Re: [Rosegarden-user] audio subsystem not available - can't record audio

2023-07-15 Thread ram
Hi Ted,

As requested:

Rosegarden 20.06 - AlsaDriver [ALSA library version 1.2.2, module version
5.11.0-7620-generic, kernel version 5.11.0-7620-generic]

===
JackDriver::initialise() begin...
JACK sample rate = 88200Hz, buffer size = 2048
Creating audio file thread...
Found 1 JACK physical outputs
connecting from "rosegarden:master out L" to "a2j:Midi Through [14]
(playback): Midi Through Port-0"
WARNING: cannot connect to JACK output port

  ALSA Client information:

14,0 - (Midi Through, Midi Through Port-0)  (DUPLEX) [ctype 
2, ptype
655362, cap 99]
128,0 - (FLUID Synth (47987), Synth input port (47987:0))   (WRITE
ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 1310726, cap 66]

Using low-resolution system timer, sending a warning
Current timer set to "system timer"
WARNING: using system timer with only 250Hz resolution!
AlsaDriver::initialiseMidi -  initialised MIDI subsystem

AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "" requested for device 0
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: fuzzy match 128:0 Synth input port
(47987:0) (write) available with fitness 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "" requested for device 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: nothing suitable available

  ALSA Client information:

14,0 - (Midi Through, Midi Through Port-0)  (DUPLEX) [ctype 
2, ptype
655362, cap 99]
128,0 - (FLUID Synth (47987), Synth input port (47987:0))   (WRITE
ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 1310726, cap 66]

AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "20:0 UMC1820 MIDI 1
(duplex)" requested for device 0
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: nothing suitable available
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "20:0 UMC1820 MIDI 1
(duplex)" requested for device 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: nothing suitable available

  ALSA Client information:

14,0 - (Midi Through, Midi Through Port-0)  (DUPLEX) [ctype 
2, ptype
655362, cap 99]
128,0 - (FLUID Synth (47987), Synth input port (47987:0))   (WRITE
ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 1310726, cap 66]

AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "" requested for device 0
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: fuzzy match 128:0 Synth input port
(47987:0) (write) available with fitness 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "" requested for device 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: nothing suitable available

  ALSA Client information:

14,0 - (Midi Through, Midi Through Port-0)  (DUPLEX) [ctype 
2, ptype
655362, cap 99]
128,0 - (FLUID Synth (47987), Synth input port (47987:0))   (WRITE
ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 1310726, cap 66]

Using low-resolution system timer, sending a warning
Current timer set to "system timer"
WARNING: using system timer with only 250Hz resolution!
Using low-resolution system timer, sending a warning
Current timer set to "system timer"
WARNING: using system timer with only 250Hz resolution!
Using low-resolution system timer, sending a warning
Current timer set to "system timer"
WARNING: using system timer with only 250Hz resolution!



>For troubleshooting JACK issues, there is a log viewer in
> preferences.  Go to Edit > Preferences... > Details...
>
>That will display the log viewer.  See if there's anything
> interesting there.  If needed, copy and paste and email it to the list
> and we'll look further.
>
> Ted.
>
> On 7/15/23 12:25 AM, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I'm getting the following error message when I try to activate recording
>> on an audio track:
>>
>> "audio subsystem not available - can't record audio"
>>
>> in a window that has the header:
>>
>> Rosegarden (as superuser)
>>
>> This is happening with Rosegarden Version 23.06 "Flutterbye"
>> Build Key 13280f9033
>> Qt Version 5.15.9
>>
>> Running under Pop!_OS 20.10 Linux with
>> QjackCtl Version 0.5.0
>> Qsynth Version 0.6.3
>> Using FluidSynth 2.1.3
>>
>> QjackCtl and Qsynth are working and sound fine.  Qsynth's audio outputs
>> show up on QjackCtl's patchbay but no audio inputs to Rosegarden appear.
>> All the MIDI ins and outs seem to be working fine.
>>
>> The "self-recording" feature of Rosegarden used to work.  Is this a bug?
>> Is there a workaround?  I used to use it to record (with perfect
>> synchronization) track by track, and sometimes double track, various
>> patches and synths.
>>
>> Thanks for all you do, and in advance,
>>
>> r...@hydrophones.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] audio subsystem not available - can't record audio

2023-07-15 Thread ram
> Sat, 15 Jul 2023 07:38:51 -
> r...@hydrophones.com :
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In further bizarre behavior, if I type the command rosegarden in a
>> terminal, rosegarden comes up but NOT in superuser mode, if I then
>> import
>> a rg file, it seems to come up normally which contrasts that if I mouse
>> click on an rg file it brings up rosegarden in superuser mode!
>>
>> In any event, in either mode I get the message "audio subsystem not
>> available - can't record audio" from Rosegarden.
>>
>> However, I can record into Audacity, but then how do I synchronize it if
>> I
>> do several tracks at different times, i.e. not everything in one go?
>>
>> Thanks again for looking into this,
>
> Somewhat OT... I've been finding direct audio recording into RG
> 'irregularly successful' so I have drifted to using jack_capture, but that
> also requires track alignement in any subsequent remix. And how do you
> record into Audacity BTW, never tried THAT one yet?
>

Recording into Audacity on the same machine doesn't work too well, it gets
dropouts.  Next I'll try recording on another machine using netjack.

>
> Finally about that superuser thing, that icon-clicking rang a bell here,
> does the icon execution begin with 'sudo' or such?
>

No. Just clicking on a .rg file to bring up Rosegarden has it come up in
superuser mode.  But typing rosegarden in a terminal it comes up
"normally" (except the internal audio recording doesn't work)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] audio subsystem not available - can't record audio

2023-07-15 Thread krsgrdn



Sat, 15 Jul 2023 18:51:03 +0200
Lorenzo Sutton  :

> On 15/07/2023 12:53, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:
> > Sat, 15 Jul 2023 07:38:51 -
> > r...@hydrophones.com :
> > 
> [...]
> > 
> > Somewhat OT... I've been finding direct audio recording into RG 
> > 'irregularly successful' so I have drifted to using jack_capture, but that 
> > also requires track alignement in any subsequent remix. And how do you 
> > record into Audacity BTW, never tried THAT one yet?
> 
> Rosegarden can also use Jack Transport (only as 'Master' AFAIK) by 
> selecting Edit > Preferences > General > Use JACK Transport
> 
> Then you could use jack_capture with the option:
> 
> jack_capture --jack-transport -mc
> 
> Then when you start playback in rosegarden jack_capture will start and 
> stop when rosegarden is also stopped.

Thanks, I didn't know that, great stuff!


> Note that because of the -mc option you first need to do the (jack 
> audio) connections to jack_capture *before* you start recording - this 
> is probably good because otherwise jack_capture tries to autoconnect
> 
> Another approach still using jack transport would be to use another 
> software (e.g. Ardour) for the audio recording part (which I've done in 
> the past)
> 
> Lorenzo
> 
> 
> > 
> > Finally about that superuser thing, that icon-clicking rang a bell here, 
> > does the icon execution begin with 'sudo' or such?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] audio subsystem not available - can't record audio

2023-07-15 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

On 15/07/2023 12:53, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:

Sat, 15 Jul 2023 07:38:51 -
r...@hydrophones.com :


[...]


Somewhat OT... I've been finding direct audio recording into RG 'irregularly 
successful' so I have drifted to using jack_capture, but that also requires 
track alignement in any subsequent remix. And how do you record into Audacity 
BTW, never tried THAT one yet?


Rosegarden can also use Jack Transport (only as 'Master' AFAIK) by 
selecting Edit > Preferences > General > Use JACK Transport


Then you could use jack_capture with the option:

jack_capture --jack-transport -mc

Then when you start playback in rosegarden jack_capture will start and 
stop when rosegarden is also stopped.


Note that because of the -mc option you first need to do the (jack 
audio) connections to jack_capture *before* you start recording - this 
is probably good because otherwise jack_capture tries to autoconnect


Another approach still using jack transport would be to use another 
software (e.g. Ardour) for the audio recording part (which I've done in 
the past)


Lorenzo




Finally about that superuser thing, that icon-clicking rang a bell here, does 
the icon execution begin with 'sudo' or such?







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Re: [Rosegarden-user] audio subsystem not available - can't record audio

2023-07-15 Thread Ted Felix
  For troubleshooting JACK issues, there is a log viewer in 
preferences.  Go to Edit > Preferences... > Details...


  That will display the log viewer.  See if there's anything 
interesting there.  If needed, copy and paste and email it to the list 
and we'll look further.


Ted.

On 7/15/23 12:25 AM, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:

Hi guys,

I'm getting the following error message when I try to activate recording
on an audio track:

"audio subsystem not available - can't record audio"

in a window that has the header:

Rosegarden (as superuser)

This is happening with Rosegarden Version 23.06 "Flutterbye"
Build Key 13280f9033
Qt Version 5.15.9

Running under Pop!_OS 20.10 Linux with
QjackCtl Version 0.5.0
Qsynth Version 0.6.3
Using FluidSynth 2.1.3

QjackCtl and Qsynth are working and sound fine.  Qsynth's audio outputs
show up on QjackCtl's patchbay but no audio inputs to Rosegarden appear.
All the MIDI ins and outs seem to be working fine.

The "self-recording" feature of Rosegarden used to work.  Is this a bug?
Is there a workaround?  I used to use it to record (with perfect
synchronization) track by track, and sometimes double track, various
patches and synths.

Thanks for all you do, and in advance,

r...@hydrophones.com




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Re: [Rosegarden-user] audio subsystem not available - can't record audio

2023-07-15 Thread krsgrdn
Sat, 15 Jul 2023 07:38:51 -
r...@hydrophones.com :


> Hi all,
> 
> In further bizarre behavior, if I type the command rosegarden in a
> terminal, rosegarden comes up but NOT in superuser mode, if I then import
> a rg file, it seems to come up normally which contrasts that if I mouse
> click on an rg file it brings up rosegarden in superuser mode!
> 
> In any event, in either mode I get the message "audio subsystem not
> available - can't record audio" from Rosegarden.
> 
> However, I can record into Audacity, but then how do I synchronize it if I
> do several tracks at different times, i.e. not everything in one go?
> 
> Thanks again for looking into this,

Somewhat OT... I've been finding direct audio recording into RG 'irregularly 
successful' so I have drifted to using jack_capture, but that also requires 
track alignement in any subsequent remix. And how do you record into Audacity 
BTW, never tried THAT one yet?

Finally about that superuser thing, that icon-clicking rang a bell here, does 
the icon execution begin with 'sudo' or such?



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] audio subsystem not available - can't record audio

2023-07-15 Thread ram
> On 7/14/23 18:25, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I'm getting the following error message when I try to activate recording
>> on an audio track:
>>
>> "audio subsystem not available - can't record audio"
>>
>> in a window that has the header:
>>
>> Rosegarden (as superuser)
>>
>> This is happening with Rosegarden Version 23.06 "Flutterbye"
>> Build Key 13280f9033
>> Qt Version 5.15.9
>>
>> Running under Pop!_OS 20.10 Linux with
>> QjackCtl Version 0.5.0
>> Qsynth Version 0.6.3
>> Using FluidSynth 2.1.3
>>
>> QjackCtl and Qsynth are working and sound fine.  Qsynth's audio outputs
>> show up on QjackCtl's patchbay but no audio inputs to Rosegarden appear.
>> All the MIDI ins and outs seem to be working fine.
>>
>> The "self-recording" feature of Rosegarden used to work.  Is this a bug?
>> Is there a workaround?  I used to use it to record (with perfect
>> synchronization) track by track, and sometimes double track, various
>> patches and synths.
>>
>> Thanks for all you do, and in advance,
>>
>> r...@hydrophones.com
>>
> Hmm, my understanding is that the general recommendation is that
> Rosegarden (and other audio applications) *should not be run as
> superuser*. In other words, create an ordinary user login and use that.
>
> In general, running as superuser is a great big security hole...
>
> --
> David W. Jones
> gn...@hawaii.rr.com
> authenticity, honesty, community
> http://dancingtreefrog.com
> "My password is the last 8 digits of π."
>

Hi all,

In further bizarre behavior, if I type the command rosegarden in a
terminal, rosegarden comes up but NOT in superuser mode, if I then import
a rg file, it seems to come up normally which contrasts that if I mouse
click on an rg file it brings up rosegarden in superuser mode!

In any event, in either mode I get the message "audio subsystem not
available - can't record audio" from Rosegarden.

However, I can record into Audacity, but then how do I synchronize it if I
do several tracks at different times, i.e. not everything in one go?

Thanks again for looking into this,

r...@hydrophones.com





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Re: [Rosegarden-user] audio subsystem not available - can't record audio

2023-07-15 Thread david

On 7/14/23 20:25, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:

On 7/14/23 18:25,r...@hydrophones.com  wrote:

Hi guys,

I'm getting the following error message when I try to activate recording
on an audio track:

"audio subsystem not available - can't record audio"

in a window that has the header:

Rosegarden (as superuser)

This is happening with Rosegarden Version 23.06 "Flutterbye"
Build Key 13280f9033
Qt Version 5.15.9

Running under Pop!_OS 20.10 Linux with
QjackCtl Version 0.5.0
Qsynth Version 0.6.3
Using FluidSynth 2.1.3

QjackCtl and Qsynth are working and sound fine.  Qsynth's audio outputs
show up on QjackCtl's patchbay but no audio inputs to Rosegarden appear.
All the MIDI ins and outs seem to be working fine.

The "self-recording" feature of Rosegarden used to work.  Is this a bug?
Is there a workaround?  I used to use it to record (with perfect
synchronization) track by track, and sometimes double track, various
patches and synths.

Thanks for all you do, and in advance,

r...@hydrophones.com


Hmm, my understanding is that the general recommendation is that
Rosegarden (and other audio applications) *should not be run as
superuser*. In other words, create an ordinary user login and use that.

In general, running as superuser is a great big security hole...



That is the funny thing, I am logged in as an ordinary user.  I have no
idea how the superuser designation got in there.  Fortunately that machine
is not regularly connected to the internet.


Not sure, then, but maybe it was run one time as superuser???

I just tried mine, it doesn't show Superuser, but I'm only showing 20.12 
for reason, I thought I had 22.something on here...Well, just grabbed 
23.12 source, compiled and run... still doesn't show as superuser.


Just tried running it as superuser via sudo rosegarden - still no sign 
of "superuser" in the terminal title...


I'm running Debian 11 with the XFCE desktop. Maybe it's something 
connected with your distro/desktop environment???


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] audio subsystem not available - can't record audio

2023-07-15 Thread ram
> On 7/14/23 18:25, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I'm getting the following error message when I try to activate recording
>> on an audio track:
>>
>> "audio subsystem not available - can't record audio"
>>
>> in a window that has the header:
>>
>> Rosegarden (as superuser)
>>
>> This is happening with Rosegarden Version 23.06 "Flutterbye"
>> Build Key 13280f9033
>> Qt Version 5.15.9
>>
>> Running under Pop!_OS 20.10 Linux with
>> QjackCtl Version 0.5.0
>> Qsynth Version 0.6.3
>> Using FluidSynth 2.1.3
>>
>> QjackCtl and Qsynth are working and sound fine.  Qsynth's audio outputs
>> show up on QjackCtl's patchbay but no audio inputs to Rosegarden appear.
>> All the MIDI ins and outs seem to be working fine.
>>
>> The "self-recording" feature of Rosegarden used to work.  Is this a bug?
>> Is there a workaround?  I used to use it to record (with perfect
>> synchronization) track by track, and sometimes double track, various
>> patches and synths.
>>
>> Thanks for all you do, and in advance,
>>
>> r...@hydrophones.com
>>
> Hmm, my understanding is that the general recommendation is that
> Rosegarden (and other audio applications) *should not be run as
> superuser*. In other words, create an ordinary user login and use that.
>
> In general, running as superuser is a great big security hole...
>
> --
> David W. Jones
> gn...@hawaii.rr.com
> authenticity, honesty, community
> http://dancingtreefrog.com
> "My password is the last 8 digits of π."
>

That is the funny thing, I am logged in as an ordinary user.  I have no
idea how the superuser designation got in there.  Fortunately that machine
is not regularly connected to the internet.




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