Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items

2010-03-15 Thread wd8chl
On 3/14/2010 11:41 PM, Paul Plack wrote:
 How do these transmitters play at crowded sites? I've heard some accounts of 
 broadband noise problems for other tenants when high-power Glenayre equipment 
 went in...

 73,
 Paul, AE4KR

Having worked on them for over 10 years now, I can say they are very 
clean-when installed properly-just like most any other brand. Frankly, 
in the paging industry, the Nucleus has a much worse rep then the 
Glenayres, especially the 8500/8600 series-probably just about the best 
paging transmitter made.
I can say that the problems you have heard can be attributed to a few 
causes:
-Poor installation, including improperly installed hardline connectors, 
or not properly weatherproofed, which once water gets in, it can cause IM.
-IM generated from sources outside the transmitter
-On occasion, the DSP exciters could go 'squirrely' and go into a 
failure mode that makes a lot of noise. It shouldn't go on long, because 
it will also affect paging in the area, as the digital waveform gets 
distorted too.
-Digital modulation is always going to be somewhat dirtier then analog, 
and requires proper 'clean-up' so to speak. The Glenayre 900 MHz 
transmitters all came with a circulator, or at least a BP cavity on the 
lower power stations. Not all Nucs have one.

- Original Message -
From: Joe
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items


I maintained a 900MHz Glenarye digital
simulcast system here in Connecticut years ago and played with the
analog mode, it worked nice...





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items

2010-03-14 Thread Ken Arck
At 09:40 PM 3/13/2010, skipp025 wrote:

Now who in their right mind would have that kind of stuff Ken?

---You kidding? One of the most reliable, best performing repeaters 
I run is a Quintron UHF one I bought new, in the crate, in the 
mid-80's. And it's still going strong!

Ken
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items

2010-03-14 Thread skipp025



 Ken Arck ah...@... wrote:
 ---You kidding? One of the most reliable, best 
 performing repeaters I run is a Quintron UHF one I 
 bought new, in the crate, in the mid-80's. And it's 
 still going strong!
 Ken

Nope, I wasn't kidding... of course you silly goose I was 
kidding and referring to the fact that I probably have more 
vintage odd stuff that most people on this Group so you 
should have Emailed me first. 

I was a factory trained Quintron Field Technical Rep in the 
80's, which for you means I have probably every Quintron and 
most Glenayre Manuals, which also means you can probably get a 
copy of what you need from me...  and you did Email me direct 
so I'll be looking through my collection. 

I clearly know how well designed and constructed Quintron 
Glenayre Equipment is... 

and... 

I have a few Quintron 900 MHz paging transmitter items in my 
collection I would happily give to a sincere and proper home. 

Pick up from The Greater Sacramento Area (kind of a oxymoron) 
or enough of a desire to pay shipping on some of the heavier 
items and they could be yours for free or the price of a Dayton 
Brat/Braut. You'd be helping me along my 12 Step Junk Enders 
Program. 

cheers, 
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 

[I guess I'm going to have to include diagrams with my posts]

:-) 

  At 09:40 PM 3/13/2010, skipp025 wrote:
  Now who in their right mind would have that kind of 
  stuff Ken?





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items

2010-03-14 Thread Mark
Skipp,

You wouldn't happen to have an old 900 MHz analog paging exciter laying
around, would you?  I still have a complete Glenayre paging station that is
digital - would like to find an analog exciter to see if I could cobble up a
900 repeater out of it.

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of skipp025

 Ken Arck ah...@... wrote:
 ---You kidding? One of the most reliable, best 
 performing repeaters I run is a Quintron UHF one I 
 bought new, in the crate, in the mid-80's. And it's 
 still going strong!
 Ken

Nope, I wasn't kidding... of course you silly goose I was 
kidding and referring to the fact that I probably have more 
vintage odd stuff that most people on this Group so you 
should have Emailed me first. 

I was a factory trained Quintron Field Technical Rep in the 
80's, which for you means I have probably every Quintron and 
most Glenayre Manuals, which also means you can probably get a 
copy of what you need from me...  and you did Email me direct 
so I'll be looking through my collection. 

I clearly know how well designed and constructed Quintron 
Glenayre Equipment is... 

and... 

I have a few Quintron 900 MHz paging transmitter items in my 
collection I would happily give to a sincere and proper home. 

Pick up from The Greater Sacramento Area (kind of a oxymoron) 
or enough of a desire to pay shipping on some of the heavier 
items and they could be yours for free or the price of a Dayton 
Brat/Braut. You'd be helping me along my 12 Step Junk Enders 
Program. 

cheers, 
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 

[I guess I'm going to have to include diagrams with my posts]

:-) 

  At 09:40 PM 3/13/2010, skipp025 wrote:
  Now who in their right mind would have that kind of 
  stuff Ken?



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items

2010-03-14 Thread Joe
I just turned down a few of these about 6 months ago.  Too bad. 

The problem with the Glenayre exciter is trying to figure out how to 
program it to the ham bands.  There is a company in Illinois that still 
fixes Quintron/Glenayre stuff, I think they could program one for you.  
There is one on eBay right now.  I maintained a 900MHz Glenarye digital 
simulcast system here in Connecticut years ago and played with the 
analog mode, it worked nice.  My boss used to listen to the paging 
channel on a scanner.  I used to freak him out with all kinds of sounds 
and audio on the 900MHz channel.  It was fun.

73, Joe, K1ike


Mark wrote:
 Skipp,

 You wouldn't happen to have an old 900 MHz analog paging exciter laying
 around, would you?  I still have a complete Glenayre paging station that is
 digital - would like to find an analog exciter to see if I could cobble up a
 900 repeater out of it.

 Mark - N9WYS
   




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items

2010-03-14 Thread skipp025

 Mark n9...@... wrote:
 Skipp,
 You wouldn't happen to have an old 900 MHz analog paging 
 exciter laying around, would you?  I still have a complete 
 Glenayre paging station that is digital - would like to 
 find an analog exciter to see if I could cobble up a
 900 repeater out of it.
 Mark - N9WYS

I'll look and if I do you can have it... Email me direct 
in a few days to check the status (give me a reminder). 

s. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of skipp025
 
  Ken Arck ah6le@ wrote:
  ---You kidding? One of the most reliable, best 
  performing repeaters I run is a Quintron UHF one I 
  bought new, in the crate, in the mid-80's. And it's 
  still going strong!
  Ken
 
 Nope, I wasn't kidding... of course you silly goose I was 
 kidding and referring to the fact that I probably have more 
 vintage odd stuff that most people on this Group so you 
 should have Emailed me first. 
 
 I was a factory trained Quintron Field Technical Rep in the 
 80's, which for you means I have probably every Quintron and 
 most Glenayre Manuals, which also means you can probably get a 
 copy of what you need from me...  and you did Email me direct 
 so I'll be looking through my collection. 
 
 I clearly know how well designed and constructed Quintron 
 Glenayre Equipment is... 
 
 and... 
 
 I have a few Quintron 900 MHz paging transmitter items in my 
 collection I would happily give to a sincere and proper home. 
 
 Pick up from The Greater Sacramento Area (kind of a oxymoron) 
 or enough of a desire to pay shipping on some of the heavier 
 items and they could be yours for free or the price of a Dayton 
 Brat/Braut. You'd be helping me along my 12 Step Junk Enders 
 Program. 
 
 cheers, 
 skipp 
 
 skipp025 at yahoo.com 
 
 [I guess I'm going to have to include diagrams with my posts]
 
 :-) 
 
   At 09:40 PM 3/13/2010, skipp025 wrote:
   Now who in their right mind would have that kind of 
   stuff Ken?





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items

2010-03-14 Thread Jeff DePolo
 
 The problem with the Glenayre exciter is trying to figure out how to 
 program it to the ham bands. There is a company in Illinois 
 that still 
 fixes Quintron/Glenayre stuff, I think they could program one 
 for you. 
 There is one on eBay right now. I maintained a 900MHz 
 Glenarye digital 
 simulcast system here in Connecticut years ago and played with the 
 analog mode, it worked nice. My boss used to listen to the paging 
 channel on a scanner. I used to freak him out with all kinds 
 of sounds 
 and audio on the 900MHz channel. It was fun.
 
 73, Joe, K1ike

Which exciter?  The universal exciter?  I figured out the programming for
those if you need it.  I even made an easy-to-use Excel spreadsheet for
calculating the values for the PROM.  I think it's on the AR902mhz Yahoo
group site, if not let me know and I can email it to you (assuming I can
find it).

By the way, most of the time only the first channel of the PROM has been
programmed at the factory, the rest of the bits in the bipolar PROM are FF's
(un-fused).  As such, you can write new data into the un-programmed memory
space, no need to buy a new PROM.

--- Jeff WN3A




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items

2010-03-14 Thread Paul Plack
How do these transmitters play at crowded sites? I've heard some accounts of 
broadband noise problems for other tenants when high-power Glenayre equipment 
went in...

73,
Paul, AE4KR

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items


  I maintained a 900MHz Glenarye digital 
  simulcast system here in Connecticut years ago and played with the 
  analog mode, it worked nice...
  


[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items

2010-03-13 Thread skipp025
 Ken Arck ah...@... wrote:
 I'm looking for an Aerotron VHF MPAC receiver (believe it or not!) 
 and a complete service manual (schematics, blah blah) for a Quintron 
 QT-6500 series VHF Xmtr.
 Ken

Now who in their right mind would have that kind of stuff Ken?  

I'll Email you direct... 
s.