[Repeater-Builder] Cushman 302 Deviation Meter

[ocwarren2000]

Hi again, everybody...

The Operations / Service Manual for the Cushman 302 Deviation Meter has 
been uploaded.

Dick, W7TIO

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter

[ka9qjg]

 
 I use to Buy the Cheap  Nice shiny Connectors  at  Places like Radio
shack and hamfest ,  Then I started putting Repeaters together 220 and
440 ,   And Playing with 900Mhz that's when I found out that Cheap
connectors  are Crap .
 
So the next time I went to a Hamfest a Guy had some Boxes of Nice Shiny
Gold/Silver looking Connectors Cheap ,  Then I noticed a box of old
Amphenol ,New but Tarnished Silver  Connectors and I ask How much You
want for the Old looking ones , He said Heck if You want  the old ones
You can have the whole Box for $ 10.00 ,  I gave him the $10.00 dollars
and I grabbed the  Box Full  and never looked back  USE Good Connectors
or You will pay for it later.
 
PS I Also have seen People who would Still stand there knowing they were
getting a Great deal and still try and get the Person to sell cheaper ,
Ha Ha  
 
Don KA9QJG 
 
 
 

[Repeater-Builder] Cushman C E-3 Operations / Service Manual

[ocwarren2000]

Hi everybody...

The replacment CD-ROM of the Cushman CE-3 Operations / Service Manual 
came today, and so far it doesn't look like a mismarked Lotus Pro 
install system!  I've uploaded it into this board's files.  Hope it 
helps.

I have another on the deviation meter module that I'll upload..

Best,

Dick, W7TIO

RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....

[no6b]

At 4/19/2008 20:21, you wrote:

>So where are these famous brats being sold? This will be my first year at
>Dayton, and I want to be sure I take in all the "important" sights and
>activities.

As I recall they're sold out of a stand adjacent to the arena in the flea 
market area.

>Also, what's the secret Repeater-Builder "handshake" or is the group using
>any specific simplex freq? Just so I know who I'm meeting when I get
>there hehehe

Simplex is kind of tough in all that RF - sometimes 2 HTs can't hear each 
other across the ends of the complex.  Commercial HTs probably don't have 
this problem but most attendees don't have them.  Fortunately there are 
many repeaters set up in the flea market that solve this problem.

I'll be monitoring my 2 meter portable repeater, which will be in the lot 
across the street.  147.750 in/144.930 out, PL-123.0.

Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter

[no6b]

At 4/19/2008 17:51, you wrote:


>Pics are here:
>
>http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/connector1.jpg
>
>http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/connector2.jpg

I have an adapter in my RF box that looks a lot like that one.  Return loss 
didn't measure quite as good as some of my newer silver plated N-SO239 
adapters.  Ddn't know the brand but the physical length is much shorter.

Anyways, funny we both discovered an odd source of desense today: for me, 
it was the UHF port of a Larsen cross band diplexer, model AD 2/70.  This 
is the one with no pigtails & seamless metal case construction.  Must be 
something loose inside, as the amount of desense changes when I pound on it 
- sometimes it goes away completely but it isn't stable enough to use.  So 
it gets a "NGFD" tag (no good for duplex).

>Even quality can fail!

Anything can fail.  Quality is less likely but less != zero.

Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT

[MCH]

Still waiting for the list name

Joe M.

MCH wrote:
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> 
> Joe M.
> 
> Paul Finch wrote:
>> Hello,
>>  
>> If interested there is now a Dayton Hamvention group on Yahoo.  Sounds like
>> the Dayton people put it up to help, not many people on it yet.  Just
>> thought I would mention it.
>>  
>> Paul
>>  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter

[Ken Arck]

At 08:17 PM 4/19/2008, Eric Lemmon wrote:


>Nevertheless, we must all be vigilant of the presence in the marketplace of
>marginal-quality connectors and adaptors. I think we all have local
>"experts" who are the first to tout "silver-plated Mil-Spec PL-259
>connectors for $1 each" or "Genuine Mil-Spec RG-213 coaxial cable for just
>40 cents per foot!" The fact that neither the connectors nor the cable are
>produced by a supplier listed on the Qualified Product List published by
>Uncle Sam never seems to be questioned by a single buyer, is troubling. I
>guess too many people are eager to believe the hype, and never check the
>credentials...


<---Indeed. Which is why I was sure to point out that this particular 
one was a genuine silver plated Amphenol and not some cheap Radio 
Shack knockoff. I learned a long time ago the folly of trying to 
scimp on cheap connectors for *any* purpose, especially in RF 
critical applications.

Ken

[Repeater-Builder] Need time delay circut

[Thomas Oliver]

I want to install a timer to inhibit ptt until my tubes warm up on my 
transmitter, anyone got any favorites?

I am using a .375K Micor PURC and when power is interrupted and comes back on 
the exciter drives cold tubes.  Motorola didn't  think that was too much of a 
problem I guess.

thanks

tom

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter

[Chuck Kelsey]

Eric,

I think it's more related to ham "thriftiness" than anything else. Most of 
us are too quick to go for the cheaper. I'm guilty of it - but I try to 
reform. Yet relapses seem to happen once in a while. Luckily Radio Shack has 
stopped stocking anything other than batteries and cell phones ;-)

For instance, can you still buy 12 VDC, DPDT PCB-mount relays for 75 cents, 
$1.00 max I think you should be able to, but I can't seem to find them 
for that price any more.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter



> I guess too many people are eager to believe the hype, and never check the
> credentials...
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....

[n9wys]

So where are these famous brats being sold?  This will be my first year at
Dayton, and I want to be sure I take in all the "important" sights and
activities.

Also, what's the secret Repeater-Builder "handshake" or is the group using
any specific simplex freq?  Just so I know who I'm meeting when I get
there  hehehe

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Nate Duehr

Paul Finch wrote:

I may still fly out, if all the airlines haven't gone under by then.

I want a braut.  ;-)

Nate WY0X

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter

[Eric Lemmon]

Ken,

Your experience adds credence to the oft-mentioned admonition to always use
the appropriate connector on every cable, so that no adaptors or barrels are
needed.  However, that is not always possible, and in your particular case
it was unavoidable.  I make this statement as an observation and not as a
criticism.

Nevertheless, we must all be vigilant of the presence in the marketplace of
marginal-quality connectors and adaptors.  I think we all have local
"experts" who are the first to tout "silver-plated Mil-Spec PL-259
connectors for $1 each" or "Genuine Mil-Spec RG-213 coaxial cable for just
40 cents per foot!"  The fact that neither the connectors nor the cable are
produced by a supplier listed on the Qualified Product List published by
Uncle Sam never seems to be questioned by a single buyer, is troubling.  I
guess too many people are eager to believe the hype, and never check the
credentials...

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


 
- Original Message - 
From: Ken Arck   
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:51 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter


Just thought I'd share this with everyone in case you face the same
thing.

My 2 meter machine started experiencing noticeable desense about a 
week ago. No real serious weather had occurred during this time,
just 
the usual Oregon rain. As I had replaced the antenna and hardline 
about 2 months ago, my first thought was water infiltration.

I went to the site this afternoon (can you believe it was snowing in

April? - Damn that global warming!) and the first thing I did was 
check VSWR between the duplexer and hardline feed to the antenna. 60

watts forward, zero reflected. Whew, it's probably not the antenna
or 
hardline (no fun when you're dealing with an almost 200 foot tower).

The next step was to check the VSWR between the duplexer and PA. 
Cool, 90 watts forward, < 1 reflected. H, the desense is still 
there. Ok, back to the duplexer output "just in case". Still the
same 
- no reflected power but wait! The desense is gone! So what was 
different between no Bird and the Bird in line?

As it turned out, it was an SO239 to N adapter that I had used 
because I didn't have the proper stinger with me when we replaced
the 
hardline. The adapter is used between the stinger (which has a PL239

on one end) and the duplexer, which is an N. And while the adapter 
was a genuine Amphenol (silver plated and everything), I found out 
when I got home that the center conductor connection was only
crimped 
and that center conductor was cracked. Placing the Bird in line 
required not using the adapter so voila!

I used another adapter I had with me and the repeater is working 
great again. You better believe I'm headed back up to tomorrow with
a 
proper stinger with N connectors!
Even quality can fail!

Ken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter

[rwhitetexas]

I have seen the identical problem with some adapters (mine were the opposite 
sex as yours at both ends) given to me new in the plastic shrink wrap. These 
were supplied by Motorola for our use in some equipment they sold us. I took a 
few home and it was not long until I had one suffer a similar fate, but what 
happened to me is that the center conductor pulled out w/o me knowing it after 
a few uses and then when I used it the next time, it was "kind" open!

I ended up having two out of four adapters bad.

Roger W5RD 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ken Arck 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:51 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter


  Just thought I'd share this with everyone in case you face the same thing.

  My 2 meter machine started experiencing noticeable desense about a 
  week ago. No real serious weather had occurred during this time, just 
  the usual Oregon rain. As I had replaced the antenna and hardline 
  about 2 months ago, my first thought was water infiltration.

  I went to the site this afternoon (can you believe it was snowing in 
  April? - Damn that global warming!) and the first thing I did was 
  check VSWR between the duplexer and hardline feed to the antenna. 60 
  watts forward, zero reflected. Whew, it's probably not the antenna or 
  hardline (no fun when you're dealing with an almost 200 foot tower).

  The next step was to check the VSWR between the duplexer and PA. 
  Cool, 90 watts forward, < 1 reflected. H, the desense is still 
  there. Ok, back to the duplexer output "just in case". Still the same 
  - no reflected power but wait! The desense is gone! So what was 
  different between no Bird and the Bird in line?

  As it turned out, it was an SO239 to N adapter that I had used 
  because I didn't have the proper stinger with me when we replaced the 
  hardline. The adapter is used between the stinger (which has a PL239 
  on one end) and the duplexer, which is an N. And while the adapter 
  was a genuine Amphenol (silver plated and everything), I found out 
  when I got home that the center conductor connection was only crimped 
  and that center conductor was cracked. Placing the Bird in line 
  required not using the adapter so voila!

  I used another adapter I had with me and the repeater is working 
  great again. You better believe I'm headed back up to tomorrow with a 
  proper stinger with N connectors!

  Pics are here:

  http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/connector1.jpg

  http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/connector2.jpg

  Even quality can fail!

  Ken

  --
  "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the
  name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program
  until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how
  it happened." --Norman Thomas, Socialist Party presidential candidate 1936-
  68, Cofounder of the American Civil Liberties Union



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter

[Ron Wright]

Ken,

Your experience is one many run into.

It shows a repeater duplexed on one feedline is radically different than the 
typical Ham station.

Connectors that become loose or soiled can cause such problems.

When constructing a repeater one must use commercial grade construction.  The 
commercial guys do what they do for good reason.

73, ron, n9ee/r




>From: Ken Arck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/19 Sat PM 07:51:13 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter

>
>Just thought I'd share this with everyone in case you face the same thing.
>
>My 2 meter machine started experiencing noticeable desense about a 
>week ago. No real serious weather had occurred during this time, just 
>the usual Oregon rain. As I had replaced the antenna and hardline 
>about 2 months ago, my first thought was water infiltration.
>
>I went to the site this afternoon (can you believe it was snowing in 
>April? -  Damn that global warming!) and the first thing I did was 
>check VSWR between the duplexer and hardline feed to the antenna. 60 
>watts forward, zero reflected. Whew, it's probably not the antenna or 
>hardline (no fun when you're dealing with an almost 200 foot tower).
>
>The next step was to check the VSWR between the duplexer and PA. 
>Cool, 90 watts forward, < 1  reflected. H, the desense is still 
>there. Ok, back to the duplexer output "just in case". Still the same 
>- no reflected power but wait! The desense is gone! So what was 
>different between no Bird and the Bird in line?
>
>As it turned out, it was an SO239 to N adapter that I had used 
>because I didn't have the proper stinger with me when we replaced the 
>hardline. The adapter is used between the stinger (which has a PL239 
>on one end) and the duplexer, which is an N. And while the adapter 
>was a genuine Amphenol (silver plated and everything), I found out 
>when I got home that the center conductor connection was only crimped 
>and that center conductor was cracked. Placing the Bird in line 
>required not using the adapter so voila!
>
>I used another adapter I had with me and the repeater is working 
>great again. You better believe I'm headed back up to tomorrow with a 
>proper stinger with N connectors!
>
>Pics are here:
>
>http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/connector1.jpg
>
>http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/connector2.jpg
>
>Even quality can fail!
>
>Ken
>
>--
>"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the
>name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program
>until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how
>it happened." --Norman Thomas, Socialist Party presidential candidate 1936-
>68, Cofounder of the American Civil Liberties Union
>
>   
> 


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.

[Repeater-Builder] Bad adapter

[Ken Arck]

Just thought I'd share this with everyone in case you face the same thing.

My 2 meter machine started experiencing noticeable desense about a 
week ago. No real serious weather had occurred during this time, just 
the usual Oregon rain. As I had replaced the antenna and hardline 
about 2 months ago, my first thought was water infiltration.

I went to the site this afternoon (can you believe it was snowing in 
April? -  Damn that global warming!) and the first thing I did was 
check VSWR between the duplexer and hardline feed to the antenna. 60 
watts forward, zero reflected. Whew, it's probably not the antenna or 
hardline (no fun when you're dealing with an almost 200 foot tower).

The next step was to check the VSWR between the duplexer and PA. 
Cool, 90 watts forward, < 1  reflected. H, the desense is still 
there. Ok, back to the duplexer output "just in case". Still the same 
- no reflected power but wait! The desense is gone! So what was 
different between no Bird and the Bird in line?

As it turned out, it was an SO239 to N adapter that I had used 
because I didn't have the proper stinger with me when we replaced the 
hardline. The adapter is used between the stinger (which has a PL239 
on one end) and the duplexer, which is an N. And while the adapter 
was a genuine Amphenol (silver plated and everything), I found out 
when I got home that the center conductor connection was only crimped 
and that center conductor was cracked. Placing the Bird in line 
required not using the adapter so voila!

I used another adapter I had with me and the repeater is working 
great again. You better believe I'm headed back up to tomorrow with a 
proper stinger with N connectors!


Pics are here:

http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/connector1.jpg

http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/connector2.jpg

Even quality can fail!

Ken





---
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the
name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program
until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how
it happened." --Norman Thomas, Socialist Party presidential candidate 1936-
68, Cofounder of the American Civil Liberties Union

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Daniels Electronics repeaters wanted

[sgreact47]

Is there any service information available on these older modules?
>
> > I'm looking for Daniels repeaters or components, older equipment 
> > like MT-2 or MT-3, VHF highband and UHF analog FM.
> >
> > If there's anyone out there who can help me source any I'd be happy.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Martin
>  Give me a call
> 
> David N9CZV
> 765.546.2592
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton whale tales 101

[Ron Wright]

Skipp,

I see some dealers at Hamfest with high prices.  The ones I know go mainly to 
meet other dealers and people with commercial gear.  They are not really there 
to sell things except at commercial pricing.  They are real wheelers and 
dealers.

MSR2000s, VHF & UHF, are popping up all over for $300-400.  There were a number 
at the Orlando Hamfest last Feb.  Very good radio and worth this price.  I 
think it is the best going for a Ham repeater.  Like the Micor use to be and 
really still is.  MSF5000 would be the next upgrade choice.

73, ron, n9ee/r




>From: skipp025 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/19 Sat PM 01:34:05 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton whale tales 101

>
>Re: Dayton whale tales 101 
>
>I've noticed a guy selling surplus commercial radio 
>gear at Dayton pretty much every year I've attended. 
>A few years back the mentioned surplus Dealer had a 
>large surplus Motorola MSR-2000 Repeater for sale out 
>front of his flea market area. 
>
>I was side-tracked and never made it back to try and 
>make a deal for that box. I missed buying the repeater 
>the first year I noticed it. 
>
>Whoa..! the following year the same guy in the same 
>place had much the same gear for sale. He didn't want 
>to budge much on what I thought was a pretty high asking 
>price. I figured I'd come back on Sunday and to try and 
>make a better deal.  He closed up his booth and left 
>before I was able to return from my Hamvention Duties. 
>
>:-( 
>
>Year #3, he's still in the same location and guess what..? 
>That surplus MSR-2000 repeater is still out front at the 
>same high price. By that time I've been able to find 
>other surplus MSR-2000 gear so I'm no longer a serious 
>buyer for retail prices. 
>
>I missed year #4 (last year) but I'm looking forward to 
>visiting with my old friend to see if he's now willing 
>to make a deal in year #5. 
>
>cheers, 
>s. 
>
>ps: Just think of how much gas that guy has spent moving 
>that box 2 States over to Dayton each year. Not to mention 
>the other 3 surplus micor repeaters around it... 
>
>   
> 


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton whale tales 101

[Paul Finch]

Joe,
 
Same thing happened to me with some Johnson 559 mobile radios, that's all I
use on my Ham UHF repeaters.  I went in one day and found a stack of five
radios and base.  Looked to have been there a long time!  I went up and made
an offer of what I had been getting them for at Hamfests and he really got
mad.  He yelled at me and said, "I paid over 800 Bucks each for those radios
20 years ago and you want to come in and steal them?"  I said, never mind
and walked out.
 
About two years ago the guy passed away and the radios were still there,
from what I understand everything went in a dumpster.
 
Paul
 

   _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 2:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton whale tales 101



I've been doing hamfest for over 35 years now and there seems to be a 
small group of hams out there that enjoy showing off their valuble stuff 
at these events. (Value is in the eye of the beholder). I recently 
helped toss some of this "stuff" into a dumpster at a silent keys home. 
It was always too valuable for him to sell for a cheap price.

73, Joe, K1ike

skipp025 wrote:
> I missed year #4 (last year) but I'm looking forward to 
> visiting with my old friend to see if he's now willing 
> to make a deal in year #5. 
>
> cheers, 
> s. 
>
>
> 


 


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[Repeater-Builder] Replacement loops for VHF db cavities

[n3dab]

Think I may have asked this before, but does any one have a source for 
replacement Pass/reject loops for the DB40XX series VHF cavities.  
This would be the loop with the variable Johanson ceramic capaciter 
incorporated for adjusting the Notch. The cavities the loops mount in 
are about 20"+/- tall and 4"+/-in dia. and the loops mount in a recess 
in the top end.  Any info concerning the constructio of same would be 
appreciated also.  73's   Doug  N3DAB  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT

[Jim Cicirello]

Thanks for the information Paul. There is already road construction detour 
information that is nice to know ahead of time. 
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UF0KSDzYb3pXUEbrsxb4IErn8FAENig2A94Yn77rnijnIWiSgB6KRcqN8PQdSVFEsYI9k3tsZokjLdHbsd962UPVjA7T/HVTrafficinfo.doc

73 JIM  KA2AJH


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  From: Paul Finch 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:47 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT


  Hello,

  If interested there is now a Dayton Hamvention group on Yahoo. Sounds like
  the Dayton people put it up to help, not many people on it yet. Just
  thought I would mention it.

  Paul


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton whale tales 101

[Joe]

I've been doing hamfest for over 35 years now and there seems to be a 
small group of hams out there that enjoy showing off their valuble stuff 
at these events.  (Value is in the eye of the beholder).  I recently 
helped toss some of this "stuff" into a dumpster at a silent keys home.  
It was always too valuable for him to sell for a cheap price.

73, Joe, K1ike

skipp025 wrote:
> I missed year #4 (last year) but I'm looking forward to 
> visiting with my old friend to see if he's now willing 
> to make a deal in year #5. 
>
> cheers, 
> s. 
>
>
>   

[Repeater-Builder] Rough Service Antennas

[skipp025]

Most mfgrs are making dual tier antennas and calling (spec'ing) 
their more expensive models for rough service applications. 

Telewave, Sinclair, ComProd, Bluewave all make great antennas. 

Bluewave makes a really well built antenna I'd spec for service 
at any rough service location. 

The problem is the price of rough service antennas... they are 
really expensive.  In the Wal Mart world we now live in (global 
economy) the guy down the street will quote a mobile antenna 
on a base bracket to your full size repeater antenna so you 
should pay attention to those smaller details. 

The answer to your question... No, the Comprod and Bluewave Antennas 
are mucho more expensive versus lighter duty Sinclair and Telewave 
products.  (, which makes obvious sense)

cheers, 
skipp 

> Is your experience based on the non-HD Sinclair antennas or the "HD" 
> (heavy-duty) models.
> 
> I'm amazed if THOSE are getting "shredded"... they're damn heavy.
> 
> Serious question not an argument.  The ComProd's look nice.
> 
> Are they cheaper?

[Repeater-Builder] Dayton whale tales 101

[skipp025]

Re: Dayton whale tales 101 

I've noticed a guy selling surplus commercial radio 
gear at Dayton pretty much every year I've attended. 
A few years back the mentioned surplus Dealer had a 
large surplus Motorola MSR-2000 Repeater for sale out 
front of his flea market area. 

I was side-tracked and never made it back to try and 
make a deal for that box. I missed buying the repeater 
the first year I noticed it. 

Whoa..! the following year the same guy in the same 
place had much the same gear for sale. He didn't want 
to budge much on what I thought was a pretty high asking 
price. I figured I'd come back on Sunday and to try and 
make a better deal.  He closed up his booth and left 
before I was able to return from my Hamvention Duties. 

:-( 

Year #3, he's still in the same location and guess what..? 
That surplus MSR-2000 repeater is still out front at the 
same high price. By that time I've been able to find 
other surplus MSR-2000 gear so I'm no longer a serious 
buyer for retail prices. 

I missed year #4 (last year) but I'm looking forward to 
visiting with my old friend to see if he's now willing 
to make a deal in year #5. 

cheers, 
s. 

ps: Just think of how much gas that guy has spent moving 
that box 2 States over to Dayton each year. Not to mention 
the other 3 surplus micor repeaters around it... 

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