[Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)

2009-01-21 Thread skipp025

> I am wanting to swap out the BNC receiver connector to 
> an N connector on my Kenwood TKR-750 2 meter repeater. 

Why..?  It's a horrible idea and a real potential for trouble. 
Would there be some major advantage (we seem to be overlooking) 
over the factory installed rx BNC connector? 

s. 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)

2009-01-21 Thread Ken Arck
At 09:15 AM 1/21/2009, Alexander N Tubonjic wrote:

>Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've
>had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from
>reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that
>steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)

2009-01-21 Thread AJ
BNC's leak if using el-cheapo connectors...

Most receiver multicouplers use BNC connectors...

The new MOTOTRBO repeaters use a BNC on the receiver port and an N connector
on the transmitter side...

For the duplexers with N connectors, we simply put a male BNC on the radio
side and a male N on the duplexer side of the cable.


73s,
AJ, K6LOR

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Chuck Kelsey wrote:

>   You want to steer away from junk connectors, and there are a lot of them
> out
> there. BNC's get used with excellent results on all kinds of commercial
> applications. Use quality, name-brand connectors. Hamfest specials are
> usually cheap overseas junk.
>
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alexander N Tubonjic" >
> To: 
> >
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:15 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
>
> > Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've
> > had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from
> > reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that
> > steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea.
> >
>
> 
>


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)

2009-01-21 Thread Ken Arck
At 09:27 AM 1/21/2009, Eric Vincent wrote:


>  Better matching, less loss, handle power,  robust and perfect for RG-214.

<---Better matching? Both N and BNC are constant 
impedance. Power? Not a concern for receivers. 
RG-214? BNCs work quite nicely with it.

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)

2009-01-21 Thread Rick Beatty
Hi Chuck and the group -- Thanks for this input -- It has been well known
for years that the cheapy
connectors that most hams purchase won't cut it on repeaters. There are only
a couple of manufacturers that I will purchase
or that we will purchase in the shop. AMPHENOL silver plated/teflon being
one type.

As the BNC connectors, well there is many schools of thought about this but
good connectors work fine. Heck TX/RX uses them all the time
without issue on their duplexers. I also question why we keep hammering on
UHF when, we use good connectors, they are still getting a bad rap?
UHF has strength and as long as they are treated well they serve well. Where
"N" connectors shine is in wet environments, and where constant impedance is
a must.

As to coax, RG-8 (214, 213) is not a requirement, use teflon RG-142B or
RG-223! Both are very good candidates for repeater and duplexer use.
Constant impedance, low loss, good/excellent shield - less leakage (or
crosstalk), and easy to work with. Certainly, a plus.

Thanks group -- for letting me comment --

Rick NU7Z

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Chuck Kelsey  wrote:

>   You want to steer away from junk connectors, and there are a lot of them
> out
> there. BNC's get used with excellent results on all kinds of commercial
> applications. Use quality, name-brand connectors. Hamfest specials are
> usually cheap overseas junk.
>
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alexander N Tubonjic" >
> To: 
> >
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:15 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
>
> > Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've
> > had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from
> > reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that
> > steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea.
> >
>  
>


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)

2009-01-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I like Amphenol, Kings and RF Industries.

Same problem with coax. If you go with something not Mil-Spec (with an actual 
Mil-Spec number), good luck. Again, there's lots of junk out there. 

Chuck
WB2EDV

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:44 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)


  I agree.  In my military days, we used a lot of BNC connectors into the 400 
MHz range with no problems.  

   

  Stick with Amphenol or a another good mil-spec brand and you'll be fine.  You 
get what you pay for.

   

  73,

   

  Mike

  WM4B

   


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)

2009-01-21 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
I agree.  In my military days, we used a lot of BNC connectors into the 400
MHz range with no problems.  

 

Stick with Amphenol or a another good mil-spec brand and you'll be fine.
You get what you pay for.

 

73,

 

Mike

WM4B

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:21 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)

 

You want to steer away from junk connectors, and there are a lot of them out

there. BNC's get used with excellent results on all kinds of commercial 
applications. Use quality, name-brand connectors. Hamfest specials are 
usually cheap overseas junk.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: "Alexander N Tubonjic" mailto:kg4ogn%40yahoo.com> >
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)

> Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've
> had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from
> reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that
> steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea.
> 

 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)

2009-01-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
You want to steer away from junk connectors, and there are a lot of them out 
there. BNC's get used with excellent results on all kinds of commercial 
applications. Use quality, name-brand connectors. Hamfest specials are 
usually cheap overseas junk.

Chuck
WB2EDV


- Original Message - 
From: "Alexander N Tubonjic" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)


>  Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've
> had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from
> reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that
> steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea.
> 


[Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)

2009-01-21 Thread Alexander N Tubonjic
  Mainly because the BNC connectors seem flimsy in my opinion (I've
had two break on two separate HT's over the past few years) and from
reading up whats posted on the net everyone seems to agree that
steering clear of PL-259 and BNC connectors in repeaters is a good idea.

> 
> 
> 
>  
> Ken
>
--
> President and CTO - Arcom Communications
> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
> http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
> we offer complete repeater packages!
> AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
> http://www.irlp.net
> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
>