New Esbeck Article on SSRN

2007-06-13 Thread Greg Baylor
Professor Carl Esbeck of the University of Missouri School of Law has
published a new article entitled When Accommodations for Religion Violate
the Establishment Clause: Regularizing the Supreme Court's Analysis.  It is
available on SSRN at the following URL:

http://ssrn.com/abstract=992885

Greg Baylor

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Article re 60th Anniversary of Everson

2007-05-10 Thread Greg Baylor
Professor Carl Esbeck of the University of Missouri School of Law has
published an article examining the six decades of Establishment Clause
jurisprudence since Everson.

The article is entitled, The 60th Anniversary of the Everson Decision and
America's Church-State Proposition.

The abstract is on SSRN:

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=984926

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Christian Legal Society Center for Law Religious Freedom Launches Blog

2007-05-05 Thread Greg Baylor
The CLS Center has joined the blogosphere:

http://religiousfreedom.blogspot.com/

Recent posts address things like ENDA's religious exemption, academic
articles about health care conscience rights, and a lawsuit over school
distribution of fliers to students.

Comments welcome. 

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California Supreme Court Decision in Tax-Exempt Bond Finance Case

2007-03-09 Thread Greg Baylor
Earlier this week, the California Supreme Court issued a decision in
California Statewide Communities Development Authority v. All Persons
Interested.  The opinion is available on the web at
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S124195.PDF

The lower courts had concluded that article XVI, section 5 of the California
Constitution (sometimes called California's Blaine Amendment) forbid the
agency (CSCDA) from issuing tax-exempt bonds for construction projects at
Azusa Pacific University, California Baptist University, and the Oaks
Christian School if such schools were pervasively sectarian.  By a 4-3
vote, the state supreme court held that a school's eligibility for
tax-exempt bond finance does *not* turn on whether it is pervasively
sectarian.  It remanded the case back to the lower courts for further
proceedings.  [The dissenters concluded that the proposed bond issues were
plainly unconstitutional and that remand was unnecessary.]

The supreme court instructed the lower courts to ask two questions in
determining the constitutionality of the proposed bond issues:  (1) whether
the schools offer a broad curriculum in secular subjects; and (2) whether
the schools' secular classes consist of information and coursework that is
neutral with respect to religion.  

In discussing the neutrality requirement, the court invoked Establishment
Clause cases requiring religious neutrality in various settings, including
Epperson v. Arkansas and McCreary County v. ACLU.  At the same time, the
court said that the expression of a religious viewpoint in otherwise
secular classes held in financed buildings would not render the bond issue
unconstitutional.

I am particularly interested in whether other subscribers believe whether a
bond issuing agency would violate the federal constitution if it denied a
religious school access to conduit financing on the ground that its secular
classes are NOT neutral with respect to religion.

Federal and state tax codes exempt from income tax the interest earned on
government-issued bonds.  Government agencies issue bonds for the benefit of
a huge variety of entities, including for-profit industrial enterprises,
housing facilities, airports, hospitals, and schools.  Because the investors
don't pay tax on the interest they earn, they are willing to accept a lower
rate of return.  This benefits the borrowers, who pay a lower interest rate.
Of course, government tax revenues are lower than they otherwise might be.

Given the indirect nature of the government benefit to religious schools, is
California justified in requiring religious neutrality in financed
buildings?  Or is this an unjustifiable viewpoint discriminatory condition
on an otherwise available benefit?

Greg Baylor

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Esbeck Article re Play in the Joints

2006-10-09 Thread Greg Baylor



I thought list members might be interested in 
this:


Carl H. Esbeck, Play in the Joints Between the Religion Clauses and 
Other Supreme Court Catachreses, 34 Hofstra L. Rev. 1331 
(2006). http://ssrn.com/abstract=934410

Abstract: 
Consistent with its fumbling of late when dealing with cases involving religion, 
the U.S. Supreme Court has taken to reciting the metaphor of play in the joints 
between the Religion Clauses. This manner of framing the issue before the 
Court presumes that the Free Exercise and Establishment Clauses run in opposing 
directions, and indeed will often conflict. It then becomes the Courts 
task, as it sees it, to determine if the law in question falls safely in the 
narrows where there is space for legislative action neither compelled by the 
Free Exercise Clause nor prohibited by the Establishment Clause. This 
conception that the free-exercise and no-establishment texts are in frequent 
tension, and at times are in outright war with one another, is quite 
impossible. Each substantive clause in the first eight amendments to the 
Bill of Rights was designed to anticipate and negate the assumption of certain 
powers by the national governmenta government already understood to be one of 
limited, enumerated powers. Thus, for example, the free-speech clause 
further limited national power and the free-press clause did so as well. 
These two negatives on powerspeech and presscan overlap and thus reinforce one 
another but they cannot conflict. Simply put, it is logically impossible 
for two negations of a governments delegated power to conflict. 
Similarly, the free-exercise provision further restricted the nations powers 
and no-establishment did likewise. These two negatives can overlap and 
thereby doubly deny the field of permissible governmental action, but they 
cannot conflict. To be sure, each clause in its own way works to protect 
religious freedom. And when circumstances are such that the scope of the 
clauses overlap, they necessarily compliment rather than conflict with each 
other. However, the Courts imagining these two negations of governmental 
power as frequently clashing is at a conceptual level simply not possible.


Gregory S. BaylorDirector, Center for Law  Religious 
FreedomChristian Legal Society8001 Braddock Road, Suite 
300Springfield, VA 22151(703) 642-1070 x 3502(703) 642-1075 
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Decision in Wisconsin State Employee Charitable Campaign Case

2006-10-03 Thread Greg Baylor
I thought list members might be interested in knowing that a federal
district in Wisconsin held last Friday that state officials violated the
Constitution by denying certain religious charities access to their state
employee charitable campaign.  Access to the campaign was conditioned on
compliance with a rule banning religious discrimination in choosing
employees and members of the governing board.

The case is Association of Faith-Based Organizations v. Bablitch, W.D. Wis
No. 06-C-175-S.  The opinion is online at
http://www.wiwd.uscourts.gov/bcgi-bin/opinions/district_opinions/C/06/06-C-1
75-S-09-29-06.PDF.

The court held that it was unreasonable under the circumstances for
Wisconsin to exclude these religious charities from the campaign.  The court
distinguished the Second Circuit's decision in Boy Scouts v. Wyman.

My organization represents the plaintiff in the case.

Greg Baylor

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RE: 4th Circuit rules (again) in favor of the Good News Club

2006-08-11 Thread Greg Baylor



CLS did not take a 
position in the Wiccan case.

Greg Baylor

Gregory S. BaylorDirector, Center for Law  Religious 
FreedomChristian Legal Society8001 Braddock Road, Suite 
300Springfield, VA 22151(703) 642-1070 x 3502(703) 642-1075 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:59 
AMTo: religionlaw@lists.ucla.eduSubject: Re: 4th Circuit 
rules (again) in favor of the Good News Club


I ask the following question for edification-- How does 
one square this decision with the 4th Cir's willingness to permit the Wiccan 
woman to be excluded from delivering prayers at city council meetings? I'm 
blanking on the name of the latter case, but it would seem that equality is at 
issue in both cases, and the results would seem at first blush in conflict with 
each other. 

And what position did CLS take on the Wiccan case, if any?

Marci


Marci A. Hamilton
Paul R. Verkuil Chair in Public Law
Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law
Yeshiva University



This is the case's second 
  trip to the 4th Circuit, and once again thecourt invalidates the 
  Montgomery County School District's variousmachinations to prevent the 
  Good News Club access on equal terms to theforum of take-home flyers given 
  to the students. 
  http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/051508.P.pdf


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RE: 4th Circuit rules (again) in favor of the Good News Club

2006-08-11 Thread Greg Baylor



This dispute has been to the Fourth Circuit 
twice.

In the first appeal, Americans United for Separation of 
Church and State, the ACLU of the National Capitol Area, the ACLU Foundation of 
Maryland, the Anti-Defamation League, People for the American Way, the National 
Education Association, the National School Boards Association, the Maryland 
Association of Boards of Education, the National Parent Teacher Association, the 
American Association of School Administrators,and Montgomery Soccer filed 
amicus briefs supporting Montgomery County Public Schools.

In the second appeal, the National School Boards 
Association and the Maryland Association of Boards of Education filed an amicus 
brief supporting the school district.

Greg Baylor

Gregory S. BaylorDirector, Center for Law  Religious 
FreedomChristian Legal Society8001 Braddock Road, Suite 
300Springfield, VA 22151(703) 642-1070 x 3502(703) 642-1075 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed 
BraytonSent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:21 AMTo: Law  
Religion issues for Law AcademicsSubject: Re: 4th Circuit rules 
(again) in favor of the Good News Club
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  
  
  I ask the following question for edification-- How does 
  one square this decision with the 4th Cir's willingness to permit the Wiccan 
  woman to be excluded from delivering prayers at city council meetings? 
  I'm blanking on the name of the latter case, but it would seem that equality 
  is at issue in both cases, and the results would seem at first blush in 
  conflict with each other. 
  
  And what position did CLS take on the Wiccan case, if 
  any?Excellent question. One might add another: 
what position did the ACLU and/or Americans United take in this most recent 
case? There might well be hypocrisy on both sides of this one. The earlier case 
you're referring to was Simpson v Chesterfield Co. Board of Supervisors. That 
ruling can be found at http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/041045.P.pdf. 
It appears at first blush that the court did not even consider the 
question of this being a public forum of any kind, and looked primarily at Marsh 
v Chambers as the controlling precedent. From that ruling:The parties 
here differ as to which lines of precedent govern thiscase. Simpson rejects 
the Countys argument that the principles ofMarsh v. Chambers suffice to 
resolve the dispute. She instead offers,and the district court accepted, 
Larson v. Valente, 456 U.S. 228(1982) (finding "denominational preference" 
to violate the EstablishmentClause), as well as Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 
602, 612-13(1971) (creating a general framework to evaluate 
EstablishmentClause challenges). We think her reliance on these cases is 
misplacedand conclude that Marsh v. Chambers controls the outcome of 
thiscase.The court went on to note that Marsh was more on point and 
that it post dated both Larson and Lemon, and the court did not apply either of 
those cases in March. So it appears that the plaintiffs did not raise the public 
forum issue and the court did not consider it. Ed 
Brayton
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RE: 4th Circuit rules (again) in favor of the Good News Club

2006-08-11 Thread Greg Baylor



The first appeal addressed (and resolved)the question 
whether school distribution of Good News Club fliers violated the Establishment 
Clause. The second appeal did not, instead focusing on whether MCPS's 
somewhat peculiar new flier distribution policy violated the Free Speech 
Clause. I suspect that this explains why numerous groups participated in 
the first but not the second appeal.

Greg Baylor
CLS


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed 
BraytonSent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:41 PMTo: Law  
Religion issues for Law AcademicsSubject: Re: 4th Circuit rules 
(again) in favor of the Good News Club
Greg Baylor wrote: 

  
  This dispute has been to the Fourth Circuit 
  twice.
  
  In the first appeal, Americans United for Separation of 
  Church and State, the ACLU of the National Capitol Area, the ACLU Foundation 
  of Maryland, the Anti-Defamation League, People for the American Way, the 
  National Education Association, the National School Boards Association, the 
  Maryland Association of Boards of Education, the National Parent Teacher 
  Association, the American Association of School Administrators,and 
  Montgomery Soccer filed amicus briefs supporting Montgomery County Public 
  Schools.
  
  In the second appeal, the National School Boards 
  Association and the Maryland Association of Boards of Education filed an 
  amicus brief supporting the school district.
  Interesting. Does anyone 
know why the change? Did the ACLU, PAW and AU feel that the new policy from the 
school board resolved the constitutional questions?Ed 
Brayton
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Seventh Circuit Decision in Christian Legal Society v. Southern Illinois University

2006-07-13 Thread Greg Baylor
On Monday, the Seventh Circuit issued a decision in a dispute between
Southern Illinois University School of Law and the law school's Christian
Legal Society chapter.

Law school officials revoked the CLS chapter's recognition and attendant
benefits on the ground that the chapter's statement of faith and conduct
requirements violated university bans on religious and sexual orientation
discrimination.

A majority of the Seventh Circuit panel directed the district court to enter
a preliminary injunction requiring the law school to reinstate the chapter
during the pendency of the litigation.

The opinions can be found on the Seventh Circuit's website at the following
URL:

http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/UK0P676W.pdf

The undersigned is among the lawyers representing the chapter in this case.

Gregory S. Baylor
Director, Center for Law  Religious Freedom
Christian Legal Society
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RE: Christians Sue for Right Not to Tolerate Policies

2006-04-10 Thread Greg Baylor
The article is also poor in that it attributed to me comments I didn't make.

The reporter wrote that I conveyed the idea that same-sex sexual attraction
is a matter of choice rather than a genetically determined trait.  I said no
such thing.

It also said that I predicted that the IRS would eventually revoke the
tax-exempt status of religious organizations that take homosexual conduct
into account in their employment decisions.  I didn't say this either.

I have communicated this to the reporter and her editor.

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This story was sent to you by: michael newsom

Some might find this interesting.


Christians Sue for Right Not to Tolerate Policies
  


What a terrible article. It lumps a wide range of different policies
together, from diversity training to hate speech codes to
anti-discrimination codes, some of which are clearly unconstitutional and
some of which are not. It pretends that only Christians want to get rid of
some of them, which is blatantly false. I'm not a Christian, and I'm also a
strong supporter of gay righs, and I'm a staunch opponent of hate speech
codes, and I would argue that such codes at public universities are clearly
unconstitutional.

Ed Brayton
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RE: Alito Views SCOTUS Doctrine as Giving Impression of HostilitytoReligious Expression

2005-11-04 Thread Greg Baylor
My organization represented CEF in the Stafford case.  Prof. Volokh is
correct that the school district argued that the Establishment Clause
required it to deny CEF benefits available to other community organizations.
The essence of their argument was that they needed to protect little kids
from religion.

Greg Baylor

Gregory S. Baylor
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HostilitytoReligious Expression

I suspect that Alito's response was in large part a reaction to two
cases that he heard on the Third Circuit:  Child Evangelism Fellowship of
New Jersey Inc. v. Stafford Tp. School Dist., 386 F.3d 514 (3rd Cir. 2004),
and C.H. v. Oliva, 226 F.3d 198 (3rd Cir. 2000).

In both, the government's lawyers -- presumably not ones who are
easily duped by unrelenting rhetoric we hear from the right -- apparently
argued that the Establishment Clause required government entities to
discriminate against private religious speech (i.e., religious speech by
students or by private organizations, not religious speech by school
officials in their official capacity) in schools.  In Oliva, the lower court
seemed to at least partly endorse this view, though its comments are a
little cryptic.  (And of course in Oliva, the Third Circuit ultimately
concluded that the school was entitled to discriminate against the religious
speech, though it didn't hold that such discrimination was required.)  I
haven't read the briefs in those cases, but if I were the government lawyer
making that argument, I'd certainly have something to point to in the
Court's decisions -- for instance, the concurrences in Pinette, which seem
to suggest that the Establishment Clause sometimes may require
discrimination against private religious speech, and even the plurality in
Pinette, which says that compliance with the Establishment Clause is a
compelling interest justifying what would otherwise be a violation of the
Free Speech Clause (rather than that compliance with the Free Speech Clause
is an adequate justification for what would otherwise be a violation of the
Establishment Clause).

My guess is that if Alito did say that the Court's doctrine really
gives the impression of hostility to religious speech and religious
expression and that the court had erred by going too far in prohibiting
government support for religion at the risk of hampering individual
expression of religion -- I say if because my sense is that it's hard to
be confident of the accuracy of such second-hand quotes -- he was likely
alluding to what he saw while participating in those cases:  The Court's
doctrine has created, among many government officials (as well as among
critics of those officials) an impression that private religious speech is
in some measure constitutionally disfavored, and that private religious
speech can be and perhaps must be subject to special restrictions.  And that
strikes me as quite a sensible criticism of the Court's doctrine, though of
course there are also quite sensible defenses of the Court's doctrine.

Eugene

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I don't want to be too picky here, but Alito is saying impression of
hostility, not necessarily hostility.  So, in a sense, he does not
disagree with Marty.  Alito says impression, and Marty says
misperception. A misperception is in fact an impression, but an inaccurate
one.

I do think that Alito is correct that there is an impression of hostility.
Now whether that impression is justified is ever or always justified is
another question. But clearly Alito is justified in saying that many
ordinary people in fact have that impression.

I'm going to suggest that a large part of this misconception is the result
of the almost unrelenting rhetoric we hear from the right claiming that the
courts are hostile to religion, want to stamp it out from society, have
thrown God out of the schools and so forth. I've had countless
conversations with people who are shocked to find out what the courts have
actually ruled on various religious expression

RE: Faith tests okayed for campus Christian group at ASU

2005-10-24 Thread Greg Baylor
Title: Message



I agree that courts have struggled to implement Justice 
Scalia's "hybrid rights" concept. 

Interestingly, in the section of his Smith opinion 
discussing so-called "hybrid rights," Justice Scalia stated as 
follows:

And 
it is easy to envision a case in which a challenge on freedom of association 
grounds would likewise be reinforced by Free Exercise Clause concerns. Cf. Roberts 
v. United States Jaycees, 
468 U.S. 609, 622, 104 S.Ct. 3244, 3251-52, 82 L.Ed.2d 462 (1984) ("An individual's freedom to speak, to worship, and to 
petition the government for the redress of grievances could not be vigorously 
protected from interference by the State [if] a correlative freedom to engage in 
group effort toward those ends were not also 
guaranteed").


Roberts, of course, concerns the application of a 
non-discrimination rule (albeit one that concerns sexrather than religion 
or sexual orientation).To the extent lower courts are willing and able to 
implement "hybrid rights" theory, the theory would seem to apply squarely to the 
situation we've been discussing, i.e., the application of a religion 
and/or sexual orientation non-discrimination rule to a religious 
group.

Again, it seems to me that a court trying faithfully to apply the 
Free Exercise Clause as interpreted inSmith to the CLS chapter 
cases would impose strict scrutiny. I also believe that if courts 
correctly apply strict scrutiny, they will conclude that the government lacks an 
interest that is sufficiently compelling to justify the substantial burden on 
the religious student group's right to exercise its religion 
freely.

Greg Baylor 



From: Alan Brownstein 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 
12:54 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Law  Religion issues for Law 
AcademicsSubject: RE: Faith tests okayed for campus Christian group 
at ASU


With regard to Gregs 
last point, the case law is decidedly mixed regarding so-called hybrid 
rights. It is not surprising that courts are reluctant to accept this 
doctrinal fabrication manufactured out of whole cloth by Scalia in Smith since the principle is intellectually 
and/ or normatively indefensible.

Alan 
Brownstein
UC 
Davis





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BaylorSent: Thursday, October 
20, 2005 3:24 PMTo: 
'Law  Religion issues for Law 
Academics'Subject: RE: Faith tests okayed for campus 
Christian group at ASU


I would argue that 
under cases like BSA v. 
Dale, a rule forbidding a religious organization from 
taking religious belief and extramarital sexual conduct into account in its 
personnel decisions infringes upon the religious organization's right of 
expressive association and, therefore, that the government in such a 
circumstance would be required to provide a compelling 
justification.



Prof. Jamar is correct 
that some of these cases involve "a benefit that need not be given at all." I 
may be misreading him, but I believe he is suggesting that the government 
may withhold benefits under a 
rule that it could not apply to the party in question by virtue of a direct 
regulation of behavior (as opposed to a condition on access to a benefit). If I 
am reading him correctly, I believe that this argument conflicts with existing 
precedent. The Supreme Court has repeatedly applied strict scrutiny to rules 
governing access to government benefits, e.g., Speiser v. Randall, Perry v. Sindermann, O'Hare 
Trucking, Velazquez v. LSC, 
etc.



In other words, I do 
not agree with Prof. Jamar's apparent assertion that these non-discrimination 
rules are not subject to strict scrutiny because they do not target religion or 
religious groups. [Note that even as a matter of Free Exercise Clause law, these 
rules are subject to strict scrutiny despite Smith given that they burden 
hybrid rights.]



Are these arguments not 
correct, as a matter of existing case law?


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