Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?
- Original Message - From: "Jason Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems? > Isn't "potential" another word for "hasn't done crap?" Only if you're totally clueless idiot. This is what I call potential: Spencer Pennington's high school career: * Led his team to the 4A championship game * 6,333 yards passing in three seasons * 41 touchdown passes in his Junior and Senior years combined If you can't see that as potential, you're as stupid as Phil Harbison. >> What is this, Pennington's 4th year at BAMA? You'd >> think he'd >> gotten enough coaching by this point to be a >> dependable >> QB. NOT! > > That's illogical. That sentence virtually MAKES the > point that the problem > is that he's just not very good, despite having three > different coaches. You're full of shit. See his high school numbers again if you don't believe me. The boy has potential. He just needs good coaching to help him achieve/realize that potential. >> Jason, when Shula starts coaching QB's at BAMA, get >> back >> with me. In the meantime, as long as that nimrod Dave >> Rader is coaching QB's, and coordinating the >> offense - >> WE ARE FUCKED! > Kind of like how we are with Kines, who is currently > trotting out the No. 1 > defense in America? The same clown that said Timmy Chang couldn't be sacked even if he didn't have an offensive line? Are we talking about the same guy, Jason? > It's Shula's offense, not Rader's, and Shula has > PLENTY > of input into coaching QB's. That doesn't make me feel any better. >> Or, it might be because Shula flipped a fuckin' coin >> and >> it landed on Guilon. > > Sure. Whatever. That sounds like something Huge would > throw out. Oh, that's rich! > So the presumptive SEC East champion Tennessee -- at > their place -- isn't > "worth a damn?" Wow. In case you missed it, we LOST that game. Don't tell me you've resorted to finding solace in the proverbial 'moral victory'! > But until your dire predictions of our defense's > demise > come true, we're the No. 1 defense in America. AH! A MORAL VICTORY! > Because I've seen this team make a lot of progress > this season, Jason, get over it. When Bama can play a complete season without QUITTING as they did in the South Carolina game this year, then we'll talk about progress. > and I think > the staff is doing a great job under the > circumstances. This is a job for Kool-Aid! OH, YEAH! For your sake, I hope Jim Jones didn't mix the Kool-Aid that left that moustache on your face. > If you recall, in > August I said I expected a 6-5 season and a minor bowl > game. That was BEFORE > we lost our starting QB, RB and FB for the SEASON. So, 6-5 with those injuries and you're all up in the Kool-Aid? > You're becoming the same type of fan Huge isbitch > first -- and often -- > cheer later. We've got FAR too many of those in our > "fan" base. I'm going to call it like I see it. If you don't like it, go sit in the corner with your daddy Phat Phil Harrison. > I'm out. You're welcome to the last (vulgar) word. Oh, now you're going to play the little Choir Boy card, huh? Well, since I have your permission...FUCK YOU. :) JT ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?
> No, but he's been accused of having potential by more > than one coaching staff. Isn't "potential" another word for "hasn't done crap?" > He also played football...QB, I do believe. And he's > also the son of a coach, if I'm not mistaken. Walden Tucker is the Fayette coach, father of Lance and Luke Tucker. He's not Spencer's dad. Unless you're referring to him playing for his dad in junior high or something. > What is this, Pennington's 4th year at BAMA? You'd think he'd > gotten enough coaching by this point to be a dependable > QB. NOT! That's illogical. That sentence virtually MAKES the point that the problem is that he's just not very good, despite having three different coaches. > Jason, when Shula starts coaching QB's at BAMA, get back > with me. In the meantime, as long as that nimrod Dave > Rader is coaching QB's, and coordinating the offense - > WE ARE FUCKED! Kind of like how we are with Kines, who is currently trotting out the No. 1 defense in America? It's Shula's offense, not Rader's, and Shula has PLENTY of input into coaching QB's. > Or, it might be because Shula flipped a fuckin' coin and > it landed on Guilon. Sure. Whatever. That sounds like something Huge would throw out. > Alabama hasn't played one single team worth a damn this > season. And when they do, that defense you're bragging > about will get their nuts handed to them. So the presumptive SEC East champion Tennessee -- at their place -- isn't "worth a damn?" Wow. But until your dire predictions of our defense's demise come true, we're the No. 1 defense in America. > What the hell's come over you? It wasn't that long ago > YOU YORESLEF were just as down on this coaching staff as > anyone, including myslef. Because I've seen this team make a lot of progress this season, and I think the staff is doing a great job under the circumstances. If you recall, in August I said I expected a 6-5 season and a minor bowl game. That was BEFORE we lost our starting QB, RB and FB for the SEASON. > I would hope so, considering that Shula will probably > have a month to get ready for a bowl game. It will come before the bowl game. > No, I won't be a damn bit surprised. It'll be too late, > which will be par for the course. You're becoming the same type of fan Huge isbitch first -- and often -- cheer later. We've got FAR too many of those in our "fan" base. I'm out. You're welcome to the last (vulgar) word. ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?
- Original Message - From: "Jason Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems? > It's called hyperbole...sarcasm to make a point. I'll > point it out from now > on. Gee, thanks! > Spencer, to my recollection, has never been a very > good QB. No, but he's been accused of having potential by more than one coaching staff. > He was a > baseball player at Fayette He also played football...QB, I do believe. And he's also the son of a coach, if I'm not mistaken. That's normally a pretty good foundation for becoming a decent college QB. At least one that you don't have to worry about costing you game, after game, after game. What is this, Pennington's 4th year at BAMA? You'd think he'd gotten enough coaching by this point to be a dependable QB. NOT! > He was tutored at that time by the brilliant (sarcasm) > Les > Koenning, who is famous for molding great passers > Andrew Zow and Tyler Watts Who, oh by the way, managed to win SEVENTEEN FUCKING GAMES in TWO SEASONS! > (sarcasm.) He may have looked good in some > scrimmages. Hell, he probably > looks good in practice at times also. But that's > slightly different > (sarcasm) from making great throws against Tennessee > et al. I could've sat here for days and never figured that out! Thanks for the insight, dude. > So now we're complaining that he has in the past > "looked strong," but now he > sucks because his position coach isn't "decent," > laying aside the fact his > HEAD coach was a QB coach in the NFL. Jason, when Shula starts coaching QB's at BAMA, get back with me. In the meantime, as long as that nimrod Dave Rader is coaching QB's, and coordinating the offense - WE ARE FUCKED! > OR, it just might be (sarcasm) that he was THIRD > STRING for a reason going > in to the 2004 season, and that he's just not a very > good quarterback. Or, it might be because Shula flipped a fuckin' coin and it landed on Guilon. > Maybe you'll get your way and we'll fire the architect > of the No. 1 defense > in AMERICA HA! HA! HA! Are you talking about the same dickwad that last year said there was no point in blitzing Timmy Chang because he couldn't be sacked, even if he didn't have an offensive line? Alabama hasn't played one single team worth a damn this season. And when they do, that defense you're bragging about will get their nuts handed to them. > and fire Rader so we can find a "decent" position > coach who can > turn Spencer back into the fine quarterback he once > was (sarcasm). What the hell's come over you? It wasn't that long ago YOU YORESLEF were just as down on this coaching staff as anyone, including myslef. What is it about this glistening 5-3 record that's made such a believer out of you? Oh! Never mind. I forgot; it's that #1 defense that's got you whistling Yea Alabama! > And as for your derisive comments directed toward our > head coach about the > Prothro package, Since when did the truth start getting under your skin so badly? > you might be surprised by the end of the year, given > what > I've heard this week. I would hope so, considering that Shula will probably have a month to get ready for a bowl game. No, I won't be a damn bit surprised. It'll be too late, which will be par for the course. JT ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?
Jason Houston wrote: And as for your derisive comments directed toward our head coach about the Prothro package, you might be surprised by the end of the year, given what I've heard this week. Sounds good...hope it's true. Rick ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?
It's called hyperbole...sarcasm to make a point. I'll point it out from now on. Spencer, to my recollection, has never been a very good QB. He was a baseball player at Fayette who committed to MSU before changing his mind and deciding to come to Alabama when Fran brought promises of an option offense to the Capstone. He was tutored at that time by the brilliant (sarcasm) Les Koenning, who is famous for molding great passers Andrew Zow and Tyler Watts (sarcasm.) He may have looked good in some scrimmages. Hell, he probably looks good in practice at times also. But that's slightly different (sarcasm) from making great throws against Tennessee et al. So now we're complaining that he has in the past "looked strong," but now he sucks because his position coach isn't "decent," laying aside the fact his HEAD coach was a QB coach in the NFL. OR, it just might be (sarcasm) that he was THIRD STRING for a reason going in to the 2004 season, and that he's just not a very good quarterback. Maybe you'll get your way and we'll fire the architect of the No. 1 defense in AMERICA and fire Rader so we can find a "decent" position coach who can turn Spencer back into the fine quarterback he once was (sarcasm). And as for your derisive comments directed toward our head coach about the Prothro package, you might be surprised by the end of the year, given what I've heard this week. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I believe Rick said during an A-Day game. And he didn't > say anything about 'mighty quarterbacking prowess'. Did > you just throw that in to see if anyone's paying > attention? ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?
I believe Rick said during an A-Day game. And he didn't say anything about 'mighty quarterbacking prowess'. Did you just throw that in to see if anyone's paying attention? Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Jason Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems? > Maybe I'm missing something...please fill me in on the > games in which > "Spencer looked strong" at QB. > > Once I recall the times he demonstrated his > once-mighty quarterbacking > prowess, then maybe I can understand how he is now the > victim of poor > coaching. > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> That was when he had a decent position coach. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rick Mc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > It wasn't that long ago that Spencer looked strong >> > at >> > the QB position. > > > ___ > RTF mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?
My initial comment was just a reflection I have of him during A-Day a couple of years ago. I remember him making some good strong throws in that scrimmage and he looked posed in the pocket. But you are right about real game action. There's no good example to draw from. Rick Jason Houston wrote: Maybe I'm missing something...please fill me in on the games in which "Spencer looked strong" at QB. Once I recall the times he demonstrated his once-mighty quarterbacking prowess, then maybe I can understand how he is now the victim of poor coaching. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That was when he had a decent position coach. - Original Message - From: "Rick Mc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It wasn't that long ago that Spencer looked strong at the QB position. ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?
Maybe I'm missing something...please fill me in on the games in which "Spencer looked strong" at QB. Once I recall the times he demonstrated his once-mighty quarterbacking prowess, then maybe I can understand how he is now the victim of poor coaching. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > That was when he had a decent position coach. > > - Original Message - > From: "Rick Mc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > It wasn't that long ago that Spencer looked strong at > > the QB position. ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?
Honestly, I started to write that in my post. Rick Jeff Todd wrote: That was when he had a decent position coach. HTH Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Rick Mc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] QB Problems? It wasn't that long ago that Spencer looked strong at the QB position. ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] QB Problems?
That was when he had a decent position coach. HTH Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Rick Mc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] QB Problems? > It wasn't that long ago that Spencer looked strong at > the QB position. ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] QB Problems?
Bama's not the only traditional school with QB issues. Take a look at Big Red's problems... -- Nebraska QB Joe Dailey Dailey has been here before, but he continues to have problems with the Nebraska offense. Even so, he's going to be the starting quarterback of the Big XII North champion. After a four of 18 for 25-yard performance in the 24-3 win over Missouri, Dailey has completed seven of 30 passes (23%) for 141 yards over the last two games. On the year, Dailey has completed 98 of 202 passes for 1,415 yards and 14 touchdowns with 13 interceptions. -- :( Maybe this week's MSU game will be the one when Spence turns it around, regains his confidence and plays the way I saw him play a couple of years ago in an A-Day game. It wasn't that long ago that Spencer looked strong at the QB position. RDTR! Rick ___ RTF mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
