Re: [Repeater-Builder] Can you change Motorola R100 from DPL to PL?
It has been a while, but you must change the processors in the TX and RX strips, as well as some other components. It is not too bad of a job, but I don't know if the parts are still available or not. Both PL and DPL units can run carrier squelch. It might be simpler to program your repeater for this mode and then install aftermarket tone or digital squelch boards. Kevin At 10:54 PM 12/22/2005, you wrote: I was curious as to if the units are hardwired in or is it some card that you can change. Thanks Dakota Summerhawk Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning with MINIMUM tools
I mean in emergency situation, like in natural disaster. What the minimal tools I have to have to be able to adjust the duplexer and how? reza --- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Reza PWW wrote: Can anybody can advise me for tunning duplexer with minimum tools? For example case: I have to change TX-RX frequensi in some place, where I only have SWR and some HT and volt meter? A case of beer, an SWR meter, and a radio. Tune for minimum SWR. The case of beer is to insure accuracy -- largely because there isn't much. You're tuning for minimum insertion loss at that point (technically return loss). Really, you should find a friend with an IFR, communications analyzer, or spectrum analyzer with a tracking generator. To properly do the job, you need a dummy load on the unused port. Impedance mismatches can also do a job on cavity performance. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] R-1225
Has anyone usedthe R1225 and hooked up to a controller via 16pin?Chris NH7QH Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Nice 2 meter rpt for sale
I am seeing a nice looking Maggiore 2 meter rpt going too cheap on Ebay. #5843735062. I am not connected to the sale in any way. Just a great deal for someone looking for a clean repeater at low cost. Vincent N6OA/2 (anyone want my snow?) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning with MINIMUM tools
I once used a 10 Watt freq agile transmitter and wattmeter to set pass freq and a bearcat scanner and a tunable variable frequency generator to set notch on a wacom 678 UHF duplexer. Tuned notch for noisiest signal into scanner. Steve NU5D -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reza PWW Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning with MINIMUM tools I mean in emergency situation, like in natural disaster. What the minimal tools I have to have to be able to adjust the duplexer and how? reza --- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Reza PWW wrote: Can anybody can advise me for tunning duplexer with minimum tools? For example case: I have to change TX-RX frequensi in some place, where I only have SWR and some HT and volt meter? A case of beer, an SWR meter, and a radio. Tune for minimum SWR. The case of beer is to insure accuracy -- largely because there isn't much. You're tuning for minimum insertion loss at that point (technically return loss). Really, you should find a friend with an IFR, communications analyzer, or spectrum analyzer with a tracking generator. To properly do the job, you need a dummy load on the unused port. Impedance mismatches can also do a job on cavity performance. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning with MINIMUM tools
I have done the same also and it works well enough to get on the air quickly. Roger W5RD From: Steve Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Dec 23 08:38:52 CST 2005 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning with MINIMUM tools I once used a 10 Watt freq agile transmitter and wattmeter to set pass freq and a bearcat scanner and a tunable variable frequency generator to set notch on a wacom 678 UHF duplexer. Tuned notch for noisiest signal into scanner. Steve NU5D -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reza PWW Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning with MINIMUM tools I mean in emergency situation, like in natural disaster. What the minimal tools I have to have to be able to adjust the duplexer and how? reza --- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Reza PWW wrote: Can anybody can advise me for tunning duplexer with minimum tools? For example case: I have to change TX-RX frequensi in some place, where I only have SWR and some HT and volt meter? A case of beer, an SWR meter, and a radio. Tune for minimum SWR. The case of beer is to insure accuracy -- largely because there isn't much. You're tuning for minimum insertion loss at that point (technically return loss). Really, you should find a friend with an IFR, communications analyzer, or spectrum analyzer with a tracking generator. To properly do the job, you need a dummy load on the unused port. Impedance mismatches can also do a job on cavity performance. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] R-1225
Chris, I have several R1225 repeaters in service, both VHF and UHF. I tried using one of them with an i20R controller, but I found that the loss of the reverse burst STE to be unacceptable. So, all of them are now running with the built-in controller and doing just fine. I'm curious: Why would you want to connect an external controller, when there's one already inside the radio? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris colquhounSent: Friday, December 23, 2005 1:10 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] R-1225 Has anyone usedthe R1225 and hooked up to a controller via 16pin? Chris NH7QH Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Wanted - MSF-5000 UHF Duplexer Cable
I have a MSF-5000 UHF base station that I want to convert to repeater service, and have all of the components needed other than the TEE cable that connects the transmit filter / receiver / antenna. Motorola P/N TLE5732A, should have a green color stripe on it. Thanks and Merry Christmas Andy -- NC Certified Firefighter III / Instructor II / EMT-A FCC Licensed Technician / Amateur Call NC4AB / Echolink Node 5761 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning with MINIMUM tools
H Minimal tools Rf Voltmeter -w- 50 ohm termination, signal generator -w- pad, 50 ohm dummy load for unused port. Mike N8RQU --- Reza PWW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean in emergency situation, like in natural disaster. What the minimal tools I have to have to be able to adjust the duplexer and how? reza --- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Reza PWW wrote: Can anybody can advise me for tunning duplexer with minimum tools? For example case: I have to change TX-RX frequensi in some place, where I only have SWR and some HT and volt meter? A case of beer, an SWR meter, and a radio. Tune for minimum SWR. The case of beer is to insure accuracy -- largely because there isn't much. You're tuning for minimum insertion loss at that point (technically return loss). Really, you should find a friend with an IFR, communications analyzer, or spectrum analyzer with a tracking generator. To properly do the job, you need a dummy load on the unused port. Impedance mismatches can also do a job on cavity performance. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning with MINIMUM tools
One time, I used a Mastr II Receiver to tune one notch ... and a Motrac Receiver to tune the other notch. For terminations, I had a GR-874 20 dB pad on the unused port and GR-874 10 dB pads on the ports being tested. Also used double shielded 50 ohm jumper coaxial cables - with GR-874 connectors. The use of the 20 dB pad on the unused port worked quite well as the return loss in 40 dB. Neil McKie - WA6KLA Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: I once used a 10 Watt freq agile transmitter and wattmeter to set pass freq and a bearcat scanner and a tunable variable frequency generator to set notch on a wacom 678 UHF duplexer. Tuned notch for noisiest signal into scanner. Steve NU5D -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reza PWW Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning with MINIMUM tools I mean in emergency situation, like in natural disaster. What the minimal tools I have to have to be able to adjust the duplexer and how? reza --- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Reza PWW wrote: Can anybody can advise me for tunning duplexer with minimum tools? For example case: I have to change TX-RX frequensi in some place, where I only have SWR and some HT and volt meter? A case of beer, an SWR meter, and a radio. Tune for minimum SWR. The case of beer is to insure accuracy -- largely because there isn't much. You're tuning for minimum insertion loss at that point (technically return loss). Really, you should find a friend with an IFR, communications analyzer, or spectrum analyzer with a tracking generator. To properly do the job, you need a dummy load on the unused port. Impedance mismatches can also do a job on cavity performance. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted - MSF-5000 UHF Duplexer Cable
Andy, If you can't find someone who is willing to give up this essential part, it is available from Motorola Parts. The TLE5732A Duplex Tee is listed on MOL for $167.45- quite a chunk of moolah for a simple harness. Perhaps one of our readers can provide exact measurements of this cable, so that you can fabricate it yourself...? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Brinkley Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:07 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted - MSF-5000 UHF Duplexer Cable I have a MSF-5000 UHF base station that I want to convert to repeater service, and have all of the components needed other than the TEE cable that connects the transmit filter / receiver / antenna. Motorola P/N TLE5732A, should have a green color stripe on it. Thanks and Merry Christmas Andy Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] R-1225
Probably because the internal unit is soo limited. Part 97 says that you must be able to remotely control your repeater. With thie internal controller you can't turn the repeater on and off. I am running a 1225 with an Arcom RC-210... Eric Lemmon wrote: Chris, I have several R1225 repeaters in service, both VHF and UHF. I tried using one of them with an i20R controller, but I found that the loss of the reverse burst STE to be unacceptable. So, all of them are now running with the built-in controller and doing just fine. I'm curious: Why would you want to connect an external controller, when there's one already inside the radio? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com -- Jay Urish W5GM DCARA President ARRL Life Member TXFCA President ERS Vice-Prez Denton County ARRL VEC N5ERS VP/Trustee Monitoring 1292.30Ghz PL-100.0 441.375 PL-88.5 and 444.850 PL-88.5 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice 2 meter rpt for sale
Proxy bidding will run it up at the last possible minute,so the low price you see is deceptive. Thats why I dislike Eblah... vmckever wrote: I am seeing a nice looking Maggiore 2 meter rpt going too cheap on Ebay. #5843735062. I am not connected to the sale in any way. Just a great deal for someone looking for a clean repeater at low cost. Vincent N6OA/2 (anyone want my snow?) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted - MSF-5000 UHF Duplexer Cable
They're definitely rare. Not many people pull them out when stripping a station to its component pieces. I have one in a working station. While I could measure it, there's the actual splice box that joins the three pieces of coax, and I don't know if there's anything magical going on inside besides one solder joint. I don't know if it could be duplicated with a common TEE connector. I do know that the leads between the output of the filter/duplexer and the TEE, and the TEE to the antenna jack on the side of the cabinet, are quite short, maybe one or two inches each. The line going to the receiver is much longer as it has to snake its way around and allow the RF tray to slide in and out. The location and color of the band at the splice box determines if the unit is used for tx freq rx freq, or tx freq rx freq, and also the band split: 403-438, 438-470, 470-512. I have a sheet on it somewhere, but it doesn't specify the cable lengths so you could make your own. I doubt the lengths are critical, due to the wide bandspread of the harness. If you don't really need the internal filter/duplexer, you might be better off with an external Bp/Br duplexer; at least it wouldn't need that expensive TEE cable. For the cost of buying a new cable from Motorola, you could almost buy a decent external duplexer. Plus the tuning would be a lot easier. Bob M. == --- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy, If you can't find someone who is willing to give up this essential part, it is available from Motorola Parts. The TLE5732A Duplex Tee is listed on MOL for $167.45 - quite a chunk of moolah for a simple harness. Perhaps one of our readers can provide exact measurements of this cable, so that you can fabricate it yourself...? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Brinkley Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:07 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted - MSF-5000 UHF Duplexer Cable I have a MSF-5000 UHF base station that I want to convert to repeater service, and have all of the components needed other than the TEE cable that connects the transmit filter / receiver / antenna. Motorola P/N TLE5732A, should have a green color stripe on it. Thanks and Merry Christmas Andy __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] R-1225
Jay, It's true that the R1225 internal controller won't respond internally to a knockdown command, but I use an NHRC-Remote board to respond to a DTMF code on the input which pulls down the Repeater Knockdown pin on the accessory connector. That, coupled with the timeout timer set for three minutes, gives me the required control. The same remote board can also be used for PL selection, channel steering, or door lock control. It's basic and simple, but it works. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Jay Urish wrote: Probably because the internal unit is soo limited. Part 97 says that you must be able to remotely control your repeater. With the internal controller you can't turn the repeater on and off. I am running a 1225 with an Arcom RC-210... Eric Lemmon wrote: ... I'm curious: Why would you want to connect an external controller, when there's one already inside the radio? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] R-1225
Cool! But it involves an external device.. And hey, mine talks! RIB_RIB_JAB_JAB ::) Eric Lemmon wrote: Jay, It's true that the R1225 internal controller won't respond internally to a knockdown command, but I use an NHRC-Remote board to respond to a DTMF code on the input which pulls down the Repeater Knockdown pin on the accessory connector. That, coupled with the timeout timer set for three minutes, gives me the required control. The same remote board can also be used for PL selection, channel steering, or door lock control. It's basic and simple, but it works. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Jay Urish wrote: Probably because the internal unit is soo limited. Part 97 says that you must be able to remotely control your repeater. With the internal controller you can't turn the repeater on and off. I am running a 1225 with an Arcom RC-210... Eric Lemmon wrote: ... I'm curious: Why would you want to connect an external controller, when there's one already inside the radio? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jay Urish Systems Engineer Unixwolf Enterprises LLC. http://www.unixwolf.net 972.691.0125972.965.6229 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Can you change Motorola R100 from DPL to PL?
Unless you can find someone out there with a kit, or find both RX and TX modules with the PL kit already installed, you are better off going with an outboard module such as the CS TS64, etc. The kits are NLA at Motorola. I saw a kit on Fleabay, the other day, but I believe it was a DPL conversion kit. The kits are very rare anymore. It involves a programmed chip or two, plus a few other parts, so you cannot go out and make your own. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dakota Summerhawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was curious as to if the units are hardwired in or is it some card that you can change. Thanks Dakota Summerhawk Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted - MSF-5000 UHF Duplexer Cable
I have the one on the this UHF MSF5000 if you need the measurements.Mathew Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy,If you can't find someone who is willing to give up this essential part, itis available from Motorola Parts. The TLE5732A "Duplex Tee" is listed onMOL for $167.45- quite a chunk of moolah for a simple harness.Perhaps one of our readers can provide exact measurements of this cable, sothat you can fabricate it yourself...?73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy BrinkleySent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:07 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted - MSF-5000 UHF Duplexer CableI have a MSF-5000 UHF base station that I want to convert to repeaterservice, and have all of the components needed other than the "TEE" cablethat connects the transmit filter / receiver / antenna.Motorola P/N TLE5732A, should have a green color stripe on it.Thanks and Merry ChristmasAndyYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Xmas greetings
Wishing you and your family A Merry Christmas and A Very Happy New Year 2006! David Ferdinand family YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning with MINIMUM tools
My first set of 220Mhz duplexers (homebrew) were tuned up with an HT and a box with a 50 ohm resistor, diode, and capacitor in it. I fed the rectified signal voltage to a oscilloscope. I then tuned for either minimum or maximum voltage on the scope, depending upon if I was tuning the notch or the pass. Where there's a will there's a way. Maybe not the best way, but it worked well enough to get the repeater on the air with reasonable performance. 73, Joe, K1ike At 08:38 AM 12/23/2005 -0600, you wrote: I once used a 10 Watt freq agile transmitter and wattmeter to set pass freq and a bearcat scanner and a tunable variable frequency generator to set notch on a wacom 678 UHF duplexer. Tuned notch for noisiest signal into scanner. Steve NU5D Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/