Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

2010-11-24 Thread Vivian Lee
I changed to Unicode(UTF-8) and that seems to do the trick. Thanks!

Vivian 

-Original Message-
From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com 
[mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of sunnavy
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:19 PM
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

Hi vivian

the charset of the email from outlook is set to "gb2312", which only contains
simplified chinese characters, if you want to use traditional chinese too,
you need to set the outgoing charset to "utf8" or at least "gbk" in outlook.

best wishes
sunnavy

On 10-11-23 12:37, Vivian Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I work with Brian at Trident Microsystems.  The followings are the examples 
> of our issues.  Hopefully, with the screen shots you would be able to see the 
> issues more clearly and could point us to the right direction to solve this 
> issue.   Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> These are the Chinese characters sent from Outlook email to RT:
> 
> 
> 
> 法新社倫敦11日電) 交易商說,在供應吃緊、需求預期會增加的帶動下,世界原油價格今天逼近每桶90美元。這是世界油價兩年多來首度逼近這個價位。
> 
> 倫敦北海布侖特原油12月交割價一度攀上每桶89.70美元,為兩年來最高價位,並是2008年10月以來首度逼近90美元關卡。
> 
> 這項期貨後來回跌至89.47美元,但仍較昨天收盤價上漲51美分。
> 
> 
> 
> This is how they are displayed in RT:
> 
> 
> 
> [cid:image001.png@01CB8B0A.6B836C60]
> 
> 
> 
> As you can see some Chinese characters are shown in boxes and special 
> characters.  We have done some testing and it seems that Simplified Chinese 
> characters are ok.  Only the Traditional Chinese characters are having issues.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> 
> 
> Vivian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Thompson
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:53 AM
> To: Jesse Vincent
> Cc: Vick Khera; RT Users
> Subject: RE: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a list of Chinese Traditional fonts that work with RT available so 
> that we can make sure we're using one that works?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!,
> 
> 
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> From: Jesse Vincent [mailto:je...@bestpractical.com]
> 
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:47 AM
> 
> To: Brian Thompson
> 
> Cc: Vick Khera; RT Users
> 
> Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:45:15AM -0800, Brian Thompson wrote:
> 
> > Thank you for the confirmation.  Follow-up question if you know:  How might 
> > an organization ensure that users of Chinese Traditional characters always 
> > use a font that works with RT?
> 
> 
> 
> That's a platform-dependent question. It might be that you need to install 
> the relevant language support for your platform. I recall this being an issue 
> on some installs of Windows XP.
> 
> 





Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

2010-11-23 Thread sunnavy
Hi vivian

the charset of the email from outlook is set to "gb2312", which only contains
simplified chinese characters, if you want to use traditional chinese too,
you need to set the outgoing charset to "utf8" or at least "gbk" in outlook.

best wishes
sunnavy

On 10-11-23 12:37, Vivian Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I work with Brian at Trident Microsystems.  The followings are the examples 
> of our issues.  Hopefully, with the screen shots you would be able to see the 
> issues more clearly and could point us to the right direction to solve this 
> issue.   Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> These are the Chinese characters sent from Outlook email to RT:
> 
> 
> 
> 法新社倫敦11日電) 交易商說,在供應吃緊、需求預期會增加的帶動下,世界原油價格今天逼近每桶90美元。這是世界油價兩年多來首度逼近這個價位。
> 
> 倫敦北海布侖特原油12月交割價一度攀上每桶89.70美元,為兩年來最高價位,並是2008年10月以來首度逼近90美元關卡。
> 
> 這項期貨後來回跌至89.47美元,但仍較昨天收盤價上漲51美分。
> 
> 
> 
> This is how they are displayed in RT:
> 
> 
> 
> [cid:image001.png@01CB8B0A.6B836C60]
> 
> 
> 
> As you can see some Chinese characters are shown in boxes and special 
> characters.  We have done some testing and it seems that Simplified Chinese 
> characters are ok.  Only the Traditional Chinese characters are having issues.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> 
> 
> Vivian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Brian Thompson
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:53 AM
> To: Jesse Vincent
> Cc: Vick Khera; RT Users
> Subject: RE: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a list of Chinese Traditional fonts that work with RT available so 
> that we can make sure we're using one that works?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!,
> 
> 
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> From: Jesse Vincent [mailto:je...@bestpractical.com]
> 
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:47 AM
> 
> To: Brian Thompson
> 
> Cc: Vick Khera; RT Users
> 
> Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:45:15AM -0800, Brian Thompson wrote:
> 
> > Thank you for the confirmation.  Follow-up question if you know:  How might 
> > an organization ensure that users of Chinese Traditional characters always 
> > use a font that works with RT?
> 
> 
> 
> That's a platform-dependent question. It might be that you need to install 
> the relevant language support for your platform. I recall this being an issue 
> on some installs of Windows XP.
> 
> 




Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

2010-11-23 Thread Jesse Vincent

It sure looks like a bug - probably related to the encoding it's being sent in.

http://issues.bestpractical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=16079&user=guest&pass=guest

I've dropped it into the bug tracker.

Best,
Jesse


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:37:19PM -0800, Vivian Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I work with Brian at Trident Microsystems.  The followings are the examples 
> of our issues.  Hopefully, with the screen shots you would be able to see the 
> issues more clearly and could point us to the right direction to solve this 
> issue.   Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> These are the Chinese characters sent from Outlook email to RT:
> 
> 
> 
> 法新社倫敦11日電) 交易商說,在供應吃緊、需求預期會增加的帶動下,世界原油價格今天逼近每桶90美元。這是世界油價兩年多來首度逼近這個價位。
> 
> 倫敦北海布侖特原油12月交割價一度攀上每桶89.70美元,為兩年來最高價位,並是2008年10月以來首度逼近90美元關卡。
> 
> 這項期貨後來回跌至89.47美元,但仍較昨天收盤價上漲51美分。
> 
> 
> 
> This is how they are displayed in RT:
> 
> 
> 
> [cid:image001.png@01CB8B0A.6B836C60]
> 
> 
> 
> As you can see some Chinese characters are shown in boxes and special 
> characters.  We have done some testing and it seems that Simplified Chinese 
> characters are ok.  Only the Traditional Chinese characters are having issues.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> 
> 
> Vivian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Brian Thompson
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:53 AM
> To: Jesse Vincent
> Cc: Vick Khera; RT Users
> Subject: RE: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a list of Chinese Traditional fonts that work with RT available so 
> that we can make sure we're using one that works?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!,
> 
> 
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> From: Jesse Vincent [mailto:je...@bestpractical.com]
> 
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:47 AM
> 
> To: Brian Thompson
> 
> Cc: Vick Khera; RT Users
> 
> Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:45:15AM -0800, Brian Thompson wrote:
> 
> > Thank you for the confirmation.  Follow-up question if you know:  How might 
> > an organization ensure that users of Chinese Traditional characters always 
> > use a font that works with RT?
> 
> 
> 
> That's a platform-dependent question. It might be that you need to install 
> the relevant language support for your platform. I recall this being an issue 
> on some installs of Windows XP.
> 
> 



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Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

2010-11-23 Thread Vick Khera

On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Vivian Lee wrote:

> I work with Brian at Trident Microsystems.  The followings are the examples 
> of our issues.  Hopefully, with the screen shots you would be able to see the 
> issues more clearly and could point us to the right direction to solve this 
> issue.   Thanks.
> 

the list of characters you sent in this email all showed on my mac mail reader 
(I did not feed them into RT).  i'd recommend finding out what font outlook is 
using, and arrange for RT to use that font as well, as it has the glyphs you 
want to show.



Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

2010-11-19 Thread Brian Thompson
Is there a list of Chinese Traditional fonts that work with RT available so 
that we can make sure we're using one that works?

Thanks!,

Brian


-Original Message-
From: Jesse Vincent [mailto:je...@bestpractical.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:47 AM
To: Brian Thompson
Cc: Vick Khera; RT Users
Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?




On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:45:15AM -0800, Brian Thompson wrote:
> Thank you for the confirmation.  Follow-up question if you know:  How might 
> an organization ensure that users of Chinese Traditional characters always 
> use a font that works with RT?

That's a platform-dependent question. It might be that you need to install the 
relevant language support for your platform. I recall this being an issue on 
some installs of Windows XP.



Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

2010-11-19 Thread Jesse Vincent



On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:45:15AM -0800, Brian Thompson wrote:
> Thank you for the confirmation.  Follow-up question if you know:  How might 
> an organization ensure that users of Chinese Traditional characters always 
> use a font that works with RT?

That's a platform-dependent question. It might be that you need to install the 
relevant language support for your platform. I recall this being an issue on 
some installs of Windows XP.


Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

2010-11-19 Thread Brian Thompson
Thank you for the confirmation.  Follow-up question if you know:  How might an 
organization ensure that users of Chinese Traditional characters always use a 
font that works with RT?


-Original Message-
From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com 
[mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Vick Khera
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:24 AM
To: RT Users
Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

On Nov 19, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Brian Thompson wrote:

> What do you mean by "using fonts without traditional glyphs in them"?  What 
> we're seeing are square boxes in place of some of the characters.  Would that 
> be a symptom of the font issue?  Can you please point us to an example of a 

That's the normal symptom of a font not having the glyph for the specified 
character.




Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

2010-11-19 Thread Vick Khera
On Nov 19, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Brian Thompson wrote:

> What do you mean by "using fonts without traditional glyphs in them"?  What 
> we're seeing are square boxes in place of some of the characters.  Would that 
> be a symptom of the font issue?  Can you please point us to an example of a 

That's the normal symptom of a font not having the glyph for the specified 
character.



Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

2010-11-19 Thread Brian Thompson
Jesse,

What do you mean by "using fonts without traditional glyphs in them"?  What 
we're seeing are square boxes in place of some of the characters.  Would that 
be a symptom of the font issue?  Can you please point us to an example of a 
Traditional Chinese font that *should* work with RT so we can test?  Is the 
test suite available to the public or just Best Practical customers?

Thank you!,

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Jesse Vincent [mailto:je...@bestpractical.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:10 PM
To: Brian Thompson
Cc: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?




On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 02:48:40PM -0800, Brian Thompson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We're running RT 3.8.8 and find that some "Traditional Chinese" characters 
> are not being displayed correctly (Simplified Chinese are okay).  Has anyone 
> had this experience and been able to overcome?

RT should be working just fine with Traditional Chinese.  Heck, I believe there 
are specific tests for it in our test suite.  The most typical failure mode I 
can think of would be "using fonts without traditional glyphs in them"

-Jesse

> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Brian

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Re: [rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

2010-11-18 Thread Jesse Vincent



On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 02:48:40PM -0800, Brian Thompson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We're running RT 3.8.8 and find that some "Traditional Chinese" characters 
> are not being displayed correctly (Simplified Chinese are okay).  Has anyone 
> had this experience and been able to overcome?

RT should be working just fine with Traditional Chinese.  Heck, I believe there 
are specific tests for it in our test suite.  The most typical failure mode I 
can think of would be "using fonts without traditional glyphs in them"

-Jesse

> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Brian

-- 


[rt-users] RT & Chinese Characters?

2010-11-18 Thread Brian Thompson
Hi,

We're running RT 3.8.8 and find that some "Traditional Chinese" characters are 
not being displayed correctly (Simplified Chinese are okay).  Has anyone had 
this experience and been able to overcome?

Thank you,

Brian