Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items
On 3/14/2010 11:41 PM, Paul Plack wrote: How do these transmitters play at crowded sites? I've heard some accounts of broadband noise problems for other tenants when high-power Glenayre equipment went in... 73, Paul, AE4KR Having worked on them for over 10 years now, I can say they are very clean-when installed properly-just like most any other brand. Frankly, in the paging industry, the Nucleus has a much worse rep then the Glenayres, especially the 8500/8600 series-probably just about the best paging transmitter made. I can say that the problems you have heard can be attributed to a few causes: -Poor installation, including improperly installed hardline connectors, or not properly weatherproofed, which once water gets in, it can cause IM. -IM generated from sources outside the transmitter -On occasion, the DSP exciters could go 'squirrely' and go into a failure mode that makes a lot of noise. It shouldn't go on long, because it will also affect paging in the area, as the digital waveform gets distorted too. -Digital modulation is always going to be somewhat dirtier then analog, and requires proper 'clean-up' so to speak. The Glenayre 900 MHz transmitters all came with a circulator, or at least a BP cavity on the lower power stations. Not all Nucs have one. - Original Message - From: Joe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items I maintained a 900MHz Glenarye digital simulcast system here in Connecticut years ago and played with the analog mode, it worked nice...
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items
At 09:40 PM 3/13/2010, skipp025 wrote: Now who in their right mind would have that kind of stuff Ken? ---You kidding? One of the most reliable, best performing repeaters I run is a Quintron UHF one I bought new, in the crate, in the mid-80's. And it's still going strong! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items
Ken Arck ah...@... wrote: ---You kidding? One of the most reliable, best performing repeaters I run is a Quintron UHF one I bought new, in the crate, in the mid-80's. And it's still going strong! Ken Nope, I wasn't kidding... of course you silly goose I was kidding and referring to the fact that I probably have more vintage odd stuff that most people on this Group so you should have Emailed me first. I was a factory trained Quintron Field Technical Rep in the 80's, which for you means I have probably every Quintron and most Glenayre Manuals, which also means you can probably get a copy of what you need from me... and you did Email me direct so I'll be looking through my collection. I clearly know how well designed and constructed Quintron Glenayre Equipment is... and... I have a few Quintron 900 MHz paging transmitter items in my collection I would happily give to a sincere and proper home. Pick up from The Greater Sacramento Area (kind of a oxymoron) or enough of a desire to pay shipping on some of the heavier items and they could be yours for free or the price of a Dayton Brat/Braut. You'd be helping me along my 12 Step Junk Enders Program. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com [I guess I'm going to have to include diagrams with my posts] :-) At 09:40 PM 3/13/2010, skipp025 wrote: Now who in their right mind would have that kind of stuff Ken?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items
Skipp, You wouldn't happen to have an old 900 MHz analog paging exciter laying around, would you? I still have a complete Glenayre paging station that is digital - would like to find an analog exciter to see if I could cobble up a 900 repeater out of it. Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of skipp025 Ken Arck ah...@... wrote: ---You kidding? One of the most reliable, best performing repeaters I run is a Quintron UHF one I bought new, in the crate, in the mid-80's. And it's still going strong! Ken Nope, I wasn't kidding... of course you silly goose I was kidding and referring to the fact that I probably have more vintage odd stuff that most people on this Group so you should have Emailed me first. I was a factory trained Quintron Field Technical Rep in the 80's, which for you means I have probably every Quintron and most Glenayre Manuals, which also means you can probably get a copy of what you need from me... and you did Email me direct so I'll be looking through my collection. I clearly know how well designed and constructed Quintron Glenayre Equipment is... and... I have a few Quintron 900 MHz paging transmitter items in my collection I would happily give to a sincere and proper home. Pick up from The Greater Sacramento Area (kind of a oxymoron) or enough of a desire to pay shipping on some of the heavier items and they could be yours for free or the price of a Dayton Brat/Braut. You'd be helping me along my 12 Step Junk Enders Program. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com [I guess I'm going to have to include diagrams with my posts] :-) At 09:40 PM 3/13/2010, skipp025 wrote: Now who in their right mind would have that kind of stuff Ken?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items
I just turned down a few of these about 6 months ago. Too bad. The problem with the Glenayre exciter is trying to figure out how to program it to the ham bands. There is a company in Illinois that still fixes Quintron/Glenayre stuff, I think they could program one for you. There is one on eBay right now. I maintained a 900MHz Glenarye digital simulcast system here in Connecticut years ago and played with the analog mode, it worked nice. My boss used to listen to the paging channel on a scanner. I used to freak him out with all kinds of sounds and audio on the 900MHz channel. It was fun. 73, Joe, K1ike Mark wrote: Skipp, You wouldn't happen to have an old 900 MHz analog paging exciter laying around, would you? I still have a complete Glenayre paging station that is digital - would like to find an analog exciter to see if I could cobble up a 900 repeater out of it. Mark - N9WYS
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items
Mark n9...@... wrote: Skipp, You wouldn't happen to have an old 900 MHz analog paging exciter laying around, would you? I still have a complete Glenayre paging station that is digital - would like to find an analog exciter to see if I could cobble up a 900 repeater out of it. Mark - N9WYS I'll look and if I do you can have it... Email me direct in a few days to check the status (give me a reminder). s. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of skipp025 Ken Arck ah6le@ wrote: ---You kidding? One of the most reliable, best performing repeaters I run is a Quintron UHF one I bought new, in the crate, in the mid-80's. And it's still going strong! Ken Nope, I wasn't kidding... of course you silly goose I was kidding and referring to the fact that I probably have more vintage odd stuff that most people on this Group so you should have Emailed me first. I was a factory trained Quintron Field Technical Rep in the 80's, which for you means I have probably every Quintron and most Glenayre Manuals, which also means you can probably get a copy of what you need from me... and you did Email me direct so I'll be looking through my collection. I clearly know how well designed and constructed Quintron Glenayre Equipment is... and... I have a few Quintron 900 MHz paging transmitter items in my collection I would happily give to a sincere and proper home. Pick up from The Greater Sacramento Area (kind of a oxymoron) or enough of a desire to pay shipping on some of the heavier items and they could be yours for free or the price of a Dayton Brat/Braut. You'd be helping me along my 12 Step Junk Enders Program. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com [I guess I'm going to have to include diagrams with my posts] :-) At 09:40 PM 3/13/2010, skipp025 wrote: Now who in their right mind would have that kind of stuff Ken?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items
The problem with the Glenayre exciter is trying to figure out how to program it to the ham bands. There is a company in Illinois that still fixes Quintron/Glenayre stuff, I think they could program one for you. There is one on eBay right now. I maintained a 900MHz Glenarye digital simulcast system here in Connecticut years ago and played with the analog mode, it worked nice. My boss used to listen to the paging channel on a scanner. I used to freak him out with all kinds of sounds and audio on the 900MHz channel. It was fun. 73, Joe, K1ike Which exciter? The universal exciter? I figured out the programming for those if you need it. I even made an easy-to-use Excel spreadsheet for calculating the values for the PROM. I think it's on the AR902mhz Yahoo group site, if not let me know and I can email it to you (assuming I can find it). By the way, most of the time only the first channel of the PROM has been programmed at the factory, the rest of the bits in the bipolar PROM are FF's (un-fused). As such, you can write new data into the un-programmed memory space, no need to buy a new PROM. --- Jeff WN3A
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items
How do these transmitters play at crowded sites? I've heard some accounts of broadband noise problems for other tenants when high-power Glenayre equipment went in... 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Joe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items I maintained a 900MHz Glenarye digital simulcast system here in Connecticut years ago and played with the analog mode, it worked nice...
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorta OT: Looking for a couple of items
Ken Arck ah...@... wrote: I'm looking for an Aerotron VHF MPAC receiver (believe it or not!) and a complete service manual (schematics, blah blah) for a Quintron QT-6500 series VHF Xmtr. Ken Now who in their right mind would have that kind of stuff Ken? I'll Email you direct... s.