Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater problems solved

2009-11-11 Thread Jim Brown
This may have been addressed earlier, and if so I apologize.  A GE Mobile Mastr 
II will generate an oscillation in the audio output stage if it is not loaded 
at all times.  I don't remember the beginning of this thread, but if you are 
using a GE Mobile radio, this will wind up transmitting a tone on the repeated 
signal.

I go one step further than putting a load on the speaker leads (10 Ohms) - I 
place a small teflon sleeve over the pin to the mother board that supplies B+ 
to the audio output stage after desense tests are completed.  This removes B+ 
from the audio amp, and the sleeve can be removed if the audio output needs to 
be activated for later tests.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, W3ML w...@arrl.net wrote:

From: W3ML w...@arrl.net
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater problems solved
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 4:19 PM







 



  



  
  
  Thanks,



I will check that. It is funny that out of the guys that hear it most are using 
mobile rigs.  But, then the other night they said hey it is gone. Then ten 
minutes later it is back.



All I know is with the fixes I was given by a great bunch of hams on here and 
the GE site and the with the new antenna and coax the repeater works like it is 
suppose to and sounds great to me.



Of course, I am losing my hearing so I don't hear the tone.



Thanks and 73

John



--- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com, wd8chl wd8...@... wrote:



 W3ML wrote:

  If it is not the grounded negative terminal I will just put in high pass 
  filter on the PL cable.  That should help reduce it or remove it.

  

  Thanks all.

  

  73

   John

  

 

 I wouldn't do that. FIRST-unplug the encoder audio out lead and see if 

 it's still there (maybe the voltage in lead too, then ground). Then 

 check levels. It should be between 500 and 800 Hz deviation. Then look 

 for a good clean sine wave. Com-Spec SS-32's and TS-32's are known to 

 have a less than perfect sine wave and can sound a bit raspy sometimes.

 If all that is OK, the problem is on the receiving end.








 





 



  






  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater problems solved

2009-11-09 Thread wd8chl
W3ML wrote:
 If it is not the grounded negative terminal I will just put in high pass 
 filter on the PL cable.  That should help reduce it or remove it.
 
 Thanks all.
 
 73
  John
 

I wouldn't do that. FIRST-unplug the encoder audio out lead and see if 
it's still there (maybe the voltage in lead too, then ground). Then 
check levels. It should be between 500 and 800 Hz deviation. Then look 
for a good clean sine wave. Com-Spec SS-32's and TS-32's are known to 
have a less than perfect sine wave and can sound a bit raspy sometimes.
If all that is OK, the problem is on the receiving end.




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater problems solved

2009-11-08 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Was the heatsink compound all dried out?

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: W3ML w...@arrl.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:47 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater problems solved


 Okay Eric,


 I will check the power supply again.  But, yes most of them use Yaesu and 
 couple have Icoms.

 But, the hum is nothing we can't live with.  I don't hear it at all on the 
 speaker hooked to the repeater. But, of course my hearing is not the best 
 anymore.

 All I know it is nice to have the thing working like a repeater should.

 Thanks and 73
 John, W3ML




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater problems solved

2009-11-08 Thread Ken Arck
At 07:11 PM 11/8/2009, W3ML wrote:


You know that is funny as one of the guys said that last night it 
did stop. But, it was back today when he listened again.

I am thinking about placing torrids on the cable runs from the 
controller(RC210) to the box where the PL tone board is and then to 
the radio. Maybe put one between the RC210 and the tone board and 
then another one on the cable going to the radio out of the tone board.
131.8 Hz is close enough to 120 Hz so that most folks couldn't 
tell the difference.

I am at a loss to understand what you think the torroids will do? 
They won't filter the tone off the receiver audio at all.

Ken
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