[Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
> I am wanting to swap out the BNC receiver connector to > an N connector on my Kenwood TKR-750 2 meter repeater. Why..? It's a horrible idea and a real potential for trouble. Would there be some major advantage (we seem to be overlooking) over the factory installed rx BNC connector? s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
At 09:15 AM 1/21/2009, Alexander N Tubonjic wrote: >Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've >had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from >reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that >steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
BNC's leak if using el-cheapo connectors... Most receiver multicouplers use BNC connectors... The new MOTOTRBO repeaters use a BNC on the receiver port and an N connector on the transmitter side... For the duplexers with N connectors, we simply put a male BNC on the radio side and a male N on the duplexer side of the cable. 73s, AJ, K6LOR On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Chuck Kelsey wrote: > You want to steer away from junk connectors, and there are a lot of them > out > there. BNC's get used with excellent results on all kinds of commercial > applications. Use quality, name-brand connectors. Hamfest specials are > usually cheap overseas junk. > > Chuck > WB2EDV > > - Original Message - > From: "Alexander N Tubonjic" > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:15 PM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater) > > > Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've > > had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from > > reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that > > steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea. > > > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
At 09:27 AM 1/21/2009, Eric Vincent wrote: > Better matching, less loss, handle power, robust and perfect for RG-214. <---Better matching? Both N and BNC are constant impedance. Power? Not a concern for receivers. RG-214? BNCs work quite nicely with it. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
Hi Chuck and the group -- Thanks for this input -- It has been well known for years that the cheapy connectors that most hams purchase won't cut it on repeaters. There are only a couple of manufacturers that I will purchase or that we will purchase in the shop. AMPHENOL silver plated/teflon being one type. As the BNC connectors, well there is many schools of thought about this but good connectors work fine. Heck TX/RX uses them all the time without issue on their duplexers. I also question why we keep hammering on UHF when, we use good connectors, they are still getting a bad rap? UHF has strength and as long as they are treated well they serve well. Where "N" connectors shine is in wet environments, and where constant impedance is a must. As to coax, RG-8 (214, 213) is not a requirement, use teflon RG-142B or RG-223! Both are very good candidates for repeater and duplexer use. Constant impedance, low loss, good/excellent shield - less leakage (or crosstalk), and easy to work with. Certainly, a plus. Thanks group -- for letting me comment -- Rick NU7Z On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Chuck Kelsey wrote: > You want to steer away from junk connectors, and there are a lot of them > out > there. BNC's get used with excellent results on all kinds of commercial > applications. Use quality, name-brand connectors. Hamfest specials are > usually cheap overseas junk. > > Chuck > WB2EDV > > - Original Message - > From: "Alexander N Tubonjic" > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:15 PM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater) > > > Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've > > had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from > > reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that > > steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea. > > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
I like Amphenol, Kings and RF Industries. Same problem with coax. If you go with something not Mil-Spec (with an actual Mil-Spec number), good luck. Again, there's lots of junk out there. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater) I agree. In my military days, we used a lot of BNC connectors into the 400 MHz range with no problems. Stick with Amphenol or a another good mil-spec brand and you'll be fine. You get what you pay for. 73, Mike WM4B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
I agree. In my military days, we used a lot of BNC connectors into the 400 MHz range with no problems. Stick with Amphenol or a another good mil-spec brand and you'll be fine. You get what you pay for. 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater) You want to steer away from junk connectors, and there are a lot of them out there. BNC's get used with excellent results on all kinds of commercial applications. Use quality, name-brand connectors. Hamfest specials are usually cheap overseas junk. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Alexander N Tubonjic" mailto:kg4ogn%40yahoo.com> > To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:15 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater) > Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've > had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from > reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that > steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea. > <><>
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
You want to steer away from junk connectors, and there are a lot of them out there. BNC's get used with excellent results on all kinds of commercial applications. Use quality, name-brand connectors. Hamfest specials are usually cheap overseas junk. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Alexander N Tubonjic" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:15 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater) > Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've > had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from > reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that > steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea. >
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea. > > > >> Ken > -- > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > we offer complete repeater packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" >