Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band

2009-10-27 Thread Gareth Bennett
Hi Marcus,
These come in all shapes and sizes, D band cavities are particularly hard to 
obtain at the best of times. Quite often cavities are not needed, especially if 
the Duplexer is a bandpass item.  these are usually added on a per site 
basis. 
It's good housekeeping to have a bandpass filter system, generally as the Tait 
duplexers are notch devices only.

Cheers

Gareth Bennett

(- Original Message - 
  From: Marcus 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band


i have added your email addy to my address book in case i need any more 
duplexors

  what i need is a price first for a cavity filter or two

  not a duplexor, nor a diplexor, nor a arieal, nor anything else 

  am just after a price and availibility of Cavity filters

  Marcus



  Gareth Bennett wrote: 

  

Hi Marcus,

How many do you require, and what model Tait?

I have either T300 or T800 Series rackmount duplexers available

Cheers


Gareth Bennett

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  From: Marcus 
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  Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:30 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Tait UHF Standby Repeater D-Band



  is there anyone on this list that resides in NZ and if so/not does 
  anyone have any Cavity filters, if so how much
  i have a Tait Repeater running D-BAND it was a backup system

  would like to get it running, forgive the contradiction, the system is 
  fully operational, i would like to put it to some use

  must be loads of points i have not mentioned, so if need be fire away, i 
  shall answer all my old almost had it brain can conjur up

  Marcus




  

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mitrek/MSR200 preamp needed

2009-10-27 Thread Wayne
Hello Joe and every one else. 
In case we can't find the factory version has anyone else tried hooking a 
preamp to the pins where the factory version plugs in? That would put some 
filter ahead of the preamp.

Wayne, WA5LUY

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, tahrens301 tahr...@... wrote:

 Hi Joe,
 
 I'm looking for one as well, if your junk box is that deep!
 (VHF MSR2000)
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tim  W5FN
 
 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, burkleoj joeburkleo@ wrote:
 
  Wayne,
  I have had much better luck with Angle Linear preamps than the 
  Mitrek/MSR2000 units.
  
  Chip does offer a Amateur Discount also.
  
  If you absolutely have to have a factory preamp, I will look through my 
  MSR2000/Mitrek VHF units and see if I have one.
  
  Joe - WA7JAW
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Wayne wa5luy@ wrote:
  
   I am in need of a HLD4051A or HLD4052A receiver preamp out of a Mitrek or 
   MSR2000. This is the plug in preamp that goes in the helical resonator. 
   This is for vhf 146.xx. If anyone has one or two let me know how much you 
   want.
   
   Thanks
   Wayne
  
 





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna spacing

2009-10-27 Thread kc8fwd
Jeremy,
I have a MFJ 2 Meter Data radio on 145.010 at 5 watts on my packet BBS.
It has a Diamond F-22 20 foot to the antenna mount using rg 213 cause the run 
to the shack is short.I use a Diamond X510HDN with a Yaesu
FT-8800R running 50 watts and the antenna is 30 Foot to antenna mount.
I use the Yaesu on all repeater freqs in this area and have no problems.
I have the masts about 10 foot apart.Hope this might help 73 de Mike KC8FWD



[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR-2000 Receiver Preamp

2009-10-27 Thread skipp025



Hi Wayne, 

The original MSR-2000 Receiver Preamp relative to an ARR 
(or Angle) GaAS gas-fet has less gain and a noticeably 
higher noise figure. 

I have used both the original and an external preamplifier 
on pretty much all versions of the MSR-2000 Receivers. 

Depending on your Duplexer, the operation of your system 
would normally be more improved with an external added 
GaAs Preamplifier versus using the original unit. 

Better third order performance is one benefit. 

I know everyone is in love with Angle Linear Preamps and 
they're very good products... but I also use a heck of a 
lot of ARR GaAs Preamps because they're a great dollar 
value and they work very well. 

Regarding the active device inside the box (the transistor 
or FET): 

Phempt device amplifiers are wonderful, GaAs (gas-fet) are 
great, bipolar types have their place in many applications 
but what's in front and behind the box (filter-wise) also 
matters a great deal. 

Want to build your own? 

http://www.radiowrench.com/sonic/so02145.html 

s. 

 Wayne wa5...@... wrote:
 Hello Joe and every one else. 
 In case we can't find the factory version has anyone 
 else tried hooking a preamp to the pins where the factory 
 version plugs in? That would put some filter ahead of the 
 preamp.  
 Wayne, WA5LUY

[pasted original post]
I am in need of a HLD4051A or HLD4052A receiver preamp out of a Mitrek or 
MSR-2000. This is the plug in preamp that goes in the helical resonator. This 
is for vhf 146.xx. If anyone has one or two let me know how much you want.






[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna spacing

2009-10-27 Thread n3dab
It would be interesting to hear how you would connect TWO 2Mtr. radios 
(assuming a standard .600khz split and a single antenna connector on each) thru 
a duplexer(s) to a single feed line and antenna.  What type duplexer(s) are you 
suggesting ?  Have you done this before ?  Just curious. 

Doug  N3DAB 

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Robinson kf6...@... wrote:

 under the description you give you can put them on top of each other
 separated by a 1/2 wave or better without any real problems. if you are only
 going  to transmit on one at a time then you wont have any reall issues.
  You will be able to run up to about 25 W without any problems that I can
 think of.
  I run a couple radios here at home and have the antennas relative close and
 only have problems when i kick up over 25W and then it is just some noise
 but nothing strong enough to kill the receive on the other rig.
 
  You can still use a duplexer and run two rigs to same antenna without any
 problems as well. then you would only have the one coax to worry about
 really. tends to make things cleaner looking on the install too!
 
 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Jeremy (KB1REQ) kb1...@... wrote:
 
 
 
 
  The icom runs a max of about 65 watts but almost always less, more like 5
  or 10. The antenna I hope to set up is a mobile 5/8 waxe over a
  ground-plane. My purpose is for skywarn activations, as an NCO it would help
  to be active one two frequencies nearly simultainously.
  Any further help is appriceated.
 
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com,
  Eric Lemmon wb6fly@ wrote:
  
   Jeremy,
  
   You did not provide enough information to give you a good answer. How far
   apart are the frequencies involved? How powerful is the other radio?
  
   What I can tell you right away is that vertical separation is far, far,
  more
   effective than horizontal separation. If both radios are going to be
   frequency-agile, that is, there may not always be a fixed separation in
   frequency, then the simple answer is: Separate the two antennas
  vertically
   as much as you can, one over the other, and hope for the best. Use
   double-shielded cable for feedlines on both antennas.
  
   Damage to the receivers is not likely, since most good radios have diode
   protection on the front ends. After all, look at almost any mobile
  command
   post vehicle, and you'll probably see a dozen antennas on the roof-
  usually
   no more than a foot or so apart. Although major desense is almost
   guaranteed when any one of the radios transmits, judicious use of
   preselectors (such as those made by DCI) can minimize it.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Jeremy (KB1REQ)
   Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 6:24 PM
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna spacing
  
  
  
   This post does not necessarily relate to repeaters, but some of the same
   calculations can be applied. I am interested in installing another two
  meter
   radio in my shack and was wondering what kind of spacing is needed as to
  not
   over load either of the radio's receivers. I currently have an icom set
  up
   on a j-pole, and I have a 45 watt GM300 that I want to add. What would be
   the best placement of antennas to reduce desense. or otherwise damage the
   receivers?
  
 
   
 





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna spacing

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Curtis
Probably referring to using a duplexer (certainly NOT a diplexer) to connect
2 simplex frequency'd 2m transceivers to a single antenna.
?

Commonly done

Chris
Kb0wlf


 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
 buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
 Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:09 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna spacing
 
 It would be interesting to hear how you would connect TWO 2Mtr. radios
 (assuming a standard .600khz split and a single antenna connector on
 each) thru a duplexer(s) to a single feed line and antenna.  What type
 duplexer(s) are you suggesting ?  Have you done this before ?  Just
 curious.
 
 Doug  N3DAB
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Robinson kf6...@...
 wrote:
 
  under the description you give you can put them on top of each other
  separated by a 1/2 wave or better without any real problems. if you
 are only
  going  to transmit on one at a time then you wont have any reall
 issues.
   You will be able to run up to about 25 W without any problems that I
 can
  think of.
   I run a couple radios here at home and have the antennas relative
 close and
  only have problems when i kick up over 25W and then it is just some
 noise
  but nothing strong enough to kill the receive on the other rig.
 
   You can still use a duplexer and run two rigs to same antenna
 without any
  problems as well. then you would only have the one coax to worry
 about
  really. tends to make things cleaner looking on the install too!
 
  On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Jeremy (KB1REQ) kb1...@... wrote:
 
  
  
  
   The icom runs a max of about 65 watts but almost always less, more
 like 5
   or 10. The antenna I hope to set up is a mobile 5/8 waxe over a
   ground-plane. My purpose is for skywarn activations, as an NCO it
 would help
   to be active one two frequencies nearly simultainously.
   Any further help is appriceated.
  
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-
 Builder%40yahoogroups.com,
   Eric Lemmon wb6fly@ wrote:
   
Jeremy,
   
You did not provide enough information to give you a good answer.
 How far
apart are the frequencies involved? How powerful is the other
 radio?
   
What I can tell you right away is that vertical separation is
 far, far,
   more
effective than horizontal separation. If both radios are going to
 be
frequency-agile, that is, there may not always be a fixed
 separation in
frequency, then the simple answer is: Separate the two antennas
   vertically
as much as you can, one over the other, and hope for the best.
 Use
double-shielded cable for feedlines on both antennas.
   
Damage to the receivers is not likely, since most good radios
 have diode
protection on the front ends. After all, look at almost any
 mobile
   command
post vehicle, and you'll probably see a dozen antennas on the
 roof-
   usually
no more than a foot or so apart. Although major desense is almost
guaranteed when any one of the radios transmits, judicious use of
preselectors (such as those made by DCI) can minimize it.
   
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-
 Builder%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-
 Builder%40yahoogroups.com]
   On Behalf Of Jeremy (KB1REQ)
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 6:24 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-
 Builder%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna spacing
   
   
   
This post does not necessarily relate to repeaters, but some of
 the same
calculations can be applied. I am interested in installing
 another two
   meter
radio in my shack and was wondering what kind of spacing is
 needed as to
   not
over load either of the radio's receivers. I currently have an
 icom set
   up
on a j-pole, and I have a 45 watt GM300 that I want to add. What
 would be
the best placement of antennas to reduce desense. or otherwise
 damage the
receivers?
   
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna spacing

2009-10-27 Thread skipp025


You could combine two close spaced transmitters using a 
hybrid and the right combination will work through one 
duplexer.  Just throwing out one method... 

s.  

 n3dab rb_n3...@... wrote:

 It would be interesting to hear how you would connect TWO 2Mtr. radios 
 (assuming a standard .600khz split and a single antenna connector on each) 
 thru a duplexer(s) to a single feed line and antenna.  What type duplexer(s) 
 are you suggesting ?  Have you done this before ?  Just curious. 
 
 Doug  N3DAB 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Robinson kf6nfw@ wrote:
 
  under the description you give you can put them on top of each other
  separated by a 1/2 wave or better without any real problems. if you are only
  going  to transmit on one at a time then you wont have any reall issues.
   You will be able to run up to about 25 W without any problems that I can
  think of.
   I run a couple radios here at home and have the antennas relative close and
  only have problems when i kick up over 25W and then it is just some noise
  but nothing strong enough to kill the receive on the other rig.
  
   You can still use a duplexer and run two rigs to same antenna without any
  problems as well. then you would only have the one coax to worry about
  really. tends to make things cleaner looking on the install too!
  
  On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Jeremy (KB1REQ) kb1req@ wrote:
  
  
  
  
   The icom runs a max of about 65 watts but almost always less, more like 5
   or 10. The antenna I hope to set up is a mobile 5/8 waxe over a
   ground-plane. My purpose is for skywarn activations, as an NCO it would 
   help
   to be active one two frequencies nearly simultainously.
   Any further help is appriceated.
  
  
   --- In 
   Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com,
   Eric Lemmon wb6fly@ wrote:
   
Jeremy,
   
You did not provide enough information to give you a good answer. How 
far
apart are the frequencies involved? How powerful is the other radio?
   
What I can tell you right away is that vertical separation is far, far,
   more
effective than horizontal separation. If both radios are going to be
frequency-agile, that is, there may not always be a fixed separation in
frequency, then the simple answer is: Separate the two antennas
   vertically
as much as you can, one over the other, and hope for the best. Use
double-shielded cable for feedlines on both antennas.
   
Damage to the receivers is not likely, since most good radios have diode
protection on the front ends. After all, look at almost any mobile
   command
post vehicle, and you'll probably see a dozen antennas on the roof-
   usually
no more than a foot or so apart. Although major desense is almost
guaranteed when any one of the radios transmits, judicious use of
preselectors (such as those made by DCI) can minimize it.
   
-Original Message-
From: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com]
   On Behalf Of Jeremy (KB1REQ)
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 6:24 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna spacing
   
   
   
This post does not necessarily relate to repeaters, but some of the same
calculations can be applied. I am interested in installing another two
   meter
radio in my shack and was wondering what kind of spacing is needed as to
   not
over load either of the radio's receivers. I currently have an icom set
   up
on a j-pole, and I have a 45 watt GM300 that I want to add. What would 
be
the best placement of antennas to reduce desense. or otherwise damage 
the
receivers?
   
  

  
 





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna spacing

2009-10-27 Thread n3dab
I agree that simplex freq's. on each radio would work, in which a simple notch 
type duplexer or filter cavity would probably surfice.  But i got the 
impression that the original poster was referring to duplex mode on the radios 
which complicates things a bit with the hardware.  I don't see any problem with 
using 2 feedline and 2 antennas stacked or side by side with a little 
separation between the m as long as he isn't talking on both radios 
simultaneously. 

Doug   N3DAB  

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Curtis demo...@... wrote:

 Probably referring to using a duplexer (certainly NOT a diplexer) to connect
 2 simplex frequency'd 2m transceivers to a single antenna.
 ?
 
 Commonly done
 
 Chris
 Kb0wlf
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
  buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:09 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna spacing
  
  It would be interesting to hear how you would connect TWO 2Mtr. radios
  (assuming a standard .600khz split and a single antenna connector on
  each) thru a duplexer(s) to a single feed line and antenna.  What type
  duplexer(s) are you suggesting ?  Have you done this before ?  Just
  curious.
  
  Doug  N3DAB
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Robinson kf6nfw@
  wrote:
  
   under the description you give you can put them on top of each other
   separated by a 1/2 wave or better without any real problems. if you
  are only
   going  to transmit on one at a time then you wont have any reall
  issues.
You will be able to run up to about 25 W without any problems that I
  can
   think of.
I run a couple radios here at home and have the antennas relative
  close and
   only have problems when i kick up over 25W and then it is just some
  noise
   but nothing strong enough to kill the receive on the other rig.
  
You can still use a duplexer and run two rigs to same antenna
  without any
   problems as well. then you would only have the one coax to worry
  about
   really. tends to make things cleaner looking on the install too!
  
   On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Jeremy (KB1REQ) kb1req@ wrote:
  
   
   
   
The icom runs a max of about 65 watts but almost always less, more
  like 5
or 10. The antenna I hope to set up is a mobile 5/8 waxe over a
ground-plane. My purpose is for skywarn activations, as an NCO it
  would help
to be active one two frequencies nearly simultainously.
Any further help is appriceated.
   
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-
  Builder%40yahoogroups.com,
Eric Lemmon wb6fly@ wrote:

 Jeremy,

 You did not provide enough information to give you a good answer.
  How far
 apart are the frequencies involved? How powerful is the other
  radio?

 What I can tell you right away is that vertical separation is
  far, far,
more
 effective than horizontal separation. If both radios are going to
  be
 frequency-agile, that is, there may not always be a fixed
  separation in
 frequency, then the simple answer is: Separate the two antennas
vertically
 as much as you can, one over the other, and hope for the best.
  Use
 double-shielded cable for feedlines on both antennas.

 Damage to the receivers is not likely, since most good radios
  have diode
 protection on the front ends. After all, look at almost any
  mobile
command
 post vehicle, and you'll probably see a dozen antennas on the
  roof-
usually
 no more than a foot or so apart. Although major desense is almost
 guaranteed when any one of the radios transmits, judicious use of
 preselectors (such as those made by DCI) can minimize it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-
  Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-
  Builder%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jeremy (KB1REQ)
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 6:24 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-
  Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna spacing



 This post does not necessarily relate to repeaters, but some of
  the same
 calculations can be applied. I am interested in installing
  another two
meter
 radio in my shack and was wondering what kind of spacing is
  needed as to
not
 over load either of the radio's receivers. I currently have an
  icom set
up
 on a j-pole, and I have a 45 watt GM300 that I want to add. What
  would be
 the best placement of antennas to reduce desense. or otherwise
  damage the
 receivers?

   
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna spacing

2009-10-27 Thread n3dab
Can't argue with you there ,but then he (you) would have to go into the radios 
to split out the Tx and Rx from the single connector on the chassis. I didn't 
think he was in to rebuilding the radios or spending alot of money.  

Doug   N3DAB

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 skipp...@... wrote:

 
 
 You could combine two close spaced transmitters using a 
 hybrid and the right combination will work through one 
 duplexer.  Just throwing out one method... 
 
 s.  
 
  n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
 
  It would be interesting to hear how you would connect TWO 2Mtr. radios 
  (assuming a standard .600khz split and a single antenna connector on each) 
  thru a duplexer(s) to a single feed line and antenna.  What type 
  duplexer(s) are you suggesting ?  Have you done this before ?  Just 
  curious. 
  
  Doug  N3DAB 
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Robinson kf6nfw@ wrote:
  
   under the description you give you can put them on top of each other
   separated by a 1/2 wave or better without any real problems. if you are 
   only
   going  to transmit on one at a time then you wont have any reall issues.
You will be able to run up to about 25 W without any problems that I can
   think of.
I run a couple radios here at home and have the antennas relative close 
   and
   only have problems when i kick up over 25W and then it is just some noise
   but nothing strong enough to kill the receive on the other rig.
   
You can still use a duplexer and run two rigs to same antenna without any
   problems as well. then you would only have the one coax to worry about
   really. tends to make things cleaner looking on the install too!
   
   On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Jeremy (KB1REQ) kb1req@ wrote:
   
   
   
   
The icom runs a max of about 65 watts but almost always less, more like 
5
or 10. The antenna I hope to set up is a mobile 5/8 waxe over a
ground-plane. My purpose is for skywarn activations, as an NCO it would 
help
to be active one two frequencies nearly simultainously.
Any further help is appriceated.
   
   
--- In 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com,
Eric Lemmon wb6fly@ wrote:

 Jeremy,

 You did not provide enough information to give you a good answer. How 
 far
 apart are the frequencies involved? How powerful is the other radio?

 What I can tell you right away is that vertical separation is far, 
 far,
more
 effective than horizontal separation. If both radios are going to be
 frequency-agile, that is, there may not always be a fixed separation 
 in
 frequency, then the simple answer is: Separate the two antennas
vertically
 as much as you can, one over the other, and hope for the best. Use
 double-shielded cable for feedlines on both antennas.

 Damage to the receivers is not likely, since most good radios have 
 diode
 protection on the front ends. After all, look at almost any mobile
command
 post vehicle, and you'll probably see a dozen antennas on the roof-
usually
 no more than a foot or so apart. Although major desense is almost
 guaranteed when any one of the radios transmits, judicious use of
 preselectors (such as those made by DCI) can minimize it.

 -Original Message-
 From: 
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jeremy (KB1REQ)
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 6:24 PM
 To: 
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna spacing



 This post does not necessarily relate to repeaters, but some of the 
 same
 calculations can be applied. I am interested in installing another two
meter
 radio in my shack and was wondering what kind of spacing is needed as 
 to
not
 over load either of the radio's receivers. I currently have an icom 
 set
up
 on a j-pole, and I have a 45 watt GM300 that I want to add. What 
 would be
 the best placement of antennas to reduce desense. or otherwise damage 
 the
 receivers?

   
 
   
  
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a RCA series 700 or series 1000 mobile radio, VHF-Hi (150-174 split)

2009-10-27 Thread Matt Harker
Hi Andy,

I've obtained several of these old RCA's since we last wrote one another.  If 
you find an old, smoke gray, VHF Hi band (150-174 MHz) radio; I'd like to have 
it (4 channels preferred, but I'm not picky either).  Other than that, I've got 
enough low-band radios to hold down the back of an old Buick.

Thanks for your help!

73's de 
 KC5DBH Matt 





From: Andrew Seybold aseyb...@andrewseybold.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 11, 2009 5:57:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a RCA series 700 or series 1000 
mobile radio, VHF-Hi (150-174 split)




Matt—have the manuals, not the radios! Boy that brings back memories, I sold 
several thousand of them when I worked for RCA in the 1070’s and had a 700 on 2 
Meters for my ham rig—or was it a 500? In any event, thanks for the memories, I 
have seen some at Dayton, and am going this year, if you don’t find one let me 
know and I will look for you.
 
Andy
 
From:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] 
On Behalf Of kc5dbh
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:32 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a RCA series 700 or series 1000 mobile 
radio, VHF-Hi (150-174 split)
 
  
Hi Everyone!

I'm looking for an RCA Series 700 or Series 1000 mobile radio, 4 channel, VHF 
Hi-Band, with control head, mic and, cabling and, brackets (or as close as 
anyone can get to that).

I want to restore one of these radios to working condition for the display 
shelf in the radio room.

I have a couple extra Series 1000 low-band mobiles by themselves (no control 
heads, etc) if anyone is interested.

Thanks,

Matt 





  

[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kenwood TKR-720

2009-10-27 Thread Gustavo (Pu3gbw)
Greetings to all the group!
Hello everybody I am a resident of the Brazilian city of São Lourenço do Sul, 
State of Rio Grande do Sul, which I am very sorry for layman
the English language.
I come to ask some of the friends who have possession of the old manual
Repeater Kenwood TKR-720 model.

Already grateful
Gustavo - Pu3gbw



[Repeater-Builder] Voice and digipeater on same antenna

2009-10-27 Thread wb5hqh
How do you combine a 2 meter voice and 2 meter digipeater on the same antenna??



[Repeater-Builder] Re: what pac-rt means

2009-10-27 Thread kb5zxm
PAC RT used to mean JOB SECURITY for radio repair techs ! 

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Robinson kf6...@... wrote:

 I always found  their selection of radios to be a bit odd until about 10
 years ago. For a while they would use the GE system in the car and a
 motorola for other systems, but the two would never really synch properly
 and there was always the drop out every few seconds that was only about a
 half second long but none the less annoying! i think they have changed
 systems now and odnt have this issue anymore.
 
  Oh how I use to miss the days of California, now you couldnt pay me enough
 to move back!
 
 On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Andrew Seybold aseyb...@...
  wrote:
 
 
 
   Pac-rt or Pack Rats are they are called, is a low-powered repeater which
  is tied to the main mobile radio in a police or fire vehicle, when the
  officier leaves the vehicle he normally takes the HT, and the HT then talks
  through the PAC-RT back to the base station. This was first done where the
  mobile units were low band (30-50 MHz) and there were no good HTs available,
  CHP uses them on 154.905 for their 42 MHz dispatch system
 
 
 
  Andy
 
 
 
  *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
  repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *George
  *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2009 9:57 AM
  *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] what pac-rt means
 
 
 
 
 
  i have MTVA converta-com 800mhz with the mts2000 inside the cradle and the
  control unit NTN1325B has amplifier in it and switching RF TX-RX relay. i
  hear it clicking between PTT. now the cradle has a switch that says PAC-RT
  on and off. what does this do? (no manual)
 

 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kenwood TKR-720

2009-10-27 Thread Richard Fletcher
Hello Gustavo, (in English)
 Try this one and tell if you can use this or not. I hope it is what you are 
looking for.
Cheers
http://www.eserviceinfo.com/index.php?what=search2searchstring=TKR-720

In Portuguese
Olá Gustavo, 

  Tente este e dizer se você pode usar este ou não. Espero que seja o que você 
está procurando. 

abraço

-Richard





From: Gustavo (Pu3gbw) pu3...@hotmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 1:54:17 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kenwood TKR-720

  
Greetings to all the group! 
Hello everybody I am a resident of the Brazilian city of São Lourenço do Sul, 
State of Rio Grande do Sul, which I am very sorry for layman 
the English language. 
I come to ask some of the friends who have possession of the old manual 
Repeater Kenwood TKR-720 model. 

Already grateful 
Gustavo - Pu3gbw





  

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Voice and digipeater on same antenna

2009-10-27 Thread larynl2


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wb5hqh garyhanc...@... wrote:

 How do you combine a 2 meter voice and 2 meter digipeater on the same 
 antenna??


Here, we have a repeater on 147.06 and digi on 144.39.  We're using an old 
Sinclair Q2B05D duplexer to combine the two.  

The voice repeater has it's own duplexer.  The antenna port of that duplexer 
feeds the high frequency port of the Sinclair duplexer.  The Sinclair pass 
response is wide enough to pass both .66 and .06 with no problem.  The digi 
radio feeds the low frequency port of the Sinclair.  

In addition, we needed to add a pass cavity to the digi radio, and a pass 
cavity to the repeater receiver.  It all works great, with no desense to either 
receiver from either transmitter.

Several months ago (May or June?) on this list, someone posted *their* method 
and diagram for doing the same thing.  Perhaps that person could re-post the 
info.  Or, search the list archives.

Laryn K8TVZ



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voice and digipeater on same antenna [1 Attachment]

2009-10-27 Thread Frank or Barbara Rossi

Attached is an article from WD8OYG that is very good.
N3FLR - Frank

On 10/28/2009 12:01 AM, larynl2 wrote:

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wb5hqh garyhanc...@... wrote:
  

How do you combine a 2 meter voice and 2 meter digipeater on the same antenna??




Here, we have a repeater on 147.06 and digi on 144.39.  We're using an old Sinclair Q2B05D duplexer to combine the two.  

The voice repeater has it's own duplexer.  The antenna port of that duplexer feeds the high frequency port of the Sinclair duplexer.  The Sinclair pass response is wide enough to pass both .66 and .06 with no problem.  The digi radio feeds the low frequency port of the Sinclair.  


In addition, we needed to add a pass cavity to the digi radio, and a pass 
cavity to the repeater receiver.  It all works great, with no desense to either 
receiver from either transmitter.

Several months ago (May or June?) on this list, someone posted *their* method 
and diagram for doing the same thing.  Perhaps that person could re-post the 
info.  Or, search the list archives.

Laryn K8TVZ