Re: [Repeater-Builder] missing posts
I posted one message to the group Friday morning. I never got my copy as a subscriber. It IS there in the group's messages. In fact, on Friday, I never got a single message after 7am for the rest of the day. I got a few on Saturday and a few more on Sunday. Things seem to be back to normal this morning, but who knows. Even my regular e-mail was rather quiet. I wonder if it had something to do with Cinco de Mayo??? I'm sure that complaining to Yahoo will get the usual automated reply. I don't think messages were delayed; they were just never sent out. They seem to have that problem a lot. Bob M. == --- skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent a few replies and posts to the group on Thursday, Friday and Sat... Never saw them in the message list. Some moderator doesn't like me or Yahoo had a bad hair day? skipp __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Re: Crossband/Portable repeaters - Here in Colorado, we have two 2 Meter pairs designated for statewide use for portable/emergency/special event repeaters. These pairs get used to fill in the dead spots when emergencies occur. A number of clubs and ARES groups have portable repeaters set up on these pairs. (Good band planning by whoever put these in place years ago.) - Some of the emcomm folks use dualband transceivers with crossband repeat as a inexpensive way to extend radio range (often used to extend HT range from inside a building or other bad spot). These radios don't meet the letter of the law (FCC regs) with regard to identification (my opinion, you mileage may vary.) - We do not have any designated frequencies for crossbanding to 440 MHz in the bandplan. Most people just find some lightly used uhf simplex frequency. - If conventional transceivers are used, the power needs to be reduced or additional cooling supplied due to 100% duty cycle operation. - I constructed a crossband repeater using two transceivers and an NHRC-6 controller that knows how to handle the ID of two transmitters appropriately (most repeater controllers do not). http://www.nhrc.net/nhrc-6/ - One issue with a vhf/uhf crossband repeat set up working into a repeaterthe repeater transmitter must drop before the crossband repeater can turn the link around. Shortening the hang time on the conventional repeater (or using CTCSS that drops with the received signal) helps this issue. 73, Bob K0NR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: Paul Yonge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun May 7, 2006 10:12pm(PDT) Subject: Portable Repeaters I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex repeaters are the answer for providing portable repeaters in critical incident response situations. They are relying on the fixed repeaters to provide adequate coverage but there are areas where it would be advantageous to bring the repeater to the incident instead of trying to reach fixed repeaters with hand-held units from some isolated locations. There are, of course, coordination problems with portable duplex repeaters and there is no apparent interest in agreeing on a wide- split pair of odd frequencies to avoid the conventional-frequency pairs. What experience has there been with the use of portable cross-band repeaters to enable hand-held units using a 440 MHz simplex channel to reach the portable repeater that will relay the message through to a two-meter fixed repeater? Paul Yonge, W2ARK MIDLAKES REPEATER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
To my knowledge there is no cut and dried FCC mandated coordination group for ham bands other then good practice. IF there is a FCC regulation stating that a particular coordination group is responsible for the ham bands I do not know it. That said here in some parts of Florida there are a number of mobile or portable repeaters that have been built but these repeaters are designed for emergency use so they are usually not heard from except in an emergency. If you were to pick a simplex frequency and it was used in emergencies I would not see any problem and don't see where any one has a right to complain( well there are always some ) . Do not depend on others to push for a statewide pair or frequency and instead try pushing a frequency yourself ! People have a habit of forgetting past history when repeaters in an area are down for any number of reasons and that having the ability to continue to communicate is very important. When the power goes down after storms and it stays down for a month and sometimes more these repeaters come in handy. I have a UHF GMRS mobile repeater just for this purpose. While mine is duplex I see a good need for simplex repeaters as the radios are real cheap! Cross Band as well! A lot of the repeaters are on commercial sites that when the generator runs dry so do the repeaters! Good luck! Steve N4YZA / WQDW656 - Original Message - From: Paul Yonge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:20 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex repeaters are the answer for providing portable repeaters in critical incident response situations. They are relying on the fixed repeaters to provide adequate coverage but there are areas where it would be advantageous to bring the repeater to the incident instead of trying to reach fixed repeaters with hand-held units from some isolated locations. There are, of course, coordination problems with portable duplex repeaters and there is no apparent interest in agreeing on a wide- split pair of odd frequencies to avoid the conventional-frequency pairs. What experience has there been with the use of portable cross-band repeaters to enable hand-held units using a 440 MHz simplex channel to reach the portable repeater that will relay the message through to a two-meter fixed repeater? Paul Yonge, W2ARK MIDLAKES REPEATER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Paul: Out here in southern CA, our emergency group uses a couple of portable 70 cm rptrs made from handheld radios, a small, cheap controller and mobile duplexer. Our repeater bands are full, but the local folks are generally very cooperative when the hams are providing emergency comms. 73, Dick - Original Message - From: Paul Yonge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 07 May, 2006 22:20 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex repeaters are the answer for providing portable repeaters in critical incident response situations. They are relying on the fixed repeaters to provide adequate coverage but there are areas where it would be advantageous to bring the repeater to the incident instead of trying to reach fixed repeaters with hand-held units from some isolated locations. There are, of course, coordination problems with portable duplex repeaters and there is no apparent interest in agreeing on a wide- split pair of odd frequencies to avoid the conventional-frequency pairs. What experience has there been with the use of portable cross-band repeaters to enable hand-held units using a 440 MHz simplex channel to reach the portable repeater that will relay the message through to a two-meter fixed repeater? Paul Yonge, W2ARK MIDLAKES REPEATER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Pick a clear pair and go for it. The FCC is the only authority than has a word to say in the end. If you do interfere with someone just work it out like the ladies and gentlemen we are supposed to be. Paul Yonge wrote: I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex repeaters are the answer for providing portable repeaters in critical incident response situations. They are relying on the fixed repeaters to provide adequate coverage but there are areas where it would be advantageous to bring the repeater to the incident instead of trying to reach fixed repeaters with hand-held units from some isolated locations. There are, of course, coordination problems with portable duplex repeaters and there is no apparent interest in agreeing on a wide- split pair of odd frequencies to avoid the conventional-frequency pairs. What experience has there been with the use of portable cross-band repeaters to enable hand-held units using a 440 MHz simplex channel to reach the portable repeater that will relay the message through to a two-meter fixed repeater? Paul Yonge, W2ARK MIDLAKES REPEATER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Steve et al: The various amateur repeater coordinating groups have no official FCC authority or mandate to control spectrum or issue repeater pairs. As a practical matter, however, the FCC will almost always support a coordinated repeater over a non-coordinated one in matters of interference. This is in keeping with the FCC's mandate to prevent interference. Fortunately, the vast majority of hams are a cooperative lot and generally work with their local coordination group to keep repeaters from causing interference to each other. I have a portable UHF repeater on GMRS and one in the ham band and have used them where I live. So far, so good and no problems. By and large, the system works quite well. 73, Dick W1NMZ WPVY245 - Original Message - From: Stephen Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 08 May, 2006 08:04 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters To my knowledge there is no cut and dried FCC mandated coordination group for ham bands other then good practice. IF there is a FCC regulation stating that a particular coordination group is responsible for the ham bands I do not know it. That said here in some parts of Florida there are a number of mobile or portable repeaters that have been built but these repeaters are designed for emergency use so they are usually not heard from except in an emergency. If you were to pick a simplex frequency and it was used in emergencies I would not see any problem and don't see where any one has a right to complain( well there are always some ) . Do not depend on others to push for a statewide pair or frequency and instead try pushing a frequency yourself ! People have a habit of forgetting past history when repeaters in an area are down for any number of reasons and that having the ability to continue to communicate is very important. When the power goes down after storms and it stays down for a month and sometimes more these repeaters come in handy. I have a UHF GMRS mobile repeater just for this purpose. While mine is duplex I see a good need for simplex repeaters as the radios are real cheap! Cross Band as well! A lot of the repeaters are on commercial sites that when the generator runs dry so do the repeaters! Good luck! Steve N4YZA / WQDW656 - Original Message - From: Paul Yonge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:20 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex repeaters are the answer for providing portable repeaters in critical incident response situations. They are relying on the fixed repeaters to provide adequate coverage but there are areas where it would be advantageous to bring the repeater to the incident instead of trying to reach fixed repeaters with hand-held units from some isolated locations. There are, of course, coordination problems with portable duplex repeaters and there is no apparent interest in agreeing on a wide- split pair of odd frequencies to avoid the conventional-frequency pairs. What experience has there been with the use of portable cross-band repeaters to enable hand-held units using a 440 MHz simplex channel to reach the portable repeater that will relay the message through to a two-meter fixed repeater? Paul Yonge, W2ARK MIDLAKES REPEATER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dayton airfare
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have one for me while you're there - It looks like I'll have to miss this year :-( But I do keep checking the airfare websites every day just in case - I look at fares to Dayton, Columbus, Cincinnati, Louisville, etc. No reasonable airfares to be found (I've been checking every day since before the beginning of the year). Hopefully next year! LJ here's a hint-try Toledo or Akron-Canton airports. bit more of drive down, except for Louisville, about the same there, but I would expect it to be cheaper... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
At 06:29 AM 05/08/06, you wrote: Re: Crossband/Portable repeaters - Here in Colorado, we have two 2 Meter pairs designated for statewide use for portable/emergency/special event repeaters. These pairs get used to fill in the dead spots when emergencies occur. A number of clubs and ARES groups have portable repeaters set up on these pairs. (Good band planning by whoever put these in place years ago.) Yeah, good coordinators rarely get the thanks they deserve. Our portable repeater pair is 144.93 / 147.595 - Some of the emcomm folks use dualband transceivers with crossband repeat as a inexpensive way to extend radio range (often used to extend HT range from inside a building or other bad spot). These radios don't meet the letter of the law (FCC regs) with regard to identification (my opinion, you mileage may vary.) I have one set up in my vehicle to help me get into our UHF system from inside a building. It uses a 420.something input and a 443.something output. I have a extra memory position set up on the handheld that listens to the system output and talks on the 420 channel. We are coordinated on that 420 channel as a link frequency and the receiver that hears that frequency is over 100 miles away and is on a directional antenna pointed at the mountaintop that the repeater is on, so it's not going to hear my HT inside a building. I'm the only one who is going to use that mobile extender and I am sure to ID it with through the WA6ILQ mobile repeater as needed. However Kevin has banned rules and regs discussions on this list for good reason - they generate a lot of heat and fire and discontent and nothing gets resolved - and this is getting close to that area so I'm going to drop the regs topic with this posting. Any regs followups to personal mail, or technical followups to the list. - We do not have any designated frequencies for crossbanding to 440 MHz in the bandplan. Most people just find some lightly used uhf simplex frequency. I've been known to use a repeater input frequency from some out-of-the-area system (with permission from the system owner) and use a different PL tone on top of that. For a long time I had a roll-around Pelican case (think of a Samsonite rollaround suitcase that's the width of a rack panel and a foot thick) with a 25w Micor mobile (switchable between the two local test pairs) with a duplexer, a Scom 7K and a Optima sealed battery in it. Roll it into a convention hotel room, stand it in a corner opened up for ventilation, hook up an antenna to the duplexer (a 6 mag mount stuck to the bottom of a metal trash can lid and hanging upside down from a top floor room balcony gets out a lot better than you would think). - If conventional transceivers are used, the power needs to be reduced or additional cooling supplied due to 100% duty cycle operation. A forgotten fact is that 25w Micor mobiles are continuous duty. - I constructed a crossband repeater using two transceivers and an NHRC-6 controller that knows how to handle the ID of two transmitters appropriately (most repeater controllers do not). http://www.nhrc.net/nhrc-6 A good tip - I'd forgotten that. BTW the -7 will also. - One issue with a vhf/uhf crossband repeat set up working into a repeaterthe repeater transmitter must drop before the crossband repeater can turn the link around. Shortening the hang time on the conventional repeater (or using CTCSS that drops with the received signal) helps this issue. We ran into that problem in one of the 1980s Rose Parades... I forget which year... the floats are built at over 15 locations and have to convoy in (some from 40 miles away) and arrive at the formation area in the proper sequence. Formation is on a city street and one float passing another is difficult - ever try and parallel park a 5-ton float that's 50 feet long and has a 300-degree blind spot? My assignment was at one of the float construction areas and could not get into the main parade control 147.27 repeater from there... I had a 440-to-2m crossband repeater in my car (at that time it was two HT-200s) and the guys at Parade Control had to wait for the system to completely drop out before I could answer a call. A while later another ham showed up with a 10w mobile and a gellcell in a backpack complete with an 18 spike antenna on a microphone gooseneck strapped to one of the shoulder straps. A few years later an outbound CTCSS encoder slaved to inbound COR was added to the repeater to support the crossbanders I wish that more repeater owners would add that. 73, Bob K0NR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Dayton check list -as ammended for 2006
1. Dayton rule book as ammended for 2006 - with complete do's and donts while attending the hamfest and specifically noting the penalties for transgressing ANY of the regulations. 2. The complete Ohio State Manual fire regulations as ammended for 2006. 3. Over priced tickets and space rental tags 4. Parka - with hood and artic mittens 5. Galoshes or waders depending on the day (a suggestion was made last year about bringing 33 gal trash bags to use as rain coats for the optomists who don't think it will rain.) 6. Dry socks 4 pair and other bits of apparel that may get wet. 7. Tent or canopy with several hundred pounds of lead weights to combat the gentle 45 Knot Dayton breeze. 8. Sleeping accomodations within 75 miles of Hara Arena and sleeping pills, eye shade, ear muffs to combat the drunken brawl in the next room or possibly in the same room. 9. 14 handie talkies, pagers, cellphones, GPS, Video Camera, PDA or Blackberry, and belt large enuf to accomodate them all at the same time. 9(a). Bandolero with spare batteries for all this electronic paraphernalia. 10. Goofy hat with antennas sticking out for at least 4 bands extra credit for Beam. 11. Laminated Dayton Hamfest I.D. badge 12. scrolling electronic sign front and back telling anyone and everyone who you are what freqs you are monitoring and your email address. 13. Bail Money 14. Map of hamfest grounds with all portapotties marked in red. 15. Snow chains - you never can tell in Dayton. 16. SPF 55 sunscreen - you never can tell when your in Dayton. 17 - Laser transit and 100 ft tape measure to align your tables to avoid reprimand from the alignment police. Heaven forbid you should creep over the painted yellow lines and encroach on the footpath-driveway which you can't drive on anyway after 8 a.m. 18 - Despite all this try to have a fun time. Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio Ltd - 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 web http://www.mdmradio.com - Check it now!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton check list -as ammended for 2006
Ted, I hope you'll be there this year...last year you didn't come and it didn't RAIN ! :-)) 73 John VE3AMZ - Original Message - From: Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton check list -as ammended for 2006 1. Dayton rule book as ammended for 2006 - with complete do's and donts while attending the hamfest and specifically noting the penalties for transgressing ANY of the regulations. 2. The complete Ohio State Manual fire regulations as ammended for 2006. 3. Over priced tickets and space rental tags 4. Parka - with hood and artic mittens 5. Galoshes or waders depending on the day (a suggestion was made last year about bringing 33 gal trash bags to use as rain coats for the optomists who don't think it will rain.) 6. Dry socks 4 pair and other bits of apparel that may get wet. 7. Tent or canopy with several hundred pounds of lead weights to combat the gentle 45 Knot Dayton breeze. 8. Sleeping accomodations within 75 miles of Hara Arena and sleeping pills, eye shade, ear muffs to combat the drunken brawl in the next room or possibly in the same room. 9. 14 handie talkies, pagers, cellphones, GPS, Video Camera, PDA or Blackberry, and belt large enuf to accomodate them all at the same time. 9(a). Bandolero with spare batteries for all this electronic paraphernalia. 10. Goofy hat with antennas sticking out for at least 4 bands extra credit for Beam. 11. Laminated Dayton Hamfest I.D. badge 12. scrolling electronic sign front and back telling anyone and everyone who you are what freqs you are monitoring and your email address. 13. Bail Money 14. Map of hamfest grounds with all portapotties marked in red. 15. Snow chains - you never can tell in Dayton. 16. SPF 55 sunscreen - you never can tell when your in Dayton. 17 - Laser transit and 100 ft tape measure to align your tables to avoid reprimand from the alignment police. Heaven forbid you should creep over the painted yellow lines and encroach on the footpath-driveway which you can't drive on anyway after 8 a.m. 18 - Despite all this try to have a fun time. Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio Ltd - 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 web http://www.mdmradio.com - Check it now!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Dick - Thanks for the comment. Some of the responses I got were somewhat in favor of the idea but they might have been worried about cost. Your suggestion takes care of that! Paul On May 8, 2006, at 11:05 AM, Dick wrote: Paul: Out here in southern CA, our emergency group uses a couple of portable 70 cm rptrs made from handheld radios, a small, cheap controller and mobile duplexer. Our repeater bands are full, but the local folks are generally very cooperative when the hams are providing emergency comms. 73, Dick Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
In anticipation of needing the liaison contacts, I joined up with nearly every association in Upstate New York so I can enlist their suggestions as to what channels are used locally and can try to avoid them. Thanks. Paul On May 8, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Ronny Julian wrote: Pick a clear pair and go for it. The FCC is the only authority than has a word to say in the end. If you do interfere with someone just work it out like the ladies and gentlemen we are supposed to be. Paul Yonge wrote: I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex repeaters are the answer for providing portable repeaters in critical incident response situations. They are relying on the fixed repeaters to provide adequate coverage but there are areas where it would be advantageous to bring the repeater to the incident instead of trying to reach fixed repeaters with hand-held units from some isolated locations. There are, of course, coordination problems with portable duplex repeaters and there is no apparent interest in agreeing on a wide- split pair of odd frequencies to avoid the conventional-frequency pairs. What experience has there been with the use of portable cross-band repeaters to enable hand-held units using a 440 MHz simplex channel to reach the portable repeater that will relay the message through to a two-meter fixed repeater? Paul Yonge, W2ARK MIDLAKES REPEATER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000
Greetings, Looking for a couple MSR 2000 parts. TRN5119A - auxiliary regulator board TPN1189A - auxiliary regulator chassis Any help, ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Marc KD5MSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: accepting recommendations
Try Toledo, Ohio; Cleveland;and Detroit. About a 2 to 3 hour drive then. Al - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: accepting recommendations Have one for me while you're there - It looks like I'll have to miss this year :-( But I do keep checking the airfare websites every day just in case - I look at fares to Dayton, Columbus, Cincinnati, Louisville, etc. No reasonable airfares to be found (I've been checking every day since before the beginning of the year). Hopefully next year! LJ Very true... cheers, skipp ps: I can almost smell those Dayton Brauts... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Repeater Problem
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5/4/2006 08:38 AM, you wrote: I hope someone can shed some light on this? If I have my repeater at home it works with 30 Watts out now problem. When I bring it back to the repeater site I have to lower it to 5-10 Watts because I get RF feedback to the radio. It just sounds like the squelch is always open. Motorola Mitrek modified for duplex Coax is the same at both locations, LMR400 Antenna is the only thing that is different, using a fiberglass Alpha If the repeater site is shared, there's lots of other equipment/antennas up there as well. Any switching power supplies, video cameras or TV transmitters at the site? Bob NO6B The repeater site is not shared. I have now tried everything I possibly could think of. I replaced the coax from the duplexer to the radio, encased the radio in a thick metal box, replaced coax, replaced antenna. Still the same thing. So I am led to believe that the repeater site itself is receiving some sort of interferance? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Good Radio's for Repeater?
Well my Motorola Mitrek radio has finally packed it in. Now I need to buy two 2 Meter radio's to work with my NHRC-5 Controller. Does anyone have any sugestions? Icom, Yaesu or Alinco? Would appreciate it... thanks Aaron VA6AE Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Ronny, It does not seem like a good idea to me to pop up on an untested channel(s) during an emergency. It would make sense to me to find a usable pair before the s**t hits the fan. Things are stressful enough in an emergency without trying to move both the repeater and then get all users to move without a large hole in connectivity. There is a good reason amateur emergency response groups practice _before_ they are really needed. Paul, One problem with the cross band approach is users with 440 HTs will need to wait for the two meter repeater drop delay to run out before they transmit. This also can be stressful in an emergency. You can get around this if you have the two meter repeater talkback encode PL only when the receiver squelch is open and then make the crossband box decode on two meters. Ed Yoho WA6RQD Ronny Julian wrote: Pick a clear pair and go for it. The FCC is the only authority than has a word to say in the end. If you do interfere with someone just work it out like the ladies and gentlemen we are supposed to be. Paul Yonge wrote: I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex repeaters are the answer for providing portable repeaters in critical incident response situations. They are relying on the fixed repeaters to provide adequate coverage but there are areas where it would be advantageous to bring the repeater to the incident instead of trying to reach fixed repeaters with hand-held units from some isolated locations. There are, of course, coordination problems with portable duplex repeaters and there is no apparent interest in agreeing on a wide- split pair of odd frequencies to avoid the conventional-frequency pairs. What experience has there been with the use of portable cross-band repeaters to enable hand-held units using a 440 MHz simplex channel to reach the portable repeater that will relay the message through to a two-meter fixed repeater? Paul Yonge, W2ARK MIDLAKES REPEATER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Paul, When you push for a wide-spaced portable repeater pair on 2m, suggest a separation of at least 3 MHz. The reason is that you can buy compact base station duplexers that are specified for 3.0 MHz spacing, but the performance rapidly deteriorates as the spacing is reduced below that point. I bought a Celwave 5085-1 duplexer that was factory tuned to a 2.655 MHz split, and it works okay with a 10 watt R1225 repeater, but it took some tweaking. The entire repeater fits into a rugged fiberglass case that is less than a cubic foot in volume. I hope to complete the final version shortly. It will be a challenge to create a 3 MHz pair in only 4 MHz of spectrum, but it can be done. Let's not forget that the purpose is to support *temporary* communications of an emergency nature. While it would be nice to have a pair permanently set aside for this purpose, I'll bet that a true emergency will trump any other claim to existing frequencies. If the PL encode and decode tones are intelligently selected, any interference to established repeaters should be minimal to nonexistent. If the portable repeater is positioned in the area where radio comm is needed, low power works wonders! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Yonge Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters Mike - What a batch of good ideas! All you folks have been very helpful and I've got a batch of homework to do. The Upper New York Repeater Council is having a meeting at the Rochester HamFest on June 3 from 1 pm to 2 pm (and maybe longer if they'll agree) and I'll organize these good ideas in writing so that maybe we can start to hammer out a workable itinerant repeater policy. Paul W2ARK previous thread messages removed Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Model Number
Can anyone tell me what this Mitrek Radio band split is XT34JJA3900DK HUE 1072CPR Randy Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Repeater Problem
I remember PC's radiating a very strong signal at 462.000 - was really noticable at a local hospital. ssbOn 5/8/06, atms169 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5/4/2006 08:38 AM, you wrote: I hope someone can shed some light on this? If I have my repeater at home it works with 30 Watts out now problem. When I bring it back to the repeater site I have to lower it to 5-10 Watts because I get RF feedback to the radio.It just soundslike the squelch is always open. Motorola Mitrek modified for duplex Coax is the same at both locations, LMR400 Antenna is the only thing that is different, using a fiberglass Alpha If the repeater site is shared, there's lots of otherequipment/antennas up there as well.Any switching power supplies, video cameras or TV transmitters at the site? Bob NO6BThe repeater site is not shared. I have now tried everything Ipossibly could think of.I replaced the coax from the duplexer to theradio, encased the radio in a thick metal box, replaced coax, replaced antenna.Still the same thing.So I am led to believe that therepeater site itself is receiving some sort of interferance?Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Ham Radio Spoken Here.NU5D YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good Radio's for Repeater?
I run a Harris Alpha 2000 GREAT radio Fully Duplexed ! and will run 50 watts cont duty all day long ! I have a harris group Ask Roger for more info he will program and and have the radio go plug and play for you , just add controller !! I have 2 unit and thay run great ! I hope this helps Rick On 8 May 2006 at 22:50, atms169 wrote: Well my Motorola Mitrek radio has finally packed it in. Now I need to buy two 2 Meter radio's to work with my NHRC-5 Controller. Does anyone have any sugestions? Icom, Yaesu or Alinco? Would appreciate it... thanks Aaron VA6AE Yahoo! Groups Links == www.karolinabc.ca == Rick,Charlote Kids Our Border Collies Miss Daisy Duke Sir Red-A-Lot Miss Elly May Mr Boots Our Border Collie Message Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website www.karolinabc.ca Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Eric Lemmon wrote: Paul, When you push for a wide-spaced portable repeater pair on 2m, suggest a separation of at least 3 MHz. The reason is that you can buy compact base station duplexers that are specified for 3.0 MHz spacing, but the performance rapidly deteriorates as the spacing is reduced below that point. I bought a Celwave 5085-1 duplexer that was factory tuned to a 2.655 MHz split, and it works okay with a 10 watt R1225 repeater, but it took some tweaking. The entire repeater fits into a rugged fiberglass case that is less than a cubic foot in volume. I hope to complete the final version shortly. It will be a challenge to create a 3 MHz pair in only 4 MHz of spectrum, but it can be done. Let's not forget that the purpose is to support *temporary* communications of an emergency nature. While it would be nice to have a pair permanently set aside for this purpose, I'll bet that a true emergency will trump any other claim to existing frequencies. If the PL encode and decode tones are intelligently selected, any interference to established repeaters should be minimal to nonexistent. If the portable repeater is positioned in the area where radio comm is needed, low power works wonders! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY We can't even get real emergency groups around here to use STANDARD OFFSET UHF repeaters most of the time. Color me VERY skeptical that any more than a few people will ever truly use a wide-split portable VHF repeater in a true emergency. Overloaded, stressed out people, don't respond well to dig out your manual and figure out how to program in a 2.655 split repeater. And a large number of people wouldn't or couldn't -- sad, but true. Plopping a simplex repeater or even a backup real repeater on the output of a dead repeater affected by the emergency... (no power or whatever other damage it suffered)... ... right on the regular old coordinated pair... (once you know the real repeater there is dead and down for the count)... ... is SO much more likely to be effective -- that anything else pales by way of comparison. We hams over-engineer this stuff, constantly. Some of the silly stuff I've watched so-called emergency planners come up with over the years is amazing. NONE of it can be reasonably done in a REAL emergency, and isn't, usually. (Ex: Yeah, everyone who hasn't used packet in 10 years is all of a sudden going to fire up the Statewide backbone, put a couple more BBS's on the air, and everyone's going to remember how to set up their user stations perfectly and no one's going to hog the channel or interfere with anyone else... Packet always comes up as one of the big answers ES people seem to like, and NEVER EVER really USE. We had a 1200-baud digital-regenerative repeater on the air from a site that had 5W outdoor 150+ mile coverage, and it was on the air for 5 or more years. Know how many users it had? Maybe 5. Was it the perfect answer to the hidden node syndrome of a busy packet channel? Yes. Want to know why ARES didn't use it the two times in that 5 years they fired up packet for a real emergency? PRIVACY CONCERNS! They could make the hops they needed DIRECT so there the repeater sat, unused.) The reality of emergencies is -- real emergencies -- people will congregate on frequencies they're used to using -- even if just on the output frequency -- and by putting something THERE in a REAL emergency, it is 100% more likely to be effective and USED than anything else. In fact, that's my experience... the gaggle of hams wanders around kerchunking until they find the best coverage real repeater on the air that covers the affected emergency area, and then that repeater instantly becomes the busiest repeater around. No matter if it's the worst-engineered, or the best... if it's on the air when the big-bad-high-sites are down, and it covers the affected area -- whoever built it better hope it has the ability to handle 100% duty-cycle. Just common sense. People are going to use what they're used to, so don't over-engineer an emergency solution -- build one that capitalizes on people's repetitive and habitual nature. Build emergency RF plans SIMPLER not more complex. If I walked up to any member of ARES/RACES in Colorado and said, Without looking, can you tell me the Statewide Emergency Special Event VHF Frequency Pairs?... they'd stare at me like I was insane. Anyone here think a majority of the so-called best trained emergency communicators in the State would know them, from memory?? Have them programmed in all their radios??? Even know they exist Anyone have the 220 MHz ESE pair for Colorado memorized? 440 MHz?? Yeah, right. ;-) It might be an interesting experiment to try on a few ARES nets this week... heh heh. I could be wrong. Try this one: What's the national simplex calling frequency? Yep, they'd ALL get that one... I guarantee it. Probably for multiple bands. Maybe even for
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Ed - Thanks for pointing out that making folks remember to wait for the two-meter repeater to drop out can be stressful in a situation already full of stress. I'm hoping that the NHRC controllers will let us implement the encoding and decoding you suggest. Paul W2ARK On May 8, 2006, at 8:17 PM, wa6rqd wrote: Paul, One problem with the cross band approach is users with 440 HTs will need to wait for the two meter repeater drop delay to run out before they transmit. This also can be stressful in an emergency. You can get around this if you have the two meter repeater talkback encode PL only when the receiver squelch is open and then make the crossband box decode on two meters. Ed Yoho WA6RQD Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Eric - Thanks for the comments on duplexers. When I started this in January, I remember reading some comments about some duplexers getting out-of- tune from bouncing around (mainly in shipping) and that's what got me thinking about simplex repeaters and, now, about cross-band repeaters. Is subjecting the duplexer to vibration and shocks in a truck on a rough road really something about which to worry? One of the comments I received when I proposed using simplex repeaters was that, if a fixed-repeater went off the air because of power failures, it would be possible (with the permission of the repeater owner/trustee) to tune the simplex repeater to the fixed- repeater frequencies as a temporary measure until the fixed-repeater could be returned to service. What do you think of that? Paul W2ARK On May 8, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Eric Lemmon wrote: Paul, When you push for a wide-spaced portable repeater pair on 2m, suggest a separation of at least 3 MHz. The reason is that you can buy compact base station duplexers that are specified for 3.0 MHz spacing, but the performance rapidly deteriorates as the spacing is reduced below that point. I bought a Celwave 5085-1 duplexer that was factory tuned to a 2.655 MHz split, and it works okay with a 10 watt R1225 repeater, but it took some tweaking. The entire repeater fits into a rugged fiberglass case that is less than a cubic foot in volume. I hope to complete the final version shortly. It will be a challenge to create a 3 MHz pair in only 4 MHz of spectrum, but it can be done. Let's not forget that the purpose is to support *temporary* communications of an emergency nature. While it would be nice to have a pair permanently set aside for this purpose, I'll bet that a true emergency will trump any other claim to existing frequencies. If the PL encode and decode tones are intelligently selected, any interference to established repeaters should be minimal to nonexistent. If the portable repeater is positioned in the area where radio comm is needed, low power works wonders! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Model Number
At 05:28 PM 05/08/06, you wrote: Can anyone tell me what this Mitrek Radio band split is XT34JJA3900DK HUE 1072CPR Randy Go to www.repeater-builder.com, then click on Motorola, then Mitrek, then scroll down to Mitrek Model and Chassis Numbers. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Nate - You did a great job of answering the question I posed to Eric before I read this. Parking a standby itinerant repeater on a pair of frequencies that are temporarily down due to the emergency does make a lot of sense. Hopefully this discussion will spark some inter- association cooperation and exercises. In an emergency, hams in the area may have serious problems of their own that demand attention and the solution to communication problems will be resolved by hams from neighboring areas who move their time, talent, and equipment in just as volunteer firemen move up to man vacant fire stations while the local firefighters are busy elsewhere. Your comments about preparedness are right on the mark. I took the trouble to become a certified planner in connection with my NYSDOT career but I know a lot of other planners who ought to be certified (and not with the AICP designation). A week or so ago, I had almost decided to forget about providing a standby repeater of some sort in my Sprinter ARK but this discussion has revived my plans and I'm very appreciative of the response from all you experts. My telecommunications background goes back over fifty years in the telephone business where I worked on a lot of magneto crank phones and step-by-step dial systems and I've only been a ham since January when some other hams scoffed at my idea of furnishing a GMRS repeater that volunteers who were not hams but had access to some bubble-pack hand-helds could use. You folks have come up with a lot of great ideas that I plan to discuss with the repeater coordinators and I need all the help I can get. Thank you all! Paul W2ARK On May 8, 2006, at 8:51 PM, Nate Duehr wrote: We can't even get real emergency groups around here to use STANDARD OFFSET UHF repeaters most of the time. Color me VERY skeptical that any more than a few people will ever truly use a wide-split portable VHF repeater in a true emergency. Overloaded, stressed out people, don't respond well to dig out your manual and figure out how to program in a 2.655 split repeater. And a large number of people wouldn't or couldn't -- sad, but true. Plopping a simplex repeater or even a backup real repeater on the output of a dead repeater affected by the emergency... (no power or whatever other damage it suffered)... ... right on the regular old coordinated pair... (once you know the real repeater there is dead and down for the count)... ... is SO much more likely to be effective -- that anything else pales by way of comparison. We hams over-engineer this stuff, constantly. Some of the silly stuff I've watched so-called emergency planners come up with over the years is amazing. NONE of it can be reasonably done in a REAL emergency, and isn't, usually. (Ex: Yeah, everyone who hasn't used packet in 10 years is all of a sudden going to fire up the Statewide backbone, put a couple more BBS's on the air, and everyone's going to remember how to set up their user stations perfectly and no one's going to hog the channel or interfere with anyone else... Packet always comes up as one of the big answers ES people seem to like, and NEVER EVER really USE. We had a 1200-baud digital-regenerative repeater on the air from a site that had 5W outdoor 150+ mile coverage, and it was on the air for 5 or more years. Know how many users it had? Maybe 5. Was it the perfect answer to the hidden node syndrome of a busy packet channel? Yes. Want to know why ARES didn't use it the two times in that 5 years they fired up packet for a real emergency? PRIVACY CONCERNS! They could make the hops they needed DIRECT so there the repeater sat, unused.) The reality of emergencies is -- real emergencies -- people will congregate on frequencies they're used to using -- even if just on the output frequency -- and by putting something THERE in a REAL emergency, it is 100% more likely to be effective and USED than anything else. In fact, that's my experience... the gaggle of hams wanders around kerchunking until they find the best coverage real repeater on the air that covers the affected emergency area, and then that repeater instantly becomes the busiest repeater around. No matter if it's the worst-engineered, or the best... if it's on the air when the big-bad-high-sites are down, and it covers the affected area -- whoever built it better hope it has the ability to handle 100% duty-cycle. Just common sense. People are going to use what they're used to, so don't over-engineer an emergency solution -- build one that capitalizes on people's repetitive and habitual nature. Build emergency RF plans SIMPLER not more complex. If I walked up to any member of ARES/RACES in Colorado and said, Without looking, can you tell me the Statewide Emergency Special Event VHF Frequency Pairs?... they'd stare at me like I was insane. Anyone here think a majority
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Paul, Full-size BpBr cavity duplexers can easily be detuned with rough handling, especially when the box is dropped on its side- which puts sideways shock loads on the center tuning element. Notch-only duplexers of the mobile type are, by design, far more resistant to vibration and rough handling. The Celwave 5085-1 duplexer I cited is a notch-only duplexer that is about 50% larger in all dimensions than a typical mobile duplexer, but it should be nearly as rugged. I don't expect this portable repeater to be bouncing around in the bed of a pickup; it will likely be strapped to a shock-mounted storage shelf in my RAV4, along with magnetic mount antennas and a telescoping mast. A simplex repeater on an existing repeater pair is an excellent idea. I already have one in service, being tested on a coordinated pair assigned to me. It is a Motorola SM50 VHF radio connected to a Zetron 19B Simplexor simplex repeater controller. It listens on the repeater input frequency and plays back on the repeater output frequency. A Comm-Spec ID-8 performs the identification functions while the repeater is in use. It gets used a lot by Hams who want to hear how their radio sounds. I will be the first to admit that a simplex repeater (isn't that an oxymoron?) gets to be tiresome to use real fast, and some users get annoyed by hearing everything twice. But, hey, in an emergency it works. One of the posters commented that it would be chaos while everyone tried to reprogram their radios to the special wide-split portable repeater frequency. Not! The majority of the Hams who will use this portable repeater are fully-trained ARES members who test their equipment on a weekly basis on several nets, and all of their personal radios are pre-programmed. One of the local ARES groups has a cache of Motorola HT750 portable radios which are already programmed with every local repeater, including the wide-spaced portable. We take emergency preparedness seriously in my neck of the woods, and we don't expect or need to have a sudden influx of clueless people who don't know how to program their own equipment. It is a requirement that each ARES member have in his or her possession a valid Disaster Services Worker identification badge issued by the County Office of Emergency Services. Mandatory refresher training, including CPR, is routine. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Yonge Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:20 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters Eric - Thanks for the comments on duplexers. When I started this in January, I remember reading some comments about some duplexers getting out-of- tune from bouncing around (mainly in shipping) and that's what got me thinking about simplex repeaters and, now, about cross-band repeaters. Is subjecting the duplexer to vibration and shocks in a truck on a rough road really something about which to worry? One of the comments I received when I proposed using simplex repeaters was that, if a fixed-repeater went off the air because of power failures, it would be possible (with the permission of the repeater owner/trustee) to tune the simplex repeater to the fixed- repeater frequencies as a temporary measure until the fixed-repeater could be returned to service. What do you think of that? Paul W2ARK Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Model Number
Randy, I believe you have a 30 watt radio intended for the 450-470 MHz band. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Model Number Can anyone tell me what this Mitrek Radio band split is XT34JJA3900DK HUE 1072CPR Randy Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Eric - Thanks for the education on duplexers. I had planned to stow the repeater in a Pelican case but some of our New York roads are a little rough especially if we're looking for a high point in the vicinity of an incident. Your comments on preparedness are well- presented. If we want to do a job right, we need to plan and train and practice Well, you've gotten me all fired up again on the simplex repeater idea. Hearing everything twice isn't a bad idea. In the telephone business, we solved a lot of operator problems by service observing that consisted of recording a sample of each operator's calls and then calling them in and asking them if they'd like to hear what they sounded like before we erased the tape. We didn't need to say a word and the look on each operator's face as they said Oh, no! or Is that what I sound like?' or Did I say that? showed it was the best training they could ever get. Paul W2ARK On May 8, 2006, at 9:59 PM, Eric Lemmon wrote: Paul, A simplex repeater on an existing repeater pair is an excellent idea. I already have one in service, being tested on a coordinated pair assigned to me. It is a Motorola SM50 VHF radio connected to a Zetron 19B Simplexor simplex repeater controller. It listens on the repeater input frequency and plays back on the repeater output frequency. A Comm-Spec ID-8 performs the identification functions while the repeater is in use. It gets used a lot by Hams who want to hear how their radio sounds. I will be the first to admit that a simplex repeater (isn't that an oxymoron?) gets to be tiresome to use real fast, and some users get annoyed by hearing everything twice. But, hey, in an emergency it works. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
