Re: [Repeater-Builder] Listening
I've got a VOX recoding program that works well I could transfer to you (public domain I think) There are programs for some of the computer controllable scanners like the RS 2052 and Unidens that will not only record but time stamp each set of recordings. Mark A. Holman wrote: The thing with Scanning you was to leave a scanner @ the site with some sort of an audio recorder you have no clue which frequency is being monitored, however if you log and document which frequency you are listening to during a recording session and do it over a specified amount of time say 4 hours during the rush hour activity 3pm until 7 pm for example or longer if you prefer say 9 or 10 pm. it may give you a window of opportunity to see how much activity is going on. Mark AB8RU [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Listening --- Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I've been given several frequencies to listen to, prior to getting a pair assigned. What troubles me is that my home setup is never going to hear what I would hear at the repeater site. I could put the receiver at the repeater site, but then how would I know what it's doing? Any ideas? Put up a cross band repeater using very low power to the transmitter. If your receiver it on 2 meters you could use a low power 440 transmitter, wven with a beam to your house. Maybe even use some nonstandard repeater frequencies, just be sure the transmitter is in the repeater band. You could use a tape recorder with a vox on it, or there are some computer sound card programs that will do that if you want to leave a computer at the site. __ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Listening
At 09:04 AM 6/6/2005, Ronny Julian wrote: I've got a VOX recoding program that works well I could transfer to you (public domain I think) There are programs for some of the computer controllable scanners like the RS 2052 and Unidens that will not only record but time stamp each set of recordings. I've got one running now, and my R-8500 voices out the frequency whenever squelch breaks, so I'm set for monitoring from here. But, I don't have any good way to set this up at the site, unless I borrow a laptop somewhere, and even that's not all that wonderful, the site is essentially a broom closet, with nowhere to put anything, other than the radio cabinets. But, that may be what I end up doing. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Listening
How about a tape recorder with VOX on the receiver? I have done this with a scanner, like the Bearcat with the recording option to where you can tell it to record on receive so the tape does not run all the time. At quieter sites where a weak front end on the receiver will survive, you can get away with a scanner. At sites with a lot of RF, you may need a commercial receiver and a VOX Circuit to your recorder. One optionGood luck JIM -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave VanHorn Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:36 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Listening Ok, I've been given several frequencies to listen to, prior to getting a pair assigned. What troubles me is that my home setup is never going to hear what I would hear at the repeater site. I could put the receiver at the repeater site, but then how would I know what it's doing? Any ideas? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Listening
At 09:23 AM 6/5/2005, Jim Cicirello wrote: How about a tape recorder with VOX on the receiver? I have done this with a scanner, like the Bearcat with the recording option to where you can tell it to record on receive so the tape does not run all the time. At quieter sites where a weak front end on the receiver will survive, you can get away with a scanner. At sites with a lot of RF, you may need a commercial receiver and a VOX Circuit to your recorder. One optionGood luck JIM I had that option till recently, my voxed recorder curled up and died recently. Of course then you need to know what channel you're hearing. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Listening
Hi Dave, what the IRC wants to know is if there is any activity on the frequencies that you have been given to listen to. Then once you hear the activity, get the callsings of those using thre frequency. You are listening for various things, first coordinated activity, then uncoordinated activity, adjacent channel activity, do you get any operators that are close to you coming in on the input of the repeater pair that you are looking to use. The scanner recorder program they mentioned works great. If you not very far from where your repeater will be, at home listening will be fine. Once you have listened for a few weeks, then give your results to the IRC and they they will submit to the surrounding states and see if any of them oppose the pair they have given you. Hence warning, check the next pair above and below your given frequency within at least a 75 mile radius, if users use your system and they are beyond that point, they may cause intereference and it would cause you to be come uncoordinated. So listen on, above and below and see what you hear. If you are within 10 to 15 miles of the repeater site, and you have a good gain antenna, listening at home will be just fine. Mathew Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:23 AM 6/5/2005, Jim Cicirello wrote:How about a tape recorder with VOX on the receiver? I have done this with ascanner, like the Bearcat with the recording option to where you can tell itto record on receive so the tape does not run all the time. At quieter siteswhere a weak front end on the receiver will survive, you can get away with ascanner. At sites with a lot of RF, you may need a commercial receiver and aVOX Circuit to your recorder. One optionGood luck JIMI had that option till recently, my voxed recorder curled up and died recently.Of course then you need to know what channel you're hearing.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Listening
--- Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I've been given several frequencies to listen to, prior to getting a pair assigned. What troubles me is that my home setup is never going to hear what I would hear at the repeater site. I could put the receiver at the repeater site, but then how would I know what it's doing? Any ideas? Put up a cross band repeater using very low power to the transmitter. If your receiver it on 2 meters you could use a low power 440 transmitter, wven with a beam to your house. Maybe even use some nonstandard repeater frequencies, just be sure the transmitter is in the repeater band. You could use a tape recorder with a vox on it, or there are some computer sound card programs that will do that if you want to leave a computer at the site. __ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Listening
At 10:01 AM 6/5/2005, Mathew Quaife wrote: Hi Dave, what the IRC wants to know is if there is any activity on the frequencies that you have been given to listen to. Then once you hear the activity, get the callsings of those using thre frequency. You are listening for various things, first coordinated activity, then uncoordinated activity, adjacent channel activity, do you get any operators that are close to you coming in on the input of the repeater pair that you are looking to use. The scanner recorder program they mentioned works great. That part, I know. If you not very far from where your repeater will be, at home listening will be fine. Unfortunately, I only have relatively low gain omni antennas here, and not high at all. I'm dubious that I'll end up hearing anything useful. Once you have listened for a few weeks, then give your results to the IRC and they they will submit to the surrounding states and see if any of them oppose the pair they have given you. Hence warning, check the next pair above and below your given frequency within at least a 75 mile radius, if users use your system and they are beyond that point, they may cause intereference and it would cause you to be come uncoordinated. Interesting point.. Another machine in town, on 2M gets users from two, or sometimes three machines in different areas. We sometimes hear the outputs of those machines, but we frequently hear their users. Part of this is an industrial design issue, in that high power on your mobile rig is sticky. There's frequently a point where you must turn the power up, but there's never a point where you must turn the power down. So, mobiles tend to be left on high power. So listen on, above and below and see what you hear. If you are within 10 to 15 miles of the repeater site, and you have a good gain antenna, listening at home will be just fine. Good tip on the adjacent freqs. So I have six proposed pairs, plus two proposed control link frequencies, plus 12 additional above and below pairs.. I'm adding in the receiver image frequencies, as well as searching for any licensed services on the Nth harmonics below 1GHz. Yikes. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
