Re: [rt-users] Consulting back-office or other departments without notifying requestor

2016-02-24 Thread Martin Criminale
We use both option #1 and #2 suggested by Ram below.

Martin Criminale
University of Washington Information School IT



From: rt-users [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of 
Ram
Sent: February 24, 2016 11:10 AM
To: rt-users <rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com>
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Consulting back-office or other departments without 
notifying requestor

Hello group,

We're using RT for several years now and upgraded recently to RT 4.4
A lot of our tickets involve requests where the owner of the ticket needs to 
make some inquiries or put other departments at work.
e.g. As a response to a ticket a new user account has to be created and some 
actions like delivering devices (smartphone, laptop) or giving access to 
applications has to be done by other departments.

We could manually send out some answers or replies with the involved 
departments  in CC:
But, since these are not comments,  by default the requestor gets all the 
correspondence as well, e.g. when the department answers that the smartphone is 
ready to be picked up.
This is not what we want.

The situation above can be compared with the queue "Investigations" in RTIR 
where new tickets are created, linked to the original one, but without 
notifying the requestor(s)
Installing RTIR seems like overkill, since this has little or nothing to do 
with incidents.

What is the best practice to create a working solution for this problem?
Has anyone done this before? Are there some ready-made contributions that I can 
use?
My knowledge of Perl is rather limited, so I could create a scrip but this 
should mainly be based on copy-pasting and little adjustments of examples.

Much obliged,
Lieven

Three options i can think of:
1 "comment" and and CC the other group; replies will also be comments and 
therefor not sent nor seen by the requestor. This depends on you having a 
-comment@ email address defined separately from the generic queue email address.
2 Add the other group as Ticket AdminCC and then comment. This will result in 
them seeing all the Ticket traffic which you may not want (or only sometimes 
want).
3 Link tickets

I use all three of these depending on the situation
cheers


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Re: [rt-users] Consulting back-office or other departments without notifying requestor

2016-02-24 Thread Ram
>
> Hello group,
>
> We're using RT for several years now and upgraded recently to RT 4.4
> A lot of our tickets involve requests where the owner of the ticket needs
> to make some inquiries or put other departments at work.
> e.g. As a response to a ticket a new user account has to be created and
> some actions like delivering devices (smartphone, laptop) or giving access
> to applications has to be done by other departments.
>
> We could manually send out some answers or replies with the involved
> departments  in CC:
> But, since these are not comments,  by default the requestor gets all the
> correspondence as well, e.g. when the department answers that the
> smartphone is ready to be picked up.
> This is not what we want.
>
> The situation above can be compared with the queue "Investigations" in
> RTIR where new tickets are created, linked to the original one, but without
> notifying the requestor(s)
> Installing RTIR seems like overkill, since this has little or nothing to
> do with incidents.
>
> What is the best practice to create a working solution for this problem?
> Has anyone done this before? Are there some ready-made contributions that
> I can use?
> My knowledge of Perl is rather limited, so I could create a scrip but this
> should mainly be based on copy-pasting and little adjustments of examples.
>
> Much obliged,
> Lieven
>
>
Three options i can think of:
1 "comment" and and CC the other group; replies will also be comments and
therefor not sent nor seen by the requestor. This depends on you having a
-comment@ email address defined separately from the generic queue email
address.
2 Add the other group as Ticket AdminCC and then comment. This will result
in them seeing all the Ticket traffic which you may not want (or only
sometimes want).
3 Link tickets

I use all three of these depending on the situation
cheers
-
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* Hamburg Germany - March 14 & 15, 2016
* Washington DC - May 23 & 24, 2016

Re: [rt-users] Consulting back-office or other departments without notifying requestor

2016-02-23 Thread Parish, Brent
Agreed - we often use linked tickets here.

For example, I want the NetOps team to do something on the ticket so I create a 
child ticket and assign that to their queue.
(If there is a dependency, I create a DependsOn instead of Child).
This offers a secondary benefit of cleaning up reporting - who did what in what 
queue, how many tickets they worked, etc.


Alternatively, you can hit Reply in the web interface to add correspondence to 
the ticket.
Cc the other team (so far, this is exactly what you described originally)
BUT uncheck the original Requestor(s) from that specific Reply.
You can uncheck them at the bottom of the Reply page, under the Scrips and 
Recipients block.
Note:  If you go this route, the comment will be visible to them if the 
Requestor uses the SelfService interface to view ticket history.
Also, I believe you need the "ShowOutgoingEmail" permission (View exact 
outgoing email messages and their recipients, on the Rights For Staff tab in 
the Group Rights page for the Queue) to do this(?)


-  Brent


From: rt-users [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:55 PM
To: Lieven Bridts <lieven.bri...@puurs.be>; 'rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com' 
<rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com>
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Consulting back-office or other departments without 
notifying requestor

The simplest approach is probably to use Links. Under the Links section, you'll 
see a Create button that lets you easily create a linked ticket. You can have 
your internal conversation on the linked ticket and just reply back to the 
requestor when it's appropriate.
On 2/23/16 3:04 PM, Lieven Bridts wrote:
Hello group,

We're using RT for several years now and upgraded recently to RT 4.4
A lot of our tickets involve requests where the owner of the ticket needs to 
make some inquiries or put other departments at work.
e.g. As a response to a ticket a new user account has to be created and some 
actions like delivering devices (smartphone, laptop) or giving access to 
applications has to be done by other departments.

We could manually send out some answers or replies with the involved 
departments  in CC:
But, since these are not comments,  by default the requestor gets all the 
correspondence as well, e.g. when the department answers that the smartphone is 
ready to be picked up.
This is not what we want.

The situation above can be compared with the queue "Investigations" in RTIR 
where new tickets are created, linked to the original one, but without 
notifying the requestor(s)
Installing RTIR seems like overkill, since this has little or nothing to do 
with incidents.

What is the best practice to create a working solution for this problem?
Has anyone done this before? Are there some ready-made contributions that I can 
use?
My knowledge of Perl is rather limited, so I could create a scrip but this 
should mainly be based on copy-pasting and little adjustments of examples.

Much obliged,
Lieven














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Re: [rt-users] Consulting back-office or other departments without notifying requestor

2016-02-23 Thread Jim Brandt
The simplest approach is probably to use Links. Under the Links section, 
you'll see a Create button that lets you easily create a linked ticket. 
You can have your internal conversation on the linked ticket and just 
reply back to the requestor when it's appropriate.


On 2/23/16 3:04 PM, Lieven Bridts wrote:


Hello group,

We’re using RT for several years now and upgraded recently to RT 4.4

A lot of our tickets involve requests where the owner of the ticket 
needs to make some inquiries or put other departments at work.


e.g. As a response to a ticket a new user account has to be created 
and some actions like delivering devices (smartphone, laptop) or 
giving access to applications has to be done by other departments.


We could manually send out some answers or replies with the involved 
departments in CC:


But, since these are not comments,  by default the requestor gets all 
the correspondence as well, e.g. when the department answers that the 
smartphone is ready to be picked up.


This is not what we want.

The situation above can be compared with the queue “Investigations” in 
RTIR where new tickets are created, linked to the original one, but 
without notifying the requestor(s)


Installing RTIR seems like overkill, since this has little or nothing 
to do with incidents.


What is the best practice to create a working solution for this problem?

Has anyone done this before? Are there some ready-made contributions 
that I can use?


My knowledge of Perl is rather limited, so I could create a scrip but 
this should mainly be based on copy-pasting and little adjustments of 
examples.


Much obliged,

Lieven







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(http://bestpractical.com/services/training.html)
* Hamburg Germany - March 14 & 15, 2016
* Washington DC - May 23 & 24, 2016


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[rt-users] Consulting back-office or other departments without notifying requestor

2016-02-23 Thread Lieven Bridts
Hello group,

We're using RT for several years now and upgraded recently to RT 4.4
A lot of our tickets involve requests where the owner of the ticket needs to 
make some inquiries or put other departments at work.
e.g. As a response to a ticket a new user account has to be created and some 
actions like delivering devices (smartphone, laptop) or giving access to 
applications has to be done by other departments.

We could manually send out some answers or replies with the involved 
departments  in CC:
But, since these are not comments,  by default the requestor gets all the 
correspondence as well, e.g. when the department answers that the smartphone is 
ready to be picked up.
This is not what we want.

The situation above can be compared with the queue "Investigations" in RTIR 
where new tickets are created, linked to the original one, but without 
notifying the requestor(s)
Installing RTIR seems like overkill, since this has little or nothing to do 
with incidents.

What is the best practice to create a working solution for this problem?
Has anyone done this before? Are there some ready-made contributions that I can 
use?
My knowledge of Perl is rather limited, so I could create a scrip but this 
should mainly be based on copy-pasting and little adjustments of examples.

Much obliged,
Lieven










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