Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games
Either way, it makes no difference to me. I have never seen anyone fake a punt that way. Faking a kick before throwing increases the likelihood of the play being blown because of how slow the play develops. Joe The multiplication of public offices, increase of expense beyond income, growth and entailment of a public debt, are indications soliciting the employment of the pruning knife. - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Spencer Roane, March 9, 1821 - Original Message - From: "Rick McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games > I can live with it too, but it's still dumb as hell. Every time the offense > lines up to punt the fscking ball the defense is supposed to be aware of the > possible fake. What damn difference does it make if the punter *fakes* the > kick then pulls up and throws the ball? I see no need for this dumbass rule. > Leave it to the wonderful SEC to come up with something so lame. > > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Joe Goodson > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 6:52 PM > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games > > Ok, so that means that they can still pass the ball as long as they don't > pretend that they kicked it first. I can live with that. > Joe > > The multiplication of public offices, increase of expense beyond income, > growth and entailment of a public debt, are indications soliciting the > employment of the pruning knife. > > - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Spencer Roane, March 9, 1821 > > - Original Message - > From: "SecFan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:49 PM > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games > > > > Here's the way I've had this explained. Can't say if this is accurate or > > not. > > > > The "punt" rule is merely to prevent the punter from acting like he kicked > > it, but instead to throw it straight up high in the air so that it LOOKS > > like a punt ... and then having his guys run down and catch it while the > > receiving team (who thinks it was a punt) is actually running AWAY from > the > > ball (so that it won't hit them and be a "live" ball). > > > > > > Charlie > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Behalf Of Devonna Snuggs > > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:29 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC > > > games > > > > > > > > > you know, ala Oklahoma game last year, what does the referees do to > other > > > teams who pull that against SEC teams? > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Jamie Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > So let me get this skrateA pass during a fake punt is now > > > > > illegalJamie > > > > > > > > > > > >" In other rules changes: and a player in punt formation > will > > > no > > > > > > longer be permitted to fake a punt, then throw a pass. " > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription > > > visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games
I can live with it too, but it's still dumb as hell. Every time the offense lines up to punt the fscking ball the defense is supposed to be aware of the possible fake. What damn difference does it make if the punter *fakes* the kick then pulls up and throws the ball? I see no need for this dumbass rule. Leave it to the wonderful SEC to come up with something so lame. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 6:52 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games Ok, so that means that they can still pass the ball as long as they don't pretend that they kicked it first. I can live with that. Joe The multiplication of public offices, increase of expense beyond income, growth and entailment of a public debt, are indications soliciting the employment of the pruning knife. - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Spencer Roane, March 9, 1821 - Original Message - From: "SecFan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:49 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games > Here's the way I've had this explained. Can't say if this is accurate or > not. > > The "punt" rule is merely to prevent the punter from acting like he kicked > it, but instead to throw it straight up high in the air so that it LOOKS > like a punt ... and then having his guys run down and catch it while the > receiving team (who thinks it was a punt) is actually running AWAY from the > ball (so that it won't hit them and be a "live" ball). > > > Charlie > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of Devonna Snuggs > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:29 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC > > games > > > > > > you know, ala Oklahoma game last year, what does the referees do to other > > teams who pull that against SEC teams? > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Jamie Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > So let me get this skrateA pass during a fake punt is now > > > > illegalJamie > > > > > > > > > >" In other rules changes: and a player in punt formation will > > no > > > > > longer be permitted to fake a punt, then throw a pass. " > > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription > > visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games
Ok, so that means that they can still pass the ball as long as they don't pretend that they kicked it first. I can live with that. Joe The multiplication of public offices, increase of expense beyond income, growth and entailment of a public debt, are indications soliciting the employment of the pruning knife. - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Spencer Roane, March 9, 1821 - Original Message - From: "SecFan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:49 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games > Here's the way I've had this explained. Can't say if this is accurate or > not. > > The "punt" rule is merely to prevent the punter from acting like he kicked > it, but instead to throw it straight up high in the air so that it LOOKS > like a punt ... and then having his guys run down and catch it while the > receiving team (who thinks it was a punt) is actually running AWAY from the > ball (so that it won't hit them and be a "live" ball). > > > Charlie > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of Devonna Snuggs > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:29 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC > > games > > > > > > you know, ala Oklahoma game last year, what does the referees do to other > > teams who pull that against SEC teams? > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Jamie Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > So let me get this skrateA pass during a fake punt is now > > > > illegalJamie > > > > > > > > > >" In other rules changes: and a player in punt formation will > > no > > > > > longer be permitted to fake a punt, then throw a pass. " > > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription > > visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games
Here's the way I've had this explained. Can't say if this is accurate or not. The "punt" rule is merely to prevent the punter from acting like he kicked it, but instead to throw it straight up high in the air so that it LOOKS like a punt ... and then having his guys run down and catch it while the receiving team (who thinks it was a punt) is actually running AWAY from the ball (so that it won't hit them and be a "live" ball). Charlie > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Devonna Snuggs > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC > games > > > you know, ala Oklahoma game last year, what does the referees do to other > teams who pull that against SEC teams? > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jamie Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > So let me get this skrateA pass during a fake punt is now > > > illegalJamie > > > > > > > >" In other rules changes: and a player in punt formation will > no > > > > longer be permitted to fake a punt, then throw a pass. " > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription > visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games
you know, ala Oklahoma game last year, what does the referees do to other teams who pull that against SEC teams? > - Original Message - > From: "Jamie Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > So let me get this skrateA pass during a fake punt is now > > illegalJamie > > > > > >" In other rules changes: and a player in punt formation will no > > > longer be permitted to fake a punt, then throw a pass. " __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games
that's how I see it! - Original Message - From: "Jamie Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So let me get this skrateA pass during a fake punt is now > illegalJamie > > > >" In other rules changes: and a player in punt formation will no > > longer be permitted to fake a punt, then throw a pass. " __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games
Yep, how brilliant is that rule? RTR LC --- Jamie Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So let me get this skrateA pass during a fake > punt is now > illegalJamie > - Original Message - > From: "Devonna Snuggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:36 AM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for > penalties in SEC games > > > > that's just stupid! Leave it to the SEC > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "John R. Wodziak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 9:19 AM > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year > for penalties in SEC > games > > > > > > > > > > Maybe they figure some of the defensive players > > > ain't all that smart. > > > > > > I do know that if I'm playing a SEC team in a > bowl > > > game that play goes into my play book. Stupid > > > rules are made to be exploited. > > > > > > Quoting Devonna Snuggs at 10:09 03-06-04: > > > >Why?? Too much trickery? > > > > > > > >" In other rules changes: and a player in > punt formation will no > > longer > > > >be permitted to fake a punt, then throw a pass. > " > > > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to > your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games
So let me get this skrateA pass during a fake punt is now illegalJamie - Original Message - From: "Devonna Snuggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games > that's just stupid! Leave it to the SEC > > - Original Message - > From: "John R. Wodziak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games > > > > > > Maybe they figure some of the defensive players > > ain't all that smart. > > > > I do know that if I'm playing a SEC team in a bowl > > game that play goes into my play book. Stupid > > rules are made to be exploited. > > > > Quoting Devonna Snuggs at 10:09 03-06-04: > > >Why?? Too much trickery? > > > > > >" In other rules changes: and a player in punt formation will no > longer > > >be permitted to fake a punt, then throw a pass. " > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games
that's just stupid! Leave it to the SEC - Original Message - From: "John R. Wodziak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games > > Maybe they figure some of the defensive players > ain't all that smart. > > I do know that if I'm playing a SEC team in a bowl > game that play goes into my play book. Stupid > rules are made to be exploited. > > Quoting Devonna Snuggs at 10:09 03-06-04: > >Why?? Too much trickery? > > > >" In other rules changes: and a player in punt formation will no longer > >be permitted to fake a punt, then throw a pass. " __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games
Maybe they figure some of the defensive players ain't all that smart. I do know that if I'm playing a SEC team in a bowl game that play goes into my play book. Stupid rules are made to be exploited. Quoting Devonna Snuggs at 10:09 03-06-04: Why?? Too much trickery? " In other rules changes: and a player in punt formation will no longer be permitted to fake a punt, then throw a pass. " __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] ID required this year for penalties in SEC games
Why?? Too much trickery? " In other rules changes: and a player in punt formation will no longer be permitted to fake a punt, then throw a pass. " __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net