RE: [Repeater-Builder] looking for an input/output card with serial port and parallel port
SO what height and bus , pci pcix pcie at or something else To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:09:20 -0500 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] looking for an input/output card with serial port and parallel port Hello guys, Does anyone know where I can find an input/output card which has a serial port and a parallel port. I am wanting this to program my radios for my repeater. I need the com port or serial port more than anything else. If anyone has one or knows where to get these please let me know. Scott Berry Email: sberry at northlc.com Ham Call sign: N7ZIB _ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641_t=762955845_r=tig_OCT07_m=EXT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] looking for an input/output card with serial port and parallel port
As Tony said these are around in many places that supply computer parts. I use www.newegg.com. However, consider, as Tony said a USB to serial adapter. They are reasonably priced and don't require opening the computer..just plug it in. If a lap top then little choice...one of the USB adapters. If however, you do need the printer port then a card might suit you more. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Scott Berry N7ZIB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/11 Fri PM 10:09:20 EDT To: Repeater Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] looking for an input/output card with serial port and parallel port Hello guys, Does anyone know where I can find an input/output card whichhas a serial port and a parallel port. I am wanting this to program my radios formy repeater. I need the com port or serial port more than anything else. If anyonehas one or knows where to get these please let me know. Scott Berry Email: sberry at northlc.com Ham Call sign: N7ZIB Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna mounting hardware
Does anyone know of a source or V-clamps or the like for 5.25 legs??? Sabre, Microflect and probably Radian. You won't like the prices regardless of who sells the parts you need. cheers, s. This has to be hardware that will last 20 years and not hose clamps which I have. 73, ron, n9ee/r
Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense
My cable provider here in Tampa area, Verizon, is all digital. It is fiber. The other cable provider, Bright House, is putting in fiber, but still has many analog and digital channels on coax. Understand the FCC has mandated typical coaxial cable keep analog to I think 2012 although they can offer digital on the cable as Bright House does here. Analog is going away for many reasons. I am looking for the digital cable TV...the converter built in just as the TVs did with cable ready analog tuners. This was just more channels so simple. There are a number of digital formats used by the cable companies so would be a chore, but with tech today one chip could proably decode many formats. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/11 Fri PM 08:04:12 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense You're right, I think the majority of cable providers will be dumping analog within a few years in order to free up bandwidth for more digital channels. Richardwww.n7tgb.net From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerald Pelnar Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:38 PM To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense - Original Message - From: Dave Gomberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense DTV is the new millennium. Those who miss it get to buy cable forever. NE5EE with 39 digital channels over-the-air, most HD. And HDTV for 2 years. Not exactly. Cable here is only going to keep analog for three years after the switch to digital. Gerald Pelnar McPherson, Ks Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense
John, Even if the transmitter was at 100 W the 38 db loss in the isotee would give only 0.016 watts into the sig gen which believe me would not be a problem. Sure this is a major signal compared to a typical receiver input or sig gen output, but should not be a problem as far as the sig gen handling such on its output. Most crossband couplers have only 30 db isolation, even the expensive commercial ones. Of course the other band signals are far away in freq, but I would not have a problem connecting a sig gen to one of the ports with the other band transmitting. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: John Transue [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/11 Fri PM 07:04:01 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense I madean isotee today by cutting off the central pin in a F-M-F tee. I measured theattenuation by comparing the power through the tee to the power that escapesfrom the isotee port. With the central pin cut off flush with the dielectricthe attenuation is about 38 dB. With the central pin removed entirely theattenuation is about 71 dB. The sampling port on my Bird can be adjusted fromabout 46 to 51 dB. I am concerned that the transmitter power,as attenuated by the isotee or Bird, will still be high enough to damage thesignal generator. Has anyone had such a problem? Is there a coupler that couldprevent the transmitter power from entering the line to the signal generator? If I use the isotee with the pin removed, thesignal generator can be operated between -36 and -56 dBm to give -107 to -127 dBmat the receiver. For the transmitter power amplifier putting out 60 watts, the71 dB attenuation reduces the signal seen by the signal generator to -23 dBm. Isthis low enough to be of no concern? Ideas and comments? John P.S. The idea proposed by William494 (billb)sounds right, i.e. let the signal generator see a 50-ohm impedance. -Original Message- From:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:04AM To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re:[Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense John, The procedure is primarily measuring the site noise in your system, notdesense. It simply measured first the receiver sensitivity then connected theantenna and did the same. For the desense test we are looking to see the noise caused by the repeatertransmitter although site noise can be part of this noise. In step 3 of the test one would key and unkey the transmitter to see thedefferent effects. I think the test suggest the transmitter is keyed at alltimes. Not unkeying/keying the transmitter would give you the noise results,but not tell you if the noise is from the transmitter or some other source. Thetest is effectively telling you the site noise with all connected which isimportant. However, to determine if you have desense from your repeater you need tokey/unkey the tx. Step 1 can be removed for would think you have done this before, know thereceiver sensitivity. Doing the same with the T on the duplexer output with thetx unkeyed would be your starting reference for the receiver, then keying itwould give tx noise level. If you connect all in and do steps 2 3, but keying and unkeying the tx instep 3 is what you want to do for tx desense. We are looking for desense, not site noise in your case. Site noise isimportant, but often one can do little about it for it comes from many sourcesinclusing 100 transmitters within 10 miles of you. 73, ron, n9ee/r The test in the link is a must for repeaters and is a good one. From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/10 Thu AM 03:55:04 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense At 12:18 PM 07/09/08, you wrote: ...Ron, Don, Mark, and others, The attachment shows how I think I should connect things tomeasure desense.I would use the Bird with sampling coupler in place ofthe iso tee shown. Doesthis appear to be a correct way to measuredesense? Also, I can replace the feed line and antenna with a dummyload as Ron hasexplained. John AF4PD http://www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/effectivesens.html Mike WA6ILQ Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome. __ NOD32 3192 (20080616) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna mounting hardware
skipp, Thanks, I'll take a look. Gotta get this done. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/12 Sat AM 11:17:04 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna mounting hardware Does anyone know of a source or V-clamps or the like for 5.25 legs??? Sabre, Microflect and probably Radian. You won't like the prices regardless of who sells the parts you need. cheers, s. This has to be hardware that will last 20 years and not hose clamps which I have. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense
I made an isotee today by cutting off the central pin in a F-M-F tee. I measured the attenuation by comparing the power through the tee to the power that escapes from the isotee port. With the central pin cut off flush with the dielectric the attenuation is about 38 dB. With the central pin removed entirely the attenuation is about 71 dB. The sampling port on my Bird can be adjusted from about 46 to 51 dB. Another idea to add on that someone did at one of my former jobs was to put a barrel connector on the male port that is isolated. As you thread the barrel in and out, you get a somewhat variable attenuator, basically continuous from the 38 up to near that 71 you measured.
[Repeater-Builder] Using IsoTees (was Measuring Desense) Not to be confused with DTV
Great idea! Thanks! LW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made an isotee today by cutting off the central pin in a F-M-F tee. I measured the attenuation by comparing the power through the tee to the power that escapes from the isotee port. With the central pin cut off flush with the dielectric the attenuation is about 38 dB. With the central pin removed entirely the attenuation is about 71 dB. The sampling port on my Bird can be adjusted from about 46 to 51 dB. Another idea to add on that someone did at one of my former jobs was to put a barrel connector on the male port that is isolated. As you thread the barrel in and out, you get a somewhat variable attenuator, basically continuous from the 38 up to near that 71 you measured.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense
I did this by putting a plastic insulated washer between the connectors and tightened it down until I got the desired attenuation. I then put some shrink-tube around it to keep the adjustment from moving. This was my calibrated tee for several years. 73, Joe, K1ike wd8chl wrote: Another idea to add on that someone did at one of my former jobs was to put a barrel connector on the male port that is isolated. As you thread the barrel in and out, you get a somewhat variable attenuator, basically continuous from the 38 up to near that 71 you measured.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense
On Jul 12, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Ron Wright wrote: Understand the FCC has mandated typical coaxial cable keep analog to I think 2012 although they can offer digital on the cable as Bright House does here. Their set-top boxes have to provide analog service to the TV itself, but what they send down their distribution pipe is up to them. -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense
You can get a very nice, silver-plated, adjustable Microlab/FXR sampler (isotee) here for $15: http://www.ridgeequipment.com/store/attenuators.html I've bought a lot of stuff from Nick and the guys at Ridge Equipment over the years, both direct, via Ebay, and at Dayton. They have a lot of goodies at very reasonable prices - good guys to deal with. I have about ten of these samplers, or ones like them. They're quite handy for desense measurements, getting a sample of transmitter power to go to a spectrum analyzer, service monitor, receiver, or other test equipment that only tolerates microwatts of signal level, using it as a makeshift variable attenuator (terminate the thru-line and adjust the tap to get the desired attenuation), etc.. I keep one in the lid/pouch of each service monitor, spectrum analyzer, cable kit, etc. so I'm never caught without one. Get 'em while they're cheap! --- Jeff WN3A
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense
On Jul 12, 2008, at 2:18 PM, Jeff DePolo wrote: You can get a very nice, silver-plated, adjustable Microlab/FXR sampler (isotee) here for $15: http://www.ridgeequipment.com/store/attenuators.html Dang, you found the link before I did. I was looking for that in my records here. I also have a few of those, but I couldn't find the URL in my receipts after looking two or three times. I do the same thing one in the connector box, one in the SM lid... I like that they're N connectors on the pass-through and BNC on the injection port too. -- Nate Duehr, WY0X [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense
Ron, Don, Joe, Jeff, Nate, and others, Thanks for all the good ideas. And Ron, thanks for explaining that I won't be damaging the signal generator. I hope to make the desense measurements Monday. I'll use the isotee that I made. The signal generator has plenty of range of power so that I can get the power I need. Maybe later I can get one of the store bought adjustable isotees. John -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:48 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense John, Even if the transmitter was at 100 W the 38 db loss in the isotee would give only 0.016 watts into the sig gen which believe me would not be a problem. Sure this is a major signal compared to a typical receiver input or sig gen output, but should not be a problem as far as the sig gen handling such on its output. Most crossband couplers have only 30 db isolation, even the expensive commercial ones. Of course the other band signals are far away in freq, but I would not have a problem connecting a sig gen to one of the ports with the other band transmitting. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: John Transue [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:jtransue%40cox.net net Date: 2008/07/11 Fri PM 07:04:01 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense I madean isotee today by cutting off the central pin in a F-M-F tee. I measured theattenuation by comparing the power through the tee to the power that escapesfrom the isotee port. With the central pin cut off flush with the dielectricthe attenuation is about 38 dB. With the central pin removed entirely theattenuation is about 71 dB. The sampling port on my Bird can be adjusted fromabout 46 to 51 dB. I am concerned that the transmitter power,as attenuated by the isotee or Bird, will still be high enough to damage thesignal generator. Has anyone had such a problem? Is there a coupler that couldprevent the transmitter power from entering the line to the signal generator? If I use the isotee with the pin removed, thesignal generator can be operated between -36 and -56 dBm to give -107 to -127 dBmat the receiver. For the transmitter power amplifier putting out 60 watts, the71 dB attenuation reduces the signal seen by the signal generator to -23 dBm. Isthis low enough to be of no concern? Ideas and comments? John P.S. The idea proposed by William494 (billb)sounds right, i.e. let the signal generator see a 50-ohm impedance. -Original Message- From:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Wright Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:04AM To:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re:[Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense John, The procedure is primarily measuring the site noise in your system, notdesense. It simply measured first the receiver sensitivity then connected theantenna and did the same. For the desense test we are looking to see the noise caused by the repeatertransmitter although site noise can be part of this noise. In step 3 of the test one would key and unkey the transmitter to see thedefferent effects. I think the test suggest the transmitter is keyed at alltimes. Not unkeying/keying the transmitter would give you the noise results,but not tell you if the noise is from the transmitter or some other source. Thetest is effectively telling you the site noise with all connected which isimportant. However, to determine if you have desense from your repeater you need tokey/unkey the tx. Step 1 can be removed for would think you have done this before, know thereceiver sensitivity. Doing the same with the T on the duplexer output with thetx unkeyed would be your starting reference for the receiver, then keying itwould give tx noise level. If you connect all in and do steps 2 3, but keying and unkeying the tx instep 3 is what you want to do for tx desense. We are looking for desense, not site noise in your case. Site noise isimportant, but often one can do little about it for it comes from many sourcesinclusing 100 transmitters within 10 miles of you. 73, ron, n9ee/r The test in the link is a must for repeaters and is a good one. From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:wa6ilq%40arrl.net net Date: 2008/07/10 Thu AM 03:55:04 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense At 12:18 PM 07/09/08, you wrote: ...Ron, Don, Mark, and others, The attachment shows how I think I should connect things tomeasure desense.I would use the Bird with sampling coupler in place ofthe iso tee shown. Doesthis appear to be a correct way to measuredesense?
[Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long
Hello Scott!
Please advise the originator of this message that SPAM should not be
posted. I for one do not appreciate receiving spam via this list.
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Dan Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Dan Long [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 5:29 PM
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AMBER ALERT!
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 5:30 PM CDT
You can check on snopes.com: Reachelle Marie Smith for the full
amber alert and a different picture.
IF YOUR CHILD WAS MISSING WOULDN'T YOU PRAY THAT EVERYONE PASSED
THIS EMAIL ON?!!! PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND LOOK AND FORWARD.
A 3-year-old girl named Reachelle Marie Smith is missing from her
Minot , North Dakota Home.
You never know where this e-mail could end up and I'm not going to
stop passing this one around if it means a little girl can be found!!!
Please spread this picture far and wideYou just never know,
someone you know, might know her!
BEFORE YOU DELETE THIS, LOOK AT THE CHILD. DO IT AGAIN. NOW SEND IT
TO ALL IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IT TAKES ONLY 10 SECONDS. THANK YOU!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Measuring Desense
I don't beleive that to be correct. The FCC has mandated 3 years for the continued carriage of analog. Some exceptions on small systems and low bandwidth but most will still carry analog. Randy --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Ron Wright wrote: Understand the FCC has mandated typical coaxial cable keep analog to I think 2012 although they can offer digital on the cable as Bright House does here. Their set-top boxes have to provide analog service to the TV itself, but what they send down their distribution pipe is up to them. -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long
While I did not originate this message or have any previous part in
it's distribution, I can only wonder, Terry, if your attitude about it
might be a little different if it's contents pertained to one of those
little boys clinging to your shoulders in your picture on QRZ. The
fact that it's two years old only adds to the desperation those
parents must be feeling over this. Don't forget, you are a living
being first (even if it is only a human) and a ham second (or third or
fourth or tenth). You would do well to try to show some compassion in
that, seemingly, miserable life of yours.
Tom KB5DPE
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Scott!
Please advise the originator of this message that SPAM should not be
posted. I for one do not appreciate receiving spam via this list.
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
k9mdm@ wrote:
--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Dan Long Dan@ wrote:
From: Dan Long Dan@
Subject: FW: amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long
To: Dan@
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 5:29 PM
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AMBER ALERT!
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 5:30 PM CDT
You can check on snopes.com: Reachelle Marie Smith for the full
amber alert and a different picture.
IF YOUR CHILD WAS MISSING WOULDN'T YOU PRAY THAT EVERYONE PASSED
THIS EMAIL ON?!!! PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND LOOK AND FORWARD.
A 3-year-old girl named Reachelle Marie Smith is missing from her
Minot , North Dakota Home.
You never know where this e-mail could end up and I'm not going to
stop passing this one around if it means a little girl can be found!!!
Please spread this picture far and wideYou just never know,
someone you know, might know her!
BEFORE YOU DELETE THIS, LOOK AT THE CHILD. DO IT AGAIN. NOW SEND IT
TO ALL IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IT TAKES ONLY 10 SECONDS. THANK YOU!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long
At 11:58 PM 2008-07-12 +, Tom wrote: While I did not originate this messge or have any previous part in it's distribution, I can only wonder, Terry, if your attitude about it might be a little different if it's contents pertained to one of those little boys clinging to your shoulders in your picture on QRZ. The fact that it's two years old only adds to the desperation those parents must be feeling over this. Don't forget, you are a living being first (even if it is only a human) and a ham second (or third or fourth or tenth). You would do well to try to show some compassion in that, seemingly, miserable life of yours. Whoa. Disagree with a person that's fine. However personal attacks such as using terms like miserable life of yours are unacceptable. That said the original poster should've check snopes.com or other similar sites or just done a quick search on the girl's name. When you read the story the girl was in the company of a man who was the boyfriend of the girls aunt and legal guardian and who apparently committed suicide. Thus the chances of the girl being alive are vanishingly small. And the posting was off topic for this mailing list. Tony
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long
(1) This e-mail falsely claimed to be an Amber Alert. That's a specific process used in very recent kidnappings. This one hasn't been on Amber Alert status for over two years. (2) Crying wolf like this raises the noise level, and dulls everyone's level of alertness to real Amber Alerts for kids who might be found. (3) The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children has its own electronic notification list. That's not what this one's for. They don't use theirs for cold cases FOR A REASON. (4) If the message qualified as spam, we're all in violation of list rules by responding to it. My e-mail client can direct all incoming messages from a specific sender directly to the trash can. Works great. It now has one more banishee. Problem solved! 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Tony VE6MVP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long At 11:58 PM 2008-07-12 +, Tom wrote: While I did not originate this messge or have any previous part in it's distribution, I can only wonder, Terry, if your attitude about it might be a little different if it's contents pertained to one of those little boys clinging to your shoulders in your picture on QRZ. The fact that it's two years old only adds to the desperation those parents must be feeling over this. Don't forget, you are a living being first (even if it is only a human) and a ham second (or third or fourth or tenth). You would do well to try to show some compassion in that, seemingly, miserable life of yours. Whoa. Disagree with a person that's fine. However personal attacks such as using terms like miserable life of yours are unacceptable. That said the original poster should've check snopes.com or other similar sites or just done a quick search on the girl's name. When you read the story the girl was in the company of a man who was the boyfriend of the girls aunt and legal guardian and who apparently committed suicide. Thus the chances of the girl being alive are vanishingly small. And the posting was off topic for this mailing list. Tony
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long
You do have a point, but there are venues for this type of message,
and this list isn't one of them.
There are a couple of things I look for that indicates to me that the
message is, or bordering on, spam. One is the use of huge fonts. The
second is the line that says: send this to everyone you know. I
ignore those type of messages.
In addition, another person pointed out that it is over two years old.
Hardly breaking news.
My life isn't miserable, but I don't need those type of messages on a
list such as this.
Richard
http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net
_
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 4:59 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED,
sent to you by Dan Long
While I did not originate this message or have any previous part in
it's distribution, I can only wonder, Terry, if your attitude about it
might be a little different if it's contents pertained to one of those
little boys clinging to your shoulders in your picture on QRZ. The
fact that it's two years old only adds to the desperation those
parents must be feeling over this. Don't forget, you are a living
being first (even if it is only a human) and a ham second (or third or
fourth or tenth). You would do well to try to show some compassion in
that, seemingly, miserable life of yours.
Tom KB5DPE
--- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Scott!
Please advise the originator of this message that SPAM should not be
posted. I for one do not appreciate receiving spam via this list.
--- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
k9mdm@ wrote:
--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Dan Long Dan@ wrote:
From: Dan Long Dan@
Subject: FW: amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long
To: Dan@
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 5:29 PM
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AMBER ALERT!
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 5:30 PM CDT
You can check on snopes.com: Reachelle Marie Smith for the full
amber alert and a different picture.
IF YOUR CHILD WAS MISSING WOULDN'T YOU PRAY THAT EVERYONE PASSED
THIS EMAIL ON?!!! PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND LOOK AND FORWARD.
A 3-year-old girl named Reachelle Marie Smith is missing from her
Minot , North Dakota Home.
You never know where this e-mail could end up and I'm not going to
stop passing this one around if it means a little girl can be
found!!!
Please spread this picture far and wideYou just never know,
someone you know, might know her!
BEFORE YOU DELETE THIS, LOOK AT THE CHILD. DO IT AGAIN. NOW SEND
IT
TO ALL IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IT TAKES ONLY 10 SECONDS. THANK YOU!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Yaesu FT-2800 Solutions
Dave, I'm looking for info on the COS signal and external circuitry. Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike WM4B --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wb7cjq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody wanting to use the 2800 as the receive side of a repeater and/or remote base or Echolink system, I have (as of today) the answers!!! I can get you discriminator level gated audio as well as a COS type signal. Both will require external circuitry, but I've found those hidden little guys!!! Email or just post here. 73, Dave.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense
The one I use looks exactly like the one shown, but mine has a small disk at the end of the adjustable BNC probe. No return back to the shell, and the center conductor of the N thruline has a teflon sleeve to prevent any chance of touching the center conductor with the probe. It works great for desense measurements, and for touching up a receiver front end through the duplexer. I also use mine to couple my counter to a transmitter. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Jeff DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeff DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 3:18 PM You can get a very nice, silver-plated, adjustable Microlab/FXR sampler (isotee) here for $15: http://www.ridgeequ ipment.com/ store/attenuator s.html I've bought a lot of stuff from Nick and the guys at Ridge Equipment over the years, both direct, via Ebay, and at Dayton. They have a lot of goodies at very reasonable prices - good guys to deal with. I have about ten of these samplers, or ones like them. They're quite handy for desense measurements, getting a sample of transmitter power to go to a spectrum analyzer, service monitor, receiver, or other test equipment that only tolerates microwatts of signal level, using it as a makeshift variable attenuator (terminate the thru-line and adjust the tap to get the desired attenuation) , etc.. I keep one in the lid/pouch of each service monitor, spectrum analyzer, cable kit, etc. so I'm never caught without one. Get 'em while they're cheap! --- Jeff WN3A The one_,___
[Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long
However personal attacks such as using terms like miserable life of yours I agree, that was a poor choice of words, however a personal attack was not intended. What I meant to say instead of seemingly miserable was seemingly unhappy. As for the rest, I stand by what I said. I would rather err on the side of concern. AND, even if it is spam, it's one of a kind, it hasn't happened before in the couple of years I've been reading the board and it's not likely to happen again for a long, long time; so, while I may have overreacted to the tone of the post, MANY others overreacted to ONE piece of perceived spam, knowing full well that it was not likely to happen again for a long time, if ever. I'm outta here to go lick my wounds, this thread has already received far more attention than it deserves. Tom --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tony VE6MVP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:58 PM 2008-07-12 +, Tom wrote: While I did not originate this messge or have any previous part in it's distribution, I can only wonder, Terry, if your attitude about it might be a little different if it's contents pertained to one of those little boys clinging to your shoulders in your picture on QRZ. The fact that it's two years old only adds to the desperation those parents must be feeling over this. Don't forget, you are a living being first (even if it is only a human) and a ham second (or third or fourth or tenth). You would do well to try to show some compassion in that, seemingly, miserable life of yours. Whoa. Disagree with a person that's fine. However personal attacks such as using terms like miserable life of yours are unacceptable. That said the original poster should've check snopes.com or other similar sites or just done a quick search on the girl's name. When you read the story the girl was in the company of a man who was the boyfriend of the girls aunt and legal guardian and who apparently committed suicide. Thus the chances of the girl being alive are vanishingly small. And the posting was off topic for this mailing list. Tony
[Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long
Also, Tony, you misquoted me. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However personal attacks such as using terms like miserable life of yours I agree, that was a poor choice of words, however a personal attack was not intended. What I meant to say instead of seemingly miserable was seemingly unhappy. As for the rest, I stand by what I said. I would rather err on the side of concern. AND, even if it is spam, it's one of a kind, it hasn't happened before in the couple of years I've been reading the board and it's not likely to happen again for a long, long time; so, while I may have overreacted to the tone of the post, MANY others overreacted to ONE piece of perceived spam, knowing full well that it was not likely to happen again for a long time, if ever. I'm outta here to go lick my wounds, this thread has already received far more attention than it deserves. Tom --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tony VE6MVP tony@ wrote: At 11:58 PM 2008-07-12 +, Tom wrote: While I did not originate this messge or have any previous part in it's distribution, I can only wonder, Terry, if your attitude about it might be a little different if it's contents pertained to one of those little boys clinging to your shoulders in your picture on QRZ. The fact that it's two years old only adds to the desperation those parents must be feeling over this. Don't forget, you are a living being first (even if it is only a human) and a ham second (or third or fourth or tenth). You would do well to try to show some compassion in that, seemingly, miserable life of yours. Whoa. Disagree with a person that's fine. However personal attacks such as using terms like miserable life of yours are unacceptable. That said the original poster should've check snopes.com or other similar sites or just done a quick search on the girl's name. When you read the story the girl was in the company of a man who was the boyfriend of the girls aunt and legal guardian and who apparently committed suicide. Thus the chances of the girl being alive are vanishingly small. And the posting was off topic for this mailing list. Tony
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long
OK GUYS... Lets get back to repeaters.. Dail Terry N6DGT - Original Message From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:19:51 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long Also, Tony, you misquoted me. --- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com, Tom tallinson2@ ... wrote: However personal attacks such as using terms like miserable life of yours I agree, that was a poor choice of words, however a personal attack was not intended. What I meant to say instead of seemingly miserable was seemingly unhappy. As for the rest, I stand by what I said. I would rather err on the side of concern. AND, even if it is spam, it's one of a kind, it hasn't happened before in the couple of years I've been reading the board and it's not likely to happen again for a long, long time; so, while I may have overreacted to the tone of the post, MANY others overreacted to ONE piece of perceived spam, knowing full well that it was not likely to happen again for a long time, if ever. I'm outta here to go lick my wounds, this thread has already received far more attention than it deserves. Tom --- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com, Tony VE6MVP tony@ wrote: At 11:58 PM 2008-07-12 +, Tom wrote: While I did not originate this messge or have any previous part in it's distribution, I can only wonder, Terry, if your attitude about it might be a little different if it's contents pertained to one of those little boys clinging to your shoulders in your picture on QRZ. The fact that it's two years old only adds to the desperation those parents must be feeling over this. Don't forget, you are a living being first (even if it is only a human) and a ham second (or third or fourth or tenth). You would do well to try to show some compassion in that, seemingly, miserable life of yours. Whoa. Disagree with a person that's fine. However personal attacks such as using terms like miserable life of yours are unacceptable. That said the original poster should've check snopes.com or other similar sites or just done a quick search on the girl's name. When you read the story the girl was in the company of a man who was the boyfriend of the girls aunt and legal guardian and who apparently committed suicide. Thus the chances of the girl being alive are vanishingly small. And the posting was off topic for this mailing list. Tony
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense
The one I use looks exactly like the one shown, but mine has a small disk at the end of the adjustable BNC probe. 73 - Jim W5ZIT The picture in the PDF is for a different model that uses a grounded loop (HX or HY series), not the capacitively-coupled (electrostatic) HZ series like the ones Ridge sells and the ones you and I have. On the capacitive ones, you can't short to the thru-line no matter how far you run the coupled section in because the center conductor on the coupled leg is recessed in from the end of the teflon. --- Jeff WN3A
[Repeater-Builder] Re: kxn-1024 conversion
Perhaps someone has a kxn-1029 that I can purchase? Please contact me off the list. Thanks Craig --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, fxbuilder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the kxn-1029 is hard to find. Can a 1024 be modified to be a 1029? I've got several Micors I'd like to turn into GMRS repeaters. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Craig
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kxn-1024 conversion
Both elements are interchangeable, only the stability is different, 2.5 parts vs. 5 PPM - Original Message - From: fxbuilder To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kxn-1024 conversion Perhaps someone has a kxn-1029 that I can purchase? Please contact me off the list. Thanks Craig --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, fxbuilder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the kxn-1029 is hard to find. Can a 1024 be modified to be a 1029? I've got several Micors I'd like to turn into GMRS repeaters. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Craig No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1549 - Release Date: 7/12/2008 4:31 PM
[Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna mounting hardware
Ron, I've often used All-Thread for U bolts and V bolts, you know, the continuously threaded rod often found at the local hardware store. The all-thread is easily wrapped around a piece of pipe or angle by putting one end into a vise and inserting the other end part way into a short section of 3/4 pipe or conduit and bent into shape around a mandrel. One might need to apply some heat to the rod if the bending angle is really sharp, but I've never had to with the ones I've delt with. The all-thread comes in many sizes and lengths and is easily cut to size with a hacksaw. (Do this only after it is bent to shape and some nuts screwed on before cutting!) The V shaped grooves of the all-thread bite into the tower leg and don't slip. Last year I disassembled an AM broadcast skirt antenna that I installed in 1975 using hardware held together with the all-thead U bolts I made back then. This was on a tower with four inch diameter legs. The tower was rusting from the inside of the legs and needed to be replaced but the 1/2 all-thread was still in perfect shape more than thirty years later. It goes without saying that these bolts need to be kept painted as they are bare steel. I used Rustoleum for this. After the first coat they got repainted every time we had the tower painted. Good luck, Al, K9SI Does anyone know of a source or V-clamps or the like for 5.25 legs??? This has to be hardware that will last 20 years and not hose clamps which I have. 73, ron, n9ee/r
