Re: [Rosegarden-user] Lost midi assignments
Yup. On 11/25/2013 06:17 AM, chuck elliot wrote: > All the devices are connected and ready when I start RG. > I have set up the default studio file but I am talking about > songs I have saved in *.RG format which, I believe, is designed to save > the studio settings. So it sounds like the ALSA behaviour mentioned > by DMM below... > > > On Sun, 2013-11-24 at 19:30 -0500, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> On 11/24/2013 02:50 PM, wersdfihaspdojsdfjn...@freenet.de wrote: >> >>> So I reconfigure my 3 in- and 2 outports everytime I start RG. >> >> I didn't hear anybody mention Studio -> Save Current Document as Default >> Studio in any of this discussion. The idea is to start with an empty >> composition, configure the MIDI connection nonsense how you want, and >> then save it as the default studio. This is used when creating new >> document. There is also "Always use default studio when loading files >> []" on the MIDI tab under Edit -> Preferences. >> >> Assuming you knew all that, there is still the problem of ALSA changing >> the ID of everything every time you boot. Rosegarden uses a matching >> algorithm that attempts to deal with that by searching for a string as >> well as a port number, but in practice this algorithm hasn't ever worked >> that well, and it's frequently necessary to tweak things by hand. >> >> It's supposed to be possible to get ALSA to assign the same ID every >> time by editing some arcane file and putting undocumented magic words in >> it, but good luck with that. I've never gotten it to work. The >> documentation that exists for that is like going to a foreign country >> with a simple phrase book that doesn't give you enough vocabulary to do >> anything beyond finding the train station or the bathroom. There is no >> guide to learning the entire language as far as I know, and the whole >> mess is harder to decipher than Greek. > > > > -- > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Lost midi assignments
All the devices are connected and ready when I start RG. I have set up the default studio file but I am talking about songs I have saved in *.RG format which, I believe, is designed to save the studio settings. So it sounds like the ALSA behaviour mentioned by DMM below... On Sun, 2013-11-24 at 19:30 -0500, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On 11/24/2013 02:50 PM, wersdfihaspdojsdfjn...@freenet.de wrote: > > > So I reconfigure my 3 in- and 2 outports everytime I start RG. > > I didn't hear anybody mention Studio -> Save Current Document as Default > Studio in any of this discussion. The idea is to start with an empty > composition, configure the MIDI connection nonsense how you want, and > then save it as the default studio. This is used when creating new > document. There is also "Always use default studio when loading files > []" on the MIDI tab under Edit -> Preferences. > > Assuming you knew all that, there is still the problem of ALSA changing > the ID of everything every time you boot. Rosegarden uses a matching > algorithm that attempts to deal with that by searching for a string as > well as a port number, but in practice this algorithm hasn't ever worked > that well, and it's frequently necessary to tweak things by hand. > > It's supposed to be possible to get ALSA to assign the same ID every > time by editing some arcane file and putting undocumented magic words in > it, but good luck with that. I've never gotten it to work. The > documentation that exists for that is like going to a foreign country > with a simple phrase book that doesn't give you enough vocabulary to do > anything beyond finding the train station or the bathroom. There is no > guide to learning the entire language as far as I know, and the whole > mess is harder to decipher than Greek. -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Lost midi assignments
On 11/24/2013 02:50 PM, wersdfihaspdojsdfjn...@freenet.de wrote: > So I reconfigure my 3 in- and 2 outports everytime I start RG. I didn't hear anybody mention Studio -> Save Current Document as Default Studio in any of this discussion. The idea is to start with an empty composition, configure the MIDI connection nonsense how you want, and then save it as the default studio. This is used when creating new document. There is also "Always use default studio when loading files []" on the MIDI tab under Edit -> Preferences. Assuming you knew all that, there is still the problem of ALSA changing the ID of everything every time you boot. Rosegarden uses a matching algorithm that attempts to deal with that by searching for a string as well as a port number, but in practice this algorithm hasn't ever worked that well, and it's frequently necessary to tweak things by hand. It's supposed to be possible to get ALSA to assign the same ID every time by editing some arcane file and putting undocumented magic words in it, but good luck with that. I've never gotten it to work. The documentation that exists for that is like going to a foreign country with a simple phrase book that doesn't give you enough vocabulary to do anything beyond finding the train station or the bathroom. There is no guide to learning the entire language as far as I know, and the whole mess is harder to decipher than Greek. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Lost midi assignments
On So, 2013-11-24 at 14:51 +, Abrolag wrote: > On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 13:41:39 + > chuck elliot wrote: > > > Hi All, > > before moaning, let me first say how great I think RG is! > > A problem I have had with successive releases has been > > that my midi assignments are not recalled correctly. I > > have a dual USB midi interface and a standard sound card > > which also has a built in midi interface. I have a Korg M1 > > connected to USB midi 2 and a Korg M3 connected to USB midi 1. > > The sound card is for audio only. However, when I start up RG > > I find it has reassigned instruments to the sound card midi > > interface and these have to be reset to their correct destinations. > > Any enlightenment gratefully received... > > > > Best wishes, > > Chuck Elliot. > > > What order are you starting things up in? Rosegarden has to be absolutely the > last thing. Logically, it can't connect to something that isn't there. It > tries > to be helpful and connected to whatever it *can* find. > Hello, I can confirm this behavior. I my mind it is a problem of the randomly assigned numbers of alsa devices on boot up. I'm using ubuntu 13.10 and the RG 13.04 from the package repository. But the problem was in rosegarden since I use it. I don't know, how RG saves the midi-studio-configuration. If there are alsa device-id saved, maybe on next boot they are completely different. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm only a user. But setting a definitve alsa-id to every device isn't so easy to configure, I'm afraid to destroy my apart from that ice running system. So I reconfigure my 3 in- and 2 outports everytime I start RG. If theres a easy way to work around this, please let us know. best wishes, Rockford -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Lost midi assignments
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 13:41:39 + chuck elliot wrote: > Hi All, > before moaning, let me first say how great I think RG is! > A problem I have had with successive releases has been > that my midi assignments are not recalled correctly. I > have a dual USB midi interface and a standard sound card > which also has a built in midi interface. I have a Korg M1 > connected to USB midi 2 and a Korg M3 connected to USB midi 1. > The sound card is for audio only. However, when I start up RG > I find it has reassigned instruments to the sound card midi > interface and these have to be reset to their correct destinations. > Any enlightenment gratefully received... > > Best wishes, > Chuck Elliot. What order are you starting things up in? Rosegarden has to be absolutely the last thing. Logically, it can't connect to something that isn't there. It tries to be helpful and connected to whatever it *can* find. -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Lost midi assignments
Hi All, before moaning, let me first say how great I think RG is! A problem I have had with successive releases has been that my midi assignments are not recalled correctly. I have a dual USB midi interface and a standard sound card which also has a built in midi interface. I have a Korg M1 connected to USB midi 2 and a Korg M3 connected to USB midi 1. The sound card is for audio only. However, when I start up RG I find it has reassigned instruments to the sound card midi interface and these have to be reset to their correct destinations. Any enlightenment gratefully received... Best wishes, Chuck Elliot. -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
