Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector

2007-12-28 Thread Kevin Custer
I'm assuming you mean preselector - preamp.

At that frequency, they were usually made with a bipolar transistor, 
unless it was custom made; then it could be a GaAs device.  It is a 
MRF-901 (or equivalent) if it is bipolar.  Many times only 901 
appeared on the device, if it wasn't ever changed.  Looking at the 
components around it, one should be able to tell if it's a FET or a 
regular transistor.  I never owned one with a FET device, so I don't 
know what that would be.

Kevin

ldgelectronics wrote:
 Anyone know the device number of the gaasfet (or whatever type it is) 
 in the P-145 model?

 Inherited one with -12 db gain. Looks easy enough to fix.

 Thanks,

 Dwayne Kincaid 
 WD8OYG


Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector

2007-12-28 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:49 AM 12/28/07, you wrote:
Anyone know the device number of the gaasfet (or whatever type it is)
in the P-145 model?

Inherited one with -12 db gain. Looks easy enough to fix.

Thanks,

Dwayne Kincaid
WD8OYG

I fixed one years ago with a Siliconix U-310, but I have no doubt that there
are better devices out there today.

Mike WA6ILQ




Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector

2007-12-28 Thread Joe
I have a GLB Model P-147.49  that was custom made for me years ago.  It 
use an MRF901 device.

73, Joe, K1ike

ldgelectronics wrote:

 Anyone know the device number of the gaasfet (or whatever type it is)
 in the P-145 model?

 Inherited one with -12 db gain. Looks easy enough to fix.

 Thanks,

 Dwayne Kincaid
 WD8OYG

  


Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector Preamp, Re: midland 13-509 220mhz to convert to repeater

2005-08-05 Thread Joe
The GLB worked very well on my FM-76 (aka 13-509) but it only gave about 
8dB gain overall to the receiver.  Most of the gain was lost in the helical 
coil front end, but it worked wonders on marginal receivers.  It tighten up 
the receiver and gave the impression of more added gain than 8dB.  I still 
have a couple around for  222Mhz, maybe I'll sell them if there is an interest.

73, Joe, k1ike

At 05:28 PM 8/3/2005 -0400, you wrote:
  For Years I used the GLB Preamp/Preselector on thefront end of my 
 Midland 509 220Mhz  repeater
the preamp stage is  an MRF-901
  I think a Gasfet Preamp will create to much noise







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector

2005-08-05 Thread Joe
I move them a little at a time, don't try to make big changes or you will 
not be able to get a signal through it.  If you want to, you can take the 
cover off and inject a signal into each stage. Work from the output towards 
the antenna connection.  When you are able to get a signal from input to 
output that you can measure, put the cover back on and do the final tune up.

73, Joe, K1ike

At 07:42 PM 8/4/2005 +, you wrote:
Anybody know the proper tuning procedure to peak up/ move freq  for
the GLB preamp/preselector to maintain the rated selectivey?

Dale K0JXI







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector Preamp, Re: midland 13-509 220mhz to convert to repeater

2005-08-03 Thread Bob Dengler
At 8/2/2005 06:55 PM, you wrote:
Joe wrote:

  I had an FM76 convered to a 220Mhz repeater and used a GLB preselector 
 in front of the receiver. It helped a lot.  Unfortunately, the GLB is no 
 longer available.
 

Are you sure?

http://www.aria-glb.com/products/reset_frames.htm?/products/preselector.htm

Kevin

Anyone measure the noise figure of one of these units?  Even with the 
GaAsFET preamp, the overall NF is going to be high if the helical resonator 
loss is too high (resistive loss = NF).

Bob NO6B






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector Preamp, Re: midland 13-509 220mhz to convert to repeater

2005-08-03 Thread Neal Newman






For Years I used the GLB Preamp/Preselector on thefront end of my
Midland 509 220Mhz repeater
the preamp stage is an MRF-901
I think a Gasfet Preamp will create to much noise

Bob Dengler wrote:

  At 8/2/2005 06:55 PM, you wrote:
  
  
Joe wrote:



  I had an FM76 convered to a 220Mhz repeater and used a GLB preselector 
  

in front of the receiver. It helped a lot.  Unfortunately, the GLB is no 
longer available.

Are you sure?

http://www.aria-glb.com/products/reset_frames.htm?/products/preselector.htm

Kevin

  
  
Anyone measure the noise figure of one of these units?  Even with the 
GaAsFET preamp, the overall NF is going to be high if the helical resonator 
loss is too high (resistive loss = NF).

Bob NO6B






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector Preamp, Re: midland 13-509 220mhz to convert to repeater

2005-08-03 Thread Kevin Custer








Bob Dengler wrote:

  At 8/2/2005 06:55 PM, you wrote:
  
  
Joe wrote:



  I had an FM76 convered to a 220Mhz repeater and used a GLB preselector 
  

in front of the receiver. It helped a lot.  Unfortunately, the GLB is no 
longer available.

Are you sure?

http://www.aria-glb.com/products/reset_frames.htm?/products/preselector.htm

Kevin

  
  
Anyone measure the noise figure of one of these units?  Even with the 
GaAsFET preamp, the overall NF is going to be high if the helical resonator 
loss is too high (resistive loss = NF).

Bob NO6B


While I have never measured it, I can tell you the noise figure is
higher than a stock Hamtronics receiver with GaAs Fet's. Of course,
this unit should be used to filter out of band signals on receivers
that don't include a good front end filter, not as a preamp. The
preamp is only there to recover some of the loss of the unit, not to
add sensitivity. If the receiver is already good, this
preselector/preamp *can* make it worse, but, I'd bet it would add
usable sensitivity to a Mastr Pro type receiver with a basic
sensitivity of .5 uV. I have found that the resulting sensitivity is
slightly better than a good Micor or Mastr II (without a preamp) with
this P/P combination added to an already decent receiver (Hamtronics
R100, or the like). On VHF (including 220) , I have found nothing that
beats a good Micor RX with its companion helical preamp.

Kevin














  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector Preamp, Re: midland 13-509 220mhz to convert to repeater

2005-08-03 Thread Kevin Custer






I think you are confused Neal, the GaAs FET option was available on
GLB P/P 200 MHz and above. I did have them build me one for 2 meters,
but I didn't see much difference in the performance over the MRF-901 on
2 meters; certainly not worth the added cost.

Kevin

Neal Newman wrote:

  
  
For Years I used the GLB Preamp/Preselector on thefront end of my
Midland 509 220Mhz repeater
the preamp stage is an MRF-901
I think a Gasfet Preamp will create to much noise
  
Bob Dengler wrote:
  
At 8/2/2005 06:55 PM, you wrote:
  

  Joe wrote:


  
I had an FM76 convered to a 220Mhz repeater and used a GLB preselector 
  
  
  in front of the receiver. It helped a lot.  Unfortunately, the GLB is no 
longer available.

  Are you sure?

http://www.aria-glb.com/products/reset_frames.htm?/products/preselector.htm

Kevin



Anyone measure the noise figure of one of these units?  Even with the 
GaAsFET preamp, the overall NF is going to be high if the helical resonator 
loss is too high (resistive loss = NF).

Bob NO6B






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector Preamp, Re: midland 13-509 220mhz to convert to repeater

2005-08-02 Thread Kevin Custer
Joe wrote:

 I had an FM76 convered to a 220Mhz repeater and used a GLB preselector in 
 front of the receiver. It helped a lot.  Unfortunately, the GLB is no longer 
 available.


Are you sure?

http://www.aria-glb.com/products/reset_frames.htm?/products/preselector.htm

Kevin






 
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