[Repeater-Builder] DingoTel 2Way radio internet bridge

2006-05-29 Thread Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
Anyone have any experience with this device?

http://www.dingotel.com/2way/index.asp

Dex




 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micro Exciter, Low Output?

2006-05-29 Thread George Sintchak
Don, You don't mention what band/frequency the Micor is on, (I assume 
UHF) and if you have a station monitor as you stated, it has a 
wattmeter built in that can measure the power level from the low 
level exciter board up through the output stage. Of course, you'll 
need an RF RCA connector to connect to the low level exciter board 
output. Not sure what you mean by the statement What 
difference should I see in exciter output from sitting in an no 
receive, idle state, opposed to transmitting? ???

George

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, donlspivey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I'm currently in the process of converting a Micor (unified type 
 chassis) base station to repeater duty. I have all factory docs, a 
 service monitor and a Motorola test set, unfortunately I don't have 
a 
 low wattage slug for my wattmeter.
 
 I was fortunate (dumb luck, I guess) to find two Micor Unified 
chassis 
 with ALL ham band split components, (one is missing the PA and 
power 
 control boards, but it has the good receiver). I've got it up and 
 running using the original squelch gate card and station control 
 module for now. It receives great, the COR is tripping but it's not 
 yet transmitting.
 
 Not having a means of measuring the 400mw output of the exciter, 
I'm 
 depending on the ball park readings the manual and various 
articles 
 I've found say the test set should be displaying. 
 
 I tuned the exciter as per the manual, however, when plugging the 
test 
 set into the PA and switched to position 1, the manual says there 
 should be a reading of 15uA which is drive from the exciter, I'm 
only 
 seeing 3 or 4uA. I tuned up the second exciter and see the same 
 reading. I swapped the exciter filter and no change. I even took a 
 TFD6112APR filter, drilled holes to allow retuning and tuned it 
under 
 operating conditions, same reading.
 
 I'm either seeing a false reading from the test set or there's a 
 problem with the PA/power control board (if it's not an issue with 
the 
 exciter(s), of course). 
 
 I did not have the luxury of testing the base station first, the 
 crystals were removed from the channel elements. Yes weird, but I 
 believe these base stations were used by the FBI at one time.
 
 Also, I currently have the xmit channel element running all the 
time. 
 I may not leave it this way, but this machine is going to a site of 
 limited accessibility and I want to age the crystal. What 
difference 
 should I see in exciter output from sitting in an no receive, idle 
 state, opposed to transmitting?
 
 I could be missing something simple and obvious here, but I would 
 appreciate a push in the right direction as well as any tips and 
 tricks you guys may have to help me finish this project. Thanks.
 
 Don









 
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[Repeater-Builder] GE Repeater Control Board

2006-05-29 Thread FHS





Does anybody have the following GE Repeater Control 
Board that they would be willing to give up.
19D417385G1 or -G2
Please contact me direct.
seamansfh @ sbcglobal . net
Many Thanks
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] DingoTel 2Way radio internet bridge

2006-05-29 Thread Thomas E. Ketchum
I have not used one before, but I ordered a couple to check out. Seems like 
it could be a pretty cool item, I can think of plenty of uses for it.

tk


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DingoTel 2Way radio internet bridge


Anyone have any experience with this device?

http://www.dingotel.com/2way/index.asp

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micro Exciter, Low Output?

2006-05-29 Thread donlspivey
Sorry, my oversite. It is vhf and I don't have a wattmeter capable 
of 1 watt or less. I need to invest in the proper slug for my 
wattmeter, no doubt.

With the xmit channel element always running, I see a continous 
measurable output from the exciter or the test set. No difference 
whether the repeater is in xmit mode or idle. Just curious as to 
what I should be seeing. I have a spare exciter board and aligned 
both as per manual, both give the exact reading which is down from 
what the manual gives as typical..Thanks...Don 

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, George Sintchak 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Don, You don't mention what band/frequency the Micor is on, (I 
assume 
 UHF) and if you have a station monitor as you stated, it has a 
 wattmeter built in that can measure the power level from the low 
 level exciter board up through the output stage. Of course, you'll 
 need an RF RCA connector to connect to the low level exciter 
board 
 output. Not sure what you mean by the statement What 
 difference should I see in exciter output from sitting in an no 
 receive, idle state, opposed to transmitting? ???
 
 George
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, donlspivey dspivey@ 
 wrote:
 
  I'm currently in the process of converting a Micor (unified type 
  chassis) base station to repeater duty. I have all factory docs, 
a 
  service monitor and a Motorola test set, unfortunately I don't 
have 
 a 
  low wattage slug for my wattmeter.
  
  I was fortunate (dumb luck, I guess) to find two Micor Unified 
 chassis 
  with ALL ham band split components, (one is missing the PA and 
 power 
  control boards, but it has the good receiver). I've got it up 
and 
  running using the original squelch gate card and station control 
  module for now. It receives great, the COR is tripping but it's 
not 
  yet transmitting.
  
  Not having a means of measuring the 400mw output of the exciter, 
 I'm 
  depending on the ball park readings the manual and various 
 articles 
  I've found say the test set should be displaying. 
  
  I tuned the exciter as per the manual, however, when plugging 
the 
 test 
  set into the PA and switched to position 1, the manual says 
there 
  should be a reading of 15uA which is drive from the exciter, I'm 
 only 
  seeing 3 or 4uA. I tuned up the second exciter and see the same 
  reading. I swapped the exciter filter and no change. I even took 
a 
  TFD6112APR filter, drilled holes to allow retuning and tuned it 
 under 
  operating conditions, same reading.
  
  I'm either seeing a false reading from the test set or there's a 
  problem with the PA/power control board (if it's not an issue 
with 
 the 
  exciter(s), of course). 
  
  I did not have the luxury of testing the base station first, the 
  crystals were removed from the channel elements. Yes weird, but 
I 
  believe these base stations were used by the FBI at one time.
  
  Also, I currently have the xmit channel element running all the 
 time. 
  I may not leave it this way, but this machine is going to a site 
of 
  limited accessibility and I want to age the crystal. What 
 difference 
  should I see in exciter output from sitting in an no receive, 
idle 
  state, opposed to transmitting?
  
  I could be missing something simple and obvious here, but I 
would 
  appreciate a push in the right direction as well as any tips 
and 
  tricks you guys may have to help me finish this project. 
Thanks.
  
  Don
 










 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] DingoTel 2Way radio internet bridge

2006-05-29 Thread Ronny Julian
A USB Echolink bridge?  Wonder if it's compatible?




Thomas E. Ketchum wrote:

I have not used one before, but I ordered a couple to check out. Seems like 
it could be a pretty cool item, I can think of plenty of uses for it.

tk


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Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 6:42 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DingoTel 2Way radio internet bridge


Anyone have any experience with this device?

http://www.dingotel.com/2way/index.asp

Dex





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[Repeater-Builder] Oh those inspection stories...

2006-05-29 Thread skipp025
Hi Neil, 

Although the example story deviation was excessive, I'm not 
sure the citation would have actually stuck in a band where 
wideband experimental amateur radio modes are allowed. The 
results could have played out a number of different ways. 

I have found cases where the inspection people were quite nice, 
very smart and interested in making sure the spirit of the law 
is pretty much in effect. I've also found cases where the 
converse was the deal of the day. 

The best thing one could hope for is to stay off the FCC's radar 
screen by being realistic (not a division of Tandy Corportation) 
and keeping your paperwork straight. 

A lot of people will call upon the authorities to deal with a 
problem and then act surprised when the inspectors also want to 
check out the reporting parties equipment and licenses. Beware 
of what you ask for the other person as it will surely also 
happen to you... 

cheers,
skipp 

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   Quite a number of years ago, I knew of an FCC inspection of a
  repeater site in southern California - apparently the inspector 
  didn't know what he was looking at. 
 
   As the story went, he removed the output of the exciter to 
  measure the RF power there ... The exciter consisted of a rack 
  mounted Motorola U44BBT. 
 
   I don't remember the rest of the story but the system owner got 
  cited for excessive deviation - was running +/- 10 kHz or so. 
  This was in the amateur band ... before most of the systems had 
  gone to +/- 5 kHz.  
 
   Neil - WA6KLA 








 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micro Exciter, Low Output?

2006-05-29 Thread Jeff DePolo
 With the xmit channel element always running, I see a continous 
 measurable output from the exciter or the test set. No difference 
 whether the repeater is in xmit mode or idle. Just curious as to 
 what I should be seeing. I have a spare exciter board and aligned 
 both as per manual, both give the exact reading which is down from 
 what the manual gives as typical..Thanks...Don 

You should see a significant jump in output when the transmitter is keyed.
I don't have a manual in front of me, but from what I remember, the last two
(three?) multiplier stages get powered when the transmitter is keyed.  If
you're not seeing any change in reading, it's my guess that the exciter
isn't really being keyed, probably due to either a mis-configuration of
jumpers on the backplane or a card not installed or properly jumpered.  It
could be something as simple as the PL board isn't installed in the exciter,
or the jumper needs to be installed if the PL encoder isn't used.  I can
pull a manual later and give you the most likely suspects later if you
don't find it on your own.

If you have some pads (of known accuracy), you could attenuate the exciter
output sufficiently to feed it to the spectrum analyzer in your service
monitor and get a ballpark measurement of the output that way.

--- Jeff





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Oh those inspection stories...

2006-05-29 Thread n . mckie

  Hi Skipp 

Hi Neil, 

Although the example story deviation was excessive, I'm not 
sure the citation would have actually stuck in a band where 
wideband experimental amateur radio modes are allowed. The 
results could have played out a number of different ways. 

  I would believe the response to the citation would have been 
 there is no specification in Part 97 of the FCC regulations 
 about deviation or some such.


I have found cases where the inspection people were quite nice, 
very smart and interested in making sure the spirit of the law 
is pretty much in effect. I've also found cases where the 
converse was the deal of the day. 

The best thing one could hope for is to stay off the FCC's radar 
screen by being realistic (not a division of Tandy Corportation) 
and keeping your paperwork straight. 

A lot of people will call upon the authorities to deal with a 
problem and then act surprised when the inspectors also want to 
check out the reporting parties equipment and licenses. Beware 
of what you ask for the other person as it will surely also 
happen to you... 

  Except for license tests, I have had never been contacted by 
 commission employees except once by someone in the Los Angeles 
 office.  

  At the time, I was the amateur band UHF frequency coordinator 
 in southern California.  He wanted to know who was on a certain 
 frequency.  Looking at my info chart, I told him who.  Also let 
 him know how to locate the person.  His repeater on Mt. Wilson 
 at the time, was spurious and was causing interference. 

  The transmitter, as I remember, was an RCA CSU15 ... 


cheers,
skipp 

  Neil 



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   Quite a number of years ago, I knew of an FCC inspection of a
  repeater site in southern California - apparently the inspector 
  didn't know what he was looking at. 
 
   As the story went, he removed the output of the exciter to 
  measure the RF power there ... The exciter consisted of a rack 
  mounted Motorola U44BBT. 
 
   I don't remember the rest of the story but the system owner got 
  cited for excessive deviation - was running +/- 10 kHz or so. 
  This was in the amateur band ... before most of the systems had 
  gone to +/- 5 kHz.  
 
   Neil - WA6KLA 








 
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[Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-110 Yahoo Group

2006-05-29 Thread Jim Brown
Anyone know what has happened to the RC-110 Group?  Wonder if it is a 
personal problem or has the group been disbanded?


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-110 Yahoo Group

2006-05-29 Thread Matt Beasant
Ken's ( the owner )been to Dayton - try again and see if you get it this 
time.

I think Ken is on this list too

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Anyone know what has happened to the RC-110 Group?  Wonder if it is a
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-110 Yahoo Group

2006-05-29 Thread n . mckie

  Yep, he's here ... at least, somewhere ... 

  If it is a panic, I can call him for you ... 

  Neil 

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Ken's ( the owner )been to Dayton - try again and see if you get it
this 
time.

I think Ken is on this list too

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[Repeater-Builder] Winegard TV pre-amps

2006-05-29 Thread JOHN MACKEY
It seems to me that this group has had discussions before about Winegard TV
pre-amps causing wide-band RF noise.  Does anyone know if there is a good
model of TV pre-amp that works for the job intended but does not cause the RF
noise?

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-110 Yahoo Group

2006-05-29 Thread mch
Looks like you joined just before Dayton (read: really busy time). I
would try subbing again.

Joe M.

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[Repeater-Builder] S-COM 7330 First Look!

2006-05-29 Thread scomind







At last, photos and hard data on the 7330 athttp://www.scomcontrollers.com!Please 
check out the New Directions paper as well as theother new material. 
It discusses the philosophies behind this new line ofcontrollers and 
helps show why the project has taken so much 
well-spenttime!We'll be adding more data to the site in the next 
few days.My thanks toKevin for allowing us to make these 
announcements on theRepeater Builderlist.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Winegard TV pre-amps

2006-05-29 Thread Adam Vazquez Kb2jpd
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
 It seems to me that this group has had discussions before about Winegard TV
 pre-amps causing wide-band RF noise.  Does anyone know if there is a good
 model of TV pre-amp that works for the job intended but does not cause the RF
 noise?

 thanks


   
Try Motorola. They are built.

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