video related (see most non rebol people see 'VID' and assume video related API options) display wrappers like The Old Kaa Media python modules Repository and translate it, or refactor it for the rebol modules use. i was even surprised the other day when it turns out GUI creators are still using the old Amiga Gui4Cli interpreter and its scripts ported to windows for their GUI Encoder needs today rather than Rebol View, and they have a large user base using that GUI to multi cross platform Encoders app today. http://doc.freevo.org/2.0/Kaa "The Kaa Media Repository is a set of python modules related to media. Kaa modules are based on parts from Freevo and modules created for MeBox. Kaa exists to encourage code sharing between these projects, and to serve as an umbrella for several previously disparate media-related modules in order to make them available from one (unique) namespace. Kaa provides a base module that implements the common features needed for application development, such as mainloop management, timers, signals, callbacks, file descriptor monitors, etc. Kaa's other modules provide specific media-related functionality, such as retrieving metadata on arbitrary media files (kaa.metadata, previously called mmpython), Python wrappers for Imlib2, Xine, and Evas, and many other high level APIs for easily creating applications that deal with video and audio. Kaa is named after the python character in the Jungle Book by Rudyard Kipling. " -- Best regards, davidmailto:david.ma...@ntlworld.com -- To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] VID Extension Kit
This will be quick and dirty: The VID Extension Kit for R2: This is a library that overhauls VID and the styles to improve the experience in using it and creating bigger programs with it. This is very much a work in progress, but if I continue to keep it under wraps, I'll never get it out. :-) Quick feature list: - Full tab navigation - Field validation and autoformatting - Full resizing - Many new flags - Much better face control: disabling/enabling faces, different setting and getting of panels, complex face navigation - Many new styles: Selectors, balancers, lists, fields, panels, scrollers, iterators - Many VID bugs are fixed, although the impossible ones still remain - Many new VID bugs are introduced as well :-) Some styles are not working. Try it out at: http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/vid/src/vid-ext-kit.r A simple style browser is available at: http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/vid/tools/style-browser.r Very preliminary docs at: http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/vid/docs/vid-extension-kit.html I'll release the full sources later, but have a look and see what you think. Remember to ask questions. -- Regards, Henrik Mikael Kristensen -- To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject.
