Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-17 Thread Jim Brown
I have recently moved a GE Mastr Exec II radio from the 47 mHz area up into six 
meters.  (The MVP and the Exec use the same exciter).  I'll admit that the 
exciter is hard to tune, but it will work without any modification.  My 
technique is to set the frequency of a receiver to each multiplier frequency 
and place a probe near the stage while tuning.  With a peak in signal strength, 
the stage can then be tuned with a meter on the test point.  

I built a probe that I use with a one inch piece of insulated wire extending 
from the end that I can insert into the exciter near the stage I am trying to 
tune.  This same probe works to insert a signal generator output into the 
individual stages of the front end of the receiver.  Tune the mixer first and 
then work toward the input one stage at a time.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Radio Guy ve3...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Radio Guy ve3...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 2:11 PM











Yes, that is something that has been mentioned many times, this 
could

be a waste of time and money, but so far I have lots of people that

want to help. It could be a fun project, it is old enough to look like

a tube radio, or in this case, a tube radio without tubes!



Speaking of trying to get a radio converted to 6m, a GE guy is having

problems with a GE MVP, has anyone been successful getting a radio to

cover 52.450 and 53.450?  Seems it will not tune to 53.450 Tx.



And yes I do own a Ranger 6m radio, but do not like the audio on FM.



On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Milt men...@pa.net wrote:

 Actually, one other item to consider; make sure that the radio is in the

 highest bandsplit for a conversion to 6meters. Otherwise it will be a

 painful attempt to convert. It's been too long to remember if there were

 just 3 bandsplits or more.



 Milt

 N3LTQ



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-17 Thread Radio Guy
Thanks for the info, that is encouragement.



On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Jim Brown w5...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I have recently moved a GE Mastr Exec II radio from the 47 mHz area up into
 six meters.  (The MVP and the Exec use the same exciter).  I'll admit that
 the exciter is hard to tune, but it will work without any modification.  My
 technique is to set the frequency of a receiver to each multiplier frequency
 and place a probe near the stage while tuning.  With a peak in signal
 strength, the stage can then be tuned with a meter on the test point.

 I built a probe that I use with a one inch piece of insulated wire extending
 from the end that I can insert into the exciter near the stage I am trying
 to tune.  This same probe works to insert a signal generator output into the
 individual stages of the front end of the receiver.  Tune the mixer first
 and then work toward the input one stage at a time.

 73 - Jim  W5ZIT

 --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Radio Guy ve3...@gmail.com wrote:


 Speaking of trying to get a radio converted to 6m, a GE guy is having
 problems with a GE MVP, has anyone been successful getting a radio to
 cover 52.450 and 53.450? Seems it will not tune to 53.450 Tx.


  - - - 
 Ken

 

---
Ken


[Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-16 Thread Radio Guy
Any one familiar with the GE Porta Mobile two?
It is a low band radio, and I would like to have it converted to the 6m band.
I send it to a local shop that was familiar with GE products back in
the day, they say it is in very good shape. Any ideas on a company
that could make the crystals?
Is this a worth while project? Showing hams this radio always brings a
smile to their faces,a portable radio that is bigger then most HF
mobiles!

The tech said...  if we need to change out caps, it would be a job
for younger eyes!




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---
Ken


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-16 Thread Milt
PortaMobile series 2 was based on the GE PE series portables.  ICM or Bomar 
should be able to do the rocks.  Batteries or a power supply will most 
likely be the problem although the supply of parts for the portable on which 
the radio is based is limited.

Good luck it's a nice piece of history.

Milt
N3LTQ


- Original Message - 
From: Radio Guy ve3...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:40 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio


 Any one familiar with the GE Porta Mobile two?
 It is a low band radio, and I would like to have it converted to the 6m 
 band.
 I send it to a local shop that was familiar with GE products back in
 the day, they say it is in very good shape. Any ideas on a company
 that could make the crystals?
 Is this a worth while project? Showing hams this radio always brings a
 smile to their faces,a portable radio that is bigger then most HF
 mobiles!

 The tech said...  if we need to change out caps, it would be a job
 for younger eyes!




 -- 

 ---
 Ken

 



 Yahoo! Groups Links






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-16 Thread dmurman


 If I remember correctly the Portable Mobile II used ICOMS for the 
channel elements.  Just like in the PE series radios.


David

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Milt wrote:

PortaMobile series 2 was based on the GE PE series portables.  ICM or 
Bomar

should be able to do the rocks.  Batteries or a power supply will most
likely be the problem although the supply of parts for the portable on 
which

the radio is based is limited.

Good luck it's a nice piece of history.

Milt
N3LTQ

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From: Radio Guy  ve3...@gmail. com mailto:ve3...@gmail.com 
To:  Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:40 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

Any one familiar with the GE Porta Mobile two? It is a low band radio, 
and I would like to have it converted to the 6m band. I send it to a 
local shop that was familiar with GE products back in the day, they 
say it is in very good shape. Any ideas on a company that could make 
the crystals? Is this a worth while project? Showing hams this radio 
always brings a smile to their faces,a portable radio that is bigger 
then most HF mobiles!
The tech said...  if we need to change out caps, it would be a job 
for younger eyes!




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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-16 Thread Radio Guy
The Ge shop told me that he has some test connectors, for alignment
purposes, and I would have to use a different type of battery. Since
the battery case was modified, I may be able to fit a sealed lead acid
in the overblown case. Interestingly, the Motorola tech just dropped
by looking for connectors, and I mentioned the crystals to him, he
makes regular orders of crystals and is interested in obtaining the
rocks for me.
So far all is going well.
Any yes, it is a historic piece of equipment, people whom recognise
the low band radios have stories to tell about firefighters preferring
the long range of heavy radios.


 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Milt wrote:
 PortaMobile series 2 was based on the GE PE series portables.  ICM or Bomar
 should be able to do the rocks.  Batteries or a power supply will most
 likely be the problem although the supply of parts for the portable on which
 the radio is based is limited.
 Good luck it's a nice piece of history.
 Milt
 N3LTQ

-- 

---
Ken


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-16 Thread Milt
Actually, one other item to consider; make sure that the radio is in the 
highest bandsplit for a conversion to 6meters.  Otherwise it will be a 
painful attempt to convert.  It's been too long to remember if there were 
just 3 bandsplits or more.

Milt
N3LTQ


- Original Message - 
From: Radio Guy ve3...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio


 The Ge shop told me that he has some test connectors, for alignment
 purposes, and I would have to use a different type of battery. Since
 the battery case was modified, I may be able to fit a sealed lead acid
 in the overblown case. Interestingly, the Motorola tech just dropped
 by looking for connectors, and I mentioned the crystals to him, he
 makes regular orders of crystals and is interested in obtaining the
 rocks for me.
 So far all is going well.
 Any yes, it is a historic piece of equipment, people whom recognise
 the low band radios have stories to tell about firefighters preferring
 the long range of heavy radios.


 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Milt wrote:
 PortaMobile series 2 was based on the GE PE series portables.  ICM or 
 Bomar
 should be able to do the rocks.  Batteries or a power supply will most
 likely be the problem although the supply of parts for the portable on 
 which
 the radio is based is limited.
 Good luck it's a nice piece of history.
 Milt
 N3LTQ

 -- 

 ---
 Ken

 



 Yahoo! Groups Links






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-16 Thread Radio Guy
Yes, that is something that has been mentioned many times, this could
be a waste of time and money, but so far I have lots of people that
want to help. It could be a fun project, it is old enough to look like
a tube radio, or in this case, a tube radio without tubes!

Speaking of trying to get a radio converted to 6m, a GE guy is having
problems with a GE MVP, has anyone been successful getting a radio to
cover 52.450 and 53.450?  Seems it will not tune to 53.450 Tx.

And yes I do own a Ranger 6m radio, but do not like the audio on FM.





On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Milt men...@pa.net wrote:
 Actually, one other item to consider; make sure that the radio is in the
 highest bandsplit for a conversion to 6meters. Otherwise it will be a
 painful attempt to convert. It's been too long to remember if there were
 just 3 bandsplits or more.

 Milt
 N3LTQ

-- 

---
Ken


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-16 Thread Chuck Kelsey
For every stage that will not tune (go completely through a peak and down 
the other side) you will need to change out the cap associated with the coil 
that won't tune. Look at the manual. It shows value changes required for 
each split.

Chuck
WB2EDV


- Original Message - 
From: Radio Guy ve3...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio


 Yes, that is something that has been mentioned many times, this could
 be a waste of time and money, but so far I have lots of people that
 want to help. It could be a fun project, it is old enough to look like
 a tube radio, or in this case, a tube radio without tubes!

 Speaking of trying to get a radio converted to 6m, a GE guy is having
 problems with a GE MVP, has anyone been successful getting a radio to
 cover 52.450 and 53.450?  Seems it will not tune to 53.450 Tx.

 And yes I do own a Ranger 6m radio, but do not like the audio on FM.
 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-16 Thread Radio Guy
That is the big problem, people had the manual, somewhere, even the
shops had all the manuals.. Think we threw that out years ago, with
all that tube stuff... When we were looking, found a Phoenix manual,
but no MVP.

I will look around the Internet tonight after work.




On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 For every stage that will not tune (go completely through a peak and down
 the other side) you will need to change out the cap associated with the coil
 that won't tune. Look at the manual. It shows value changes required for
 each split.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV


-- 

---
Ken


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-16 Thread George Henry
The VHF hi one that I have takes HC-6/U rocks  I think I still have the 12 
volt mobile supply for it somewhere (takes a standard female XLR audio 
connector for the power input)

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413





From: dmur...@verizon.net dmur...@verizon.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:26:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio


 If I remember correctly the Portable Mobile II used ICOMS for the channel 
elements.  Just like in the PE series radios.


David


On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Milt wrote:

PortaMobile series 2 was based on the GE PE series portables.  ICM or Bomar 
should be able to do the rocks.  Batteries or a power supply will most 
likely be the problem although the supply of parts for the portable on which 
the radio is based is limited. 

Good luck it's a nice piece of history. 

Milt 
N3LTQ 

- Original Message - 
From: Radio Guy  ve3...@gmail. com 
To:  Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:40 AM 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio 

 Any one familiar with the GE Porta Mobile two? 
 It is a low band radio, and I would like to have it converted to the 6m 
 band. 
 I send it to a local shop that was familiar with GE products back in 
 the day, they say it is in very good shape. Any ideas on a company 
 that could make the crystals? 
 Is this a worth while project? Showing hams this radio always brings a 
 smile to their faces,a portable radio that is bigger then most HF 
 mobiles! 
 
 The tech said...  if we need to change out caps, it would be a job 
 for younger eyes! 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 
  - - -  
 Ken 
 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-16 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I think the Repeater Builder website has what you need.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: Radio Guy ve3...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio


 That is the big problem, people had the manual, somewhere, even the
 shops had all the manuals.. Think we threw that out years ago, with
 all that tube stuff... When we were looking, found a Phoenix manual,
 but no MVP.

 I will look around the Internet tonight after work.




 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com 
 wrote:
 For every stage that will not tune (go completely through a peak and down
 the other side) you will need to change out the cap associated with the 
 coil
 that won't tune. Look at the manual. It shows value changes required for
 each split.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV


 -- 

 ---
 Ken

 



 Yahoo! Groups Links






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-16 Thread no6b
At 1/16/2009 07:40, you wrote:
Any one familiar with the GE Porta Mobile two?
It is a low band radio, and I would like to have it converted to the 6m band.
I send it to a local shop that was familiar with GE products back in
the day, they say it is in very good shape. Any ideas on a company
that could make the crystals?
Is this a worth while project?

If it's the lunch box version of the G.E. PE HT, I'd say no.

Bob NO6B