[Repeater-Builder] MSF alarms fixed finally

[Jimmy Powell]

Ok, I entered the IPCB command, then without resetting the machine I
loaded the conf.def file and rebuilt my codeplug. This worked now I can
reset the machine and have no alarms.

Richard, thank you very much for the help.

Jimmy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Msf5000 Low Power alarms

[Jimmy Powell]

That did work. That's cool. Is there anyway to save it to the radio?
When I reset the radio the problem comes right back. 

Thanks again. 

Jimmy



On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 17:01 -0400, MCH wrote:
>   
> How do you set it back to normal?
> 
> Joe M.
> 
> Richard Arnold wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > There is an RSS software solution ("bitbang") to get rid of the
> alarms.
> > Connect the RIB to the operating MSF.
> > From the main menu hit ALT-F5. A command line bar will appear
> telling 
> > you to enter an IPCB command. Enter the following: (WITHOUT the " "
> quotes)
> > 
> > "/1e1607160800FF"
> > 
> > it is CASE sensitive. This sets the FWD/REV settings to zero and FF 
> > (infinity)
> > I've done it many times, and it works just fine!
> > 
> > 
> > --- On *Sun, 8/29/10, jimmylpowell //* wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: jimmylpowell 
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Msf5000 Low Power alarms
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:36 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I originally posted this on the MSF5000 board but got no response. I
> > thought I would broaden my search.
> > 
> > Does anyone know a way to get a non trunking MSF with out an
> internal
> > power
> > sensor to stop giving the 7 beeps? I have tried going back to a
> default
> > codeplug
> > and starting from scratch. This did not work. It seems that once the
> bit
> > is
> > set it won't go away. I'm sure that it happened when someone went
> into
> > the
> > screen to adjust the alarms. I know this is a common problem and
> they
> > tell you
> > not to do it.
> > 
> > I have the alarms disabled over the air, but it annoys me on the
> local
> > audio. I
> > would like to enable the over the air alarms, but I can't until I
> can
> > clear this
> > one.
> > 
> > My MSF has version 4.07 SSCB and 5.04 TTRC.
> > 
> > Maybe there's some bit banging that can be done.
> > 
> > Jimmy, K5JCT
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > 
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> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: **Possible Spam** [Repeater-Builder] Re: Msf5000 Low Power alarms

[Jimmy Powell]

I think that it is looking for an input on the RCA jacks on the SSCB.
Mine does not have anything connected to these. I could be wrong.

Jimmy


On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 16:47 +, Bill wrote:
>   
> 
> Ok, I'll ask the easy question, why not let it be happy with the
> proper input to the sscb input for the pa...I think it may be only
> one wire.
> .
> bill
> w4oo
> .
> .
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "jimmylpowell" 
> wrote:
> >
> > I originally posted this on the MSF5000 board but got no response. I
> > thought I would broaden my search.
> > 
> > Does anyone know a way to get a non trunking MSF with out an
> internal
> > power
> > sensor to stop giving the 7 beeps? I have tried going back to a
> default
> > codeplug
> > and starting from scratch. This did not work. It seems that once the
> bit
> > is
> > set it won't go away. I'm sure that it happened when someone went
> into
> > the
> > screen to adjust the alarms. I know this is a common problem and
> they
> > tell you
> > not to do it.
> > 
> > I have the alarms disabled over the air, but it annoys me on the
> local
> > audio. I
> > would like to enable the over the air alarms, but I can't until I
> can
> > clear this
> > one.
> > 
> > My MSF has version 4.07 SSCB and 5.04 TTRC.
> > 
> > Maybe there's some bit banging that can be done.
> > 
> > Jimmy, K5JCT
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplex coax types

[Jimmy Powell]

I have used the 1/4" stuff with the PL-259s before. I haven't tried the N's.
I'll have to check my collection for some that are large enough.
 
Jimmy, KS4KX

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Maratrac

[Jimmy Powell]

In addition to the software, the UHF has two power control pots inside the
radio. I'm not sure about the VHF. I have one but, it's been mounted and
operational for years. I will go look this afternoon if you need me to.

 

Jimmy, KS4KX

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head

[Jimmy Powell]

I finally got it working. I went back to a known good codeplug. Then, I
changed it to a clamshell control head. It would then transmit, but on wrong
channel. I deleted all but Mode 1. It works!  

 

It also transmits PL. It seems from reading back through old posts that some
have had trouble getting PL with no control head. Oh, well. Mine works. I
have added a mod to stop PL from being transmitted at times. When, you
listen to another receiver it goes boing softly. Nothings perfect. 

 

Scott, thanks for the help. I guess sometimes it helps to have someone tell
you that you are doing all the right things. I just wasn't doing them all at
the same time.

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head

 

I am making the assumption that you have programmed the radio to use a 
clam-shell style control head and NOT an A7 display head.
You were so close. All you needed to do is connect pins 19 & 4 to +12v. From

the batlabs website:
> If you need to program a Maratrac, and do not have a control head 
> available, all is not lost. What you do need is a control cable from a 
> Maratrac, Mitrek, Mocom 70, or Motrac.

> What you want to do is wire pin 17 and 13 to NEGATIVE, and pin 19 and 4 to

> 12VDC. This can be used to power the radio up. Then you just use the 
> programming port in the radio to do the programming.

> This power cable can also be used to power up the radio to use as a 
> transmitter without a control head. Again, you just use the programming 
> port to access the PTT and mic audio pins.

Doing the above method does not allow for channel selection, but if you are 
simply using this as a repeater transmitter, It will get you by.

Good luck,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

- Original Message - 
From: "jimmylpowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
com>
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:04 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head

>I am trying to use a UHF Maratrac as a transmitter. I want to leave
> off the control head.
> I can not get it to transmit without the control head. I have jumpered
> pins 17 & 13 and 19 & 4. I have checked the fuse on the logic board. I
> have tried the Ptt pin on the 16 pin.
>
> Are the any other jumpers that may need to be added? Any other ideas?
>
> Jimmy, KS4KX
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 10:08 AM
>
> 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head

[Jimmy Powell]

Ok, I did connect the positive and negative. I just didn't mention them. I
programmed it as a clamshell also, forgot to mention that in original post.
I have two radios that have the same problem, my only two of course. These
do have the A7 head.

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head

 

I am making the assumption that you have programmed the radio to use a 
clam-shell style control head and NOT an A7 display head.
You were so close. All you needed to do is connect pins 19 & 4 to +12v. From

the batlabs website:
> If you need to program a Maratrac, and do not have a control head 
> available, all is not lost. What you do need is a control cable from a 
> Maratrac, Mitrek, Mocom 70, or Motrac.

> What you want to do is wire pin 17 and 13 to NEGATIVE, and pin 19 and 4 to

> 12VDC. This can be used to power the radio up. Then you just use the 
> programming port in the radio to do the programming.

> This power cable can also be used to power up the radio to use as a 
> transmitter without a control head. Again, you just use the programming 
> port to access the PTT and mic audio pins.

Doing the above method does not allow for channel selection, but if you are 
simply using this as a repeater transmitter, It will get you by.

Good luck,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

- Original Message - 
From: "jimmylpowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
com>
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:04 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac without control head

>I am trying to use a UHF Maratrac as a transmitter. I want to leave
> off the control head.
> I can not get it to transmit without the control head. I have jumpered
> pins 17 & 13 and 19 & 4. I have checked the fuse on the logic board. I
> have tried the Ptt pin on the 16 pin.
>
> Are the any other jumpers that may need to be added? Any other ideas?
>
> Jimmy, KS4KX
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1046 - Release Date: 10/3/2007

> 10:08 AM
>
> 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Celwave Stationmaster part identification help needed - RFS is useless

[Jimmy Powell]

Is this what you are looking for?

 

http://www.mouser.com

/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=1327505virtualkey6780virtualkey678-1327505

 

Or this part number on this page?

 

RFN1034-1

 

http://www.rfparts.com/typen.html

 

 

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Midgett
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 9:50 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Celwave Stationmaster part
identification help needed - RFS is useless

 

Hi Eric,
It appears that a faulty installation of the jumper at the sidearm is 
the beginning of the problems, and eliminating all the adaptors you 
can is the other component.
Regarding repairing the antenna: is it feasible to make your own 
jumper pig tail (perhaps from super flex) and permanently solder one 
end to the antenna feed point? That would eliminate connectors that 
are inaccessible at the antenna. Make the jumper long enough to reach 
the tower, and ensure it is well attached to the stand off bracket.
If the radials are what I recall, they're easy if you have the 
dimensions. IIRC, they're simple flat stock stainless or aluminum 
pieces with rounded edges, kind of resembling metal tongue depressors 
with a sharp angle bend in one end. I could fab them for you if you'd like.

At 06:06 PM 9/7/2007, you wrote:
>I called RFS this afternoon. Sad times, indeed. First of all no one
>there could identify the connector/adapter part. Second of all, they
>claim "no spare parts available" for Stationmaster antennas. I even
>tried to buy a set of radials for a PD455 that has lost them, and
>they don't even offer them separately!
>
>Anyone have a bad UHF Super StationMaster that they want to sell off
>the radials or coaxial connector/adapter from?
>
>To top matters, the antennas aren't even built in the states anymore,
>and are contracted out to a non-RFS company. One more nail in our
>industrial coffin!
>
>One another note - has anyone run a PD455 with and without the
>radials, and noted the difference in performance?
>
>Eric
>KE2D
>
>
>--- In Repeater-Builder@ 
yahoogroups.com, "kk2ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Good Evening,
> >
> > I have a PD455 Super Stationmaster that is about 12 years old. I
> > recently replaced it due to and SWR issue. I suspected a jumper
> > issue. But since it is so high up on a tower, I didn't want to take
> > any chances while having the climbers rig the tower, and pay twice,
> > so I went ahead and replaced the antenna as well as the jumper.
> >
> > Well, come to find out, the problem was that the LDF4-50 jumper
>came
> > loose from the side arm, and the stress pulled the center pin in on
> > the N connector, thus causing an arc condition inside the N female
> > connector at the bottom of the antenna. To make matters worse, the
> > actual N Female termination was half unscrewed from the bottom of
>the
> > antenna.
> >
> > Once on the ground, I decided to unscrew it out completely. To my
> > suprise, it looks like the antenna is actually terminated into
> > something resembling a UHF male connector embedded into the end of
> > the inner assembly, and a UHF female to N female adapter is screwed
> > in at the factory, providing the N female termination as ordered
>I'm
> > guessing that if some other termination (DIN or UHF) is ordered, a
> > different adapter is screwed in.
> >
> > Anyone familiar with this adapter, or know where I can obtain said
> > replacement adapter? I have some standard UHF female - N female
> > barrel adapters, but they are much shorter and not of the quality
> > like the Celwave unit. I don't want to trust a cheap adapter at
>500ft
> > in the air!
> >
> > I'll call RFS when I get a chance, but based on recent
>correspondence
> > with them, I don't hold much hope getting any support from them.
>Sad
> > part is their old factory in Marboro NJ was a mile from my office -
> > in the early 90's telecom boom days I used to drive my truck there
> > and pick 30 Statiomasters up at a clip, no cardboard tubes needed!
> > Now their old office and testing grounds is a strip mall, and the
> > factory land has been surrounded by million dollar homes!
> >
> >
> > Eric
> > KE2D
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Thanks,
Robin Midgett K4IDC
VHF+ Glutton EM66se 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Maratrac: Low power in ham bands

[Jimmy Powell]

Bob M.

 

Thanks for the tip. I did the alignment. It was a little quirky but I
finally got the radio performing to my satisfaction. It does 100 watts plus,
from 440-450. I turned it down to 80 of course. Now I have to decide if I
want to "waste" a good Maratrac as a repeater transmitter. Maybe, I should
just order the crystal for one of the Mitreks I have laying around.

 

Thanks

Jimmy

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob M.
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:26 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Maratrac: Low power in ham bands

 

I think the Maratrac is based on the MaxTrac radio. As
such, you'd probably have to go through the Board
Replacement -> PA Alignment procedure which sets the
output power at 16 discrete frequencies.

On Radius radios (cousins of MaxTracs), the freqs go
from 440-470, but on MaxTracs they usually go from
449-470. Some radios can be aligned to cover 440-470.
Not all radios will work below 445 MHz without some
other retuning, so even if the PA output is properly
aligned, there may be other issues.

You need the appropriate radio service software and
paraphernalia that goes with it, plus a dummy load and
a power indicating device (wattmeter or service
monitor).

Bob M.
==
--- jimmylpowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com>
wrote:

> I have a Maratrac that will only make about 20 watts
> at 446.500 and
> almost nothing a little below that. At 448.00 and
> above it makes full
> power. I have another Maratrac that makes full power
> down to 440.000.
> I did not check it any further. The radios look a
> little different
> inside. The one that has low power is HUE 2189B the
> good one is
> HUE2089B. What changes were made to the design that
> may be causing my
> problem? I want to put one of the radios in my
> service van and the
> other was going to be used as my repeater
> transmitter backup. I need
> it to transmit in the 443.000 range.
> 
> Jimmy
> KS4KX

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[Repeater-Builder] UHF Maratrac: Low power in ham bands

[Jimmy Powell]

I have a Maratrac that will only make about 20 watts at 446.500 and almost
nothing a little below that. At 448.00 and above it makes full power. I have
another Maratrac that makes full power down to 440.000. I did not check it
any further. The radios look a little different inside. The one that has low
power is HUE 2189B the good one is HUE2089B. What changes were made to the
design that may be causing my problem?  I want to put one of the radios in
my service van and the other was going to be used as my repeater transmitter
backup. I need it to transmit in the 443.000 range.

 

Jimmy