Re: [RollTideFan] Well That SUCKS!!

[Jeff Todd]

I never would've guessed that!

One thing's for certain, at least one of us don't know 
what the hell we're talking about. Personally, I'd love 
to be wrong!

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Mc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Well That SUCKS!!


 Just head over to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives. Jason 
 has done an excellent job of impersonating a sunshine 
 pumping, Kool-Aid funneling Shulacrat. :)

 Rick



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[RollTideFan] FORE MOWER YEERS!

[Jeff Todd]

http://www.bangedup.com/naked_famous/GWdrunkatweddingyeow.mov 



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Re: [RollTideFan] Oh my..

[Jeff Todd]

I'm just waiting to see if Javvy admits to being the 
author. :)

Slef E.

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 C'mon Joe, Slef  Watts...this is easy pickins for 
 ya.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Mc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Direct and to the point, that person has excellent 
 communication skills. :)

 Ruck

 kurtrasmussen wrote:
 http://www.fuckthesouth.com/

 kurt





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Re: [RollTideFan] Yellow Dog Democrat....

[Jeff Todd]

May more democrats protest in a similar manner.

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'RollTideFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Yellow Dog Democrat


 Man commits suicide at Ground Zero
 25-year-old reportedly distraught over President 
 Bush's re-election
 The Associated Press
 Updated: 8:43 a.m. ET Nov. 7, 2004

 NEW YORK - A 25-year-old from Georgia who was 
 apparently distraught over
 President Bush's re-election shot and killed himself 
 at Ground Zero.
 Andrew Veal's body was found Saturday morning inside 
 the off-limits site,
 said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority 
 of New York and New
 Jersey. A shotgun was found nearby, but no suicide 
 note was found, Coleman
 said.
 Newsday, citing a police source it did not identify, 
 reported Sunday that
 Veal opposed the war in Iraq and was apparently 
 distraught after the
 election.
 Friends said Veal worked in a computer lab at the 
 University of Georgia and
 was planning to marry.
 I'm absolutely sure it's a protest, Mary Anne 
 Mauney, Veal's supervisor at
 the lab, told The Daily News. I don't know what made 
 him commit suicide,
 but where he did it was symbolic.
 Police were investigating how Veal entered the former 
 World Trade Center
 site, which is protected by high fences and owned by 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Spurrier steps in?

[Jeff Todd]

Reckon Shula's going to hear 'momma callin'? :)

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
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Subject: [RollTideFan] Spurrier steps in?



 Dolphins' Wannstedt resigns after 1-8 start



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Re: [RollTideFan] Yellow Dog Democrat....

[Jeff Todd]

The same dumb asses that elected Hitlery. Not 
surprising.

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
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 Even stranger that it is in the heart of NYC which had 
 the highest of margins voting in favor of 
 Kerry.h

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 Ive been there.  An eerie sight.  I dont see how 
 anyone could go there and not vote for Bush and 
 re-commit themselves to being a better American!!

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Re: [RollTideFan] Yellow Dog Democrat....

[Jeff Todd]

Those are new dumb asses. :)

Slef E.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Yellow Dog Democrat


 Butt they live at the ground zero site which makes 
 anyone vote for bush?

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Nov 9, 2004 4:22 PM
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 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Yellow Dog Democrat

 The same dumb asses that elected Hitlery. Not
 surprising.

 Slef E.

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 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Yellow Dog Democrat


 Even stranger that it is in the heart of NYC which 
 had
 the highest of margins voting in favor of
 Kerry.h

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 Ive been there.  An eerie sight.  I dont see how
 anyone could go there and not vote for Bush and
 re-commit themselves to being a better American!!

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Re: [RollTideFan] Spurrier steps in?

[Jeff Todd]

He's already quit a front-office job with the Dolphins.

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I would not mind seeing Dan Marino step in as a QB 
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Re: [RollTideFan] My boss RLABOSD!

[Jeff Todd]

You gone let the kids take turns reading it to you?

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: kurtrasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: rtf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:32 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] My boss RLABOSD!


 I'm outta  here in a few days.  So my boss gives me a 
 gift...  Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer

 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0609607081/qid=1100056810/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-5788571-8231314?v=glances=booksn=507846

 Then I open  it up.  Got some of  the main players 
 autographs.  And then some!

 http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/176256/1305076RJYH.JPG

 He's gonna  get the author's sig in a week or so.

 He pretty much rules.

 Thanks Mark.

 ROLL TIDE! !!

 kurt

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Re: [RollTideFan] My boss RLABOSD!

[Jeff Todd]

I always node youse a good daddy!

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: kurtrasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] My boss RLABOSD!


 WHYHELLYA!   Hate like  hell to put it all on only one 
 of  them.

 kurt


 Jeff Todd wrote:

You gone let the kids take turns reading it to you?

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:32 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] My boss RLABOSD!



I'm outta  here in a few days.  So my boss gives me a 
gift...  Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0609607081/qid=1100056810/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-5788571-8231314?v=glances=booksn=507846

Then I open  it up.  Got some of  the main players 
autographs.  And then some!

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/176256/1305076RJYH.JPG

He's gonna  get the author's sig in a week or so.

He pretty much rules.

Thanks Mark.

ROLL TIDE! !!

kurt

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Re: [RollTideFan] FIRE URBAN MYER!

[Jeff Todd]

GOOD ANSWER!

JT
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] FIRE URBAN MYER!


 His present one?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Nov 6, 2004 11:33 PM
 To:
 RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics 
 Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] FIRE URBAN MYER!

 So, which job you reckon Shula had his mind on when he
 sent Brodie back in against Western Carolina? :)

 Slef E.

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 Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 11:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] FIRE URBAN MYER!


 These days you got to dress up the resume for that
 dream job at every opportunity.



 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Nov 6, 2004 11:19 PM
 To:
 RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
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 Subject: [RollTideFan] FIRE URBAN MYER!

 CUM (Coach Urban Myer), with his #6 Utah Utes leading
 42-10 at HALFTIME...trots his HEISMAN TROPHY
 CANDIDATE -
 STARTING QUARTERBACK, ALEX SMITH onto the field to
 begin
 the second half! Who has this clown been taking
 lessons
 from...MIKE FREAKIN' SHULA??!!

 Slef E.



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Re: [RollTideFan] Prothro

[Jeff Todd]

Good grief, Krut! Don't you know it takes TIME to put in 
an extremely complicated play like the QB Keeper??!! :)

Roll Tide!!

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: kurtrasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 6:32 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Prothro


 ABOUT TIME!!
 kurt

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[RollTideFan] FIRE URBAN MYER!

[Jeff Todd]

CUM (Coach Urban Myer), with his #6 Utah Utes leading 
42-10 at HALFTIME...trots his HEISMAN TROPHY CANDIDATE - 
STARTING QUARTERBACK, ALEX SMITH onto the field to begin 
the second half! Who has this clown been taking lessons 
from...MIKE FREAKIN' SHULA??!!

Slef E.



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Re: [RollTideFan] FIRE URBAN MYER!

[Jeff Todd]

So, which job you reckon Shula had his mind on when he 
sent Brodie back in against Western Carolina? :)

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] FIRE URBAN MYER!


 These days you got to dress up the resume for that 
 dream job at every opportunity.



 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Nov 6, 2004 11:19 PM
 To:
 RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics 
 Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [RollTideFan] FIRE URBAN MYER!

 CUM (Coach Urban Myer), with his #6 Utah Utes leading
 42-10 at HALFTIME...trots his HEISMAN TROPHY 
 CANDIDATE -
 STARTING QUARTERBACK, ALEX SMITH onto the field to 
 begin
 the second half! Who has this clown been taking 
 lessons
 from...MIKE FREAKIN' SHULA??!!

 Slef E.



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[RollTideFan] CECIL HURT: Learning a lesson from premature celebrations

[Jeff Todd]

November 06, 2004

At the risk of offending any Republicans who aren't 
feeling magnanimous after last Tuesday's landslide, it's 
not time for the Alabama football team to drop that 
banner just yet.

Yes, the Crimson Tide has reached the six-win plateau. 
Yes, the Tide will get a nice bowl trip to Atlanta or 
Nashville or Shreveport. Yes, it helps recruiting. Yes, 
it's good for a team to get the added practice time that 
comes with postseason eligibility.

But the real mission of this Alabama football team 
should be more than beating the six most beatable teams 
on its schedule. No, that's not a criticism. It's 
certainly not a failure to recognize all the adversity 
that Alabama's team has overcome to reach this point. 
But there are still two regular-season chances at huge 
wins -- one against an old rival that's coming off a 
national championship, and a second against an even 
bigger rival that's bidding for a national championship 
of its own. That's where this team can really make its 
mark in history in blazing letters.

Mike Shula says the same thing.

In the understandable excitement about earning a bowl 
trip -- the first for all except the grizzled veterans 
on this team -- Shula got an ice-water bath.

In the coach's estimation, it was premature.

The water on the back is nice, Shula said. But we 
want to save that for when we win the big one.

That comment doesn't mean that Shula was slighting 
Mississippi State. He spent a good part of his postgame 
news conference praising MSU coach Sylvester Croom, and 
it wasn't just lip service.

Croom brought in a Mississippi State team that could 
easily have collapsed after some ignominious early 
losses, and had them playing tough football. For all the 
outside issues that had accompanied this game, it really 
boiled down to the same thing that lots of 
Alabama-Mississippi State football games have boiled 
down to, long before either Shula or Croom were ever 
hired. It was a hard-hitting, old-fashioned game -- not 
mistake-free -- that was finally settled because Alabama 
had more players and more playmakers (even in its 
current state of attrition).

It wasn't a case where someone outcoached the guy on 
the other sideline. Both coaches did just fine, and both 
programs should feel comfortable with the man they have.

Alabama should feel comfortable -- but not content.

We've got to put it aside right away, Shula said when 
asked again about bowl eligibility. We've still got a 
lot of work to do. First, we've got to get healthy. 
We've got to have a long discussion about what we're 
going to do in practice this week, because we are beat 
up. Then we've got to get focused on playing the 
defending national champion (LSU) at their place. And 
we've got to play better than we did tonight.

Alabama did improve in some areas on Saturday night. It 
was the best game yet for Spencer Pennington at 
quarterback -- not enough to make anyone forget Namath 
or Stabler, but at least enough to make LSU and Auburn 
aware that he can throw the ball. Brian Bostick made 
some big pressure-packed kicks, although Brandon Brooks' 
fumble on a punt return makes it hard to say that 
special teams were improved. It wasn't the defense's 
best game, but that's only because the Tide defense has 
set a lofty standard for itself this season.

And all that might be good enough, given the 
circumstances surrounding this season. It might be good 
enough that Alabama has established a no-nonsense 
attitude, and earned more respect than it had at the 
beginning of the year. But there is a chance to do 
more -- a lot more.

It might be a slim chance. LSU and Auburn are as good as 
any teams Alabama has played this year. Only Tennessee 
would be comparable. Against the Vols, Alabama was able 
to make it close, but not to win, and winning is what 
counts. So the Crimson Tide can't pause to take a deep 
breath. It can't simply start dreaming of a bowl game. 
The toughest two-game stretch of the schedule is ahead.

The Tide shouldn't say Mission Accomplished, without 
seeing if it can go beyond anything it has done to this 
point.

Cecil Hurt is sports editor of The Tuscaloosa News. 
Reach him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at (205) 
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[RollTideFan] Since Bush won...

[Jeff Todd]

Since George Whup Ass Bush won re-election, does that 
mean we won't hear from Jobu for FOUR MORE YEARS?!?!?!

Slef E.



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Re: [RollTideFan] MSU: Bama Hired Wrong Coach

[Jeff Todd]

EXCELLENT POINT!

Slef E.

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I think Croom will be a good coach at MSU, but I think 
UF was ripe for the
 picking. They better be glad they didn't play Vandy 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Since Bush won...

[Jeff Todd]

damb

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I bees write hear hunies..



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Re: [RollTideFan] Since Bush won...

[Jeff Todd]

I wouldn't mind seeing some restrictions placed on 
speech in this country. Fsckers like Michael Moore 
wouldn't last a day. :)

Slef E.

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 Probably depends upon how much longer Free Speech 
 lasts lasts in our country. Of course, with Ashcroft 
 leaving there may be some breathing room...until he 
 becomes the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.  ;-)

 HTH

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 Since George Whup Ass Bush won re-election, does 
 that
 mean we won't hear from Jobu for FOUR MORE YEARS?!?!?!

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Re: [RollTideFan] Since Bush won...

[Jeff Todd]

Maybe Michael Moore and George Soros will commit 
suicide.

Slef E.

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 I wouldn't mind seeing some restrictions placed on
 speech in this country. Fsckers like Michael Moore
 wouldn't last a day. :)

 Slef E.

 That Al Qaeda swallowing faggot shut down his 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Since Bush won...

[Jeff Todd]

I know you're playing dumn, but:

http://www.georgesoros.com/

Slef E.

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 Man I hope not. George Soros can make a good movie. 
 That Star Wars series
 was great

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 Maybe Michael Moore and George Soros will commit
 suicide.

 Slef E.

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 I wouldn't mind seeing some restrictions placed on
 speech in this country. Fsckers like Michael Moore
 wouldn't last a day. :)

 Slef E.

 That Al Qaeda swallowing faggot shut down his
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Re: [RollTideFan] The good news just keeps coming!

[Jeff Todd]

The hell of it is, no one but the people Amendment 5 
pertained to had any business voting on it!

Slef E.

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 BTW, THANK YOU great Bama fans for helping defeat 
 Amendment 5!



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Re: [RollTideFan] The good news just keeps coming!

[Jeff Todd]

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:09 AM
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coming!


 Not true. The proposed tax increas crossed county 
 lines therefore it
 is a state issue, not a local issue.

It didn't cross every county line in the state. Like I 
said, only the people it pertained to should have been 
voting on the proposal. What business do I, living in 
Etowah County, have voting on a proposal that affects 
you and Phyllis? There were several other proposals on 
the ballot that didn't affect me, yet they were on my 
ballot.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Before The Clock Strikes Midnight

[Jeff Todd]

Happy Birthday, Old Man!

Slef E.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:13 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Before The Clock Strikes Midnight


 Happy Birthday to me
 Today I turned forty
 no wait

 Happy Birthday to you
 Today I turned forty
 no that's not itoh yeah

 Happy Birthdays are fun
 Today I turned fortyone

 ===
  If you believe in yourself, have dedication and 
 pride, and never quit,
 You will always be a winner.
 The price of victory is high, but so are the 
 rewards. -- Paul W. Bryant

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Re: [RollTideFan] Amendment 5

[Jeff Todd]

Javvy's afraid Trussville will annex Roebuck and double 
the price of his mobile home decal.

HTH

Slef E.

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Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Amendment 5


 Hexplane..

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 Please vote NO









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[RollTideFan] HuGe turnout

[Jeff Todd]

At the New Union Volunteer Fire Department, today. The
machine indicated I was the 380th voter as of 2:00 p.m.
The most I've ever seen was 411 very near closing time.
I waited until the rain started pouring down to go vote.
Good strategy as there was no line. Only drawback was
the KFC crumbs stuck to my ballot. I'm not kidding about
that. Got a good laugh at the expense of the geriatric
poll workers brigade. I walked in and handed Me-Maw my
water bill. (I just love being different!) She asked me
what it was and what did I want her to do with it. I
told her the man on television told me to take my water
bill to my polling place, present it, and the DNC would
pay my bill AND let me vote! Me-Maw just smiled and
said: Well...that'll be OK. Then she handed me a ticket
with the #2 scribbled on it. I handed the ticket to next
Me-Maw who asked me HOW was I going to sign my name. I
told her: with that pen in yore hand. I signed and
stepped down to Pa-Paw who handed me the ballot
splattered with Extra Crispy crumbs and dried chicken
skin. Voted straight Republican and NO on 6-of-9
amendments. Stuck my ballot in the machine and took an I
VOTED sticker and placed it above my heart as I walked
out the door. I'm proud to be an American.

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[RollTideFan] Deere Liberal, pinko commie, fags

[Jeff Todd]

UP YORE BUTT WITH A COCONUT!

FORE MOWER YEERS!

   - then -

 JEB 'O8!



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Re: [RollTideFan] Loose Cannon?

[Jeff Todd]

I ain't heered a word.

VO, you know anything about LC's whereabouts?

Slef E.

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   Did we ever figger out where the hell he is?

 kurt


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Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?

[Jeff Todd]

That was when he had a decent position coach.

HTH

Slef E.

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:48 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?


 It wasn't that long ago that Spencer looked strong at 
 the QB position.



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Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?

[Jeff Todd]

I believe Rick said during an A-Day game. And he didn't 
say anything about 'mighty quarterbacking prowess'. Did 
you just throw that in to see if anyone's paying 
attention?

Slef E.

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:48 PM
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 Maybe I'm missing something...please fill me in on the 
 games in which
 Spencer looked strong at QB.

 Once I recall the times he demonstrated his 
 once-mighty quarterbacking
 prowess, then maybe I can understand how he is now the 
 victim of poor
 coaching.




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 That was when he had a decent position coach.

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  It wasn't that long ago that Spencer looked strong 
  at
  the QB position.


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Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?

[Jeff Todd]

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?


 It's called hyperbole...sarcasm to make a point. I'll 
 point it out from now
 on.

Gee, thanks!

 Spencer, to my recollection, has never been a very 
 good QB.

No, but he's been accused of having potential by more 
than one coaching staff.

 He was a
 baseball player at Fayette

He also played football...QB, I do believe. And he's 
also the son of a coach, if I'm not mistaken. That's 
normally a pretty good foundation for becoming a decent 
college QB. At least one that you don't have to worry 
about costing you game, after game, after game. What is 
this, Pennington's 4th year at BAMA? You'd think he'd 
gotten enough coaching by this point to be a dependable 
QB. NOT!

 He was tutored at that time by the brilliant (sarcasm) 
 Les
 Koenning, who is famous for molding great passers 
 Andrew Zow and Tyler Watts

Who, oh by the way, managed to win SEVENTEEN FUCKING 
GAMES in TWO SEASONS!

 (sarcasm.)  He may have looked good in some 
 scrimmages. Hell, he probably
 looks good in practice at times also. But that's 
 slightly different
 (sarcasm) from making great throws against Tennessee 
 et al.

I could've sat here for days and never figured that out! 
Thanks for the insight, dude.

 So now we're complaining that he has in the past 
 looked strong, but now he
 sucks because his position coach isn't decent, 
 laying aside the fact his
 HEAD coach was a QB coach in the NFL.

Jason, when Shula starts coaching QB's at BAMA, get back 
with me. In the meantime, as long as that nimrod Dave 
Rader is coaching QB's,  and coordinating the offense - 
WE ARE FUCKED!

 OR, it just might be (sarcasm) that he was THIRD 
 STRING for a reason going
 in to the 2004 season, and that he's just not a very 
 good quarterback.

Or, it might be because Shula flipped a fuckin' coin and 
it landed on Guilon.

 Maybe you'll get your way and we'll fire the architect 
 of the No. 1 defense
 in AMERICA

HA! HA! HA!  Are you talking about the same dickwad that 
last year said there was no point in blitzing Timmy 
Chang because he couldn't be sacked, even if he didn't 
have an offensive line?

Alabama hasn't played one single team worth a damn this 
season. And when they do, that defense you're bragging 
about will get their nuts handed to them.

 and fire Rader so we can find a decent position 
 coach who can
 turn Spencer back into the fine quarterback he once 
 was (sarcasm).

What the hell's come over you? It wasn't that long ago 
YOU YORESLEF were just as down on this coaching staff as 
anyone, including myslef. What is it about this 
glistening 5-3 record that's made such a believer out of 
you? Oh! Never mind. I forgot; it's that #1 defense 
that's got you whistling Yea Alabama!

 And as for your derisive comments directed toward our 
 head coach about the
 Prothro package,

Since when did the truth start getting under your skin 
so badly?

 you might be surprised by the end of the year, given 
 what
 I've heard this week.

I would hope so, considering that Shula will probably 
have a month to get ready for a bowl game.

No, I won't be a damn bit surprised. It'll be too late, 
which will be par for the course.

JT





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[Jeff Todd]

http://tailgate411.com/

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Re: [RollTideFan] WHOA--

[Jeff Todd]

Does that say CMS  Co., refuse to deviate from their
game plan regardless of the situation?

Slef E.


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:28 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] WHOA--



 This is an interesting tid-bit..

 -- STAT OF THE WEEK: Under coach Mike Shula, Alabama
has an 0-8 record
 when trailing at halftime and a 9-4 mark when leading
at the break.


http://www.al.com/alabama/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/sports/1098955067277880.xml


 ROLL TIDE!!
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Re: [RollTideFan] He shouldan't tried this

[Jeff Todd]

And STOOPID! Don't forget STOOPID!

Look at the bright side. If he wins, at least we won't
have to spend the next four years watching that
buck-toothed bitch, Hitlery Clinton campaign for the
office of POTUS! That in itslef is almost reason enough
to vote for the faggit.

Slef E.

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 Quoting kurtrasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2u=/041031/480/ohgh10210311506e=8ncid=1756
 
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 Man, he looks so gay.



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Re: [RollTideFan] UTEP in the top 25 AP poll..

[Jeff Todd]

Want me to see if I can find all you Mike Price lovers a
UTEP mail list?

Slef E.

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 Purty da good for a drunk.

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Re: [RollTideFan] WHOA--

[Jeff Todd]

- Original Message - 
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 Maybe it's due to the lack of a couple of true
playmakers on the
 squad.

Tyronne Prothro says WHAZZUP!

Keith Brown says YO!

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Re: [RollTideFan] WHOA--

[Jeff Todd]

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 HEY T  K, why ain't y'all getting to touch the
fscking ball more
 then!!?? I'm just saying if y'all are truly the
playmakers everyone
 makes y'all two out to be, then why ain't y'all seeing
mo action!? I
 mean really, man, why?

Don't axe us, bro. Axe that damn pretty boy white
coarch!

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Re: [RollTideFan] Mississippi State / UK

[Jeff Todd]

r u drunked

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Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:43 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Mississippi State / UK


 Final from Starkpatch:

 Dawgs: 7
 Kats:  22

 MSU blew it open in the final 6:00 minutes, scoring a
safety and a long
 touchdown run. The game ended with MSU on the UK goal
line.

UK  MSU
 Points 7  22
 1st Downs 17  20
 Total Yards  272  414
 Passing  166  77
 Rushing  106  337
 Penalties4/35 7/55
 3rd Down Conversions 3-15 4-12
 Turnovers   1 3


 ROLL TIDE!!
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Re: [RollTideFan] Mississippi State / UK

[Jeff Todd]

Are you as bored as I am?

Slef E.

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 Maybe I should be... still on the wagon. :)



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Re: [RollTideFan] Mississippi State / UK

[Jeff Todd]

Looks like Phat Phil Harrison is spoofing Krut!

Slef E.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Mississippi State / UK

[Jeff Todd]

I used to always look forward to the end of Daylight
Savings Time. It was one night I got an extra hour to
guzzle breers!!

I'd be lying if I said I don't think about it more than
a little bit. Today I was in Sam's and saw  mucho cases
of Rolling Rock. It put me in a momentary trance. I
could smell it, taste it, feel the cold bottle in my
hand! I could've stood there and drank the whole
case...HOT! Or, so I thought. Then the sensations
started all over again. I could smell it on my breath,
taste it when I woke up, see the empties piled up in the
garbage can, felt the sting of stepping on a cap I'd
dropped in the floor (or did I bounce it off a wall?),
feel the unbearable pulsations in my head as I searched
to see if I'd left one sitting around anywhere that
might ease the pain. Then I came back to reality and
went looking for the prune juice.

Slef E.

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 Probably. But to be very honest, I don't think about
the drink that much
 any more and I certainly don't miss it. I've come to
the conclusion I
 can live the rest of my life just fine without it.

 Rick

 Jeff Todd wrote:
  Are you as bored as I am?
 
  Slef E.
 
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 Maybe I should be... still on the wagon. :)
 
 
 
 
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[RollTideFan] Meckasun joke

[Jeff Todd]

There are two Mexicans who have been lost in the desert for
weeks and they're at death's door. As they stumble on, hoping
for salvation in the form of an oasis or something similar,
they suddenly spy, through the heat haze, a tree off in the
distance.
As they get closer they can see that the tree is draped with
rasher upon rasher of bacon. There's smoked bacon, crispy
bacon, life giving juicy nearly- raw bacon, all sorts.
Hey, Pepe says the first bloke Ees a bacon tree! We're
saved!
You're right, amigo! says Pepe. So Pepe goes on ahead and
runs up to the tree salivating at the prospect of food. But
as he gets to within five feet of the tree, there's the sound
of machine gun fire, and he is shot down in a hail of bullets.
His friend quickly drops down on the sand and calls across to
the dying Pepe.
Pepe! Pepe! Que pasa, hombre?
With his dying breath Pepe calls out, Ugh, run, amigo, run!
Ees not a Bacon Tree! Ees a... Ees a...
Yes, Pepe? Ees a what..?
Ees... a... ham bush.
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Re: [RollTideFan] This is fsked up...

[Jeff Todd]

Devan Orange wrote:
Wouldn't you rather be in Florida?
Only if HuGe lived in Oklahoma.
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Re: [RollTideFan] Zook Fired.

[Jeff Todd]

Losing to THE FIRST BLACK FOOTBALL COACH IN THE SEC will
do that to you.

Slef E.

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 Wowthey didn't waste any time did they.  Then
again, losing to
 Mississippi State will do that for you.

 hoggfather

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 ESPN.com news services
 The Florida Gators have fired third-year football
coach Ron Zook and his
 staff, ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit reported Monday.



 Ron Zook and the Gators fell to 4-3 on Saturday.


 Athletic director Jeremy Foley will meet with members
of the team this
 afternoon and then announce that Zook and his staff
will coach the team for
 the remainder of the season, Herbstreit reported.


 The firing comes on the heels of the Gators' 38-31
loss Saturday to
 Mississippi State, the worst team in the SEC.


 The Gators are 4-3 this season, 20-13 overall under
Zook.


 His teams haven't had the swagger of those under his
predecessor Steve
 Spurrier, who lost only six home games in 12 years and
won a national
 championship.


 When asked about his future Sunday, Zook focused on
next Saturday.


 I just have to worry about this next game right now,
Zook said. That's
 all I have any control over.


 Information from The Associated Press was used in this
report


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Re: [RollTideFan] Zook Fired.

[Jeff Todd]

Bama will whip the shit out of MSU, regardless of how
much you and you're ass-pla Hughfus would like to see
the Tide lose.

Roll Tide!!

Slef E.

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 Although I think the MSU win was a fluke, brings up an
interesting topic.

 Bama fans, in general, know that we have a lot of
injuries that may be
 keeping us from winning some games. And we are having
to play above our
 heads also. But what does the typical fan think if,
for some insane reason,
 MSU comes in here and beats Bama in two weeks?

 A loss to UT, Auburn and even LSU is some-what
understandable. But a loss to
 MSU won't be easily explained away as simply lack of
depth or injury
 related. We've been banking on the MSU game as our
ticket to a low-tier
 bowl. With MSU's win over FLA, as flukey as it was,
the possibility of them
 having the will-to-win against Bama is more prevalent
now than it was two
 weeks ago. The Bama-MSU game wwas going to be
emotional for MSU anyway, but
 this win (and MAYBE a win over UK) will give them
enough confidence to just
 walk into T-Town and walk out with a win.

 As they walk out, so may our bowl hopes. Unless we can
pull out a win
 against LSU (a maybe at best) or Auburn (I hope our
bowl chances don't come
 down to this game).

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 Losing to THE FIRST BLACK FOOTBALL COACH IN THE SEC
will
 do that to you.

 Slef E.

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  Wowthey didn't waste any time did they.  Then
 again, losing to
  Mississippi State will do that for you.
 
  hoggfather
 
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  Nationally Competitive - Student Centered -Research
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  Subject: [RollTideFan] Zook Fired.
 
  ESPN.com news services
  The Florida Gators have fired third-year football
 coach Ron Zook and his
  staff, ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit reported Monday.
 
 
 
  Ron Zook and the Gators fell to 4-3 on Saturday.
 
 
  Athletic director Jeremy Foley will meet with
members
 of the team this
  afternoon and then announce that Zook and his staff
 will coach the team for
  the remainder of the season, Herbstreit reported.
 
 
  The firing comes on the heels of the Gators' 38-31
 loss Saturday to
  Mississippi State, the worst team in the SEC.
 
 
  The Gators are 4-3 this season, 20-13 overall under
 Zook.
 
 
  His teams haven't had the swagger of those under his
 predecessor Steve
  Spurrier, who lost only six home games in 12 years
and
 won a national
  championship.
 
 
  When asked about his future Sunday, Zook focused on
 next Saturday.
 
 
  I just have to worry about this next game right
now,
 Zook said. That's
  all I have any control over.
 
 
  Information from The Associated Press was used in
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[RollTideFan] No 6th year for Brodeenie

[Jeff Todd]

Posted by DBTide on October 25, 2004 at 12:12:49:

There will be no sixth of eligibility for quarterback
Brodie Croyle.
Alabama does not plan to apply for the medical hardship
waiver because he does not meet the NCAA's requirements
for an additional year, UA Associate Athletic Director
for Compliance Chris King said.

Croyle redshirted in 2001 and played three games this
season before suffering a season-ending injury. He will
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[RollTideFan] Deere CES

[Jeff Todd]

What's up with this:

http://fireronzook.com/

Y'all done blowed it up?

Slef E.



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Re: [RollTideFan] checking off

[Jeff Todd]

Arkansas has the same number of scholarship players as
we do. If that means anything.

Slef E.

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 I feel the pain right along with ya my friend. But a
big dose of reality
 is the fact we're playing on an uneven field with
every team we face.
 It'll be the 2006 season before we're finally on level
playing ground
 again, then watch out folks, the Tide WILL BE BACK for
sure and for
 good. That is if we can keep folks like LY from
*completely* ruining the
 program forever.

 Roll Tide Forever!!
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Re: [RollTideFan] checking off

[Jeff Todd]

excuses

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 But Arkansas has also had a much more stable
atmosphere over the past few
 years
 ===
  If you believe in yourself, have dedication and
pride, and never quit,
 You will always be a winner.
 The price of victory is high, but so are the
rewards. -- Paul W. Bryant
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  Arkansas has the same number of scholarship players
as
  we do. If that means anything.
 
  Slef E.
 
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   I feel the pain right along with ya my friend. But
a
  big dose of reality
   is the fact we're playing on an uneven field with
  every team we face.
   It'll be the 2006 season before we're finally on
level
  playing ground
   again, then watch out folks, the Tide WILL BE BACK
for
  sure and for
   good. That is if we can keep folks like LY from
  *completely* ruining the
   program forever.
  
   Roll Tide Forever!!
   Rick
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [RollTideFan] checking off

[Jeff Todd]

Arkansas got some little bullshit penalty, but nothing
like we got. If I had to guess, they came up short due
to signing too many JUCO's.

So what's the difference if both teams have 74 players
on scholarship? Other than the obvious - quarterback
situation.

Slef E.

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  So, was Arkansas docked 21 schollys or did a bunch of
crappy players that
 did have the cojones to play college ball leave?

 There is a difference.




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Re: [RollTideFan] checking off

[Jeff Todd]

What's wrong with blaming CMS?

Franholio had it going on, no doubt about it. Some have
criticized his recruiting while at Bama, but under the
circumstances I can't imagine anyone else doing a better
job. With all the uncertainty facing the program during
his tenure, about all we could hope for was not to lose
any legacy recruits. I can't imagine a Keith Brown, or
D.J. Hall signing with Bama if they'd come along 3-4
years earlier.

But I just think all that uncertainty provided Franholio
with a convenient excuse for leaving. I don't think he
would have stayed with us much, if any longer regardless
of the circumstances at Bama. Certainly not long enough
to return Bama to domination.

Slef E.

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 Man, I'm looking for a silver lining wherever I can
find one. I realize
 it's a lame excuse but it's the best I can come up
with without placing
 the blame squarely at CMS's feet. On another note, and
I know there's
 some that don't want to talk about this, but imagine
if Fran had stayed
 the course and held the rope. That 2002 season wasn't
a fluke. I truly
 believe we were in position to dominate the league the
way we did during
 the 70's. Call me crazy, but that's what I saw at the
time.

 Rick

 Jeff Todd wrote:

 Arkansas has the same number of scholarship players
as
 we do. If that means anything.
 
 Slef E.
 
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 Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] checking off
 
 
 
 
 I feel the pain right along with ya my friend. But a
 
 
 big dose of reality
 
 
 is the fact we're playing on an uneven field with
 
 
 every team we face.
 
 
 It'll be the 2006 season before we're finally on
level
 
 
 playing ground
 
 
 again, then watch out folks, the Tide WILL BE BACK
for
 
 
 sure and for
 
 
 good. That is if we can keep folks like LY from
 
 
 *completely* ruining the
 
 
 program forever.
 
 Roll Tide Forever!!
 Rick
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Deere CES

[Jeff Todd]

DAMN! That sounds familiar. :-(

Slef E.

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 Well he's a nice guy and sure can recruit but he can't
coach a lick.

 Charlie

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 What's up with this:

 http://fireronzook.com/

 Y'all done blowed it up?

 Slef E.



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Re: [RollTideFan] checking off

[Jeff Todd]

Rick,

In a perfect world, your scenario is dead on. Couldn't
agree more.

Slef E.


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 I don't disagree with this theory, but all I was
saying is just imagine
 if he had stayed for say 15 years and was happy and
content to close out
 his career at ALABAMA. Bama would have dominated. How
many times have we
 gone into places like Auburn and Knoxville and blew
away those two teams
 like we did while he was here (throw in LSU as well).
That gave all of
 us hope that Bama truly was on it's way back to the
place it used to be.
 Nothing over the past 21 games has given us hope that
that will happen
 any time soon. That is extremely frustrating. Yes
everyone says be
 patient, but Fran showed us what could be done and he
did pretty quickly.

 Rick



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Re: [RollTideFan] Over The Hump

[Jeff Todd]

We'll never win one of these games with the coaching
staff we've got. I still despise Joe Kines, but I'd be
happy if Shula would just fire Rader and hire a real
offensive coordinator and give him full control of the
offense. In other words, Shula's fucking play calling
doesn't impress me a gotdamn bit. He needs to stop
calling plays like the national championship is on the
line, and start calling plays like a bowl invitation is
at stake. Someone needs to give Shula a fucking clue,
cause he damn sure ain't got one.

Slef E.

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Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 6:16 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Over The Hump


 Bama Fans, one day, I don't know when, but one day
Bama is going to win
 one of these close games in the 4th qtr and then
things will turn around
 for them. Until that happens they will struggle with
confidence problems.

 I can't help but wonder why the offense doesn't try to
run outside more.
 Every running play seems to be geared toward running
inside. With
 Darby's speed and his ability to make guys miss, I
wish they'd run the
 toss sweep or do something to try to get the ball
outside the ends.

 Damn, I'm hurting, I hate losing to Tennessee so much.

 Roll Tide Roll!!!
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[RollTideFan] Who did he sound like?

[Jeff Todd]

Sly Croom: We had some leave...I told the others if
they stayed and worked hard things like this would
happen. When asked what he thought about the direction
his program was headed, Sly replied: We're right on
schedule.

Way to be, Coach Croom!

Slef E.



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Re: [RollTideFan] On a brighter note...

[Jeff Todd]

God help us all!

Is it just me, or was Keith Brown:
WIDE.FUCKIN'.OPEN?

Slef E.

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 Even with Pennington at QB...



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Re: [RollTideFan] Rocky Top

[Jeff Todd]

Hell, any idjut should have known you were talking about
the fucking UT game. It's a sad gotdamn day when YOU
have to spell out every little detail. :)

Slef E.

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 I assumed, albeit incorrectly, that it was obvious
when I said the game 
 tomorrow.


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  Well you didn't limit it to just AL-TN
games...wimmin...everbody is a
 mindreader...
 
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  Well, since Jay is the one that said it on the
radio, we'll assume that he
  is lying  you know more than he does about the
number of BAMA-tn games
 that
  he has attended.
 
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  Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Rocky Top
 
 
   I just know in my heart that Jay Barker has been
at an Alabama game,
  whether as a player or spectator, where Alabama lost
the gamealbeit, I
  refuse to spend time looking for the info.
  
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   I'm sure I will regret this, but what the hell are
you talking about?
  
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Well that can't be true...
   
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Jay Barker said he was going to the game  we've
never lost when he
 has
played or been in attendance.  Since Jay's
pretty tight with God, I'm
feeling pretty confident about tomorrow.
   
ROLL DAMN TIDE !!
   
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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Rocky Top
   
   
 Nicely done, Devonna. Very nice! Lord knows
how I hate Tennessee,
 I'm
pulling out all stops this year trying to work
the magic mojo for the
   Tide!
Just win BAMA! Just win BABY!! DAMMITT JUST WIN
THE FREAKING FOOTBALL
   GAME!!

 Give me my bottle of JD, I'm ready for the
party to start!!

 ROL TID
ROL!
 Rick

 
  From: Devonna Snuggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  bleck!
 
  I hope you were singing a different version
of RT such as, Rocky
  Top
you'll
  never be Home Sweet Home to Me!  Poor old
Rock Top!  Woo! GO TO
 HELL
  TENNESSEE!!!
 
  - Original Message -
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   Been whistling that heehaw song all day.
Hoping it brings us
 good
   luck
  tomorrow.
  
   Roll Damn Tide Roll!!!
   Rick
 
 
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Eye H8 UT.

[Jeff Todd]

Well, now we're getting some postage!

One post bitching about not getting any postage.

One post agreeing with the bitching.

Now comes my post telling y'all to quit your bitching
and post something worthwhile. I would do it myslef, but
I don't give a damn anymore.

Roll Tide!!

Slef E.

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 Thursday, October 21, 2004, 6:35:46 PM, Joe Goodson
wrote:

 Joe I think the guys are too busy yucking it up on
Barner vs Bammer to talk on
 Joe RTF.  We used to have lots of posts every day.


 Yep. It's sad when Bama fans would rather associate
with Barners than
 their own kind.


 Joe I miss getting the quality
 Joe postings on RTF.


 Me too...






















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Re: [RollTideFan] btw

[Jeff Todd]

You and VO are gone be nabers! Give him your phone
number as soon as you get set up so y'all can get
together.

Slef E.

PS

Is there a deposit on breer canes in Indiana?


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  Any RTF members live in Indiana?  Looks like Iyam
gonna be in a couple three weeks. Just wondering if
anyone's interested in splitting a 12-pack one morning.

 kurt


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Re: [RollTideFan] Eye H8 UT.

[Jeff Todd]

Go for it.

Slef E.

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 Ya'll want me to do like Wilhem and post every article
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Re: [RollTideFan] Eye H8 UT.

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That ain't what I was talking about.

Slef E.

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 Come on Slef.  I know you will always care about
everything Crimson.
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Re: [RollTideFan] Eye H8 UT.

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I think he was just referring to the Bama articles.

Slef E.

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 Lord no!  I waste more time deleting those things than
I do reading them.  I
 only read the Bama ones once in a while.
 Joe
 We have the sweetest, finest bunch of kids in the
world, and I love
 every one of them, but they're not tough enough. If we
don't get some
 sure-enough, way-down-deep meanness, we're not going
to beat anybody. -
 Alabama legend Bear Bryant.

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  Ya'll want me to do like Wilhem and post every
article on the net
 
 
  I think the guys are too busy yucking it up on
Barner vs Bammer to talk
  on
  RTF.  We used to have lots of posts every day.  I
miss getting the
  quality
  postings on RTF.
  Joe
  Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too
long, has been concerned
  with right or left instead of right or wrong.
  Richard Armour
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  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:24 AM
  Subject: [RollTideFan] Eye H8 UT.
 
 
   Dayum.
  
   This place is so quiet. I'm not hearing ANY talk
about the game. None.
   What
   gives? Are the Bama fans so afraid to say much or
are they simply
  'quietly
   confident'? This is, in my opinion, the biggest
game for us in the past
   two
   years. This is UT week right? Where are all the
jokes about hillbillies
   and
   toothless married cousins? Is this the calm
before the storm? Is anyone
   really expecting us to do well or are we hoping
that it won't be a
   slaughter? Will the talk Monday be about how
classless Phil was to run
  the
   score up? Will this game revive the talk about
how Shula is still in
   training? Will we be happy with a 'moral
victory'? Will this be the
   signature win that Shula needs to secure his
standings with the Bama
   Nation?
   Are all eyes on Misery State as our 6th win or
are we focusing on UT as
   our
   6th win?
  
   In my office is a Bama calendar. This month's
picture is Running
  through
   the T. It can be done. Will it?
  
  
  
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Re: [RollTideFan] My good deed(s)

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 1. You need a job.

Why?

 2. Your kids need to be in school.

I agree! But I don't set the school calendar.
Who came up with this FALL BREAK shit
anyway?

 3. That was dayum funny.

WORD!

 4. Git any cool Christmas gift ideas?

None that would interest you. We didn't
go to any flea markets.

Slef E.



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Re: [RollTideFan] I wish CMS wouldn't curse.

[Jeff Todd]

It's always been my belief that some people just need
the fuck slapped out of them occasionally. Say what  you
will, but physical violence is the only language some
people comprehend. I know it always worked wonders with
me!

As for CMS's motivational skills, I have to wonder if
that isn't yet another aspect of the job he's learning
on the fly. The reason I say that is I'm just not sure
how much motivation he was responsible for in the
positions he held in the NFL. He'd probably be surprised
at the results he'd get from just going ape-shit fuckin'
crazy every now and then. Damn all this buddy-buddy
shit. Any time you hear the term player's coach used,
it's bad news. John Hannah said the players from his era
played as hard as they did simply because they were
SCARED of Coach Bryant. Shula needs to put the fear of
God in coaches and players alike.

In other words...IAWTP!

Slef E.


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 If CMS would grab a facemask and act angry at someone
after a bad play or blatant penalty incurred, he'd have
a much easier near future at the helm.  He is too young
(makes me feel netter to say that)  to emulate his daddy
on the sideline and plus, as we found out with Stallings
(or rather Stallings found out) motivating pro players
is vastly different than motivating college boys.




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Re: [RollTideFan] Joe Kines

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Kerry,

Should I tell the barner idiots you sent me?

FIRE JOE KINES!

Slef E.

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Subject: [RollTideFan] Joe Kines


 Alabama is now on track to lead the SEC and be one of
the nations top

 defenses...Do you still think Joe Kines should be
fired?? If you do...you

 need to take a seat with the auburn idiots who wanted
tubby gone last year.



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Re: [RollTideFan] I wish CMS wouldn't curse.

[Jeff Todd]

It means you probably tried to copy those homos at
barneyfagsforever.

HTH

Slef E.

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Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] I wish CMS wouldn't curse.


 kurt:  I tried to respond to your post and received
from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 net the following:

 The message content type was not explicitly allowed.
Can you tell me what
 might be the problem?



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 (someone had to say it. :)



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Re: [RollTideFan] Don't forget

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Don't go getting all religious on me, bitch.

Slef E.

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 Quoting Jeff Todd at 01:11 14-10-04:
 RollTideFan turns 4 years old tomorrow!

 And it still ain't potty trained

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Re: [RollTideFan] Don't forget

[Jeff Todd]

That reminds me...anyone got a link to an anonymous
remailer? I need to send some old pla's a few
Trick-or-Treat emules.

Slef E.

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 From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  RollTideFan turns 4 years old tomorrow!

 HAPPY HALLOWEEN!
 ($1)



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Re: [RollTideFan] Slef found some pics..

[Jeff Todd]

Uh, I stole 'em from someone else on this list who will
remain anonymous, unless they desire name recognition.

Slef E.

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 I stole 'em from him and posted them on RTF.


http://rolltidefan.net/forum/ipb/index.php?showtopic=634

 WHAT ABOUT THEM VOLS!

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Re: [RollTideFan] Damn

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What the fuck are you talking about? Did you get
preached to on barneyfagsforever?

Slef E.

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 Why is it that some folks can say shit and fuck

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[RollTideFan] Don't forget

[Jeff Todd]

RollTideFan turns 4 years old tomorrow!

Roll Tide!

Slef E.



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Re: [RollTideFan] Deere Ron

[Jeff Todd]

Man, I wish we had a coach like that! Yes, I'm serious.

Slef E.

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 I heard an interview with Coach Croom yesterday.  He
was talking about what
 is and is not acceptable on the team (i.e., penalties,
turnovers, etc.).  He
 said that he flat out called several of his upper
class starters on the
 carpet and told them point blank what they were doing
or had done wrong.  He
 also said that after the UAB game he told the players
and coaches who all
 played or coached a perfect game to stand up.  He said
told them to Shut
 up Grow up and Get after it.  I really couldn't
believe he said that.
 (I can imagine that it happens but for him to be so
forthcoming about it is
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[RollTideFan] The Morrall of the story

[Jeff Todd]

Backup quarterbacks can win - just ask Tide coach's dad
Tuesday, October 12, 2004
By PAUL GATTIS
Times Sports Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maybe it's a Shula thing, something in the genes that
passed from father to son.

Before the Super Bowl became an overblown circus known
more for its wardrobe malfunction than the game itself,
there was Don Shula.

He was a sideline fixture in the days when the Super
Bowl was just a game and not a corporate festival. The
father of Alabama's football coach guided teams to four
of the first eight Super Bowls.

And a more subtle aspect of that legacy is that twice
Shula did it with backup quarterbacks.

I won a lot of games with backup quarterbacks, Shula
said Saturday while watching Alabama's 45-17 win over
Kentucky.

To which son Mike might ask, What's the secret?

That's because the Crimson Tide has used three starting
quarterbacks in six games this season in compiling a 4-2
record.

Brodie Croyle started the first three games before
tearing a knee ligament and being sidelined for the
season. Marc Guillon then stepped in and struggled
through two games before missing the Kentucky game with
a stiff back.

Third-string quarterback Spencer Pennington turned in an
admirable effort, according to offensive coordinator
Dave Rader, in the blowout victory over Kentucky.

But where is Earl Morrall when you really need him?

Morrall, now retired and living in Naples, Fla., was
Shula's backup quarterback with the Baltimore Colts in
1968. But he became the starter when Johnny Unitas went
down with an elbow injury in the final game of the
preseason.

That injury, in fact, caused nerve damage in Unitas' arm
and was once the subject of a cover story in Sports
Illustrated.

With Morrall at quarterback, the Colts went 13-1 and
marched into Super Bowl III as the NFL champions and the
overwhelming favorites to whip the AFL's New York Jets.
Of course, no one remembers Super Bowl III for Morrall.

That was another quarterback. The New York Jets' Joe
Namath - ironically, a former Alabama quarterback -
guaranteed a victory and then led a 16-7 win over the
Colts.

Morrall would get his Super Bowl ring with the Colts in
the 16-13 win over Dallas in Super Bowl V, again
stepping in when Unitas was forced from the game with
bruised ribs. But by then, Shula had already moved on to
coach the Miami Dolphins.

After that game, though, Shula engineered Morrall's
arrival in Miami.

He was a veteran quarterback who had been around and
played a lot, Shula said. He was brought in just for
that reason - as insurance. When I got to Miami and he
became available, I said to my owner that I wanted to
bring him in.

Yes, Shula wanted him, but Dolphins owner Joe Robbie
didn't. As Shula remembered more than 30 years later,
this is the conversation they had:

Why? You've got Bob Griese? Robbie said.

Just as insurance, Shula replied.

What's he making?

Well, he's making a lot of money - $90,000.

$90,000 for a backup?

Indeed, that insurance policy became a sweet safety net
for the Dolphins when Griese broke his ankle in the
fifth game of the 1972 season.

And Shula and Morrall were united again.

In NFL history, 1972 stands alone without explanation -
an acronym of sorts for perfection. Each season, until
all 32 teams lose a game, the '72 Dolphins are the
inevitable standard of comparison until their 17-0
record remains unmatched and largely unchallenged for
still another year.

Perfection, achieved with a backup quarterback.

Morrall completed 83-of-150 passes that season for 1,360
yards and 11 touchdowns - laughably modest numbers in
today's pass-happy game. But Morrall was named the AFC's
Player of the Year by The Sporting News.

Morrall wasn't a part of the ultimate win that season -
the 14-7 victory over Washington in Super Bowl VI -
because Shula chose to go back to a recovered Griese.
Morrall, according to a 2002 story in the Boston Globe,
was disappointed but understanding.

So is there a moral in this story for Mike Shula?

You've got to have them for a while and make sure that
you train them properly, his father said. And you've
got to give them some reps in practice.

That's the advantage father had over son. Morrall had
been in the NFL for 12 years before replacing Unitas in
1968. And in the undefeated season with the Dolphins,
Morrall was 38 years old.

That hardly compares to Guillon and Pennington, who had
one career start between them coming into this season.
And in that start, Pennington was forced from the game
in the third quarter with a separated shoulder.

There's no magic things I can tell him, Shula said.
I'll watch a game and we'll talk and go over
situations. Nobody knows me better than Mike and nobody
knows Mike better than me.

He's paying for sins of the past. When he gets his
fulfillment of scholarships and gets them coached,
that's when Mike should be judged.

It's the plight of a coach, to be defined by your
surroundings - be it the plays your players make or the
NCAA sanctions that came 

Re: [RollTideFan] Deere Ron

[Jeff Todd]

It is a whale node faq that players will assume the
personality of their coarch.

Dr. Slef E.

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 If the coach doesn't get fired up, don't expect the
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Re: [RollTideFan] Coach Mike Shula Press Conference

[Jeff Todd]

Don't you think Gilligan would go in?

Slef E.

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 JVWatts wrote:
 Spencer Pennington will start at
 quarterback.
 
 
  I may have missed it somewhere but, what happens if
pennington goes down
  Who steps in
 


 We're SOL baybee.

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[RollTideFan] Ray Hudson Has Successful Knee Surgery

[Jeff Todd]

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. - University of Alabama senior tailback
Ray Hudson had successful knee surgery Tuesday afternoon
at Health South Medical Center in Birmingham.

Ray came out of surgery late Tuesday afternoon, said
Crimson Tide head athletic trainer Rodney Brown.
Doctors Jim Andrews and Lyle Cain performed
arthroscopic surgery on his right knee to repair
cartilage damage and a small fracture of the leg bone at
the knee joint.

Hudson is expected to be on crutches from four to five
weeks.  He will begin the rehabilitation process
immediately.



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Re: [RollTideFan] Deere BamaJenny

[Jeff Todd]

Is that on the old Miracle Strip Amusement Park
property?

Slef E.

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Subject: [RollTideFan] Deere BamaJenny


 The new complex on the strip is going to be called
Grand Panama Resort.
 There will be a high-rise on the beach side  directly
across the beach will
 be 2 more sets of condos  then further back, there
will be 2 more sets of
 condos with courtyards complete with pools, water
fountains  water falls 
 lots  lots of retail shops.  I haven't been to PC in
quite a while, but
 it's amazing to me that there's that much space
available.  They must have
 cleared out a bunch of shit.  Phase One will be the
courtyard condos which
 are labeled residential.  I'm assuming these won't be
for tourists.



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Re: [RollTideFan] ACL

[Jeff Todd]

Ray is in x-ray right now. MRI showed multiple bone
fragments from the tibia lodged in cartilage behind the
patella causing pain and swelling. His ACL and MCL are
both intact!!! Surgery scheduled tomorrow w/ Dr.
Andrews. Return for this season is doubtful but not
completely out of the question.

Slef E.

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Subject: [RollTideFan] ACL


 When Brodeenie ($1) got hurt, reports of his season
ending injury were all over internet news sits that very
afternoon. As far as I've seen, all the reports on RH
use words like 'likely', 'possible', etc.

 I know that they were waiting for the team to get home
butt...   Any of y'all seen anything more definite?

 kurt









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Re: [RollTideFan] The barners in my office

[Jeff Todd]

WHOO!  PIGGIE! WHOO!

- Original Message - 
From: David Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics
Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] The barners in my office


 So are you guys gonna send some extra karma to Barner
land to help us out ?
 I wanna beat these clowns so bad I can taste it.

 David Edwards
 Tour Coordinator
 Office of Admissions
 232 Silas Hunt Hall
 Fayetteville  AR  72701
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The University of Arkansas
 Nationally Competitive - Student Centered -Research
University
 www.uark.edu



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Devonna Snuggs
 Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [RollTideFan] The barners in my office

 are ALREADY counting the Hogs as a win.  They are
already discussing who
 they will be playing on the SEC championship game -
TN!

 HELP ME!  I'm gonna kill 'em!


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Re: [RollTideFan] Deere Ron

[Jeff Todd]

Ha! Ha! Ha!

Jobu and Phat Phil Harrison are frat sisters!
BBWWHAHAHA! How fitting!

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Ron Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Deere Ron


 Just sit in the corner and be quiet Hughfus.  Someone
who couldn't even
 go to a real school for an engineering degree should
not throw stones.
 Oh wait. . .that's right UAH is the preeminent eng
school.  My bad!



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Re: [RollTideFan] Where's a gust of wind when you need one

[Jeff Todd]

Mighty nice of Bama to loan MSU a Bama Belle to pose
with the homecoming king.

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:32 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Where's a gust of wind when you
need one


 ($1)


http://www.ur.msstate.edu/news/photo/archive/10-11-2004.jpg

 kurt


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Re: [RollTideFan] Joe Kines

[Jeff Todd]

Kerry,

Joe Kines eats shit and Dave Rader chases bunny rabbits.

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Kerry Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 5:15 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Joe Kines


  How can he not be good when we lead the nation in
several defensive
 categories??  Its Rader that is the problem.  You can
stop a team when your
 defense has been on the field 99.9 percent of the
time, no matter who your
 defensive coordinator is.



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Re: [RollTideFan] YAY !! The So Miss QB is out !!

[Jeff Todd]

Heh! I remember when Brent Farve wasn't supposed to play
because of a damn near fatal car crash, and ruptured
spleen, too! :-(

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:17 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] YAY !! The So Miss QB is out !!


 The Joe Kines defense doesn't defend the QB, so we
need all the help we can
 get.

 Southern Miss QB out; Guillon could not start today

 From combined reports
 October 09, 2004

 HATTIESBURG, Miss. | Southern Miss coach Jeff Bower
said Friday that Dustin
 Almond, the Golden Eagles' starting quarterback, will
not play next Saturday
 at Alabama.

 Almond, a junior from Orange Park, Fla., suffered a
hamstring injury in the
 final seconds of regulation Thursday night on an
18-yard touchdown run that
 put Southern Miss' game against Houston into overtime.
Backup Damion Carter
 replaced Almond and led the Golden Eagles to a 35-29
overtime victory.

 Bower said that Almond's hamstring is strained, not
torn, but that he would
 be out from two to three weeks. He ruled out any
chance of the quarterback
 returning in time to play against the Crimson Tide
next weekend at
 Bryant-Denny Stadium, moving Carter into the starting
position.

 I don't know how long he'll be out, Bower said.
That's an individual
 thing. Some guys get better quicker than others. It
depends on how he
 responds.

 Southern Miss improved to 4-0 for the first time since
1981 with the win
 over Houston. The victory was the 500th in the history
of the USM program.



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Re: [RollTideFan] YAY !! The So Miss QB is out !!

[Jeff Todd]

Happens to the best of us. :-(

Slef E.

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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] YAY !! The So Miss QB is out
!!


 Oh my! A body slam! :) Take that Sleffie!

 Rick



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Re: [RollTideFan] YAY !! The So Miss QB is out !!

[Jeff Todd]

Yes, you're correct, Blobber.


Slef E.

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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] YAY !! The So Miss QB is out
!!


 Wasn't that Brett Favre, Hughfus?



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Re: [RollTideFan] YAY !! The So Miss QB is out !!

[Jeff Todd]

Only because I love you!

Slef E.

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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] YAY !! The So Miss QB is out
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 At least you didn't call me Jobu.



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Re: [RollTideFan] 14 gimme points

[Jeff Todd]

Yeah, but...Kentucky will say they were 'gimme's'. :-)

Slef E.

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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] 14 gimme points


 Plus, we *forced* the fumble and *blocked* the punt.
They didn't exactly
 give them to us.



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Re: [RollTideFan] The Joe Kines D...

[Jeff Todd]

It's all a figment of your imagination. Joe Kines ain't
shit. I hope he gets fired even if BAMA doesn't lose
another game.

Slef E.

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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:17 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] The Joe Kines D...



 ...is beginning to win me over.


 I should probably drink more until this feeling goes
away.



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Re: [RollTideFan] Alabama 45 Kentucky 17 8 minutes + to go

[Jeff Todd]

Another FUCKING Bama Fan!

Roll Tide and FUCK!

Slef E.

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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:27 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Alabama 45 Kentucky 17 8 minutes
+ to go


 Roll Fucking Tide!!



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Re: [RollTideFan] Big hUge gigantic win

[Jeff Todd]

It doesn't look real good, Shula said of Hudson knee.
It looks like another serious knee injury.



fuck



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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Big hUge gigantic win


 2. Our starting tailback likely played in his last
game.



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Re: [RollTideFan] QB hurt during practice

[Jeff Todd]

From Tighter Inside Her:

It ended up a pretty good practice. Marc [Guillon's]
back tightened up a little bit, so Spencer got a few
more reps. It [Guillon's back] was a little tight and we
didn't want to make it worse at this point. We'll see
how it is tomorrow. It was good for Spencer to get all
those reps. But we still anticipate Marc being the guy
[starter]. Keith Brown did not practice, so he probably
won't play. Simeon Castille, we still feel like he'll
play. A.J. Milwee and Adam Thrash will both make the
trip. 

HTH

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'BamaFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
'RollTideFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 8:15 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] QB hurt during practice


 A friend of mine said he heard on the radio this
morning that Marc hurt his
 back during practice yesterday and SP took the
majority of the snaps.
 Indications are that Marc will still play Saturday
though.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice

[Jeff Todd]

LMAO!

Slef E.

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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:58 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Hey Ron Rice


   What's the latest on the sanctions down in
Starksville?  I haven't seen any updates in quite a
while.  Personally, I'm kinda thinking they might make
y'all play in a bowl game.

 kurt



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Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Pat Smoot (non)

[Jeff Todd]

When all the beads were gone?

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:17 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Hey Pat Smoot (non)


 When did you get home from Talladega?
 Jenny



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Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Pat Smoot (non)

[Jeff Todd]

Did they demonstrate at 'Dega?

Slef E.

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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Pat Smoot (non)


 Ya'll check out this bullshit

 www.namrf.com



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Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Pat Smoot (non)

[Jeff Todd]

Seriously, I read somewhere (was it from you, Krut)
they sought a permit to demonstrate. To make a long
story short, the people who run the track and the law
talked them out of it. I believe they said they
couldn't guarantee their safety.

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Pat Smoot (non)


 Not that I saw or heard about. They could have, but
 I don't think so.
 Jenny



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Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Pat Smoot (non)

[Jeff Todd]

I thought it was a crock of shit!

Slef E.

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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey Pat Smoot (non)


 Hows about that 25 points and $10,000? I LMAO when I
saw him say it.

 ScR



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Re: [RollTideFan] Non

[Jeff Todd]

I'll bet the caption reads:

Have You Seen This Child?

Slef E.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Non


 I have 8x10 color glossies for sale..



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Re: [RollTideFan] Deere Sonja;

[Jeff Todd]

Jobu will start tailgating with you when your kids get a
little older, Javvy. Just don't leave them alone with
him.

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Deere Sonja;


 They may have. But I didn't get down to your tailgate
site to see.

  -Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On
 Behalf Of M Laborde
 Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:47 AM
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 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Deere Sonja;

 Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 7:37:47 AM, you wrote:

 JP One of these trucks passed by the tailgate area
Saturday.

 JP
http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/severe/cxt.asp






  Did Blobber  Phat Phil run out to the truck to get a
closer look?
















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Re: [RollTideFan] Deere Sonja;

[Jeff Todd]

If you weren't a slobbering alcoholic, I wouldn't have
to make your Mother's trailer payment.

Slef E.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Deere Sonja;


 Or you could leave them with Slef. Oh that's right, he
can't afford to miss
 a trailer payment and attend the games.



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