Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
I personally know of no one that wants to live like that poor girl has Break that sentence right after the word live, and see how it reads to you. You must be surrounded by really sad people. He may actually be one of those rare people today that makes a promise makes every effort to keep it, therefore divorce is not an option. But shacking up with someone else and producing children with them is an option. Way to keep that promise... BTW, refusing medical treatment is not euthanasia. What would you call starving someone to death? He has a huge incentive to kill this woman and cremate the body ASAP. What that incentive is cannot be known until there is either a real medical examination by independent doctors using more than a stethescope, or by a post-mortem examination. Unfortunately, due to the court ruling he can and is denying both of those things. --- Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one Joe. I have been involved in 2 decisions like this one. Fortunately God made the decision for us for one we made the wrong call on the other prolonged the poor woman's suffering. I personally know of no one that wants to live like that poor girl has. I'm pretty sure that all the married folks on this list knows exactly what their spouse would want them to do under these circumstances Terri's husband is no different. He may actually be one of those rare people today that makes a promise makes every effort to keep it, therefore divorce is not an option. BTW, refusing medical treatment is not euthanasia. - Original Message - From: Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) I never want to wonder whether the physician coming into my hospital room is wearing the white coat of the healer or the black hood of the executioner. Alexander Capron (American lawyer. Source: Daily Telegraph 8/10/04) The truth is that we all have a right to die with dignity, which means being given good palliative care and pain relief. What the supporters of euthanasia are really arguing for is not the right to die with dignity, but the right to be killed. They are demanding of doctors that they become killers. Archbishop Peter Smith (Daily Telegraph: 19/12/2004) Euthanasia is a grave violation of the law of God, since it is the deliberate and morally unacceptable killing of a human person. Pope John Paul II: Evangelium Vitae, 1995 Euthanasia is a long, smooth-sounding word, and it conceals its danger as long, smooth words do, but the danger is there, nevertheless. Pearl S. Buck This life in us. . . however low it flickers or fiercely burns, is still a divine flame which no man dare presume to put out, be his motives never so humane and enlightened. To suppose otherwise is to countenance a death-wish. Either life is always and in all circumstances sacred, or intrinsically of no account; it is inconceivable that it should be in some cases the one, and in some the other. Malcolm Muggeridge That is all. Joe Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. Ronald Reagan ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
Pat, I consider myself a Pro-Lifer however, this woman has left me in turmoil. Most people know none of the facts of this case. Only bits and pieces from what the media has gave them. I live in the area and have followed this very closely and feel that this woman would truly want to go peacefully. First most don't know how she became brain dead! She got this way from her eating dis-order. She was so vain about her vanity that she was starving herself to maintain her appearance. Thus, causing her breathing to stop and lastly her brain damage. Secondly, who would want to lead an existance (not a life) that you were nothing but incoherent veg? Not me! What really disturbs me about this case is a family that has had 15 years to prove Terry has brain activity, wanted to live or could have expert testify that she would get better with therapy. Now at the eleventh hour they have manipulated or State Government to circumvent the 15 years the courts have deliberated this. Even our State Supreme Court. Now it seems that they have even tried to get our Congress involved and thank goodness the courts aren' thaving any of this. You see the family won't let go! The husband has been made out to be a total ass and I really feel for him. He has been offered Millions to walk away and sign custody over to her parents. He has refused because, he says he made a promise to Terry and knows what her wishes. He says, it ain't about the money, only his wife's wishes. I have prayed long and hard about this and I feel that my wife knows my wishes better than my parents do. She knows that I would never want to exist in this condition. Richard From: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion ListRTF@rolltidefan.net To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion ListRTF@rolltidefan.net Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:01:17 -0600 Surely you people are not advocating that this poor woman be left in a hospital bed for another 15 years. Her parents are the one that should be shot. It's shameful. She should have been allowed to die a long time ago with just a little shred of dignity left. How many of you would really want this type of survival? How many of you would want your parents to see you like that for 15 years? How about your children? Why do we feel the need to torture humans when we euthanize animals? [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tim Boozer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd: FNCAlert](non-Bama) Mike - I had not heard about this till I read your post. I just got home. This is sick and it apparently took place about 60 miles from my house. I really hoped this girl would turn up somehow. I just don't get it. You're right, Judge Greer, George Felos, and Michael Shiavo will someday have to answer for their deeds, but none of that helps Terri today. If she expressed a wish to die in this situation, why did it take him so long to come forward with that information? It doesn't hurt anyone for her to be allowed to live, why kill her? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Laborde Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 6:58 PM To: RTF@RollTideFan.net Subject: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd: FNC Alert](non-Bama) Will any RTF'er in Florida please kill this man? A very slow and painful death is preferable but dead is dead. While he is dying, ram a hot poker up his ass repeatedly. While you are at it, Judge George Greer needs a good old fashioned Southern ass whoopin' too. We certainly do have a problem with the judiciary in this country. Many seem to think they are above the law. We need serious reform. Thanks for letting me vent! --- Original Message --- From: BREAKING NEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: REAKINGNEWS Subscribers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:30:35 -0500 Subject: FNC Alert POLICE: SEX OFFENDER JOHN EVANDER COUEY CONFESSES TO KILLING JESSICA LUNSFORD **Watch FOX News Channel or go to http://foxnews.com for more ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
http://www.terrisfight.org/ - Original Message - From: Richard Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) Pat, I consider myself a Pro-Lifer however, this woman has left me in turmoil. Most people know none of the facts of this case. Only bits and pieces from what the media has gave them. ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one Joe. I have been involved in 2 decisions like this one. Fortunately God made the decision for us for one we made the wrong call on the other prolonged the poor woman's suffering. I personally know of no one that wants to live like that poor girl has. I'm pretty sure that all the married folks on this list knows exactly what their spouse would want them to do under these circumstances Terri's husband is no different. He may actually be one of those rare people today that makes a promise makes every effort to keep it, therefore divorce is not an option. BTW, refusing medical treatment is not euthanasia. - Original Message - From: Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) I never want to wonder whether the physician coming into my hospital room is wearing the white coat of the healer or the black hood of the executioner. Alexander Capron (American lawyer. Source: Daily Telegraph 8/10/04) The truth is that we all have a right to die with dignity, which means being given good palliative care and pain relief. What the supporters of euthanasia are really arguing for is not the right to die with dignity, but the right to be killed. They are demanding of doctors that they become killers. Archbishop Peter Smith (Daily Telegraph: 19/12/2004) Euthanasia is a grave violation of the law of God, since it is the deliberate and morally unacceptable killing of a human person. Pope John Paul II: Evangelium Vitae, 1995 Euthanasia is a long, smooth-sounding word, and it conceals its danger as long, smooth words do, but the danger is there, nevertheless. Pearl S. Buck This life in us. . . however low it flickers or fiercely burns, is still a divine flame which no man dare presume to put out, be his motives never so humane and enlightened. To suppose otherwise is to countenance a death-wish. Either life is always and in all circumstances sacred, or intrinsically of no account; it is inconceivable that it should be in some cases the one, and in some the other. Malcolm Muggeridge That is all. Joe Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. Ronald Reagan ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
Why do you insist on bringing Rep/Dem politics into this? It has no place here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John R. Wodziak Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:38 PM To: RTF@rolltidefan.net Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) Quoting JVWatts at 22:12 18-03-05: But the real sad part is all of the outsiders joining the fray just to promote their own agendasJamie Which outsiders are you talking about here? Jebby Bush? Gov FLA_USA? Or Bill Frist of Indiana or some other Midwestern state? or the rest of the Republicans in the US Congress that somehow managed to wrest themselves away from the incredibly important Baseball/Mark McGuire steroid hearings so they can focus on some of the more serious problems in the United States today? Or the Florida Senate/Reps that have already been found in violation of the US Constitution by activist judges? Or are you just pissed that Judge Greer, (Republican BTW) who is pissed off by this entire situation, was re-elected last year in Tampa, FLA, USA? Which outsiders do you mean? IMHO, the only people who really matter here are the Hubby and the Mom/Dad. Everyone else is an outsider, especially you and me. ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
Thank you for saying it first, Pat. This thing has NEVER been about Terri's wishes. It has been about her parent's inability to let go. Let's keep this one in a special place in the RTF archives. SONJA'S WISHES: If I become a turnip, someone please put me to sleep, pull the plug, smother me or something...please. - Original Message - From: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) Surely you people are not advocating that this poor woman be left in a hospital bed for another 15 years. Her parents are the one that should be shot. It's shameful. She should have been allowed to die a long time ago with just a little shred of dignity left. How many of you would really want this type of survival? How many of you would want your parents to see you like that for 15 years? How about your children? Why do we feel the need to torture humans when we euthanize animals? [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tim Boozer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd: FNCAlert](non-Bama) Mike - I had not heard about this till I read your post. I just got home. This is sick and it apparently took place about 60 miles from my house. I really hoped this girl would turn up somehow. I just don't get it. You're right, Judge Greer, George Felos, and Michael Shiavo will someday have to answer for their deeds, but none of that helps Terri today. If she expressed a wish to die in this situation, why did it take him so long to come forward with that information? It doesn't hurt anyone for her to be allowed to live, why kill her? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Laborde Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 6:58 PM To: RTF@RollTideFan.net Subject: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd: FNC Alert](non-Bama) Will any RTF'er in Florida please kill this man? A very slow and painful death is preferable but dead is dead. While he is dying, ram a hot poker up his ass repeatedly. While you are at it, Judge George Greer needs a good old fashioned Southern ass whoopin' too. We certainly do have a problem with the judiciary in this country. Many seem to think they are above the law. We need serious reform. Thanks for letting me vent! --- Original Message --- From: BREAKING NEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: REAKINGNEWS Subscribers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:30:35 -0500 Subject: FNC Alert POLICE: SEX OFFENDER JOHN EVANDER COUEY CONFESSES TO KILLING JESSICA LUNSFORD **Watch FOX News Channel or go to http://foxnews.com for more ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
you're all being too hard on both sides of this sad situationWho can blame the parents for wanting to keep a child alive If you've seen the videos Terri does seem to repsond to her motherHowever she has shown no signs of life, other than that short video clip, in 15 yearsSchiavo claims he only wants to do what Terri wantedHe even turned down a 1 million dollar offer from a guy here in Tampa to just walk awayThe judge only upheld the lawI feel bad for both sides of this situation But the real sad part is all of the outsiders joining the fray just to promote their own agendasJamie - Original Message - From: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) Surely you people are not advocating that this poor woman be left in a hospital bed for another 15 years. Her parents are the one that should be shot. It's shameful. She should have been allowed to die a long time ago with just a little shred of dignity left. How many of you would really want this type of survival? How many of you would want your parents to see you like that for 15 years? How about your children? Why do we feel the need to torture humans when we euthanize animals? [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tim Boozer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd: FNCAlert](non-Bama) Mike - I had not heard about this till I read your post. I just got home. This is sick and it apparently took place about 60 miles from my house. I really hoped this girl would turn up somehow. I just don't get it. You're right, Judge Greer, George Felos, and Michael Shiavo will someday have to answer for their deeds, but none of that helps Terri today. If she expressed a wish to die in this situation, why did it take him so long to come forward with that information? It doesn't hurt anyone for her to be allowed to live, why kill her? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Laborde Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 6:58 PM To: RTF@RollTideFan.net Subject: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd: FNC Alert](non-Bama) Will any RTF'er in Florida please kill this man? A very slow and painful death is preferable but dead is dead. While he is dying, ram a hot poker up his ass repeatedly. While you are at it, Judge George Greer needs a good old fashioned Southern ass whoopin' too. We certainly do have a problem with the judiciary in this country. Many seem to think they are above the law. We need serious reform. Thanks for letting me vent! --- Original Message --- From: BREAKING NEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: REAKINGNEWS Subscribers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:30:35 -0500 Subject: FNC Alert POLICE: SEX OFFENDER JOHN EVANDER COUEY CONFESSES TO KILLING JESSICA LUNSFORD **Watch FOX News Channel or go to http://foxnews.com for more ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
Jamie: This all comes down to quality of life. Why is it that we can be humane to animals but not to people? As a mother I understand the anything it takes to keep my child here mantra, but at some point you have to think about what the child's quality of life actually is. Some will say that I don't know what Terri feels or doesn't feel. That's true, but I know I would not want to be like that. Not being able to communicate and live a normal life, yes, I would want someone to let me go. This is the very reason it is so important for all of us to make our wishes known when we are still in a [somewhat] rational state of mind. Sonja Original Message - From: JVWatts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) you're all being too hard on both sides of this sad situationWho can blame the parents for wanting to keep a child alive If you've seen the videos Terri does seem to repsond to her motherHowever she has shown no signs of life, other than that short video clip, in 15 yearsSchiavo claims he only wants to do what Terri wantedHe even turned down a 1 million dollar offer from a guy here in Tampa to just walk awayThe judge only upheld the lawI feel bad for both sides of this situation But the real sad part is all of the outsiders joining the fray just to promote their own agendasJamie - Original Message - From: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) Surely you people are not advocating that this poor woman be left in a hospital bed for another 15 years. Her parents are the one that should be shot. It's shameful. She should have been allowed to die a long time ago with just a little shred of dignity left. How many of you would really want this type of survival? How many of you would want your parents to see you like that for 15 years? How about your children? Why do we feel the need to torture humans when we euthanize animals? [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tim Boozer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd: FNCAlert](non-Bama) Mike - I had not heard about this till I read your post. I just got home. This is sick and it apparently took place about 60 miles from my house. I really hoped this girl would turn up somehow. I just don't get it. You're right, Judge Greer, George Felos, and Michael Shiavo will someday have to answer for their deeds, but none of that helps Terri today. If she expressed a wish to die in this situation, why did it take him so long to come forward with that information? It doesn't hurt anyone for her to be allowed to live, why kill her? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Laborde Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 6:58 PM To: RTF@RollTideFan.net Subject: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd: FNC Alert](non-Bama) Will any RTF'er in Florida please kill this man? A very slow and painful death is preferable but dead is dead. While he is dying, ram a hot poker up his ass repeatedly. While you are at it, Judge George Greer needs a good old fashioned Southern ass whoopin' too. We certainly do have a problem with the judiciary in this country. Many seem to think they are above the law. We need serious reform. Thanks for letting me vent! --- Original Message --- From: BREAKING NEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: REAKINGNEWS Subscribers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:30:35 -0500 Subject: FNC Alert POLICE: SEX OFFENDER JOHN EVANDER COUEY CONFESSES TO KILLING JESSICA LUNSFORD **Watch FOX News Channel or go to http://foxnews.com for more ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
What about a prune? XOXOXO Slef E. - Original Message - From: Sonja Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) SONJA'S WISHES: If I become a turnip, someone please put me to sleep, pull the plug, smother me or something...please. ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
Quoting JVWatts at 22:12 18-03-05: But the real sad part is all of the outsiders joining the fray just to promote their own agendasJamie Which outsiders are you talking about here? Jebby Bush? Gov FLA_USA? Or Bill Frist of Indiana or some other Midwestern state? or the rest of the Republicans in the US Congress that somehow managed to wrest themselves away from the incredibly important Baseball/Mark McGuire steroid hearings so they can focus on some of the more serious problems in the United States today? Or the Florida Senate/Reps that have already been found in violation of the US Constitution by activist judges? Or are you just pissed that Judge Greer, (Republican BTW) who is pissed off by this entire situation, was re-elected last year in Tampa, FLA, USA? Which outsiders do you mean? IMHO, the only people who really matter here are the Hubby and the Mom/Dad. Everyone else is an outsider, especially you and me. ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
- Original Message - From: Sonja Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) SONJA'S WISHES: If I become a turnip, someone please put me to sleep, pull the plug, smother me or something...please. I have a feeling that Ron will beat us all to it. ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
My last post on the subject: Why does hubby have a problem just walking away? Why not just let the hundreds of thousands of people willing to donate millions of dollars pay for her private care for the rest of her life? Why play God and KILL her? If she didn't leave a living will (how many of you actually HAVE one?) and only one person supposedly heard her say she wanted to die if this happened, why not take the less permanent course of action a let her live? What is the damn harm? Just divorce her and WALK THE FUCK AWAY! Javvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) --- Original Message --- On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:38:01 -0500, John R. Wodziak wrote: Quoting JVWatts at 22:12 18-03-05: But the real sad part is all of the outsiders joining the fray just to promote their own agendasJamie Which outsiders are you talking about here? Jebby Bush? Gov FLA_USA? Or Bill Frist of Indiana or some other Midwestern state? or the rest of the Republicans in the US Congress that somehow managed to wrest themselves away from the incredibly important Baseball/Mark McGuire steroid hearings so they can focus on some of the more serious problems in the United States today? Or the Florida Senate/Reps that have already been found in violation of the US Constitution by activist judges? Or are you just pissed that Judge Greer, (Republican BTW) who is pissed off by this entire situation, was re-elected last year in Tampa, FLA, USA? Which outsiders do you mean? IMHO, the only people who really matter here are the Hubby and the Mom/Dad. Everyone else is an outsider, especially you and me. ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net __ NOD32 1.1030 (20050319) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
I guess I missed the memo. When did Tennessee move? Slef E. - Original Message - From: John R. Wodziak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) Or Bill Frist of Indiana or some other Midwestern state? ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
You're kidding, right? Kill her? I don't think that removing her from medical equipment that is sustaining her life as killing her. Remove all equipment let nature run its course. Why do you feel the need to torture the ones you love? - Original Message - From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) My last post on the subject: Why does hubby have a problem just walking away? Why not just let the hundreds of thousands of people willing to donate millions of dollars pay for her private care for the rest of her life? Why play God and KILL her? If she didn't leave a living will (how many of you actually HAVE one?) and only one person supposedly heard her say she wanted to die if this happened, why not take the less permanent course of action a let her live? What is the damn harm? Just divorce her and WALK THE FUCK AWAY! Javvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) --- Original Message --- On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:38:01 -0500, John R. Wodziak wrote: Quoting JVWatts at 22:12 18-03-05: But the real sad part is all of the outsiders joining the fray just to promote their own agendasJamie Which outsiders are you talking about here? Jebby Bush? Gov FLA_USA? Or Bill Frist of Indiana or some other Midwestern state? or the rest of the Republicans in the US Congress that somehow managed to wrest themselves away from the incredibly important Baseball/Mark McGuire steroid hearings so they can focus on some of the more serious problems in the United States today? Or the Florida Senate/Reps that have already been found in violation of the US Constitution by activist judges? Or are you just pissed that Judge Greer, (Republican BTW) who is pissed off by this entire situation, was re-elected last year in Tampa, FLA, USA? Which outsiders do you mean? IMHO, the only people who really matter here are the Hubby and the Mom/Dad. Everyone else is an outsider, especially you and me. ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net __ NOD32 1.1030 (20050319) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
I guess you missed the message earlier today which said Phat Phil dropped a box of several dozen donuts. Or where you waiting for another Tennessee movement? At 22:46 18-03-05 Jeff Todd wrote: I guess I missed the memo. When did move? Slef E. - Original Message - From: John R. Wodziak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) Or Bill Frist of Indiana or some other Midwestern state? ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
Quoting JVWatts at 22:12 18-03-05: But the real sad part is all of the outsiders joining the fray just to promote their own agendasJamie Which outsiders are you talking about here? I clipped most of your rantings, but I'm talking about all these people(on both sides) who are standing out in front of the hospice with their signs and microphonesAnd yes I'm talking about both the Republicans and Democrats who are sticking their nose in a situation where government does not belong And you are right, other than her familywe are all outsidersJamie ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
All good questionsThe hubby says that this aboput respecting what Terri wantedUnless he has some multimillion dollar insurance policy hidden somewhere offshore then he has nothing to gain at all from her deathAs far as only one person hearing her say that she wouldn't want to live like she is nowthere were actually three people who claimed under oath to have heard her say thatAnd living wills were something new 15 years ago so it's no wonder that she never made one outAnd I actually have oneI also have it documented what I want done with my remains There would be no harm in just divorcing her, walking away, and letting the parents take over her carebut he says Terri wouldn't want to live like this and he's just carrying out her wishes He has nothing to gain from her deathIt's all just a sordid messJamie I'm through now, too My last post on the subject: Why does hubby have a problem just walking away? Why not just let the hundreds of thousands of people willing to donate millions of dollars pay for her private care for the rest of her life? Why play God and KILL her? If she didn't leave a living will (how many of you actually HAVE one?) and only one person supposedly heard her say she wanted to die if this happened, why not take the less permanent course of action a let her live? What is the damn harm? Just divorce her and WALK THE FUCK AWAY! Javvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) --- Original Message --- On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:38:01 -0500, John R. Wodziak wrote: Quoting JVWatts at 22:12 18-03-05: But the real sad part is all of the outsiders joining the fray just to promote their own agendasJamie Which outsiders are you talking about here? Jebby Bush? Gov FLA_USA? Or Bill Frist of Indiana or some other Midwestern state? or the rest of the Republicans in the US Congress that somehow managed to wrest themselves away from the incredibly important Baseball/Mark McGuire steroid hearings so they can focus on some of the more serious problems in the United States today? Or the Florida Senate/Reps that have already been found in violation of the US Constitution by activist judges? Or are you just pissed that Judge Greer, (Republican BTW) who is pissed off by this entire situation, was re-elected last year in Tampa, FLA, USA? Which outsiders do you mean? IMHO, the only people who really matter here are the Hubby and the Mom/Dad. Everyone else is an outsider, especially you and me. ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net __ NOD32 1.1030 (20050319) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
Try reading http://www.randomhouse.com/bantamdell/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=0553582755 This guy Koontz touches on this subject and appeared to have researched the subject pretty well. At the end of the book he discusses his views. All I can say is that I agree with his position. Read it if you like. Joe Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. Ronald Reagan - Original Message - From: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) Surely you people are not advocating that this poor woman be left in a hospital bed for another 15 years. Her parents are the one that should be shot. It's shameful. She should have been allowed to die a long time ago with just a little shred of dignity left. How many of you would really want this type of survival? How many of you would want your parents to see you like that for 15 years? How about your children? Why do we feel the need to torture humans when we euthanize animals? [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tim Boozer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd: FNCAlert](non-Bama) Mike - I had not heard about this till I read your post. I just got home. This is sick and it apparently took place about 60 miles from my house. I really hoped this girl would turn up somehow. I just don't get it. You're right, Judge Greer, George Felos, and Michael Shiavo will someday have to answer for their deeds, but none of that helps Terri today. If she expressed a wish to die in this situation, why did it take him so long to come forward with that information? It doesn't hurt anyone for her to be allowed to live, why kill her? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Laborde Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 6:58 PM To: RTF@RollTideFan.net Subject: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd: FNC Alert](non-Bama) Will any RTF'er in Florida please kill this man? A very slow and painful death is preferable but dead is dead. While he is dying, ram a hot poker up his ass repeatedly. While you are at it, Judge George Greer needs a good old fashioned Southern ass whoopin' too. We certainly do have a problem with the judiciary in this country. Many seem to think they are above the law. We need serious reform. Thanks for letting me vent! --- Original Message --- From: BREAKING NEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: REAKINGNEWS Subscribers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:30:35 -0500 Subject: FNC Alert POLICE: SEX OFFENDER JOHN EVANDER COUEY CONFESSES TO KILLING JESSICA LUNSFORD **Watch FOX News Channel or go to http://foxnews.com for more ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida... [Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
I never want to wonder whether the physician coming into my hospital room is wearing the white coat of the healer or the black hood of the executioner. Alexander Capron (American lawyer. Source: Daily Telegraph 8/10/04) The truth is that we all have a right to die with dignity, which means being given good palliative care and pain relief. What the supporters of euthanasia are really arguing for is not the right to die with dignity, but the right to be killed. They are demanding of doctors that they become killers. Archbishop Peter Smith (Daily Telegraph: 19/12/2004) Euthanasia is a grave violation of the law of God, since it is the deliberate and morally unacceptable killing of a human person. Pope John Paul II: Evangelium Vitae, 1995 Euthanasia is a long, smooth-sounding word, and it conceals its danger as long, smooth words do, but the danger is there, nevertheless. Pearl S. Buck This life in us. . . however low it flickers or fiercely burns, is still a divine flame which no man dare presume to put out, be his motives never so humane and enlightened. To suppose otherwise is to countenance a death-wish. Either life is always and in all circumstances sacred, or intrinsically of no account; it is inconceivable that it should be in some cases the one, and in some the other. Malcolm Muggeridge That is all. Joe Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. Ronald Reagan ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
Quoting JVWatts at 23:59 18-03-05: Quoting JVWatts at 22:12 18-03-05: But the real sad part is all of the outsiders joining the fray just to promote their own agendasJamie Which outsiders are you talking about here? I clipped most of your rantings, but I'm talking about all these people(on both sides) who are standing out in front of the hospice with their signs and microphonesAnd yes I'm talking about both the Republicans and Democrats who are sticking their nose in a situation where government does not belong And you are right, other than her familywe are all outsidersJamie I love the rants I had, but in this case... We outsiders like you and me, should shut the fuck up. and start ranting...Roll Fuckin Tide! ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama)
iyamwidgyaondis1 Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. Ronald Reagan - Original Message - From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Double Sad News Day In Florida...[Fwd:FNCAlert](non-Bama) My last post on the subject: Why does hubby have a problem just walking away? Why not just let the hundreds of thousands of people willing to donate millions of dollars pay for her private care for the rest of her life? Why play God and KILL her? If she didn't leave a living will (how many of you actually HAVE one?) and only one person supposedly heard her say she wanted to die if this happened, why not take the less permanent course of action a let her live? What is the damn harm? Just divorce her and WALK THE FUCK AWAY! Javvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) --- Original Message --- On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:38:01 -0500, John R. Wodziak wrote: Quoting JVWatts at 22:12 18-03-05: But the real sad part is all of the outsiders joining the fray just to promote their own agendasJamie Which outsiders are you talking about here? Jebby Bush? Gov FLA_USA? Or Bill Frist of Indiana or some other Midwestern state? or the rest of the Republicans in the US Congress that somehow managed to wrest themselves away from the incredibly important Baseball/Mark McGuire steroid hearings so they can focus on some of the more serious problems in the United States today? Or the Florida Senate/Reps that have already been found in violation of the US Constitution by activist judges? Or are you just pissed that Judge Greer, (Republican BTW) who is pissed off by this entire situation, was re-elected last year in Tampa, FLA, USA? Which outsiders do you mean? IMHO, the only people who really matter here are the Hubby and the Mom/Dad. Everyone else is an outsider, especially you and me. ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net __ NOD32 1.1030 (20050319) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net ___ RTF mailing list RTF@rolltidefan.net http://rolltidefan.net/mailman/listinfo/rtf_rolltidefan.net
