Re: [rt-users] Take and Change Owner Permissions

2010-09-21 Thread Jason Ledford
Thanks for your additional glance over my permissions.  They were indeed 
redundant permissions.  We are going to let anyone in the company create a work 
order and the only way I could get it to work properly was giving some of those 
permissions to everyone.  We also have some custom fields that I parse on the 
incoming email, so everyone needed to be able to modify some of those.  I 
didn't grant the showoutgoingemail because I honestly didn't know what it did, 
and thought it would be easier to add it later instead of taking it away if 
needed.  As for deleting, its currently just admins.

Thanks again for the help.

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[mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Crocker
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:37 PM
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Take and Change Owner Permissions

Jason,

A few questions; You allow "Everyone", not just Privileged or certain roles or 
specific User groups, the right to modify a custom field value in a ticket? 
Curious. Also, if you have granted "CreateTicket" to everyone, why did you 
grant it again to that group? They already have it as "Everyone". Same applies 
to "ReplyToTicket", "SeeQueue", and "ShowTicket". These can be dropped from the 
group. Redundant Privileges make for more difficult maintenance and a tougher 
time debugging "Rights" problems.
I also noticed you didn't grant "SeeOutgoingEmail" to anyone. I would think 
that at least the group might want to see what Email is coming and going. Who 
is allowed to delete a ticket? The owner?

Just a few thoughts.

Kenn
LBNL
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Jason Ledford 
mailto:jledf...@biltmore.com>> wrote:
I am having a problem with take and change owner permissions.  I have a user 
group that only has the following permissions on a specific queue:

CommentOnTicket
CreateTicket
ForwardMessage
ModifyTicket
OwnTicket
ReplyToTicket
SeeCustomField
SeeQueue
ShowTicket
ShowTicketComments

and everyone has the following on the same queue
CreateTicket
ModifyCustomField
ReplyToTicket
SeeQueue
ShowTicket

There are no other group or global rights appied that would affect this user.  
If they are looking at unowned tickets on their RT at a glance, they have a 
link for Take, even though they don't have the Take Ticket right.  They can 
also go into the Jumbo view of a ticket and change the owner.  Am I 
misunderstanding this right?  If I am, how do I keep users from taking unowned 
tickets?  We are trying to set it up so there is a queue manager who sorts and 
assigns and don't want everyone to be able to just take tickets.

TIA for any help.






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Re: [rt-users] Take and Change Owner Permissions

2010-09-21 Thread Kenneth Crocker
Jason,

A few questions; You allow "Everyone", not just Privileged or certain roles
or specific User groups, the right to modify a custom field value in a
ticket? Curious. Also, if you have granted "CreateTicket" to everyone, why
did you grant it again to that group? They already have it as "Everyone".
Same applies to "ReplyToTicket", "SeeQueue", and "ShowTicket". These can be
dropped from the group. Redundant Privileges make for more difficult
maintenance and a tougher time debugging "Rights" problems.
I also noticed you didn't grant "SeeOutgoingEmail" to anyone. I would think
that at least the group might want to see what Email is coming and going.
Who is allowed to delete a ticket? The owner?

Just a few thoughts.

Kenn
LBNL

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Jason Ledford wrote:

>  I am having a problem with take and change owner permissions.  I have a
> user group that only has the following permissions on a specific queue:
>
> CommentOnTicket
>  CreateTicket
>  ForwardMessage
>  ModifyTicket
>  OwnTicket
>  ReplyToTicket
>  SeeCustomField
>  SeeQueue
>  ShowTicket
>  ShowTicketComments
>
> and everyone has the following on the same queue
>  CreateTicket
>  ModifyCustomField
>  ReplyToTicket
>  SeeQueue
>  ShowTicket
>
> There are no other group or global rights appied that would affect this
> user.  If they are looking at unowned tickets on their RT at a glance, they
> have a link for Take, even though they don’t have the Take Ticket right.
> They can also go into the Jumbo view of a ticket and change the owner.  Am I
> misunderstanding this right?  If I am, how do I keep users from taking
> unowned tickets?  We are trying to set it up so there is a queue manager who
> sorts and assigns and don’t want everyone to be able to just take tickets.
>
> TIA for any help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [rt-users] Take and Change Owner Permissions

2010-09-21 Thread Jason Ledford
Changing the modifyticket to owner instead of my group did it.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Falcone
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:23 PM
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Take and Change Owner Permissions

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 01:17:49PM -0400, Jason Ledford wrote:
>I am having a problem with take and change owner permissions.  I have a 
> user group that only
>has the following permissions on a specific queue:
> 
>CommentOnTicket
>CreateTicket
>ForwardMessage
>ModifyTicket
>OwnTicket
>ReplyToTicket
>SeeCustomField
>SeeQueue
>ShowTicket
>ShowTicketComments
> 
>and everyone has the following on the same queue
>CreateTicket
>ModifyCustomField
>ReplyToTicket
>SeeQueue
>ShowTicket
> 
>There are no other group or global rights appied that would affect this 
> user.  If they are
>looking at unowned tickets on their RT at a glance, they have a link for 
> Take, even though
>they don't have the Take Ticket right.  

If you look at that search, it has a Take column added in.  If they didn't have 
the Take right, the link would fail (you can see it from Advanced when editing 
the search).

>They can also go into the Jumbo view of a ticket and
>change the owner.  

You gave them ModifyTicket, so they can modify the Owner.

You may just want to give Owners ModifyTicket instead

-kevin

>Am I misunderstanding this right?  If I am, how do I keep users from taking
>unowned tickets?  We are trying to set it up so there is a queue manager 
> who sorts and assigns
>and don't want everyone to be able to just take tickets.
>TIA for any help.
> 
> 
> 
> 

> 
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Re: [rt-users] Take and Change Owner Permissions

2010-09-21 Thread Kevin Falcone
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 01:17:49PM -0400, Jason Ledford wrote:
>I am having a problem with take and change owner permissions.  I have a 
> user group that only
>has the following permissions on a specific queue:
> 
>CommentOnTicket
>CreateTicket
>ForwardMessage
>ModifyTicket
>OwnTicket
>ReplyToTicket
>SeeCustomField
>SeeQueue
>ShowTicket
>ShowTicketComments
> 
>and everyone has the following on the same queue
>CreateTicket
>ModifyCustomField
>ReplyToTicket
>SeeQueue
>ShowTicket
> 
>There are no other group or global rights appied that would affect this 
> user.  If they are
>looking at unowned tickets on their RT at a glance, they have a link for 
> Take, even though
>they don't have the Take Ticket right.  

If you look at that search, it has a Take column added in.  If they
didn't have the Take right, the link would fail (you can see it from
Advanced when editing the search).

>They can also go into the Jumbo view of a ticket and
>change the owner.  

You gave them ModifyTicket, so they can modify the Owner.

You may just want to give Owners ModifyTicket instead

-kevin

>Am I misunderstanding this right?  If I am, how do I keep users from taking
>unowned tickets?  We are trying to set it up so there is a queue manager 
> who sorts and assigns
>and don't want everyone to be able to just take tickets.
>TIA for any help.
> 
> 
> 
> 

> 
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[rt-users] Take and Change Owner Permissions

2010-09-21 Thread Jason Ledford
I am having a problem with take and change owner permissions.  I have a user 
group that only has the following permissions on a specific queue:

CommentOnTicket
 CreateTicket
 ForwardMessage
 ModifyTicket
 OwnTicket
 ReplyToTicket
 SeeCustomField
 SeeQueue
 ShowTicket
 ShowTicketComments

and everyone has the following on the same queue
 CreateTicket
 ModifyCustomField
 ReplyToTicket
 SeeQueue
 ShowTicket

There are no other group or global rights appied that would affect this user.  
If they are looking at unowned tickets on their RT at a glance, they have a 
link for Take, even though they don't have the Take Ticket right.  They can 
also go into the Jumbo view of a ticket and change the owner.  Am I 
misunderstanding this right?  If I am, how do I keep users from taking unowned 
tickets?  We are trying to set it up so there is a queue manager who sorts and 
assigns and don't want everyone to be able to just take tickets.

TIA for any help.





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