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Yeah, I'd rather just keep it the same.  Failures here should be uncommon.


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Good catch, I just mistakenly changed to AsMS in one place but not both.

On the test changes, do you want tests waiting up to 2 minutes * however 
many kafka calls are being made?  If so I can rip everything else out, just let 
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Two comments:
 - I think `sc.conf.getTimeAsSeconds("spark.network.timeout", 
"120s").toString` is still wrong.  The suggestion is to make it the following:

```scala
val pollTimeoutMs = sourceOptions.getOrElse(
  "kafkaConsumer.pollTimeoutMs",
  sc.conf.getTimeAsMs("spark.network.timeout", "120s").toString).toLong
```
or maybe

```scala
val pollTimeoutMs = sourceOptions
  .get("kafkaConsumer.pollTimeoutMs")
  .map(_.toLong)
  .getOrElse(sc.conf.getTimeAsMs("spark.network.timeout", "120s"))
```

 - I'm not sure about the test changes.  Unless there is a good reason, I'd 
leave the tests alone and just use the default configuration there as well.


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Ok, I'll update the default in both places to use spark.network.timeout and 
leave the test config at 10 seconds


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I don't think these cases are comparable, silently swallowing offset out of 
range is dropping data on the floor.  In contrast, networks _are_ transiently 
flakey and we should be robust to that here like we are in all of the other 
parts of Spark.  Specifically, we should probably use `spark.network.timeout` 
if they haven't overridden this particular setting (which defaults to 120s).


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I will always choose "fail in an obvious way that I can start debugging"
versus "start behaving poorly in non-obvious ways".  Similar reason I
thought it was a really poor idea for the original PRs for structured
streaming kafka to silently swallow offset out of range:  something is
wrong, and I want to know about it.

Ultimately this particular thing is tunable, so if you really want to
increase the default to however many seconds let me know - it won't affect
my ability to do my job.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Michael Armbrust 
wrote:

> If we have prefetched the timeout should never kick in (I hope?), so we
> probably only care about the network here. If my choices are "fail the 
job"
> or "wait a little bit longer", I don't see why you would ever chose "fail
> the job" for transient network issues. If its not a transient issue, do 
you
> really think that knowing about it 9.5 seconds earlier outweighs that cost
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If we have prefetched the timeout should never kick in (I hope?), so we 
probably only care about the network here.  If my choices are "fail the job" or 
"wait a little bit longer", I don't see why you would ever chose "fail the job" 
for transient network issues.  If its not a transient issue, do you really 
think that knowing about it 9.5 seconds earlier outweighs that cost of false 
negatives?

I guess I don't understand what kind of Kafka issues you are optimizing for?


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In most cases poll should be returning prefetched data from the buffer, not
waiting to talk to kafka over the network.

I could see increasing it a little bit, but I don't think it should be
increased to 10 seconds by default.  That's a really long time for a 1
second batch streaming job to silently wait, and the only thing you'll be
able to observe is that your job starts running slow for some unknown
reason.  At least with a smaller default any network or Kafka issues will
be obvious, and you can either diagnose them or tune upwards.


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> Is there are reason to not change the user facing default? Its failing our
> tests and it was failing for me for real with the current default. When we
> are poling on the executors, the offsets should always be available, so I
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Is there are reason to not change the user facing default?  Its failing our 
tests and it was failing for me for real with the current default.  When we are 
poling on the executors, the offsets should always be available, so I don't 
think increasing the timeout will hurt anything.


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[GitHub] spark issue #15737: [SPARK-18212][SS][KAFKA] increase executor poll timeout

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