Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
Don't assume anything In a message dated 2/12/2010 9:07:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, shield1...@yahoo.com writes: Let me get this right...you are txing on channel 31 and rxing on Channel 1 in the CB band? You are not in the US I assume. From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.kc8 To: Repeater-Builder@ Repeate Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 1:21:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater but for a multiple recieve site setup using a voter as others have pointed out won't work very well with RF links. - Original Message - From: Steve _steve.m1swb@ tiscali.co. uk_ (mailto:steve.m1...@tiscali.co.uk) To: _Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com_ (mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater Hi Why not use a uhf link ?, cheaper than a phone line and probably more reliable. 27Mhz, is in the cb band, isn't it Steve - Original Message - From: i recycle computers _kc8...@hotmail. com_ (mailto:kc8...@hotmail.com) To: _Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com_ (mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater here is my thought on how to implement this... TX site: Feq: 27.315 TPO: 4 Watts Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 4 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.315 Br: 27.965 Coax: Andrew 1 Inch Hardline Controller: Rack Mount Custom Controller, and Receive Voter Transmitter: Cutom Built Crystal Controlled 4 Watt AM Transmitter Rx Site: Freq: 27.965 Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 2 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.965 Br: 27.315 PreAmp: Custom Built Single Freq. Tower Mounted Pre Amp. Receiver: Custom Built Crystal Controlled AM Receiver Coax: Andrew 1 inch hardline Tx/Rx Site Seperation: 1 Mile Minimum Tx/Rx site Linking: Telco Wireline Yes I put a lot of thought into it :) I come up with all these wacky idea's, but never get around to implementing them. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport _http://www.radiorefhttp://www.http://www.http://www.r_ (http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836) - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
I do know about and have located lots of FRS, 11m, and MURS Radio Over IP links on the internet, they are similar to echolink Link type base stations. there is one located in Lincoln Nebraska for 11 meters. there are a bunch of PMR stations in the UK that have radio over ip connections to the internet that are publicly accessible. I am interested in why my design won't work. as stated in a few posts I made, I am not really interested in building one. maybe 15 or so years ago I might have, but no more. I am simply interested in the technical aspects of such a project and examples of ones that have been put service. and I should hope that it is hams who build these CB repeaters. I would not to see one that was built by some toothless piece of trailer trash so he can splatter his alcohol driven filth up and down the band with some unfiltered over driven linear. no not much research was done on that specification I laid out. Actually I did want to make a remote 11m base that uses the 900mhz ISM band as the control link. still do, regardless of legalities. everywhere I live seems to be a location that is not very good for getting good radio range and since i am a renter, 100 foot tower is out of the question. - Original Message - From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:45 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater Re: 11m Repeater n9...@... wrote: Don't assume anything Probably some of the best advise given on this group. shield1...@... writes: Let me get this right...you are txing on channel 31 and rxing on Channel 1 in the CB band? You are not in the US I assume. Doesn't really matter if he's in the US. This type of topic happens a lot more than you would expect and people try these type of circuits/packages a lot more than you would assume. The problem is it's hard to talk about an 11 Meter Repeater because it would not normally be a legal to operate system (at least in the US). I get the impression the original post was intended to ferret out the basic technical requirements and stories about... if anyone has ever done, made or used one. Sure, lot's of CB'ers and Hams have made and used CB and Ham Radio Repeaters and Remote Base Systems. But then Robert appears to drive the topic into subject areas that tend to make a lot of the regular Repeater-Builder Group People crazy. And the technical side of the original conversation starts to get blurred and disjointed with off topic sidebars. Moving along... but for a multiple receive site setup using a voter as others have pointed out won't work very well with RF links. Which is not true... Why not use a uhf link ?, cheaper than a phone line and probably more reliable. 27Mhz, is in the cb band, isn't it If so many sidebars were not going on with this gray area topic... a normal reply from the group regarding phone line links might be like... they are expensive to use/have unless the physical wire is owned by the person needing the connection, which means it would probably be a short telco line, a private wire, someone works for or has access to a telco business and has something special going on behind the scenes. Or, someone really has a lot of money to waste... Radio links regardless of the band in use are quite doable but you can expect they will be found and in the case of an illegal CB Repeater quickly messed with. here is my thought on how to implement this... You really should stop thinking so hard about the CB Repeater... it's getting old and thin here on the group. TX site: Feq: 27.315 TPO: 4 Watts Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 4 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.315 Br: 27.965 Coax: Andrew 1 Inch Hardline Controller: Rack Mount Custom Controller, and Receive Voter Transmitter: Custom Built Crystal Controlled 4 Watt AM Transmitter Just the above list tells many of the Group Regulars you're off in Technical La, La Dream Land. There's almost something worth shooting technical and real world holes into/through in every line of the above list. Onward... through the mud... Rx Site: Freq: 27.965 Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 2 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.965 Br: 27.315 PreAmp: Custom Built Single Freq. Tower Mounted Pre Amp. Receiver: Custom Built Crystal Controlled AM Receiver Coax: Andrew 1 inch hardline Tx/Rx Site Seperation: 1 Mile Minimum Tx/Rx site Linking: Telco Wireline Yes I put a lot of thought into it :) But not much honest homework or research... nor do you use a spell checker when making Group Posts. I come up with all these wacky idea's, but never get around to implementing them. Your ideas are all old rehash subjects having been done hundreds if not thousands of times through the decades. The fly in your soup is intended operation makes most of the people here at best nervous talking about the subject. The
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
At 09:23 AM 2/13/2010, i recycle computers wrote: I would not to see one that was built by some toothless piece of trailer trash so he can splatter his alcohol driven filth up and down the band with some unfiltered over driven linear. Simply wow
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
27.315 is channel 31, but 27.965 is not channel 1 - it's in the freeband. Channel 1 is 26.965. Joe M. shield1...@... writes: Let me get this right...you are txing on channel 31 and rxing on Channel 1 in the CB band?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
my bad. 26.965. was a typo. - Original Message - From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater 27.315 is channel 31, but 27.965 is not channel 1 - it's in the freeband. Channel 1 is 26.965. Joe M. shield1...@... writes: Let me get this right...you are txing on channel 31 and rxing on Channel 1 in the CB band? Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
I stayed away from the topic but I'd like to say: I hope the Rev. part of the sig is a nickname. As a minister to the motorcycle enthusiast, holier than thou name calling, is not the prime directive of said Reverends. I've got all my teeth (save one wisdom), don't consume alcoholic beverages, but I'm no better than those that are otherwise. That's all I've got on that. An AM repeater concept is nifty regardless of band. A cb repeater other than a store/forward repeater leaves most of the cb'ers out of it so why build it? If exclusivity is the goal, there are plenty of places an amateur ticket can take you. Here in the Ozarks, 11m is all over. Those that wanted to slug it out are still there or pirating around 75m. Those that wanted a cleaner or more private environment, attended a licensing class. Some after trying frs handhelds from walmart. Frs and murs are not CB, otherwords, license free != CB. Gmrs is a licensed band. Yada yada yada. My favorite bands to build/operate/talk about repeaters are on 10m and 6m with a bit of 70cm in there. 1.25 is very nice but unfortunately for me, not much play time there. Kb0wlf Novice repeater builder (even and especially after 16 years of working at it) -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 11:29 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater At 09:23 AM 2/13/2010, i recycle computers wrote: I would not to see one that was built by some toothless piece of trailer trash so he can splatter his alcohol driven filth up and down the band with some unfiltered over driven linear. Simply wow Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2681 - Release Date: 02/13/10 08:43:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
Agreed , pretty much insults a lot of people with such a derogatory generalisation might be time to drop the subject having established it could be done but wont B To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: ah...@ah6le.net Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:29:00 -0800 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater At 09:23 AM 2/13/2010, i recycle computers wrote: I would not to see one that was built by some toothless piece of trailer trash so he can splatter his alcohol driven filth up and down the band with some unfiltered over driven linear. Simply wow _ Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater family tradition...
This repeaters amp runs on alcohol? Green!!! LOL From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 1:16:54 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater family tradition... I would not to see one that was built by some toothless piece of trailer trash so he can splatter his alcohol driven filth up and down the band with some unfiltered over driven linear. Simply wow I know where to get a controller for that setup... already have the alcohol driven filth part under control. :-)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
wow...my glassesI must need new ones...I didnt even see that!! I saw .965 and didn't think to look at the rest of the freq! Sorry! From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 12:42:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater 27.315 is channel 31, but 27.965 is not channel 1 - it's in the freeband. Channel 1 is 26.965. Joe M. shield1...@. .. writes: Let me get this right...you are txing on channel 31 and rxing on Channel 1 in the CB band?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
Hey Rev, you got teeth... right? From: Ken Arck ah...@ah6le.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 12:29:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater At 09:23 AM 2/13/2010, i recycle computers wrote: I would not to see one that was built by some toothless piece of trailer trash so he can splatter his alcohol driven filth up and down the band with some unfiltered over driven linear. Simply wow
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
Hello all, I think we have heard enough pointless post about a non ham repeater topic. Please stop!! this is a good group of serious people used for ham radio purposes not CB central. Thanks, Greg Niles K9GJN --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Pointman shield1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Pointman shield1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 1:45 AM Hey Rev, you got teeth... right? From: Ken Arck ah...@ah6le. net To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 12:29:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater At 09:23 AM 2/13/2010, i recycle computers wrote: I would not to see one that was built by some toothless piece of trailer trash so he can splatter his alcohol driven filth up and down the band with some unfiltered over driven linear. Simply wow
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
Hi Why not use a uhf link ?, cheaper than a phone line and probably more reliable. 27Mhz, is in the cb band, isn't it Steve - Original Message - From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater here is my thought on how to implement this... TX site: Feq: 27.315 TPO: 4 Watts Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 4 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.315 Br: 27.965 Coax: Andrew 1 Inch Hardline Controller: Rack Mount Custom Controller, and Receive Voter Transmitter: Cutom Built Crystal Controlled 4 Watt AM Transmitter Rx Site: Freq: 27.965 Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 2 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.965 Br: 27.315 PreAmp: Custom Built Single Freq. Tower Mounted Pre Amp. Receiver: Custom Built Crystal Controlled AM Receiver Coax: Andrew 1 inch hardline Tx/Rx Site Seperation: 1 Mile Minimum Tx/Rx site Linking: Telco Wireline Yes I put a lot of thought into it :) I come up with all these wacky idea's, but never get around to implementing them. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
I was thinking 900 mhz ISM band. license free under part 15, 1 watt TPO up to 200 watt ERP for p2p links. can squeeze out a reliable 10 mile hop if implemented correctly. - Original Message - From: Steve steve.m1...@tiscali.co.uk To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater Hi Why not use a uhf link ?, cheaper than a phone line and probably more reliable. 27Mhz, is in the cb band, isn't it Steve - Original Message - From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater here is my thought on how to implement this... TX site: Feq: 27.315 TPO: 4 Watts Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 4 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.315 Br: 27.965 Coax: Andrew 1 Inch Hardline Controller: Rack Mount Custom Controller, and Receive Voter Transmitter: Cutom Built Crystal Controlled 4 Watt AM Transmitter Rx Site: Freq: 27.965 Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 2 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.965 Br: 27.315 PreAmp: Custom Built Single Freq. Tower Mounted Pre Amp. Receiver: Custom Built Crystal Controlled AM Receiver Coax: Andrew 1 inch hardline Tx/Rx Site Seperation: 1 Mile Minimum Tx/Rx site Linking: Telco Wireline Yes I put a lot of thought into it :) I come up with all these wacky idea's, but never get around to implementing them. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
but for a multiple recieve site setup using a voter as others have pointed out won't work very well with RF links. - Original Message - From: Steve steve.m1...@tiscali.co.uk To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater Hi Why not use a uhf link ?, cheaper than a phone line and probably more reliable. 27Mhz, is in the cb band, isn't it Steve - Original Message - From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater here is my thought on how to implement this... TX site: Feq: 27.315 TPO: 4 Watts Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 4 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.315 Br: 27.965 Coax: Andrew 1 Inch Hardline Controller: Rack Mount Custom Controller, and Receive Voter Transmitter: Cutom Built Crystal Controlled 4 Watt AM Transmitter Rx Site: Freq: 27.965 Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 2 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.965 Br: 27.315 PreAmp: Custom Built Single Freq. Tower Mounted Pre Amp. Receiver: Custom Built Crystal Controlled AM Receiver Coax: Andrew 1 inch hardline Tx/Rx Site Seperation: 1 Mile Minimum Tx/Rx site Linking: Telco Wireline Yes I put a lot of thought into it :) I come up with all these wacky idea's, but never get around to implementing them. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
Let me get this right...you are txing on channel 31 and rxing on Channel 1 in the CB band? You are not in the US I assume. From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 1:21:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater but for a multiple recieve site setup using a voter as others have pointed out won't work very well with RF links. - Original Message - From: Steve steve.m1swb@ tiscali.co. uk To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater Hi Why not use a uhf link ?, cheaper than a phone line and probably more reliable. 27Mhz, is in the cb band, isn't it Steve - Original Message - From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail. com To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater here is my thought on how to implement this... TX site: Feq: 27.315 TPO: 4 Watts Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 4 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.315 Br: 27.965 Coax: Andrew 1 Inch Hardline Controller: Rack Mount Custom Controller, and Receive Voter Transmitter: Cutom Built Crystal Controlled 4 Watt AM Transmitter Rx Site: Freq: 27.965 Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 2 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.965 Br: 27.315 PreAmp: Custom Built Single Freq. Tower Mounted Pre Amp. Receiver: Custom Built Crystal Controlled AM Receiver Coax: Andrew 1 inch hardline Tx/Rx Site Seperation: 1 Mile Minimum Tx/Rx site Linking: Telco Wireline Yes I put a lot of thought into it :) I come up with all these wacky idea's, but never get around to implementing them. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836 - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
this is just an excersize on paper as to how it would be implemented in the CB band. it is not for actually building. It is just to pass along to CB'ers who ask me how one would go about building a CB repeater. i would say 99.9% would see the complexities and not bother. but at least now i can explain how it would work the next time such a question arrises. I don't have the cash the resources or the real estate to implement such a setup. I am in the US and well aware of the legallities as well as the reallity that the FCC has all but given up on CB. but to the original question. yes Tx on 31 Rx on 1. back in Jersey 31 was the local get together channel so i used it in my example. - Original Message - From: Pointman shield1...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater Let me get this right...you are txing on channel 31 and rxing on Channel 1 in the CB band? You are not in the US I assume. From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 1:21:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater but for a multiple recieve site setup using a voter as others have pointed out won't work very well with RF links. - Original Message - From: Steve steve.m1swb@ tiscali.co. uk To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater Hi Why not use a uhf link ?, cheaper than a phone line and probably more reliable. 27Mhz, is in the cb band, isn't it Steve - Original Message - From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail. com To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater here is my thought on how to implement this... TX site: Feq: 27.315 TPO: 4 Watts Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 4 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.315 Br: 27.965 Coax: Andrew 1 Inch Hardline Controller: Rack Mount Custom Controller, and Receive Voter Transmitter: Cutom Built Crystal Controlled 4 Watt AM Transmitter Rx Site: Freq: 27.965 Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 2 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.965 Br: 27.315 PreAmp: Custom Built Single Freq. Tower Mounted Pre Amp. Receiver: Custom Built Crystal Controlled AM Receiver Coax: Andrew 1 inch hardline Tx/Rx Site Seperation: 1 Mile Minimum Tx/Rx site Linking: Telco Wireline Yes I put a lot of thought into it :) I come up with all these wacky idea's, but never get around to implementing them. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836 - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links
