Re: [rt-users] What's new with RT 3.8

2008-06-06 Thread Kenneth Crocker
Jesse,


That's great news! I've finally convinced ALL my managers that RT is 
WAY better than anything out there and now am planning to convert 
another (very large) system over to RT. I just pulled 3.6.6 over but I 
think I will wait for 3.8. It definitely sounds worth waiting for. 
Thanks again for a great product and thanks to the team for all the hard 
work.

Kenn
LBNL

On 6/5/2008 7:18 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
 So, this is mostly a short note to acknowledge the hard work of Emmanuel 
 Lacour along with Ruslan, sunnavy, Shawn Moore, Alex Vandiver and Kevin 
 Falcone.
 
 Over the past few weeks, we've (they've) been hard at work to get RT 3.8 
 ready for release. As part of that work, they've been going through the 
 RT3 bug list. You can check it out by visiting http://rt3.fsck.com, Log 
 in as guest with the password guest.  It's running a snapshot of RT 3.8 
 from earlier today.
 
 There are currently 354 open tickets related to RT3. That includes bugs, 
 feature requests, and the odd test ticket.
 
 What's absolutely amazing is how many FEWER tickets there are than there 
 were 3 weeks ago.
 
 Since May 15, these guys have resolved 289 tickets in the RT3 queue. 
 There have also been 267 commits to RT 3.8.
 
 We're definitely into the home stretch.
 
 But mostly, I just wanted to brag about how hard these guys are working :)
 
 Best,
 Jesse
 
 
 
 
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Re: [rt-users] What's new with RT 3.8

2008-06-06 Thread Stephen Turner
A few quick thoughts:

- The layout is a big improvement on the default 3.5/3.6.

- You might want to run it through IE, there are a few minor 
alignment issues (IE 7). Looks fine in Firefox 2.0  Opera 9.27.

- It would be nice to have visual cues for links - on the ticket page 
in particular, it's not obvious what's a link and what's just text, 
unless you move the cursor over.

All in all, it looks nice.

Steve

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Re: [rt-users] What's new with RT 3.8

2008-06-06 Thread Jesse Vincent


On Jun 6, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Stephen Turner wrote:


A few quick thoughts:

- The layout is a big improvement on the default 3.5/3.6.


Thanks!

- You might want to run it through IE, there are a few minor  
alignment issues (IE 7). Looks fine in Firefox 2.0  Opera 9.27.


We've done some IE tweaking. (And it feels head and shoulders above  
where we were for 3.6). But patches to improve things on IE would be  
hugely welcome. It's not a primary platform for anyone here, which  
means we need to go and explicitly prod at it to find layout bugs. And  
that's not always relaible.


- It would be nice to have visual cues for links - on the ticket  
page in particular, it's not obvious what's a link and what's just  
text, unless you move the cursor over.


Checked in a first pass at that mere moments before I saw your mail ;)


All in all, it looks nice.

Steve





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Re: [rt-users] What's new with RT 3.8

2008-06-06 Thread Aaron D. Ball
As Stephen said:  the UI is a significant improvement aesthetically.

A few suggestions:

* Text size shouldn't vary between columns with similar contents. 
Actually, this seems to be a bug:  the id column in 10 highest priority 
tickets I own is actually showing Status.

* There is some optical vibration (see Tufte) between alternating lines 
in the tables.  Please consider reducing the contrast between the 
background colors or removing the grid lines.

* Links are currently indicated with bold text, which does not work well 
when densely packed.  Maybe just color them blue?

* The reminders need some additional visual sugar to look like 
structured information rather than stray text, but I can't immediately 
tell you what.

Thanks for all your hard work on RT, and I'm looking forward to the next 
release.

--Aaron.
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Re: [rt-users] What's new with RT 3.8

2008-06-06 Thread Jesse Vincent



On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 03:22:26PM -0400, Aaron D. Ball wrote:
 As Stephen said:  the UI is a significant improvement aesthetically.
 
 A few suggestions:
 
 * Text size shouldn't vary between columns with similar contents. 
 Actually, this seems to be a bug:  the id column in 10 highest priority 
 tickets I own is actually showing Status.

Actually, no. That's some dork messing with guest's configuration.
*sigh* I'll go reset it.

 
 * There is some optical vibration (see Tufte) between alternating lines 
 in the tables.  Please consider reducing the contrast between the 
 background colors or removing the grid lines.

I've played with this some but didn't find anything that was actually
easy to scan for wide tables.

 
 * Links are currently indicated with bold text, which does not work well 
 when densely packed.  Maybe just color them blue?

Tried it. Along with many other things that looked awful. What we have at 
the moment feels like a reasonable compromise. Is there anywhere in
particular you find particularly hard to read?


 * The reminders need some additional visual sugar to look like 
 structured information rather than stray text, but I can't immediately 
 tell you what.

Indeed they do. This is one I'd love patches for.

Thanks! The feedback is appreciated.

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Re: [rt-users] What's new with RT 3.8

2008-06-05 Thread chaim . rieger
Next time you show up in souther cal let me know, will get ya a cup of coffee. 

Thanx much for the great product.


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Subject: [rt-users] What's new with RT 3.8


So, this is mostly a short note to acknowledge the hard work of  
Emmanuel Lacour along with Ruslan, sunnavy, Shawn Moore, Alex Vandiver  
and Kevin Falcone.

Over the past few weeks, we've (they've) been hard at work to get RT  
3.8 ready for release. As part of that work, they've been going  
through the RT3 bug list. You can check it out by visiting http://rt3.fsck.com 
, Log in as guest with the password guest.  It's running a snapshot of  
RT 3.8 from earlier today.

There are currently 354 open tickets related to RT3. That includes  
bugs, feature requests, and the odd test ticket.

What's absolutely amazing is how many FEWER tickets there are than  
there were 3 weeks ago.

Since May 15, these guys have resolved 289 tickets in the RT3 queue.  
There have also been 267 commits to RT 3.8.

We're definitely into the home stretch.

But mostly, I just wanted to brag about how hard these guys are  
working :)

Best,
Jesse

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