RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP interfaces

2008-09-29 Thread KD4PBC
Look at the chips used in common ATA I like the PAP2T from Linksys (now
Cisco) .

 

It's just like any other interface use the off hook and ring or reverse
battery like your E&M 

 

On the "Trigger Base" you could configure the ATA for "hot dial"  where it
would connect upon off hook.  

 

Hope this helps

 

Robert.

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gareth Bennett (Ihug)
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 5:15 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP interfaces

 

Hi Walter, 

Actually we are evaluating ROIP products for a major dealer network
where my job is purely RF engineering for OEM compatibility.

Granted, I am casting a rather wide net here on a fact finding mission to
see if the group is aware of any other brands that I had not covered. As for
pricing, we will be dealing at OEM level, so its a volume issue as well as
features and performance.

 

In NZ we refer to a trigger base as a semi duplex radio (On Mobile
Frequencies) that is mounted at a fixed location. Often these are line
controlled via E&M, or in our instances ROIP.

 

Hope this helps?

 

Regards

 

Gareth Bennett

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: ka1jfy <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:41 AM

Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP interfaces

 

What do you consider a "reasonable price"?
And what features are you specifically looking for them to have?

BTW, what is a 'trigger base'? A control station?
[I love when IT guys try to do radio]

Walter KD7BJJ

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gareth Bennett \(Ihug\)" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Group, 
> 
> I am looking for options for ROIP interfaces that can be interfaced 
to base stations. I am aware of the major brands such as Omnitronics, 
Telex/Vega, CSI and Raytheon/JPS. 
> Are there any other vendors out there that do a decent stand 
alone ROIP interface unit at a reasonable price?
> 
> We are OEM suppliers and are looking for possibly two tiers of 
unit, one that can provide regenerated CTCSS (High end tier) and a 
more basic unit for possible trigger base applications that we can 
integrate into our own systems.
> 
> Does anybody have any suggestions or recommendations?
> 
> Wishing you all the very best
> 
> Gareth Bennett
>

 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP interfaces

2008-09-26 Thread ka1jfy
Here in the states, the legal term for those is 'control stations'.
It's not 'semi-duplex', it's 'half-duplex'. 
2 frequencies, receiver mutes during TX.

But you STILL haven't answered the main part of the question:
What features at what price point?

BTW, you might also want to ask this on the 'LMR' 
and 'PrivateWirelessForum' lists where commercial radio shop types 
hang out. Make sure you give the answers to my questions when you do, 
or they'll ask the same things.

You should also look at 

Walter

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gareth Bennett \(Ihug\)" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Walter, 
> Actually we are evaluating ROIP products for a major dealer 
network where my job is purely RF engineering for OEM compatibility.
> Granted, I am casting a rather wide net here on a fact finding 
mission to see if the group is aware of any other brands that I had 
not covered. As for pricing, we will be dealing at OEM level, so its 
a volume issue as well as features and performance.
> 
> In NZ we refer to a trigger base as a semi duplex radio (On Mobile 
Frequencies) that is mounted at a fixed location. Often these are 
line controlled via E&M, or in our instances ROIP.
> 
> Hope this helps?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gareth Bennett
>SNIP>



[Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP interfaces

2008-09-26 Thread lenaw12
ahhh...probably what we lazily call "full-duplex" but in reality it
allows 100% monitoring of the receive frequency even while
transmitting locally intermittently, usually requiring headphones ;-)

It amazes me what I can learn even after being licensed 43 years...

Thanks...

LW

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> in my vast experience [ ;-) } semi or half duplex is more commonly
understood asa a control station. as in a repeater control station
where in you are xmitting on the repeater input and listenning to the
repeater output. use 2 freq but not simulateously at the same time and
together. trigger base soubnds kinda like a cb term concocoted to
describe the action in simple terms but usually more confusing. and
meaning no disrespect to cb-ers or them what are of that persuasion.
but you know who you are.
> i will now disappear back into the wood work.
>  
>  
>




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP interfaces

2008-09-26 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
in my vast experience [ ;-) } semi or half duplex is more commonly understood 
asa a control station. as in a repeater control station where in you are 
xmitting on the repeater input and listenning to the repeater output. use 2 
freq but not simulateously at the same time and together. trigger base soubnds 
kinda like a cb term concocoted to describe the action in simple terms but 
usually more confusing. and meaning no disrespect to cb-ers or them what are of 
that persuasion. but you know who you are.
i will now disappear back into the wood work.
 
 


  

[Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP interfaces

2008-09-26 Thread lenaw12
I guess it's my turn to ask...what's a "...semi duplex radio..."?

LW

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gareth Bennett \(Ihug\)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Walter, 

> In NZ we refer to a trigger base as a semi duplex radio (On Mobile
Frequencies) that is mounted at a fixed location. Often these are line
controlled via E&M, or in our instances ROIP.

> 
> Regards
> 
> Gareth Bennett




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP interfaces

2008-09-26 Thread Gareth Bennett (Ihug)
Hi Walter, 
Actually we are evaluating ROIP products for a major dealer network where 
my job is purely RF engineering for OEM compatibility.
Granted, I am casting a rather wide net here on a fact finding mission to see 
if the group is aware of any other brands that I had not covered. As for 
pricing, we will be dealing at OEM level, so its a volume issue as well as 
features and performance.

In NZ we refer to a trigger base as a semi duplex radio (On Mobile Frequencies) 
that is mounted at a fixed location. Often these are line controlled via E&M, 
or in our instances ROIP.

Hope this helps?

Regards

Gareth Bennett


  - Original Message - 
  From: ka1jfy 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:41 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP interfaces


  What do you consider a "reasonable price"?
  And what features are you specifically looking for them to have?

  BTW, what is a 'trigger base'? A control station?
  [I love when IT guys try to do radio]

  Walter KD7BJJ

  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gareth Bennett \(Ihug\)" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > Hello Group, 
  > 
  > I am looking for options for ROIP interfaces that can be interfaced 
  to base stations. I am aware of the major brands such as Omnitronics, 
  Telex/Vega, CSI and Raytheon/JPS. 
  > Are there any other vendors out there that do a decent stand 
  alone ROIP interface unit at a reasonable price?
  > 
  > We are OEM suppliers and are looking for possibly two tiers of 
  unit, one that can provide regenerated CTCSS (High end tier) and a 
  more basic unit for possible trigger base applications that we can 
  integrate into our own systems.
  > 
  > Does anybody have any suggestions or recommendations?
  > 
  > Wishing you all the very best
  > 
  > Gareth Bennett
  >



   

[Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP interfaces

2008-09-25 Thread ka1jfy
What do you consider a "reasonable price"?
And what features are you specifically looking for them to have?

BTW, what is a 'trigger base'? A control station?
[I love when IT guys try to do radio]

Walter KD7BJJ


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gareth Bennett \(Ihug\)" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Group, 
> 
> I am looking for options for ROIP interfaces that can be interfaced 
to base stations. I am aware of the major brands such as Omnitronics, 
Telex/Vega, CSI and Raytheon/JPS. 
> Are there any other vendors out there that do a decent stand 
alone ROIP interface unit at a reasonable price?
> 
> We are OEM suppliers and are looking for possibly two tiers of 
unit, one that can provide regenerated CTCSS (High end tier) and a 
more basic unit for possible trigger base applications that we can 
integrate into our own systems.
> 
> Does anybody have any suggestions or recommendations?
> 
> Wishing you all the very best
> 
> Gareth Bennett
>