Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
I've done it several times using this method - works every time.

First I use a DOS floppy to FDISK and format the drive in the laptop. This way
the partition table is set the way the laptop BIOS will expect it.

Then I remove the drive from the laptop and connect it to my $40 universal
drive gimmick:
http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=1501sku=30504
A better photo that shows the included double-headed power supply and
]the SATA cable is here:
http://www.cablestogo.com/hi-res_image.asp?sku=30504image=30504-A.jpg

Then I copy the installation CD to the hard drive into a directory that
says what it is... W98CD, W98SECD, NT4CD, W2KCD, never use
the name Windows, WinNT,  or Win32

Then reinstall the drive into the laptop, boot into DOS from a floppy and
install from C:\whatever-your-directory-name-is\setup.exe

That little USB drive adapter is a lifesaver.

Disclaimer: I have no relationship to Cables To Go other than as a
satisfied repeat customer for over 10 years (my first purchase
was a 386-33 motherboard).

Mike WA6ILQ

At 06:12 AM 06/17/08, you wrote:
A simple solution to your dilemma is to pull the drive and connect it
with a $12.00 adapter to a modern 3.5 ide drive bay desktop computer,
format the drive as fat32,copy the win98se directory off of the cdrom
to the 2.5 laptop drive.. stick the laptop drive back into the
laptop.. boot from a dos boot floppy made in xp, and execute the
setup program on the hard drive in the windows directory... you do
not need the cdrom if you have all the cab files

Most decent computer stores offer 2.5 (laptop) drive adapters either
to USB or IDE so you can connect them to a standard desktop to work
on them or copy to/from...

My CF-27 has no cdrom, but XP can be loaded in a similar process more
or less, however the folder involved is the I386 folder from the
install cd...  The CF27 will take a lot bigger drive than 2
gigs. I think mine is a 60 split in 2 partitionsOne DOS
fat32, on XP NTFS

Doug
KD8B





At 07:21 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:

 Have you found one yet?
 
 *I May* have a CF27 up for sale. Bought it ironically at a hamfest 2
 weekends ago here in ATL. I LOVE the laptop. The only thing is that
 I am having a heck of a time getting at least Win98 on the drive. No
 CD drive. USB drive though. It came with a drive that had Lynx
 (sp?)on it that was not really functioning. Needed something to use
 with the program to program the Arcom RC210 with. Everything seems to
 work on it, but the drive did take a dive. I had another drive (2gig)






Yahoo! Groups Links





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

2008-06-18 Thread Doug Bade
Pre OS boot machine BIOS on most modern P3 class or newer laptops can 
see a usb drive device such as a floppy, cdrom or in P4 and later 
cases now flash drives. For the most part anything P3 800 or older 
will not see a flash drive without a software driver sub system... 
however in many cases P3 laptops with usb ports can be set to detect 
disk drives to boot from... even if internal bays are available but 
unpopulated.

PII versions, all bets are off...

CF27's came as PII's and PIII's...depending on age...

Doug


At 01:10 PM 6/18/2008, you wrote:

What did you do to get the usb port to be recognized? Seems like you
have to have it seen before you could use that.
Robert
ps Really don't want to have to get rid of it, but 3 repeater projects
are draining my resources right now ;-) Great laptop to grab and go
on repeaters though.

--- In 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, 
Mike Morris WA6ILQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've done it several times using this method - works every time.
 
  First I use a DOS floppy to FDISK and format the drive in the
laptop. This way
  the partition table is set the way the laptop BIOS will expect it.
 
  Then I remove the drive from the laptop and connect it to my $40
universal
  drive gimmick:
  
 http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=1501sku=30504http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=1501sku=30504
  A better photo that shows the included double-headed power supply and
  ]the SATA cable is here:
  
 http://www.cablestogo.com/hi-res_image.asp?sku=30504image=30504-A.jpghttp://www.cablestogo.com/hi-res_image.asp?sku=30504image=30504-A.jpg
 
  Then I copy the installation CD to the hard drive into a directory that
  says what it is... W98CD, W98SECD, NT4CD, W2KCD, never use
  the name Windows, WinNT, or Win32
 
  Then reinstall the drive into the laptop, boot into DOS from a
floppy and
  install from C:\whatever-your-directory-name-is\setup.exe
 
  That little USB drive adapter is a lifesaver.
 
  Disclaimer: I have no relationship to Cables To Go other than as a
  satisfied repeat customer for over 10 years (my first purchase
  was a 386-33 motherboard).
 
  Mike WA6ILQ
 
  At 06:12 AM 06/17/08, you wrote:
  A simple solution to your dilemma is to pull the drive and connect it
  with a $12.00 adapter to a modern 3.5 ide drive bay desktop computer,
  format the drive as fat32,copy the win98se directory off of the cdrom
  to the 2.5 laptop drive.. stick the laptop drive back into the
  laptop.. boot from a dos boot floppy made in xp, and execute the
  setup program on the hard drive in the windows directory... you do
  not need the cdrom if you have all the cab files
  
  Most decent computer stores offer 2.5 (laptop) drive adapters either
  to USB or IDE so you can connect them to a standard desktop to work
  on them or copy to/from...
  
  My CF-27 has no cdrom, but XP can be loaded in a similar process more
  or less, however the folder involved is the I386 folder from the
  install cd...  The CF27 will take a lot bigger drive than 2
  gigs. I think mine is a 60 split in 2 partitionsOne DOS
  fat32, on XP NTFS
  
  Doug
  KD8B
  
  
  
  
  
  At 07:21 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:
  
   Have you found one yet?
   
   *I May* have a CF27 up for sale. Bought it ironically at a hamfest 2
   weekends ago here in ATL. I LOVE the laptop. The only thing is that
   I am having a heck of a time getting at least Win98 on the drive. No
   CD drive. USB drive though. It came with a drive that had Lynx
   (sp?)on it that was not really functioning. Needed something to use
   with the program to program the Arcom RC210 with. Everything seems to
   work on it, but the drive did take a dive. I had another drive (2gig)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

2008-06-17 Thread Doug Bade
A simple solution to your dilemma is to pull the drive and connect it 
with a $12.00 adapter to a modern 3.5 ide drive bay desktop computer, 
format the drive as fat32,copy the win98se directory off of the cdrom 
to the 2.5 laptop drive.. stick the laptop drive back into the 
laptop.. boot from a dos boot floppy made in xp, and execute the 
setup program on the hard drive in the windows directory... you do 
not need the cdrom if you have all the cab files

Most decent computer stores offer 2.5 (laptop) drive adapters either 
to USB or IDE so you can connect them to a standard desktop to work 
on them or copy to/from...

My CF-27 has no cdrom, but XP can be loaded in a similar process more 
or less, however the folder involved is the I386 folder from the 
install cd...  The CF27 will take a lot bigger drive than 2 
gigs. I think mine is a 60 split in 2 partitionsOne DOS 
fat32, on XP NTFS

Doug
KD8B





At 07:21 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:

Have you found one yet?

*I May* have a CF27 up for sale. Bought it ironically at a hamfest 2
weekends ago here in ATL. I LOVE the laptop. The only thing is that
I am having a heck of a time getting at least Win98 on the drive. No
CD drive. USB drive though. It came with a drive that had Lynx
(sp?)on it that was not really functioning. Needed something to use
with the program to program the Arcom RC210 with. Everything seems to
work on it, but the drive did take a dive. I had another drive (2gig)